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Queen Catherine of Braganza has been kicked out of Queens Borough Hall

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Sam Sloan

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Jan 15, 2002, 2:30:34 PM1/15/02
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The New York Post reported yesterday that the painting of Queen
Catherine of Braganza has been kicked out of Queens Borough Hall.

http://www.nypost.com/seven/01142002/news/regionalnews/38859.htm

Queen Catherine of Braganza is the queen for whom Queens Borough is
named.

I believe that she lived 1638-1705. Is this correct??

The Post suggests that the old queen was kicked out because she
profited from the slave trade. For the first time ever, an African
American has been elected Queens Borough President and one of the
first things the new president has done has been to kick out the old
queen.

Any comments?

Sam Sloan

Gary Lloy

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Jan 15, 2002, 3:11:22 PM1/15/02
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I doubt there's one black person in New York who knew who Queen Braganza
was before this. We do, however, know who Washington and Jefferson are
and so if the new Borough president would like to get rid of any dollar
bills she owns with their likeness on them, I, for one, would only be
too please to accomodate her.

Garrett Lloyd

David McDuffee

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Jan 15, 2002, 3:13:08 PM1/15/02
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Sam Sloan wrote:
> Any comments?

I couldn't care less how they decorate the inside of Queens Borough Hall.

--
David McDuffee
mcdu...@best.com

John G Harrison

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Jan 15, 2002, 3:42:22 PM1/15/02
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"Gary Lloy" <gary...@netscape.net> wrote in message
news:3C448CEA...@netscape.net...

> I doubt there's one black person in New York who knew who Queen Braganza
> was before this. We do, however, know who Washington and Jefferson are
> and so if the new Borough president would like to get rid of any dollar
> bills she owns with their likeness on them, I, for one, would only be
> too please to accomodate her.

White, racist USA speaks. Ignorant [Queen Braganza], stupid '[I doubt there
are many white persons who know who she was, either], misinformed [and how
many New Yorkers, white or black, actually do know who Jefferson was?] and
powerful. And it wonders why the world doubts!
Yuk
John

Dick Wisan

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Jan 15, 2002, 6:33:06 PM1/15/02
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In article <3c4485a...@ca.news.verio.net>, Sam Sloan, (sl...@ishipress.com) says...

>
>
>The New York Post reported yesterday that the painting of Queen
>Catherine of Braganza has been kicked out of Queens Borough Hall.
>
>http://www.nypost.com/seven/01142002/news/regionalnews/38859.htm
>
>Queen Catherine of Braganza is the queen for whom Queens Borough is
>named.
>
>I believe that she lived 1638-1705. Is this correct??
>
>The Post suggests that the old queen was kicked out because she
>profited from the slave trade.

Odd. I should think it much more important to get the name of the
Borough (& County) changed.

--
R. N. (Dick) Wisan Email: wis...@hartwick.edu
Snail: 37 Clinton St., Oneonta, NY 13820, USA
Just your opinion, please, Ma'am. No fax.

Joel Rubin

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Jan 16, 2002, 8:20:53 AM1/16/02
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Wasn't there a plan to put a statue of her in Long Island City, maybe
near the portal of the Midtown Tunnel that was killed due to her
alleged role in the slave trade?

Of course, it's a bit dubious to rate people who lived centuries ago
by the standards of today. Still one can judge people if, for example,
others around them made different choices.

One of the weekly free Queens newspapers sometimes reprints part of an
historic Queens newspaper and a few months ago I remember one from as
late as the late 1820's which had an escaped slave in I believe
Jamaica (Queens). Nieuw Nederlands and then New York was an important
center of the slave trade for many years New York was the most
important slave holding state in the North.

Freedom came only gradually (people who were of a certain age were
freed on a certain date) beginning with initiatives by Alexander
Hamilton who, rumor has it, might have been of mixed blood himself.

ofergneezy

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Jan 16, 2002, 9:04:06 AM1/16/02
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sl...@ishipress.com (Sam Sloan) wrote in message news:<3c4485a...@ca.news.verio.net>...

I thought it got that name because it was the borough where all the
transvestites lived.

Regards,
Ofergneezy (still looking for work)

Von Bailey

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Jan 16, 2002, 12:27:20 PM1/16/02
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wis...@catskill.net (Dick Wisan) wrote in message news:<a22e7...@enews2.newsguy.com>...

> In article <3c4485a...@ca.news.verio.net>, Sam Sloan, (sl...@ishipress.com) says...
> >
> >
> >The New York Post reported yesterday that the painting of Queen
> >Catherine of Braganza has been kicked out of Queens Borough Hall.
> >
> >http://www.nypost.com/seven/01142002/news/regionalnews/38859.htm
> >
> >Queen Catherine of Braganza is the queen for whom Queens Borough is
> >named.
> >
> >I believe that she lived 1638-1705. Is this correct??
> >
> >The Post suggests that the old queen was kicked out because she
> >profited from the slave trade.
>
> Odd. I should think it much more important to get the name of the
> Borough (& County) changed.


It would be more important if the goal was to snub the queen somehow.
But it may also be as suggested in the article that it's an old dirty
painting like the rest of them that are being replaced and no thought
at all was given WRT to queen's portrait alone.

von

wba...@panix.com

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Jan 16, 2002, 4:30:28 PM1/16/02
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In soc.history.medieval Sam Sloan <sl...@ishipress.com> wrote:
: The New York Post reported yesterday that the painting of Queen

: http://www.nypost.com/seven/01142002/news/regionalnews/38859.htm

: Any comments?

: Sam Sloan

Another new city official is taking down the picture of George Washington
as he is just a dead white guy. Ths Daily News had an article on this
today (saw it on the tv "in the Papers" segment showing the renamed Dead
White Guy DC and Dead White Guy State, etc.

Just thought it might interest this thread.
No comment:-)
Wendy Baker

Michael

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Jan 16, 2002, 6:40:13 PM1/16/02
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Joel Rubin wrote:

> Wasn't there a plan to put a statue of her in Long Island City, maybe
> near the portal of the Midtown Tunnel that was killed due to her
> alleged role in the slave trade?

yes

>
>
> Of course, it's a bit dubious to rate people who lived centuries ago
> by the standards of today. Still one can judge people if, for example,
> others around them made different choices.
>
> One of the weekly free Queens newspapers sometimes reprints part of an
> historic Queens newspaper and a few months ago I remember one from as
> late as the late 1820's which had an escaped slave in I believe Jamaica
> (Queens). Nieuw Nederlands and then New York was an important center of
> the slave trade for many years New York was the most important slave
> holding state in the North.

Slaves were traded on Wall Street.

michael


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