Drunk NYPD Cop Mows Down Motorcyclist - 21 (Extremely Critical)
Emerson
By ERIKA MARTINEZ, DENISE BUFFA and BRAD HUNTER
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
TERRIBLE WRECK:
Cops inspect the scene where a motorcyclist was mowed down in Bay
Ridge. He's in critical shape.
N.Y. Post: G.N. Miller
June 21, 2002 -- A motorcyclist was clinging to life last night and an
off-duty NYPD cop was in jail on drunken-driving charges after a
horrifying crash on Fort Hamilton Parkway in Brooklyn.
Officer Victor Wilson, 43, of Staten Island, was driving a 1995
Chrysler Cirrus east on 88th Street and attempting to make a left turn
onto Fort Hamilton Parkway near the Verrazano Bridge about 10:45 p.m.
Wednesday, police said.
As he turned, Wilson crashed into motorcyclist Stephanos Kiliditis,
21, of Bay Ridge, Brooklyn, throwing him into the air.
Kiliditis was taken to Lutheran Medical Center, where he was listed in
"extremely critical" condition with severe head trauma.
Last month, Police Commissioner Ray Kelly toughened the department'‘s
policy on DWI cops in the wake of the arrest and conviction of Joseph
Gray, a drunken cop who mowed down a Brooklyn family.
The new policy states that any cop who seriously injures someone while
driving drunk will be fired - pending a departmental probe and due
process.
Kelly said this crash is tailor-made for the new policy.
"That policy is fully applicable in the situation," Kelly said, adding
that Wilson has been suspended.
Wilson, a 12-year veteran, works at the 120th Precinct in Staten
Island.
Charged in a Brooklyn court with vehicular assault, assault, reckless
endangerment and DWI, Wilson was held on $100,000 bail.
Defense lawyer Brian Wellsome suggested the motorcyclist blew through
a red light, causing the crash, and hinted he may have been going too
fast.
But prosecutors said it was Wilson's fault and that a field sobriety
test 90 minutes after the crash indicated Wilson'‘s blood-alcohol
level was 0.11 percent, just over the legal limit.
Additional reporting by Marianne Garvey
Grand Lodge Master
Emerson <blu...@yourhouse.com> wrote in message
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[snip]
......Wilson''s blood-alcohol
level was 0.11 percent, just over the legal limit.
Makes me wonder what the legal limit is in NY.
Is it 0.10, or 0.08 or what?
It should be 0.05 as it is in Australia.
Mark the milkman
"Grand Lodge Master" <GrandLod...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
news:BrSQ8.27$os5....@vicpull1.telstra.net...
There's two levels in NY.
0.05 is 'driving while impaired', sometimes called 'driving under
influence' - DUI
0.10 is 'driving while intoxicated' - DWI
So it's quite a bit over the 'legal limit'
Often the latter is pled down to the former, in normal traffic stops.
Ben Dover
Grand Lodge Master <GrandLod...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
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>
Ben
>
>
>
>
moocat
> There's two levels in NY.
>
> 0.05 is 'driving while impaired', sometimes called 'driving under
> influence' - DUI
> 0.10 is 'driving while intoxicated' - DWI
If you're pulled over having 0.06 can you be cited?
--
If you flame me, then the terrorists have won.
mike
DA Probes Cops
On DWI Case
By MELISSA GRACE and RICHARD WEIR
Daily News Staff Writers
As family members held vigil at a critically injured motorcyclist's
bedside yesterday, Brooklyn prosecutors were investigating why police
waited four hours to tell them that the biker was struck by an off-duty
cop who allegedly was driving drunk.
"We expect to be notified immediately when any driver in an accident is
found to be intoxicated," said Jerry Schmetterer, a spokesman for the
Brooklyn district attorney's office. "We have asked for an explanation
of why it took so long to be notified that the cop was intoxicated at
the scene."
NYPD brass said department procedures were followed.
The cop, Victor Wilson, 43, was arraigned Thursday on charges stemming
from a crash Wednesday night that left biker Stephanos Kiladitis, 21, of
Brooklyn, in critical condition at Lutheran Medical
Center.
Wilson, a 12-year veteran, had worked a day tour at Staten Island's
120th Precinct on Wednesday. He left his service weapon and shield at
home in Tottenville, then went to a Bay Ridge, Brooklyn, bowling alley
where he bowls every week.
Ran Red Light
Prosecutors said they were contacted by police about 2:30 a.m., some
four hours after Wilson's car collided with Kiladitis' 1998 Kawasaki
motorcycle on Fort Hamilton Parkway and 88th St. in Bay Ridge, two
blocks from the bowling alley.
Three other motorcyclists riding with Kiladitis told police that
Wilson's Chrysler Cirrus ran a red light while turning left from 88th St.
Cops said Wilson smelled of alcohol. His clothes were dirty and
disheveled, witnesses said. The officers, from the 68th Precinct,
contacted highway investigators, who gave Wilson a sobriety test about
90 minutes after the crash. He registered a level of .116, police said.
The legal limit is .1. He was arrested and taken to the 78th Precinct,
where he refused a more sophisticated test — prompting supervisors to
contact the district attorney for a warrant to draw blood.
Prosecutors got the warrant about 4:30 a.m., and Wilson was taken to New
York Methodist Hospital, where a blood sample was taken, a source told
the Daily News. Investigators said the results were not ready yesterday.
Wilson was charged with vehicular assault, second-degree assault,
reckless endangerment and driving under the influence of alcohol. He was
being held in lieu of $50,000 bail and had been suspended from the
police force.
Chief Michael Collins said there is no policy requiring police officers
to contact prosecutors immediately after a drunken-driving incident.
Moves Defended
"As far as we are concerned, all current police procedures have been
adhered to," Collins said. "Within five minutes [of Wilson's refusal to
take a Breathalyzer test], highway police officers notified the DA, as
is required."
Another high-ranking police investigator said Wilson's refusal to take
the Breathalyzer test was videotaped.
A 31-year-old carpenter who witnessed police actions at the accident
scene said a field sobriety test was not performed until after 12:30 a.m.
"Because he was a cop, they waited two hours," said the witness, who
identified himself only as James. "I believe they were trying to help him."
Kiladitis' family sat around the clock near his bed in the
intensive-care unit, where the Bay Ridge man is on life support and in a
coma, said his father, Eletherios Kiladitis, 47.
Original Publication Date: 6/22/02
mike
Tom Teller wrote:
> I must add here that the officer in question was only field (breath) tested after TWO
> hours had passed.
>
> When John Q. Public (non-police officer ) gets breathalized in the USA, its done ASAP,
> else you will get the handcuffs slapped on you, pronto !
>
> Who knows how high his BAC was at the time he hit and maimed this innocent motorcyclist?
>
> Most assuredly, it was even higher then .11, to be sure. Another case of the dual
> standards that the Men in Blue continue to support.
Naaaaaaaaaaaaaawwwwwww! There isn't a "Blue Standard" and another for us!!!!!!!
They tell us that all the time!!!!!!!
John Smith
"mike" <moo...@nyc.rr.com> wrote in message
news:3D154332...@nyc.rr.com...
If that had been a trucker, you know damn and good well all hell would break
loose.
1) the trucker would lose his job without question.
2) the trucker would never drive another truck.
3) the company would be sued.
4) The USDOT would impose more stringent procedures on the industry.
5) the news media would headline the incident for days.
But seeing as how this was a police officer of a major city:
1) the officer gets slapped and spanked.
2) the officer gets suspended, perhaps with pay.
3) the officer returns to his job only to be allowed to get drunk on the job
again.
4) the city police department would be sued and settle out of court.
5) the news media would barely make mention of the incident.
But obviously, double standards do exist. NYC, for one, apparently has the
attitude, "see no evil" among it's own in uniform, while at the same time,
the general populace is hauled into court and hanged for doing the same damn
things.
Pride of America
> By ERIKA MARTINEZ, DENISE BUFFA and BRAD HUNTER
> -------------------------------------------------------------------------
> -------
>
> TERRIBLE WRECK:
> Cops inspect the scene where a motorcyclist was mowed down in Bay
> Ridge. He's in critical shape.
> N.Y. Post: G.N. Miller
>
> June 21, 2002 -- A motorcyclist was clinging to life last night and an
> off-duty NYPD cop was in jail on drunken-driving charges after a
> horrifying crash on Fort Hamilton Parkway in Brooklyn.
> Officer Victor Wilson, 43, of Staten Island, was driving a 1995
> Chrysler Cirrus east on 88th Street and attempting to make a left turn
> onto Fort Hamilton Parkway near the Verrazano Bridge about 10:45 p.m.
> Wednesday, police said.
>
> As he turned, Wilson crashed into motorcyclist Stephanos Kiliditis,
> 21, of Bay Ridge, Brooklyn, throwing him into the air.
>
> Kiliditis was taken to Lutheran Medical Center, where he was listed in
> "extremely critical" condition with severe head trauma.
>
> policy on DWI cops in the wake of the arrest and conviction of Joseph
> Gray, a drunken cop who mowed down a Brooklyn family.
>
the drivers license of anyone ever convicted of DUI.
Phil
> But seeing as how this was a police officer of a major city:
>
> 1) the officer gets slapped and spanked.
> 2) the officer gets suspended, perhaps with pay.
> 3) the officer returns to his job only to be allowed to get drunk on the job
> again.
> 4) the city police department would be sued and settle out of court.
> 5) the news media would barely make mention of the incident.
Two words for you: 'Joe Gray'
Phil
========
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mike
Phil wrote:
>
> "John Smith" <us...@example.net> wrote in message news:<3d1551a5$0$84847$45be...@newscene.com>...
>
> > But seeing as how this was a police officer of a major city:
> >
> > 1) the officer gets slapped and spanked.
> > 2) the officer gets suspended, perhaps with pay.
> > 3) the officer returns to his job only to be allowed to get drunk on the job
> > again.
> > 4) the city police department would be sued and settle out of court.
> > 5) the news media would barely make mention of the incident.
>
> Two words for you: 'Joe Gray'
>
Three for you...Captain James O'Connor.
This guy was drunk and killed an inncent construction worker on the
Veranzzano OVER TWO YEARS AGO.
He still has his badge and gun, he is still on the job, his trial has,
mysteriously NOT begun yet. The NYPD is stalling untill
he retires with his Blessed Pension, while family members of
the innocent victim get the shaft.
Ken [NY]
>> Two words for you: 'Joe Gray'
>>
>
>Three for you...Captain James O'Connor.
>
>This guy was drunk and killed an inncent construction worker on the
>Veranzzano OVER TWO YEARS AGO.
A cite please. I never heard of the case.
Ken (NY)
Chairman,
Department Of Redundancy Department
____________________________________
A reminder: Why we are fighting:
http://www.geocities.com/bluesguy68/AmericaAttacked.htm
Ken [NY]
America) blatted:
Don't hold your breath waiting for such a law as long as
legislators drink.
Ken [NY]
<bluesgu...@PANTSaol.com> blatted:
>On Mon, 24 Jun 2002 18:28:57 GMT, mike <moo...@nyc.rr.com> blatted:
>
>>> Two words for you: 'Joe Gray'
>>>
>>
>>Three for you...Captain James O'Connor.
>>
>>This guy was drunk and killed an inncent construction worker on the
>>Veranzzano OVER TWO YEARS AGO.
>
> A cite please. I never heard of the case.
Oops. Sorry, just found it.
mike
"Ken [NY]" wrote:
>
> On Mon, 24 Jun 2002 18:25:04 -0400, "Ken [NY]"
> <bluesgu...@PANTSaol.com> blatted:
>
> >On Mon, 24 Jun 2002 18:28:57 GMT, mike <moo...@nyc.rr.com> blatted:
> >
> >>> Two words for you: 'Joe Gray'
> >>>
> >>
> >>Three for you...Captain James O'Connor.
> >>
> >>This guy was drunk and killed an inncent construction worker on the
> >>Veranzzano OVER TWO YEARS AGO.
> >
> > A cite please. I never heard of the case.
>
> Oops. Sorry, just found it.
Thats OK, I reposted it for you.
BTW, it was the Throgs Neck bridge, so please can the lameflame on that point.
Paul Veres
> On 22 Jun 2002 23:44:22 -0500, "John Smith" <us...@example.net> wrote:
>
>
>>"mike" <moo...@nyc.rr.com> wrote in message
>>news:3D154332...@nyc.rr.com...
>
>
>>level was 0.11 percent, just over the legal limit.
>>
>
>
>
> protecting thier jobs and retirement benefits at the expense of the public, including the
> very life and health of this poor biker.
>
> The one word that comes to mind in dealing with these police is: Hypocrites.
>
> I am a retired deputy sheriff (sergeant), and have been trained in breath testing. If the
officer had been tested right away, it would have been .03% higher. To
bad he wasn't stopped before he hurt somebody. This type of conduct is
not tolerated in the sheriff's department I belonged to. Don't judge
all police officers by the actions of a few.
MarshaL0000
our own.
L.B.
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
"Grand Lodge Master" <GrandLod...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
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>
Michael Zarlenga
:>The best way to prevent crimes like this is to permanently take away
:>the drivers license of anyone ever convicted of DUI.
: Don't hold your breath waiting for such a law as long as
: legislators drink.
Nor while the rest of us still have brains and can spot fanatical
MADD morons who overreact.
This jagoff wants to permanently revoke a person's license for ONE
DUI, without any property damage or injuury resulting? Gimme a
friggin break. What's next, dropping the legal BAC to 0.01%?
--
-- Mike Zarlenga
Failure is not an option; it comes standard with Microsoft software.
mike
Michael Zarlenga wrote:
>
> In alt.law-enforcement Ken [NY] <bluesgu...@PANTSaol.com> wrote:
> :>The best way to prevent crimes like this is to permanently take away
> :>the drivers license of anyone ever convicted of DUI.
>
> : Don't hold your breath waiting for such a law as long as
> : legislators drink.
>
> Nor while the rest of us still have brains and can spot fanatical
> MADD morons who overreact.
>
> This jagoff wants to permanently revoke a person's license for ONE
> DUI, without any property damage or injuury resulting? Gimme a
> friggin break. What's next, dropping the legal BAC to 0.01%?
>
One is too many.
Michael Zarlenga
:> Nor while the rest of us still have brains and can spot fanatical
:> MADD morons who overreact.
:>
:> This jagoff wants to permanently revoke a person's license for ONE
:> DUI, without any property damage or injuury resulting? Gimme a
:> friggin break. What's next, dropping the legal BAC to 0.01%?
: One is too many.
Why isn't one drink too many?
Phil Clarke Jr.
"Michael Zarlenga" <zarl...@conan.ids.net> wrote in message
news:ui7emv...@corp.supernews.com...
> In alt.law-enforcement Ken [NY] <bluesgu...@PANTSaol.com> wrote:
> :>The best way to prevent crimes like this is to permanently take away
> :>the drivers license of anyone ever convicted of DUI.
Taking away someone's license will not stop them from driving. When you
read about the career drunk drivers in the paper, you usually read that
their licenses have been suspended, and revoked already.
> This jagoff wants to permanently revoke a person's license for ONE
> DUI, without any property damage or injuury resulting? Gimme a
> friggin break. What's next, dropping the legal BAC to 0.01%?
MADD and other neo-temperence groups are slowly getting the BAC limits
lowered. It's part of their plan to bring back prohibition.
Phil
mike
Michael Zarlenga wrote:
>
> In alt.law-enforcement mike <moo...@nyc.rr.com> wrote:
> :> Nor while the rest of us still have brains and can spot fanatical
> :> MADD morons who overreact.
> :>
> :> This jagoff wants to permanently revoke a person's license for ONE
> :> DUI, without any property damage or injuury resulting? Gimme a
> :> friggin break. What's next, dropping the legal BAC to 0.01%?
>
> : One is too many.
>
> Why isn't one drink too many?
Thats what Designated Drivers are for, as are taxis and buses.
d...@cheetah.net
You know of a plan to bring back Prohibition?
If that is so, there's money to be made.
DCI
mike
So, Phiily... what is the suitable punishment for;
1) DWI....no collision/damage
2) DWI...collision/damage
3) DWI...loss of life.
in YOUR opinion, of course.
mike
Philly has been drinking too much of his "Hom*Brew" and
is afraid that the boogeyman is coming to take away his beer.
He could care less that the boogeyman had started taking away
his freedoms, privacy and liberty....but hey, as long as he has
his bathtub-made suds, he could care less.
Phil
> Philly has been drinking too much of his "Hom*Brew" and
> is afraid that the boogeyman is coming to take away his beer.
> He could care less that the boogeyman had started taking away
> his freedoms, privacy and liberty....but hey, as long as he has
> his bathtub-made suds, he could care less.
LADIES AND GENTLEMEN! A BIG ROUND OF APPLAUSE FOR MIKE AND HIS ONE-TRICK PONY!!!
Phil
Phil
> BTW, it was the Throgs Neck bridge, so please can the lameflame on that point.
People in glass houses, Mike....
Phil
> "Grand Lodge Master" <GrandLod...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
> news:BrSQ8.27$os5....@vicpull1.telstra.net...
> |
> | Emerson <blu...@yourhouse.com> wrote in message
> | news:o4v5hugo7gsmfa3dj...@4ax.com...
> |
> | [snip]
> |
> | ......Wilson''s blood-alcohol
> | level was 0.11 percent, just over the legal limit.
> |
> | Makes me wonder what the legal limit is in NY.
> |
> | Is it 0.10, or 0.08 or what?
> |
> | It should be 0.05 as it is in Australia.
> |
> |
>
> There's two levels in NY.
>
> 0.05 is 'driving while impaired', sometimes called 'driving under
> influence' - DUI
> 0.10 is 'driving while intoxicated' - DWI
At .1% you're presumed to be intoxicated. However, you can also be
charged with DWI at .05% if you fail the sobriety tests.
mike
Pot, Kettle, Black.
Notice the lack of denial. I guess it must be true.
mike
I apologized, Philly, you never do,
BTW, you wrote:
> MADD and other neo-temperence groups are slowly getting the BAC limits
> lowered. It's part of their plan to bring back prohibition.
>
So, Phiily... what is the suitable punishment for;
1) DWI....no collision/damage
2) DWI...collision/damage
3) DWI...loss of life.
in YOUR opinion, of course.
We are still waiting for your answer and not your
"one trick pony" remark, oh....did you say something
about "glass houses"? You know that a glass house
cannot be filled with "Hom*Brew", sorry to spoil
your wet dream.
Phil
Yes, it must be true if I don't deny your bullshit accusations.
Phil
Phil
> So, Phiily... what is the suitable punishment for;
>
> 1) DWI....no collision/damage
>
> 2) DWI...collision/damage
>
> 3) DWI...loss of life.
>
> in YOUR opinion, of course.
>
> We are still waiting for your answer and not your
> "one trick pony" remark, oh....did you say something
> about "glass houses"? You know that a glass house
> cannot be filled with "Hom*Brew", sorry to spoil
> your wet dream.
We are waiting? Who is 'we?' And why are so so suddenly interested
in my opinion? You only seem interested in insulting people.
And what the hell does 'a glass house can't be filled with hom*brew'
mean? You're babbling even more than usual.
Phil
ABC
If you wren't drunk you would understand English.
>
> Phil
mike
Phil wrote:
>
> mike <moo...@nyc.rr.com> wrote in message news:<3D26792F...@nyc.rr.com>...
>
> > So, Phiily... what is the suitable punishment for;
> >
> > 1) DWI....no collision/damage
> >
> > 2) DWI...collision/damage
> >
> > 3) DWI...loss of life.
> >
> > in YOUR opinion, of course.
> >
> > We are still waiting for your answer and not your
> > "one trick pony" remark, oh....did you say something
> > about "glass houses"? You know that a glass house
> > cannot be filled with "Hom*Brew", sorry to spoil
> > your wet dream.
>
> We are waiting? Who is 'we?' And why are so so suddenly interested
> in my opinion? You only seem interested in insulting people.
We are waiting for your answer.
> And what the hell does 'a glass house can't be filled with hom*brew'
> mean? You're babbling even more than usual.
No, I am letting God sort it out, so we all can see. ;-)
Phil Clarke Jr.
>
>
> Phil wrote:
> >
> > mike <moo...@nyc.rr.com> wrote in message
news:<3D26792F...@nyc.rr.com>...
> >
> > > So, Phiily... what is the suitable punishment for;
> > >
> > > 1) DWI....no collision/damage
> > >
> > > 2) DWI...collision/damage
> > >
> > > 3) DWI...loss of life.
> > >
> > > in YOUR opinion, of course.
> > >
> > > We are still waiting for your answer and not your
> > > "one trick pony" remark, oh....did you say something
> > > about "glass houses"? You know that a glass house
> > > cannot be filled with "Hom*Brew", sorry to spoil
> > > your wet dream.
> >
> > We are waiting? Who is 'we?' And why are so so suddenly interested
> > in my opinion? You only seem interested in insulting people.
>
> We are waiting for your answer.
Well, I hope you're in a comfortable chair then....
> > And what the hell does 'a glass house can't be filled with hom*brew'
> > mean? You're babbling even more than usual.
>
> No, I am letting God sort it out, so we all can see. ;-)
Comfortable chair, Mike....
Phil
mike
"Phil Clarke Jr." wrote:
>
> "mike" <moo...@nyc.rr.com> wrote in message
> news:3D271127...@nyc.rr.com...
> >
> >
> > Phil wrote:
> > >
> > > mike <moo...@nyc.rr.com> wrote in message
> news:<3D26792F...@nyc.rr.com>...
> > >
> > > > So, Phiily... what is the suitable punishment for;
> > > >
> > > > 1) DWI....no collision/damage
> > > >
> > > > 2) DWI...collision/damage
> > > >
> > > > 3) DWI...loss of life.
> > > >
> > > > in YOUR opinion, of course.
> > > >
> > > > We are still waiting for your answer and not your
> > > > "one trick pony" remark, oh....did you say something
> > > > about "glass houses"? You know that a glass house
> > > > cannot be filled with "Hom*Brew", sorry to spoil
> > > > your wet dream.
> > >
> > > We are waiting? Who is 'we?' And why are so so suddenly interested
> > > in my opinion? You only seem interested in insulting people.
> >
> > We are waiting for your answer.
>
> Well, I hope you're in a comfortable chair then....
Lame dodge....and yopu say that I won't answer! ;-)
> > > And what the hell does 'a glass house can't be filled with hom*brew'
> > > mean? You're babbling even more than usual.
> >
> > No, I am letting God sort it out, so we all can see. ;-)
>
> Comfortable chair, Mike....
Lame dodge....see above.
Nice to know that after all your wining and bitching about my
position on this case, you still haven't offered YOU OWN opinion.
Whats the matter Phil, too many cops in the "Homebrewers"???
Who are you afraid of?
Here I ask you AGAIN...(its getting tiring, even in my comfy chair!)
1) DWI....no collision/damage
2) DWI...collision/damage
3) DWI...loss of life.
I say....
1) Suspended one year
2) Suspended five years
3) 15 years each count consecutive
You say.......
Phil Clarke Jr.
> > > We are waiting for your answer.
> >
> > Well, I hope you're in a comfortable chair then....
>
> Lame dodge....and yopu say that I won't answer! ;-)
You don't back up your arguments (using the word 'argument' loosely).
> Nice to know that after all your wining and bitching about my
> position on this case, you still haven't offered YOU OWN opinion.
> Whats the matter Phil, too many cops in the "Homebrewers"???
I don't know any cops who homebrew.
> Who are you afraid of?
I'm not afraid of anything, Mike. I just don't see the point in answering
your question. You've proven in the past that you have no respect for me or
my opinions. Why the sudden interest?
> Here I ask you AGAIN...(its getting tiring, even in my comfy chair!)
>
> 1) DWI....no collision/damage
>
> 2) DWI...collision/damage
>
> 3) DWI...loss of life.
>
> I say....
>
> 1) Suspended one year
> 2) Suspended five years
> 3) 15 years each count consecutive
>
> You say.......
I say you're an asshole. Why are you so concerned with my opinion in this
matter?
Phil
mike
"Phil Clarke Jr." wrote:
> I say you're an asshole.
Aren't you glad you finally got that off your chest?
>Why are you so concerned with my opinion in this matter?
Because YOU are so damned concerned about MINE, you twit.
YOUR car gets busted into.....
YOUR house has an attempted break-in....
YOU don't feel safe without your Ghouleee....
YOU.....YOU......YOU.....
But then, its always about YOU Philly....
Phil Clarke Jr.
>
>
> "Phil Clarke Jr." wrote:
>
> > I say you're an asshole.
>
> Aren't you glad you finally got that off your chest?
>
> >Why are you so concerned with my opinion in this matter?
>
> Because YOU are so damned concerned about MINE, you twit.
I hate to burst your bubble, Mike, but I couldn't give a rat's ass about
your opinion. I have never asked for it and I would never want it. When
have I ever asked you for your opinion?
Phil
mike
"Phil Clarke Jr." wrote:
> I hate to burst your bubble, Mike, but I couldn't give a rat's ass about
> your opinion. I have never asked for it and I would never want it. When
> have I ever asked you for your opinion?
You may have never asked for it, but everytime I post, you are
Johnny-On-The-Spot with your criticism and whining.
Have a nice day! :-)
Nina K.
"Phil Clarke Jr." <dogg...@pipeline.com> schrieb im Newsbeitrag
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Phil Clarke Jr.
Criticism and whining? I think you're confusing criticism and whining ("too
much Hom*brew, Philly") with exposing lies ("Cite your source, Mike").
Phil
