Hardening NYS Driver's Licenses Into Cannuckistan Passports
Anna.Ma...@gmail.com
Enhanced Empire State
Jul 9, 2008
The U.S. Department of Homeland Security will accept the enhanced
drivers' licenses that New York is developing. Gov. David A. Paterson
announced that the state's Department of Motor Vehicles is creating
the license, which New Yorkers will show in place of passports at U.S.
borders. The license is scheduled for release by the end of summer,
according to a statement from Paterson's office.
New York expects to become the second state - after Washington - to
offer enhanced licenses. Participation is voluntary for U.S. citizens
residing in New York. They'll need to visit the DMV in person - and
present identity and citizenship documents - before receiving the
licenses. The license will comply with the Western Hemisphere Travel
Initiative and will contain special security features. It's designed
to resemble regular New York licenses but will have distinctive
features to indicate it's enhanced.
New York state leaders want to issue enhanced licenses to facilitate
transit between the United States and the nearby Canadian provinces of
Quebec and Ontario. Sectors of the upstate economy rely on smooth
cross-border travel.
Bill
Driver's license if it is optional, if one already possess a Passport
and it is optional and costs additional money.
Peter T. Daniels
The vast majority of Americans, including the vast majority of New
Yorkers, do not have a passport, and whatever NYS will charge will be
considerably less than the passport fee.
When will Alaska, Idaho, Montana, North Dakota, Minnesota, Michigan,
Vermont, New Hampshire, and Maine follow suit?
Anna.Ma...@gmail.com
That would be off-topic. Let's go for it!
The alternative to a state having an enhanced DL ID is (surprise)
another transponder card.
http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/2008-07-20-passport_N.htm
Travelers start applying for pocket-sized passport
[ the USA Passport Card is pictured ]
People who chafe at the cost of a passport or worry about carrying one
to the beach soon will have a cheaper, easier option.
The government is on the cusp of releasing passport cards that fit in
a wallet and cost half the price of a new passport. About 350,000
Americans have applied for the new card, the latest step toward
ratcheting up border security.
Ultimately, many millions of passport cards should be in circulation,
helping day-trippers and frequent visitors who travel by land or sea.
A regular passport is required for air travel.
The government issued 18 million regular passports last year, and the
number is steadily climbing.
The new cards fit inside a wallet and, for first-time adult
applicants, will cost $45, compared with $100 for a first-time
traditional passport. For people who hold a passport or apply for one
simultaneously, the card will cost an extra $20.
One concern for privacy advocates is that each passport card will
contain an embedded radio transmitter chip. Known as RFID, the
technology is controversial because critics fear that data from the
chips could unknowingly be lifted by remote readers, in what's called
"skimming."
Staeben said a skimmer would only get a meaningless ID number from the
passport cards. The number allows customs agents to automatically pull
up a passport file on a computer from government databases, but
skimmers would not have access to the raw data. As an added
precaution, travelers could cover their cards in a sleeve that blocks
transmissions.
RFID chips have been embedded in every passport issued since August
2006. Staeben said security measures, including an embedded metal cage
to block out skimmers, were featured in the newer passports to protect
privacy and combat skimming.
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http://www.dol.wa.gov/driverslicense/edlsecurity.html
Q: Are there any laws against reading the radio frequency
identification (RFID) tag in my EDL/ID without my permission?
A: Yes, the Washington State Legislature just passed Engrossed
Substitute House Bill 1031, which makes it a Class C felony to
intentionally read, capture, or possess information from a person’s
Enhanced Driver License/ID Card without that person’s knowledge or
consent.
Q: Can I turn off the radio frequency identification (RFID) tag?
A: No, tampering with or deactivating the RFID tag embedded in your
EDL/ID will invalidate the card so it cannot be used for border
crossing.
Bill
as I remember a Cviil Rights Issue was made about making a license to
drive a car into a form of identification.
I remmenber back in the early 1980's in CA with my old photoless NYS
license in opening a bank account, untill I turned in my NY License
to obtain a CA License a photo without any other form of
identification.
Are we eventually going to an internal passport system such as exists
in Europe which we must show to obtain a hotel room and show to the
police when move into a house or an apartment?
Anna.Ma...@gmail.com
>
> Are we eventually going to an internal passport system such as exists
> in Europe which we must show to obtain a hotel room and show to the
> police when move into a house or an apartment?
Probably, yes. The TSA has ruled in the past couple months that we
must have our DL (or the like) in order to be a passenger on an
airplane.
Just to fly about the country, domestically.
Phil Kane
wrote:
>New York expects to become the second state - after Washington - to
>offer enhanced licenses. Participation is voluntary for U.S. citizens
>residing in New York. They'll need to visit the DMV in person - and
>present identity and citizenship documents - before receiving the
>licenses.
Oregon now requires this documentation (a US passport and Social
Security/Medicare card is acceptable) as a condition of renewing
existing Driver Licenses (mine comes up at the end of this year and my
wife goes in tomorrow to renew hers) but the renewed licenses do not
meet the enhanced license standard, as far as we know. And for us old
folks we have to take another eye test (a good thing).
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Phil Kane
Beaverton, OR
Bill
> On Sun, 20 Jul 2008 23:37:06 -0700 (PDT), Anna.Marek6...@gmail.com
My question is what docuemenation does a native born citizen need to
provide to DMV in order to obtain an enhanced license, if he does not
possess a passport?
Anna.Ma...@gmail.com
The Oregon DMV site said a birth certificate.
The same item needed to get a passport.
Phil Kane
<wwel...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>My question is what docuemenation does a native born citizen need to
>provide to DMV in order to obtain an enhanced license, if he does not
>possess a passport?
Certified birth certificate and proof of residence in the state of
issuance (the latter is required for any type of new license, enhanced
or not).
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"Stand Clear of the Closing Doors, Please"
Phil Kane - Beaverton, OR
PNW Beburg MP 28.0 - OE District