hello! I am having a problem, see if some of you guys have any idea... I need to trigger videos projected by tree projectors. The videos should be trigger by the subtle air or wind produced by the walking of the viewers on a room. The viewer will be surrounding by the 3 video projections. My first idea was to use video cameras connected with MAXmsp and create a grid to mark and read the movement of the people on the space. But, it will be better if is possible to measured the air produce by their movement, because conceptually works better with the video installation that i working on it. Any idea to how to resolve this? I was wondering if there is any kind of wind sensor that can be connected in to Arduino... IDEAS? I am really appreciated your help!
> hello! > I am having a problem, see if some of you guys have any idea... > I need to trigger videos projected by tree projectors. > The videos should be trigger by the subtle air or wind produced by the > walking of the viewers on a room. The viewer will be surrounding by the 3 > video projections. > My first idea was to use video cameras connected with MAXmsp and create a > grid to mark and read the movement of the people on the space. > But, it will be better if is possible to measured the air produce by > their movement, because conceptually works better with the video > installation that i working on it. > Any idea to how to resolve this? > I was wondering if there is any kind of wind sensor that can be connected > in to Arduino... > IDEAS? > I am really appreciated your help!
> Thanks > Alexandra
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There are many other things you can do to simulate fluid/gas movement in a space once you have information about which way objects are moving in a field of view. If you take a look at some of Grant Kot's physics simulation videos here: http://www.youtube.com/user/kotsoft?blend=8&ob=5 (he was our intern here at QLabs!) you'll get a sense for what you can do with optical flow data.
-E
On Tue, Dec 13, 2011 at 1:03 PM, Paul Strohmeier <paul.strohme...@gmail.com>wrote:
> you could try using piezzo electric sensors. they would trigger the > projections based on the vibrations created by the peoples movements.
> i think using a wind sensor will probbly be a very complex undertakig in > order to get useful readings from it.
> p.
> - sent from android device - > On Dec 13, 2011 6:02 AM, "Alexandra Gelis" <i...@alexandragelis.com> > wrote:
>> hello! >> I am having a problem, see if some of you guys have any idea... >> I need to trigger videos projected by tree projectors. >> The videos should be trigger by the subtle air or wind produced by the >> walking of the viewers on a room. The viewer will be surrounding by the 3 >> video projections. >> My first idea was to use video cameras connected with MAXmsp and create a >> grid to mark and read the movement of the people on the space. >> But, it will be better if is possible to measured the air produce by >> their movement, because conceptually works better with the video >> installation that i working on it. >> Any idea to how to resolve this? >> I was wondering if there is any kind of wind sensor that can be connected >> in to Arduino... >> IDEAS? >> I am really appreciated your help!
>> Thanks >> Alexandra
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Thanks a lot!! I will try with the three options that you guys send me, thanks a lot!!! As I will having questions or problems I will formulating them to you, thank you very much again. You are very kind geniuses!! Alexandra
On Tue, Dec 13, 2011 at 1:42 PM, Eric Skiff <m...@ericskiff.com> wrote: > Agreed - you'd probably find that any HVAC system in the space would > create more noise in the wind data than people moving through the space.
> Personally I would probably try to do this with a webcam and optical flow > analysis using OpenCV
> There are many other things you can do to simulate fluid/gas movement in a > space once you have information about which way objects are moving in a > field of view. > If you take a look at some of Grant Kot's physics simulation videos here: > http://www.youtube.com/user/kotsoft?blend=8&ob=5 (he was our intern here > at QLabs!) you'll get a sense for what you can do with optical flow data.
> -E
> On Tue, Dec 13, 2011 at 1:03 PM, Paul Strohmeier < > paul.strohme...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> you could try using piezzo electric sensors. they would trigger the >> projections based on the vibrations created by the peoples movements.
>> i think using a wind sensor will probbly be a very complex undertakig in >> order to get useful readings from it.
>> p.
>> - sent from android device - >> On Dec 13, 2011 6:02 AM, "Alexandra Gelis" <i...@alexandragelis.com> >> wrote:
>>> hello! >>> I am having a problem, see if some of you guys have any idea... >>> I need to trigger videos projected by tree projectors. >>> The videos should be trigger by the subtle air or wind produced by the >>> walking of the viewers on a room. The viewer will be surrounding by the 3 >>> video projections. >>> My first idea was to use video cameras connected with MAXmsp and create >>> a grid to mark and read the movement of the people on the space. >>> But, it will be better if is possible to measured the air produce by >>> their movement, because conceptually works better with the video >>> installation that i working on it. >>> Any idea to how to resolve this? >>> I was wondering if there is any kind of wind sensor that can be >>> connected in to Arduino... >>> IDEAS? >>> I am really appreciated your help!
>>> Thanks >>> Alexandra
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> There are many other things you can do to simulate fluid/gas movement in a > space once you have information about which way objects are moving in a > field of view. > If you take a look at some of Grant Kot's physics simulation videos here:http://www.youtube.com/user/kotsoft?blend=8&ob=5(he was our intern here at > QLabs!) you'll get a sense for what you can do with optical flow data.
> -E
> On Tue, Dec 13, 2011 at 1:03 PM, Paul Strohmeier > <paul.strohme...@gmail.com>wrote:
> > you could try using piezzo electric sensors. they would trigger the > > projections based on the vibrations created by the peoples movements.
> > i think using a wind sensor will probbly be a very complex undertakig in > > order to get useful readings from it.
> > p.
> > - sent from android device - > > On Dec 13, 2011 6:02 AM, "Alexandra Gelis" <i...@alexandragelis.com> > > wrote:
> >> hello! > >> I am having a problem, see if some of you guys have any idea... > >> I need to trigger videos projected by tree projectors. > >> The videos should be trigger by the subtle air or wind produced by the > >> walking of the viewers on a room. The viewer will be surrounding by the 3 > >> video projections. > >> My first idea was to use video cameras connected with MAXmsp and create a > >> grid to mark and read the movement of the people on the space. > >> But, it will be better if is possible to measured the air produce by > >> their movement, because conceptually works better with the video > >> installation that i working on it. > >> Any idea to how to resolve this? > >> I was wondering if there is any kind of wind sensor that can be connected > >> in to Arduino... > >> IDEAS? > >> I am really appreciated your help!
> >> Thanks > >> Alexandra
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Kinect sounds like fun in this situation. Also, you could opt for IR or Sonar rangefinders on a grid or in some sort of arrangement around the room as well.
On Tue, Dec 13, 2011 at 3:50 PM, Rolan <rolany...@gmail.com> wrote: > Do ya think the Kinect would be a good fit here?
> ~Rolan
> On Dec 13, 1:42 pm, Eric Skiff <m...@ericskiff.com> wrote: > > Agreed - you'd probably find that any HVAC system in the space would > create > > more noise in the wind data than people moving through the space.
> > Personally I would probably try to do this with a webcam and optical flow > > analysis using OpenCV
> > There are many other things you can do to simulate fluid/gas movement in > a > > space once you have information about which way objects are moving in a > > field of view. > > If you take a look at some of Grant Kot's physics simulation videos here: > http://www.youtube.com/user/kotsoft?blend=8&ob=5(he was our intern here at > > QLabs!) you'll get a sense for what you can do with optical flow data.
> > -E
> > On Tue, Dec 13, 2011 at 1:03 PM, Paul Strohmeier > > <paul.strohme...@gmail.com>wrote:
> > > you could try using piezzo electric sensors. they would trigger the > > > projections based on the vibrations created by the peoples movements.
> > > i think using a wind sensor will probbly be a very complex undertakig > in > > > order to get useful readings from it.
> > > p.
> > > - sent from android device - > > > On Dec 13, 2011 6:02 AM, "Alexandra Gelis" <i...@alexandragelis.com> > > > wrote:
> > >> hello! > > >> I am having a problem, see if some of you guys have any idea... > > >> I need to trigger videos projected by tree projectors. > > >> The videos should be trigger by the subtle air or wind produced by the > > >> walking of the viewers on a room. The viewer will be surrounding by > the 3 > > >> video projections. > > >> My first idea was to use video cameras connected with MAXmsp and > create a > > >> grid to mark and read the movement of the people on the space. > > >> But, it will be better if is possible to measured the air produce by > > >> their movement, because conceptually works better with the video > > >> installation that i working on it. > > >> Any idea to how to resolve this? > > >> I was wondering if there is any kind of wind sensor that can be > connected > > >> in to Arduino... > > >> IDEAS? > > >> I am really appreciated your help!
> > >> Thanks > > >> Alexandra
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Check Memo Akten's MSAFluid for Processing and Open Frameworks, for a fluid simulation that could be manipulated by CV and in turn manipulate the sound.
On Tue, Dec 13, 2011 at 3:59 PM, michael lowry <m...@njit.edu> wrote: > Kinect sounds like fun in this situation. Also, you could opt for IR or > Sonar rangefinders on a grid or in some sort of arrangement around the room > as well.
> On Tue, Dec 13, 2011 at 3:50 PM, Rolan <rolany...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Do ya think the Kinect would be a good fit here?
>> ~Rolan
>> On Dec 13, 1:42 pm, Eric Skiff <m...@ericskiff.com> wrote: >> > Agreed - you'd probably find that any HVAC system in the space would >> > create >> > more noise in the wind data than people moving through the space.
>> > Personally I would probably try to do this with a webcam and optical >> > flow >> > analysis using OpenCV
>> > There are many other things you can do to simulate fluid/gas movement in >> > a >> > space once you have information about which way objects are moving in a >> > field of view. >> > If you take a look at some of Grant Kot's physics simulation videos >> > here:http://www.youtube.com/user/kotsoft?blend=8&ob=5(he was our intern here >> > at >> > QLabs!) you'll get a sense for what you can do with optical flow data.
>> > -E
>> > On Tue, Dec 13, 2011 at 1:03 PM, Paul Strohmeier >> > <paul.strohme...@gmail.com>wrote:
>> > > you could try using piezzo electric sensors. they would trigger the >> > > projections based on the vibrations created by the peoples movements.
>> > > i think using a wind sensor will probbly be a very complex undertakig >> > > in >> > > order to get useful readings from it.
>> > > p.
>> > > - sent from android device - >> > > On Dec 13, 2011 6:02 AM, "Alexandra Gelis" <i...@alexandragelis.com> >> > > wrote:
>> > >> hello! >> > >> I am having a problem, see if some of you guys have any idea... >> > >> I need to trigger videos projected by tree projectors. >> > >> The videos should be trigger by the subtle air or wind produced by >> > >> the >> > >> walking of the viewers on a room. The viewer will be surrounding by >> > >> the 3 >> > >> video projections. >> > >> My first idea was to use video cameras connected with MAXmsp and >> > >> create a >> > >> grid to mark and read the movement of the people on the space. >> > >> But, it will be better if is possible to measured the air produce by >> > >> their movement, because conceptually works better with the video >> > >> installation that i working on it. >> > >> Any idea to how to resolve this? >> > >> I was wondering if there is any kind of wind sensor that can be >> > >> connected >> > >> in to Arduino... >> > >> IDEAS? >> > >> I am really appreciated your help!
>> > >> Thanks >> > >> Alexandra
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> Do ya think the Kinect would be a good fit here?
> ~Rolan
> On Dec 13, 1:42 pm, Eric Skiff<m...@ericskiff.com> wrote: >> Agreed - you'd probably find that any HVAC system in the space would create >> more noise in the wind data than people moving through the space.
>> Personally I would probably try to do this with a webcam and optical flow >> analysis using OpenCV
>> There are many other things you can do to simulate fluid/gas movement in a >> space once you have information about which way objects are moving in a >> field of view. >> If you take a look at some of Grant Kot's physics simulation videos here:http://www.youtube.com/user/kotsoft?blend=8&ob=5(he was our intern here at >> QLabs!) you'll get a sense for what you can do with optical flow data.
>> -E
>> On Tue, Dec 13, 2011 at 1:03 PM, Paul Strohmeier >> <paul.strohme...@gmail.com>wrote:
>>> you could try using piezzo electric sensors. they would trigger the >>> projections based on the vibrations created by the peoples movements. >>> i think using a wind sensor will probbly be a very complex undertakig in >>> order to get useful readings from it. >>> p. >>> - sent from android device - >>> On Dec 13, 2011 6:02 AM, "Alexandra Gelis"<i...@alexandragelis.com> >>> wrote: >>>> hello! >>>> I am having a problem, see if some of you guys have any idea... >>>> I need to trigger videos projected by tree projectors. >>>> The videos should be trigger by the subtle air or wind produced by the >>>> walking of the viewers on a room. The viewer will be surrounding by the 3 >>>> video projections. >>>> My first idea was to use video cameras connected with MAXmsp and create a >>>> grid to mark and read the movement of the people on the space. >>>> But, it will be better if is possible to measured the air produce by >>>> their movement, because conceptually works better with the video >>>> installation that i working on it. >>>> Any idea to how to resolve this? >>>> I was wondering if there is any kind of wind sensor that can be connected >>>> in to Arduino... >>>> IDEAS? >>>> I am really appreciated your help! >>>> Thanks >>>> Alexandra >>>> -- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>>> "NYCResistor:Microcontrollers" group. >>>> To post to this group, send email to >>>> nycresistormicrocontrollers@googlegroups.com. >>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>> nycresistormicrocontrollers+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. >>>> For more options, visit this group at >>>> http://groups.google.com/group/nycresistormicrocontrollers?hl=en. >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "NYCResistor:Microcontrollers" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to >>> nycresistormicrocontrollers@googlegroups.com. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> nycresistormicrocontrollers+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/nycresistormicrocontrollers?hl=en.
On Tue, Dec 13, 2011 at 6:40 PM, Dan Lavin <dan...@verizon.net> wrote: > Have you considered a passive infrared (PIR) sensor? These are commonly > used in motion detectors. One or more of these may do what you want.
> Alternatively, you could try hanging some sheets of aluminum foil in the > room and detect their movement with a reflective sensor.
> On 12/13/2011 3:50 PM, Rolan wrote:
>> Do ya think the Kinect would be a good fit here?
>> ~Rolan
>> On Dec 13, 1:42 pm, Eric Skiff<m...@ericskiff.com> wrote:
>>> Agreed - you'd probably find that any HVAC system in the space would >>> create >>> more noise in the wind data than people moving through the space.
>>> Personally I would probably try to do this with a webcam and optical flow >>> analysis using OpenCV
>>> There are many other things you can do to simulate fluid/gas movement in >>> a >>> space once you have information about which way objects are moving in a >>> field of view. >>> If you take a look at some of Grant Kot's physics simulation videos here: >>> http://www.youtube.com/**user/kotsoft?blend=8&ob=5(he<http://www.youtube.com/user/kotsoft?blend=8&ob=5%28he>was our intern here at >>> QLabs!) you'll get a sense for what you can do with optical flow data.
>>> -E
>>> On Tue, Dec 13, 2011 at 1:03 PM, Paul Strohmeier >>> <paul.strohme...@gmail.com>**wrote:
>>> you could try using piezzo electric sensors. they would trigger the >>>> projections based on the vibrations created by the peoples movements. >>>> i think using a wind sensor will probbly be a very complex undertakig in >>>> order to get useful readings from it. >>>> p. >>>> - sent from android device - >>>> On Dec 13, 2011 6:02 AM, "Alexandra Gelis"<i...@alexandragelis.com**> >>>> wrote:
>>>>> hello! >>>>> I am having a problem, see if some of you guys have any idea... >>>>> I need to trigger videos projected by tree projectors. >>>>> The videos should be trigger by the subtle air or wind produced by the >>>>> walking of the viewers on a room. The viewer will be surrounding by >>>>> the 3 >>>>> video projections. >>>>> My first idea was to use video cameras connected with MAXmsp and >>>>> create a >>>>> grid to mark and read the movement of the people on the space. >>>>> But, it will be better if is possible to measured the air produce by >>>>> their movement, because conceptually works better with the video >>>>> installation that i working on it. >>>>> Any idea to how to resolve this? >>>>> I was wondering if there is any kind of wind sensor that can be >>>>> connected >>>>> in to Arduino... >>>>> IDEAS? >>>>> I am really appreciated your help! >>>>> Thanks >>>>> Alexandra >>>>> -- >>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>> Groups >>>>> "NYCResistor:Microcontrollers" group. >>>>> To post to this group, send email to >>>>> nycresistormicrocontrollers@**googlegroups.com<nycresistormicrocontrollers@ googlegroups.com> >>>>> . >>>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>>> nycresistormicrocontrollers+**unsubscribe@googlegroups.com<nycresistormicro controllers%2Bunsubscribe@googlegroups.com> >>>>> . >>>>> For more options, visit this group at >>>>> http://groups.google.com/**group/**nycresistormicrocontrollers?**hl=en<http://groups.google.com/group/nycresistormicrocontrollers?hl=en> >>>>> .
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> I really like the idea of using Kinetics.. do you more info about it? some > tutorial? or suggestions that I can follow? > Thanks a lot!! > Alexandra
> On Tue, Dec 13, 2011 at 6:40 PM, Dan Lavin <dan...@verizon.net> wrote:
>> Have you considered a passive infrared (PIR) sensor? These are commonly >> used in motion detectors. One or more of these may do what you want.
>> Alternatively, you could try hanging some sheets of aluminum foil in the >> room and detect their movement with a reflective sensor.
>> On 12/13/2011 3:50 PM, Rolan wrote:
>>> Do ya think the Kinect would be a good fit here?
>>> ~Rolan
>>> On Dec 13, 1:42 pm, Eric Skiff<m...@ericskiff.com> wrote:
>>>> Agreed - you'd probably find that any HVAC system in the space would >>>> create >>>> more noise in the wind data than people moving through the space.
>>>> Personally I would probably try to do this with a webcam and optical >>>> flow >>>> analysis using OpenCV
>>>> There are many other things you can do to simulate fluid/gas movement >>>> in a >>>> space once you have information about which way objects are moving in a >>>> field of view. >>>> If you take a look at some of Grant Kot's physics simulation videos >>>> here:http://www.youtube.com/**user/kotsoft?blend=8&ob=5(he<http://www.youtube.com/user/kotsoft?blend=8&ob=5%28he>was our intern here at >>>> QLabs!) you'll get a sense for what you can do with optical flow data.
>>>> -E
>>>> On Tue, Dec 13, 2011 at 1:03 PM, Paul Strohmeier >>>> <paul.strohme...@gmail.com>**wrote:
>>>> you could try using piezzo electric sensors. they would trigger the >>>>> projections based on the vibrations created by the peoples movements. >>>>> i think using a wind sensor will probbly be a very complex undertakig >>>>> in >>>>> order to get useful readings from it. >>>>> p. >>>>> - sent from android device - >>>>> On Dec 13, 2011 6:02 AM, "Alexandra Gelis"<i...@alexandragelis.com**> >>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> hello! >>>>>> I am having a problem, see if some of you guys have any idea... >>>>>> I need to trigger videos projected by tree projectors. >>>>>> The videos should be trigger by the subtle air or wind produced by the >>>>>> walking of the viewers on a room. The viewer will be surrounding by >>>>>> the 3 >>>>>> video projections. >>>>>> My first idea was to use video cameras connected with MAXmsp and >>>>>> create a >>>>>> grid to mark and read the movement of the people on the space. >>>>>> But, it will be better if is possible to measured the air produce by >>>>>> their movement, because conceptually works better with the video >>>>>> installation that i working on it. >>>>>> Any idea to how to resolve this? >>>>>> I was wondering if there is any kind of wind sensor that can be >>>>>> connected >>>>>> in to Arduino... >>>>>> IDEAS? >>>>>> I am really appreciated your help! >>>>>> Thanks >>>>>> Alexandra >>>>>> -- >>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>> Groups >>>>>> "NYCResistor:Microcontrollers" group. >>>>>> To post to this group, send email to >>>>>> nycresistormicrocontrollers@**googlegroups.com<nycresistormicrocontrollers@ googlegroups.com> >>>>>> . >>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>>>> nycresistormicrocontrollers+**unsubscribe@googlegroups.com<nycresistormicro controllers%2Bunsubscribe@googlegroups.com> >>>>>> . >>>>>> For more options, visit this group at >>>>>> http://groups.google.com/**group/**nycresistormicrocontrollers?** >>>>>> hl=en<http://groups.google.com/group/nycresistormicrocontrollers?hl=en> >>>>>> .
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We've used the Kinect successfully to do more precise things where CV would normally be a good fit, because with the depth data we can easily filter out the background.
On Tue, Dec 13, 2011 at 3:50 PM, Rolan <rolany...@gmail.com> wrote: > Do ya think the Kinect would be a good fit here?
> ~Rolan
> On Dec 13, 1:42 pm, Eric Skiff <m...@ericskiff.com> wrote: > > Agreed - you'd probably find that any HVAC system in the space would > create > > more noise in the wind data than people moving through the space.
> > Personally I would probably try to do this with a webcam and optical flow > > analysis using OpenCV
> > There are many other things you can do to simulate fluid/gas movement in > a > > space once you have information about which way objects are moving in a > > field of view. > > If you take a look at some of Grant Kot's physics simulation videos here: > http://www.youtube.com/user/kotsoft?blend=8&ob=5(he was our intern here at > > QLabs!) you'll get a sense for what you can do with optical flow data.
> > -E
> > On Tue, Dec 13, 2011 at 1:03 PM, Paul Strohmeier > > <paul.strohme...@gmail.com>wrote:
> > > you could try using piezzo electric sensors. they would trigger the > > > projections based on the vibrations created by the peoples movements.
> > > i think using a wind sensor will probbly be a very complex undertakig > in > > > order to get useful readings from it.
> > > p.
> > > - sent from android device - > > > On Dec 13, 2011 6:02 AM, "Alexandra Gelis" <i...@alexandragelis.com> > > > wrote:
> > >> hello! > > >> I am having a problem, see if some of you guys have any idea... > > >> I need to trigger videos projected by tree projectors. > > >> The videos should be trigger by the subtle air or wind produced by the > > >> walking of the viewers on a room. The viewer will be surrounding by > the 3 > > >> video projections. > > >> My first idea was to use video cameras connected with MAXmsp and > create a > > >> grid to mark and read the movement of the people on the space. > > >> But, it will be better if is possible to measured the air produce by > > >> their movement, because conceptually works better with the video > > >> installation that i working on it. > > >> Any idea to how to resolve this? > > >> I was wondering if there is any kind of wind sensor that can be > connected > > >> in to Arduino... > > >> IDEAS? > > >> I am really appreciated your help!
> > >> Thanks > > >> Alexandra
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On Wed, Dec 14, 2011 at 10:29 PM, Eric Skiff <m...@ericskiff.com> wrote: > We've used the Kinect successfully to do more precise things where CV > would normally be a good fit, because with the depth data we can easily > filter out the background.
> -E
> On Tue, Dec 13, 2011 at 3:50 PM, Rolan <rolany...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Do ya think the Kinect would be a good fit here?
>> ~Rolan
>> On Dec 13, 1:42 pm, Eric Skiff <m...@ericskiff.com> wrote: >> > Agreed - you'd probably find that any HVAC system in the space would >> create >> > more noise in the wind data than people moving through the space.
>> > Personally I would probably try to do this with a webcam and optical >> flow >> > analysis using OpenCV
>> > There are many other things you can do to simulate fluid/gas movement >> in a >> > space once you have information about which way objects are moving in a >> > field of view. >> > If you take a look at some of Grant Kot's physics simulation videos >> here:http://www.youtube.com/user/kotsoft?blend=8&ob=5(he was our intern >> here at >> > QLabs!) you'll get a sense for what you can do with optical flow data.
>> > -E
>> > On Tue, Dec 13, 2011 at 1:03 PM, Paul Strohmeier >> > <paul.strohme...@gmail.com>wrote:
>> > > you could try using piezzo electric sensors. they would trigger the >> > > projections based on the vibrations created by the peoples movements.
>> > > i think using a wind sensor will probbly be a very complex undertakig >> in >> > > order to get useful readings from it.
>> > > p.
>> > > - sent from android device - >> > > On Dec 13, 2011 6:02 AM, "Alexandra Gelis" <i...@alexandragelis.com> >> > > wrote:
>> > >> hello! >> > >> I am having a problem, see if some of you guys have any idea... >> > >> I need to trigger videos projected by tree projectors. >> > >> The videos should be trigger by the subtle air or wind produced by >> the >> > >> walking of the viewers on a room. The viewer will be surrounding by >> the 3 >> > >> video projections. >> > >> My first idea was to use video cameras connected with MAXmsp and >> create a >> > >> grid to mark and read the movement of the people on the space. >> > >> But, it will be better if is possible to measured the air produce by >> > >> their movement, because conceptually works better with the video >> > >> installation that i working on it. >> > >> Any idea to how to resolve this? >> > >> I was wondering if there is any kind of wind sensor that can be >> connected >> > >> in to Arduino... >> > >> IDEAS? >> > >> I am really appreciated your help!
>> > >> Thanks >> > >> Alexandra
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Presuming you're on a mac and have xcode, you'd download the latest openframeworks, go into the addons folder, then openCV, and open one of the demo projects in there. The vast majority of openFrameworks projects I've seen start from one of the demos and then tweak/build from there.
The ofxKinect package is very similar, once you've got the basics of working with openFrameworks down, it just provides depth data along with the pixels, which can be much cleaner to work with if you're using it to affect an interactive installation.
-E
On Wed, Dec 14, 2011 at 11:09 PM, Alexandra Gelis <i...@alexandragelis.com>wrote:
> So Eric your suggestion it will be work with CV? do you have some > examples, or tutorials? > I haven work before with CV at all.... > Thanks! > Alexandra
> On Wed, Dec 14, 2011 at 10:29 PM, Eric Skiff <m...@ericskiff.com> wrote:
>> We've used the Kinect successfully to do more precise things where CV >> would normally be a good fit, because with the depth data we can easily >> filter out the background.
>> -E
>> On Tue, Dec 13, 2011 at 3:50 PM, Rolan <rolany...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> Do ya think the Kinect would be a good fit here?
>>> ~Rolan
>>> On Dec 13, 1:42 pm, Eric Skiff <m...@ericskiff.com> wrote: >>> > Agreed - you'd probably find that any HVAC system in the space would >>> create >>> > more noise in the wind data than people moving through the space.
>>> > Personally I would probably try to do this with a webcam and optical >>> flow >>> > analysis using OpenCV
>>> > There are many other things you can do to simulate fluid/gas movement >>> in a >>> > space once you have information about which way objects are moving in a >>> > field of view. >>> > If you take a look at some of Grant Kot's physics simulation videos >>> here:http://www.youtube.com/user/kotsoft?blend=8&ob=5(he was our intern >>> here at >>> > QLabs!) you'll get a sense for what you can do with optical flow data.
>>> > -E
>>> > On Tue, Dec 13, 2011 at 1:03 PM, Paul Strohmeier >>> > <paul.strohme...@gmail.com>wrote:
>>> > > you could try using piezzo electric sensors. they would trigger the >>> > > projections based on the vibrations created by the peoples movements.
>>> > > i think using a wind sensor will probbly be a very complex >>> undertakig in >>> > > order to get useful readings from it.
>>> > > p.
>>> > > - sent from android device - >>> > > On Dec 13, 2011 6:02 AM, "Alexandra Gelis" <i...@alexandragelis.com> >>> > > wrote:
>>> > >> hello! >>> > >> I am having a problem, see if some of you guys have any idea... >>> > >> I need to trigger videos projected by tree projectors. >>> > >> The videos should be trigger by the subtle air or wind produced by >>> the >>> > >> walking of the viewers on a room. The viewer will be surrounding >>> by the 3 >>> > >> video projections. >>> > >> My first idea was to use video cameras connected with MAXmsp and >>> create a >>> > >> grid to mark and read the movement of the people on the space. >>> > >> But, it will be better if is possible to measured the air produce >>> by >>> > >> their movement, because conceptually works better with the video >>> > >> installation that i working on it. >>> > >> Any idea to how to resolve this? >>> > >> I was wondering if there is any kind of wind sensor that can be >>> connected >>> > >> in to Arduino... >>> > >> IDEAS? >>> > >> I am really appreciated your help!
>>> > >> Thanks >>> > >> Alexandra
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