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hanc...@bbs.cpcn.com

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Dec 3, 2009, 3:10:25 PM12/3/09
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The MTA announced it, apparently same as last year.

For details the NYCT press release is at:
http://www.mta.info/mta/news/releases/?en=091203-NYCT195

Steven M. O'Neill

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Dec 4, 2009, 3:40:08 PM12/4/09
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That URL's not working for me. Try:
http://www.mta.info/mta/news/releases/?en=091203-NYCT195a

Here's the 2007 Schedule:

2nd Av Queens Pza
10:01am 10:45am
11:31am 12:10pm
1:01pm 1:45pm
2:31pm 3:10pm
4:01pm 4:45pm

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Date: Thu, 27 Nov 2008 09:58:33 -0500
From: "Joseph D. Korman" <joe...@earthlink.net>
)

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Steven M. O'Neill

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Dec 4, 2009, 3:44:00 PM12/4/09
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Steven M. O'Neill <ste...@panix.com> wrote:
> <hanc...@bbs.cpcn.com> wrote:
>>The MTA announced it, apparently same as last year.
>>
>>For details the NYCT press release is at:
>>http://www.mta.info/mta/news/releases/?en=091203-NYCT195
>
>That URL's not working for me. Try:
>http://www.mta.info/mta/news/releases/?en=091203-NYCT195a
>
>Here's the 2007 Schedule:
>
>2nd Av Queens Pza
>10:01am 10:45am
>11:31am 12:10pm
>1:01pm 1:45pm
>2:31pm 3:10pm
>4:01pm 4:45pm

And here's another schedule. But the dates are wrong:

http://mta.info/nyct/service/events/nostalgia.htm

I guess it's from last year (same schedule times as above).

Peter T. Daniels

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Dec 4, 2009, 4:08:11 PM12/4/09
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On Dec 4, 3:44 pm, ste...@panix.com (Steven M. O'Neill) wrote:
> Steven M. O'Neill <ste...@panix.com> wrote:
> > <hanco...@bbs.cpcn.com> wrote:

> >>The MTA announced it, apparently same as last year.
>
> >>For details the NYCT press release is at:
> >>http://www.mta.info/mta/news/releases/?en=091203-NYCT195
>
> >That URL's not working for me.  Try:
> >http://www.mta.info/mta/news/releases/?en=091203-NYCT195a
>
> >Here's the 2007 Schedule:
>
> >2nd Av  Queens Pza
> >10:01am 10:45am
> >11:31am 12:10pm
> >1:01pm  1:45pm
> >2:31pm  3:10pm
> >4:01pm  4:45pm
>
> And here's another schedule.  But the dates are wrong:
>
> http://mta.info/nyct/service/events/nostalgia.htm
>
> I guess it's from last year (same schedule times as above).

So now we know the times (but not which day this is happening) in 2007
and 2008. Does hanco... know something about 2009 that he's not
telling us?

Joseph D. Korman

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Dec 4, 2009, 8:07:07 PM12/4/09
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Here is the correct link (a) at the end is missing.
http://www.mta.info/mta/news/releases/?en=091203-NYCT195a

I found out that the train was inspected and ready to go Thursday
evening, then wasn't home all day Friday to follow up. As in the past
it starts the first trip at second ave at 10:00am. It's 90 minutes for
the round trip.

Here's my page with the schedule:
http://www.thejoekorner.com/museum-fleet-2009.shtm


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hanc...@bbs.cpcn.com

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Dec 15, 2009, 3:34:37 PM12/15/09
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On Dec 4, 8:07 pm, "Joseph D. Korman" <joe...@earthlink.net> wrote:

> Here's my page with the schedule:http://www.thejoekorner.com/museum-fleet-2009.shtm

Thanks again for posting this information, it's very useful.

Has anyone ridden the historic train (or buses) this year?

Other than a press reelase, AFAIK the MTA hasn't issued any other
publicity. Last year I think they flagged it specially on the main
webpage. That seems strange.

Joseph D. Korman

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Dec 16, 2009, 12:49:39 PM12/16/09
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FWIW, I suppose they don't want too much publicity, since the MTA has
voted to cut service and cancel free/reduced transportation for school
trips.

I'm not sure how much of the museum fleet operation is voluntary, if any.

Peter T. Daniels

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Dec 16, 2009, 3:20:33 PM12/16/09
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On Dec 16, 12:49 pm, "Joseph D. Korman" <joe...@earthlink.net> wrote:

> hanco...@bbs.cpcn.com wrote:
> > On Dec 4, 8:07 pm, "Joseph D. Korman" <joe...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>
> >> Here's my page with the schedule:http://www.thejoekorner.com/museum-fleet-2009.shtm
>
> > Thanks again for posting this information, it's very useful.
>
> > Has anyone ridden the historic train (or buses) this year?
>
> > Other than a press reelase, AFAIK the MTA hasn't issued any other
> > publicity.  Last year I think they flagged it specially on the main
> > webpage.  That seems strange.
>
> FWIW, I suppose they don't want too much publicity, since the MTA has
> voted to cut service and cancel free/reduced transportation for school
> trips.
>
> I'm not sure how much of the museum fleet operation is voluntary, if any.

Do they need to bring in old retired guys to do it, or can the regular
crew of that run handle it?

Peter Schleifer

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Dec 17, 2009, 7:39:30 AM12/17/09
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On Tue, 15 Dec 2009 12:34:37 -0800 (PST), hanc...@bbs.cpcn.com wrote:

>Has anyone ridden the historic train (or buses) this year?

I did, on the 6th. It wasn't planned, I just happened upon it while
waiting at Broadway-Lafayette. There was a PA announcement that the
next train on the local track would be the holiday museum train going
to 2nd Ave. I got to ride it for one stop - it was the last run of
the day so I couldn't take it back uptown.

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Peter Schleifer
"Save me from the people who would save me from myself"

Joseph D. Korman

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Dec 17, 2009, 12:49:55 PM12/17/09
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I know there's at least one retired fellow in maintenance who works on
the trains. Like the trolley and railroad museums throughout the
country, there hasn't been a shortage of volunteers to maintain and run
the equipment.

If anyone is interested, the Shoreline Trolley Museum, in East Haven,
Conn is setting up their training classes to qualify to run the trolleys
for the public. Membership is $40 a year and you get to work the
trolleys and give tours of the car barns (about 20 cars are on display).

http://www.bera.org/

houn...@yahoo.co.uk

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Dec 17, 2009, 4:20:15 PM12/17/09
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Joseph D. Korman wrote:
> Peter T. Daniels wrote:
>> On Dec 16, 12:49 pm, "Joseph D. Korman" <joe...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>>
>>> hanco...@bbs.cpcn.com wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Dec 4, 8:07 pm, "Joseph D. Korman" <joe...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Here's my page with the
>>>>> schedule:http://www.thejoekorner.com/museum-fleet-2009.shtm
>>>>>
>>>> Thanks again for posting this information, it's very useful.
>>>> Has anyone ridden the historic train (or buses) this year?
>>>> Other than a press reelase, AFAIK the MTA hasn't issued any other
>>>> publicity. Last year I think they flagged it specially on the main
>>>> webpage. That seems strange.
>>>>
>>> FWIW, I suppose they don't want too much publicity, since the MTA has
>>> voted to cut service and cancel free/reduced transportation for school
>>> trips.
>>>
>>> I'm not sure how much of the museum fleet operation is voluntary, if
>>> any.
>>>
>>
>> Do they need to bring in old retired guys to do it, or can the regular
>> crew of that run handle it?
>>
> I know there's at least one retired fellow in maintenance who works on
> the trains. Like the trolley and railroad museums throughout the
> country, there hasn't been a shortage of volunteers to maintain and run
> the equipment.

What if they have not run trains in a while? Do they have to do a
refresher on the trains and on the route itself?

Vince

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Dec 17, 2009, 4:37:48 PM12/17/09
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I guess they might have a refresher of some kind.
As far as the route goes hey there's only one way the train can go.

vpilutis.vcf

houn...@yahoo.co.uk

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Dec 17, 2009, 4:56:01 PM12/17/09
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I mean in terms of curves, stations markers, speed restrictions,
switches, etc.

Vince

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Dec 17, 2009, 7:45:21 PM12/17/09
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Oh I see

vpilutis.vcf

Joseph D. Korman

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Dec 18, 2009, 1:34:22 PM12/18/09
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houn...@yahoo.co.uk wrote:
> Joseph D. Korman wrote:
>>>
>>>
>> I know there's at least one retired fellow in maintenance who works
>> on the trains. Like the trolley and railroad museums throughout the
>> country, there hasn't been a shortage of volunteers to maintain and
>> run the equipment.
>
> What if they have not run trains in a while? Do they have to do a
> refresher on the trains and on the route itself?
I haven't worked there in 20 years, I don't know what kind of refresher
you'd need. When we were there this year, there were a number of
physical changes to the line, that's you'd have to become familiar with.

wa...@fordham.edu

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Dec 19, 2009, 9:40:04 PM12/19/09
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http://mta.info/mta/news/releases/?en=091218-NYCT201A

New York City Transit's Nostalgia Shoppers' Special will not operate
this Sunday due to the cold weather operating plan in place in the
subway system. However, weather permitting, the vintage train is
scheduled to return to service next Sunday, December 27th.

Michael Wares

hanc...@bbs.cpcn.com

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Dec 20, 2009, 12:42:43 AM12/20/09
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On Dec 17, 4:20 pm, "hounsl...@yahoo.co.uk" <hounsl...@yahoo.co.uk>
wrote:

> What if they have not run trains in a while? Do they have to do a
> refresher on the trains and on the route itself?

I believe a newspaper report said the motorman and main conductor were
regular staff; I doubt a carrier these days would permit a volunteer
to operate a revenue train over its network. Volunteers might work as
auxillary crew to keep an eye on things and assist passengers; the
trains had a large crew on them. Volunteers might help in the shops
with restoration.

hanc...@bbs.cpcn.com

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Dec 20, 2009, 12:44:02 AM12/20/09
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On Dec 19, 9:40 pm, "wa...@fordham.edu" <wa...@fordham.edu> wrote:

> New York City Transit's Nostalgia Shoppers' Special will not operate
> this Sunday due to the cold weather operating plan in place in the
> subway system. However, weather permitting, the vintage train is
> scheduled to return to service next Sunday, December 27th.

Thanks for the update, much appreciated!


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