Circular bus routes?
SAMMY FINKELMAN
would be better. Especially if the bus made only right turns. One
example could be a bus - let's say starting on 75th - which they call
Bay Ridge Parkway - and Bay parkway (=22nd Avenue) in brooklyn, running
west till New Utrecht Avenue and then on 16th Avenue to the B a the B/N
subway station - and then further east till bay Parkway and then down to
75th and so on. It would take about 20 minutes. To be good the bus
should run frequently, maybe every 5 minutes.
Another example of a bus route - there is no good one between
Bensonhurst and Boro park - would be staring at 21 Avenue and 83rd St -
there are a lot of people theer who want to go - make that an official
stop , then to 85 Street , east to Bay Parkway, then down Bay Parkway to
75th Street say, then down 16th Avenue to 50th Street - he would not go
to the lower streets because there you have the subway, which can be
reached if someone is near 86 Street - then east to 18 Avenue then down
18 Avenue to 75th - so it would run ione way on 16th Avenue and the
other way on 18th Avenue, then on 7th Street to 21 Avenue and then
Jack Arthur
the bus terminal near LIRR/City Hall (is Long Beach a real city or just a
village? If the latter, is it part of Hempstead Township? What are the 10
townships in Suffolk? What townships and cities are there in Westchester?)
SAMMY FINKELMAN <sammy.f...@relaynet.org> wrote in message
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Michael Hamm
> Another example of a bus route - there is no good one between
> Bensonhurst and Boro park - would be staring at 21 Avenue and 83rd St -
> 75th Street say, then down 16th Avenue to 50th Street - <snip> then east
> to 18 Avenue then down 18 Avenue to 75th - so it would run ione way on
> 16th Avenue and the other way on 18th Avenue, then on 7th Street to 21
> Avenue and then
(The end of your post didn't get through to my server, unless "Avenue and
then" *was* the end. In any event:)
There is a Bensonhurst - BP bus which has a route quite different from the
one you just proposed. It runs something like from 86th and Stillwell, to
86th and Bay Pkwy, to 60th and Bay Pkwy, to 60th and (18th?), to 49th and
(17th?) up to Maimonides, and then back down 50th and via approximately
the same route to its starting point. It's privately run; I don't knwo the
company name, but I do know the price ($1.50, no MCs or transfers) and the
nickname ("the green bus", as it's... you guessed it: green).
Michael Hamm
BA, Math, Aug. '00
msh...@nyu.edu
http://www.crosswinds.net/~msh210/
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sammy.f...@relaynet.org (SAMMY FINKELMAN) wrote:
> Someone had an idea for relatively short, 1-way bus rides. he said they
> would be better. Especially if the bus made only right turns.
To speed traffic, many New York City streets were converted from two-way
to one-way.
To make bus trips within NYC as speedy and safe as possible, two good
rules of thumb are (1) bus routes generally should be on one-way streets
(or at least not on narrow, two-way streets), and (2) bus routes should
have right turns rather than left turns. That's common sense.
..........................................
Now let's change from common sense to the MTA.
"[MTA union leader] James said specific demands would be presented Oct. 7.
The union's current three-year contract expires Dec. 15."
BUS
The token vendors, bus drivers, and other overpaid New York City MTA
employees want a raise. As in the past, they may strike unless they get a
raise. For people who would like to privatize the MTA bus division, an
MTA strike is a golden opportunity. If MTA bus personnel go on strike,
the MTA should immediately lay off all striking bus division employees,
then sell (or at least mothball) all buses.
As soon as the strike starts, traffic police should be told to refrain
from ticketing buses which stop at MTA bus stops. Any bus, regardless of
ownership, should be allowed to use MTA bus stops to take on and let off
passengers as soon as the strike starts.
FERRY
There are many ferry operators on the east coast. Many ferries are plain,
and many are fancy (snack shops, restaurants, bars, etc.). Many ferries
can carry hundreds of cars and passengers each.
There are ferries that are operated in the northeast (e.g., New England)
in the summer and in Florida in the winter. Those ferries follow the
tourist trade.
If there's an MTA strike, ferry owners from all over the east coast should
be invited to come to New York City to move passengers and vehicles within
NYC.
PREPARATION
Bus owners throughout the NYC region, and ferry owners throughout the east
coast, should be encouraged to make money in NYC during any MTA strike
(which may start soon after December 15th). During the strike, the city
government should encourage (or at least allow) America's bus owners and
ferry owners to alleviate traffic congestion in NYC. During the strike,
city employees should overlook and disregard legalities and technicalities
which ordinarily might apply to bus and ferry operation.
CONCLUSION
1. The city and the MTA should prepare for an MTA strike by
notifying America's bus owners and ferry owners that there may be an
opportunity to make much money in NYC soon after December 15th.
2. The MTA may soon have a rare opportunity to quickly privatize
the MTA's entire bus division.
3. The city and teh MTA should consider paying small subsidies to
privately owned bus companies and ferry companies which relieve traffic
congestion in NYC during an MTA strike.
Peter Rosa
>
> They have two one way loops (an east and a west) run by Long Beach Bus from
> the bus terminal near LIRR/City Hall (is Long Beach a real city or just a
> village? If the latter, is it part of Hempstead Township? What are the 10
> townships in Suffolk? What townships and cities are there in Westchester?)
>
Hempstead.
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Peter Rosa
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Paul Matus
Jack Arthur <onl...@my-dejanews.com> wrote in message
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> They have two one way loops (an east and a west) run by Long Beach Bus
from
> the bus terminal near LIRR/City Hall (is Long Beach a real city or just a
> village? If the latter, is it part of Hempstead Township? What are the 10
> townships in Suffolk? What townships and cities are there in Westchester?)
The five western Suffolk towns (NYS nomenclature) are Huntington, Smithtown,
Babylon, Islip and Brookhaven.
The five eastern Suffolk towns that would like to be "Peconic County" are
Riverhead, Southhold, Shelter Island, Southhampton and Easthampton
Xerooid
>from
>> the bus terminal near LIRR/City Hall (is Long Beach a real city or just a
>> village? If the latter, is it part of Hempstead Township?
Long Beach is a real city, it's just not a very large one. Long Beach is not
part of the Town of Hempstead.
BTY, Long Beach and Glen Cove are the only two cities on Long Island.
Everyplace else is part of one Town or another.
Jack Arthur
Xerooid <xer...@aol.com> wrote in message
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What about the City of New York?
Jack Arthur
That's not funny, let's start over:
What about Long Island City?
Paul Matus
I believe Long Island City was a city. Now it is just a location with "City"
in its name. "Grant City" on Staten Island was never a city. Nor is "Garden
City" (on Long Island) a city.
There are no Towns, Villages or Hamlets any longer in New York City, but
there were in the areas that were consolidated into the City of Greater New
York.
People are always assigning names that have politicial significance
incorrectly. The term "Huntington Village" is now widely used to describe
the upscale heart of the Huntington area of Huntington Town on Long Island.
But, politically, it is not a village, it's a hamlet.
Peter T. Daniels
>
> Jack Arthur <onl...@my-dejanews.com> wrote in message
> news:7t3fj7$dsd$1...@birch.prod.itd.earthlink.net...
> >
> > Xerooid <xer...@aol.com> wrote in message
> > news:19991001172851...@ng-fk1.aol.com...
> > > >They have two one way loops (an east and a west) run by Long Beach Bus
> > > >from
> > > >> the bus terminal near LIRR/City Hall (is Long Beach a real city or
> just
> > a
> > > >> village? If the latter, is it part of Hempstead Township?
> > >
> > > Long Beach is a real city, it's just not a very large one. Long Beach is
> > not
> > > part of the Town of Hempstead.
> > > BTY, Long Beach and Glen Cove are the only two cities on Long Island.
> > > Everyplace else is part of one Town or another.
> >
> > What about the City of New York?
>
> That's not funny, let's start over:
Yes it is.
--
Peter T. Daniels gram...@worldnet.att.net
gre...@monmouth.com
>Long Island City is in Queens, a borough of NYC.
Where it seems that _every_ bus route is circular! Try to make all
the connections to travel from Astoria to College point...