BLOOMBERG'S BIGOTRY
Freedom Fighter
Giuliani's mean-spirited legacy is being perpetuated by a successor that
certainly should know better -
Purim, which usually falls in March, is the holiday commemorating the
deliverance of the Jewish people of the ancient Persian Empire from Haman's
plot to annihilate them.
The celebration fills the streets of Boro Park and New York's other large
Jewish neighborhoods. Many children and some adults dress up in elaborate
costumes. Decorated vehicles - sometimes buses and limos - cruise the
streets, and sound systems in cars and in front of homes blare music in
Hebrew and English. And, for as long as I can recall, fireworks have been
used in the streets of New York City's Jewish communities as part of this
festive celebration.
Much has changed over the last decade under Giuliani's and now Bloomberg's
ZERO TOLERANCE police-state regime. Fireworks used by the public, once a
joyous staple of holidays, have been all but eradicated - except for within
the Jewish community on Purim! But there a great time is had by all, and
appropriate caution is used. I have never heard of any injury or damage
involving fireworks on Purim. The fireworks used now are of the "safe and
sane" variety legal in most states - snappers, sparklers and such - with
none of the dangerous exploders like M-80s that cause accidents through
carelessness.
Purim is the only remaining holiday on which fireworks are used in New York
without intensive police suppression. The police, somehow unseen in the
Jewish neighborhoods at this time, also ignore other activities that would
not be tolerated elsewhere, even on "Independence" Day - such as drinking
and intoxication, very loud street music without a permit, blocking traffic,
and generally boisterous conduct.
I enjoy this celebration as do many others, and no one is harmed by it.
Under the founding fathers' principle of the pursuit of happiness, all
Americans have a RIGHT to such pleasures. But WHY is that right being denied
to all other New Yorkers on all other occasions? The public use of fireworks
on the Chinese New Year is far more intrinsic to the religious and cultural
aspects of that observance than to Purim, yet on every Chinese New Year
since 1997 Chinatown has been literally filled with cops to prevent it. Our
Fourth of July is now observed with police helicopters circling overhead,
reporting fireworks sightings to their ground forces, which move in to
steal - that is, "confiscate" the fireworks, and at the very least issue a
summons or verbally abuse the celebrants. But somehow, on Purim there is no
enforcement of the fireworks prohibition at all!
This selective enforcement clearly constitutes FAVORITISM and RELIGIOUS,
RACIAL, AND CULTURAL DISCRIMINATION. On these grounds, unless the
authorities relent on their suppression, legal action can and should be
taken to grant all other New Yorkers the same privileges now enjoyed by the
Jewish community alone. Ex-mayor Giuliani was clearly a racist and
fun-hating, mean-spirited tyrant. His blatant favoritism earned him the
title "Jewliani" among some. I had hoped that mayor Bloomberg would be above
this and would undo Giuliani's injustices, but so far he has not.
mcs
of fireworks. Man can we have the name of your religious brothers?
I didn't think so
Can you name all the non jews who murdered in NY in the last year? O)r don't
you care most were not jewish? That don't bother you? lol
Can you name all the people who drank and drove and killed people and then
tell us their religion? Or don't you care about that?
"Freedom Fighter" <lib...@once.net> wrote in message
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mcs
percent are we made to endure by jewish control? I don't see any (thats none
on my 40 tv stations in my city). When I go to a funeral I hardly ever see
any police office lead the way. I see many police head and detail for other
funerals. When I go to religious schools thru out my region I see many cops
at other religious schools and I see none at most Jewish schools. The power
of the jews to control the fireworks is what worries you? wow
"Freedom Fighter" <lib...@once.net> wrote in message
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Freedom Fighter
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> funny, of all the things to worry about your worried about the jews
> control of fireworks. Man can we have the name of your religious brothers?
> I didn't think so
> Can you name all the non jews who murdered in NY in the last year? O)r
> don't you care most were not jewish? That don't bother you? lol
> Can you name all the people who drank and drove and killed people and then
> tell us their religion? Or don't you care about that?
My article has little to do with any specific religion, or race, or cultural
group. It merely exposes official FAVORITISM. It is about FAIRNESS and
FREEDOM - - EQUAL TREATMENT UNDER THE LAW FOR ALL. No special favors for
anyone!
When it comes to freedoms and pleasures like celebrating "Independence" Day
or Purim with small, harmless fireworks, all citizens should have EQUAL
freedom, all the year around.
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5...@hotnail.com
wrote:
>can you tell me how many jewish programs are on tv every sunday? What
>percent are we made to endure by jewish control? I don't see any (thats none
>on my 40 tv stations in my city). When I go to a funeral I hardly ever see
>any police office lead the way. I see many police head and detail for other
>funerals. When I go to religious schools thru out my region I see many cops
>at other religious schools and I see none at most Jewish schools. The power
>of the jews to control the fireworks is what worries you? wow
>"Freedom Fighter" <lib...@once.net> wrote in message
Top posting asshole.
Slim
Too bad you are just too stupid to see that FF's point was SELECTIVE
ENFORCEMENT OF THE LAW.
The Jews can shoot fireworks oof for Purim but the Chinese cannot for
the Lunar New year?
Thats selective enforcement based on religion.
And thats just wrong.
- slim
--
"When fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in the flag and
carrying the cross." - Sinclair Lewis
mcs
Yeah right, what a joke
car...@hotmail.com
wrote:
>can you tell me how many jewish programs are on tv every sunday? What
>percent are we made to endure by jewish control? I don't see any (thats none
>on my 40 tv stations in my city). When I go to a funeral I hardly ever see
>any police office lead the way. I see many police head and detail for other
>funerals. When I go to religious schools thru out my region I see many cops
>at other religious schools and I see none at most Jewish schools. The power
>of the jews to control the fireworks is what worries you? wow
>"Freedom Fighter" <lib...@once.net> wrote in message
Why don't you get off your paranoid anti-semitic high horse you top
posting asswipe and try hard to stick to the point?
Charmin
Slim wrote:
>
> Too bad you are just too stupid to see that FF's point was SELECTIVE
> ENFORCEMENT OF THE LAW.
>
> The Jews can shoot fireworks oof for Purim but the Chinese cannot for
> the Lunar New year?
>
> Thats selective enforcement based on religion.
>
> And thats just wrong.
>
> - slim
>
Reminds me of the words of Dr. Umayma Ahmad Al-Jalahma of King Faysal
University in Al-Dammam:
"For this holiday, the victim must be a mature adolescent who is, of
course, a non-Jew – that is, a Christian or a Muslim. His blood is taken
and dried into granules. The cleric blends these granules into the
pastry dough; they can also be saved for the next holiday. In contrast,
for the Passover slaughtering, about which I intend to write one of
these days, the blood of Christian and Muslim children under the age of
10 must be used, and the cleric can mix the blood [into the dough]
before or after dehydration."
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/fr/645831/posts?page=2
Ob...@real.com
wrote:
>
>Too bad you are just too stupid to see that FF's point was SELECTIVE
>ENFORCEMENT OF THE LAW.
>
>The Jews can shoot fireworks oof for Purim but the Chinese cannot for
>the Lunar New year?
>
>Thats selective enforcement based on religion.
>
>And thats just wrong.
>
>- slim
>
The remedy is for the Chinese community to file an
action in court! Prove selective enforcement and
poof, judicial intervention.
Obwon
mcs
<car...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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stick to the point? Talking to anti semetic people is difficult to stick to
a point. , because you only see one side. Objective rational reasoning does
not make your insecurity any better. Yes the jews control the fireworks .
Please sort out all the politicians and crimes by religion. Like that guy
arrested for shooting on the highway today. he was another jew.. I need to
know Harry
mcs
jews go one step further and tell people how to convert if thats their
intention. Its stupid to control and then leave people waiting to join but
leave them standing there.thinking up conspiracy theories instead lol If
they committed 9/11 and went to all that effort to conceal it why would they
celebrate in the open? Why not just tell everyone why they did it?
"The real control and conspiracy theories like damage and dependency on
foreigh energy/ pollution, hate and terror, the differences between rich and
poor, people who have no healthcare, and people being scared from crime lost
health and no way to get a decent job are ignored.
ric...@gmail.com
wrote:
Contrary to what your mommy told you (it appears that you have not yet
left the womb psychologically), no one hates you because you're a jew
if you really are one, it's because you're a fucking fascist asshole
as you prove in the above- you sound like a little Hitler. And of
course jews should be allowed to use fireworks when everyone else
isn't in NYC, to question that is the height of anti-semitism.
Whaaaaaaa.
Freedom Fighter
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If the shoe fits, wear it!
WHY do you believe in allowing special favors for Jews - or anyone else -
under the law?
Freedom Fighter
A person is "antisemitic" for factually exposing special priveleges granted
to the Jewish community that are denied to all other New Yorkers?? They
should be allowed to violate the law with no police action taken, while no
one else is? I'm not saying that they should be denied the privelege of
using fireworks - I'm saying that if they can. all should be able to. But of
course, among Zionist fanatics and Jewish extremists like you, the "chosen
people" should be above the law, right? No wonder there is antisemitism -
people like you bring it on yourselves with your arrogant, elitist
attitudes. It appears to be YOU that is the bigot. You and your beloved
mayors past and present, that is.
mcs
>lol I don't think I know any jews who even used fireworks. lol
mcs
"Charmin" <ms...@pg.com> wrote in message
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Freedom Fighter
I saw them using fireworks with my own eyes in the streets of Boro Park.
This has been done every year, even while Giuliani's crackdown stopped the
use of fireworks by his own bretheren, the Italian-Americans, no less the
Asian-Americans on their New Year.
If you think that Jews, or any group, should be above the law, you do not
belong in America! Move your arrogant, elitist ass to Israel, and fight your
own battles there. Americans and others are getting fed up with fighting
them for you. You have no one to blame for "antisemitism" but yourselves, as
long as you have such attitudes.
Charmin
Freedom Fighter wrote:
> I saw them using fireworks with my own eyes in the streets of Boro Park.
> This has been done every year, even while Giuliani's crackdown stopped the
> use of fireworks by his own bretheren, the Italian-Americans, no less the
> Asian-Americans on their New Year.
Have you also seen the horns on their heads with your very own eyes?
ric...@gmail.com
wrote:
What's amazing is you are suffering the effects of the much circulated
jewish conspiracy theory that everyone blames everything on jews, and
you are blaming your culturally self induced paranoia on the rest of
the world while the rest of the world couldn't care less. You don't
suck major dick because you're a jew, you suck major dick because
you're a dipshit.
Slim
Not a joke. A fact.
A race of people are denied the right to celebrate the Lunar New Year
with fireworks,
yet the members of a SPECIFIC RELIGION (THE JEWS) are allowed to shoot
off fireworks
for thier holiday?
WHAT THE FUCK DO YOU CALL THAT?
Slim
>
>
> Slim wrote:
>>
>> Too bad you are just too stupid to see that FF's point was SELECTIVE
>> ENFORCEMENT OF THE LAW.
>>
>> The Jews can shoot fireworks oof for Purim but the Chinese cannot for
>> the Lunar New year?
>>
>> Thats selective enforcement based on religion.
>>
>> And thats just wrong.
>>
>> - slim
>>
>
> Reminds me of the words of Dr. Umayma Ahmad Al-Jalahma of King Faysal
> University in Al-Dammam:
>
> "For this holiday, the victim must be a mature adolescent who is, of
> course, a non-Jew – that is, a Christian or a Muslim. His blood is
> taken and dried into granules. The cleric blends these granules into
> the pastry dough; they can also be saved for the next holiday. In
> contrast, for the Passover slaughtering, about which I intend to write
> one of these days, the blood of Christian and Muslim children under the
> age of 10 must be used, and the cleric can mix the blood [into the
> dough] before or after dehydration."
And there are Rebbe's who suck the penis' of the little boys they just
mutilated and infect them with Herpes.
Charmin
A blood libel.
Charmin
Slim wrote:
And those rabbis are idiots.
Slim
OY! OY! OY! The Chosen People are above the rest of humanity!
Slim
No, son...its just the truth.
Slim
For what? The multilation of babies or sucking the penis' of babies?
Charmin
Actually, it's not the truth.
If you Google Purim rituals you will note that fireworks are not listed.
Two readings of the Scroll of Esther is listed.
Festive meal is listed.
Gifts of food to friends is listed.
Charity to the poor is listed.
Fireworks are not listed because fireworks are not part of the Purim
tradition, ritual, law.
If you are not comfortable researching information on the web, go to
Borough Park in Brooklyn and ask a Jew, "What time do you set off
fireworks on Purim?" Note the strange, puzzled, "What are you talking
about" look on the person's face.
That's what makes the fireworks accusation similar to a blood libel.
Slim
No.
Its a fact.
Here is some interesting reading for you.
http://orthomom.blogspot.com/2006/03/purim-perils.html
SUNDAY, MARCH 12, 2006
Purim Perils
Interesting piece on YNet:
A Safed Rabbi on Sunday issued an edict banning the use of firecrackers
during the Purim festive day this week.
Rabbi David Lakhiani of the Kabbalh town explained his decision saying:
“Over the last few years, as the rabbi of the local hospital,
I met parents whose children lost an eye or a finger because of
firecrackers exploding near them over Purim. Few days ago, I visited a
kid suffering from burns in the waist area caused by firecrackers he
had placed in his pocket. These events have Halachic repercussions.”
Lakhiani added that according to Jewish law one should avoid
endangering his and other people’s lives. “It is forbidden for men to
injure themselves or others in any way and I think these firecrackers
are dangerous and endanger children’s lives and the Halacha proves my
words,” he said.
I am very pleased to see someone speaking out against some of the Purim
practices of unbridled "festivity" that often become dangerous.
Unfortunately, banning fireworks is just a start, and irrelevant here
in the US, where it is illegal to posess fireworks anyhow. I would be
pleased if a Rabbi would step up to the plate and be more forceful in
speaking out against the unfettered drinking that goes on in so many
yeshivas. I will never get used to the fact that it is assumed to be a
God-given right for so many (underage!) yeshiva boys to get inebriated
to the point that it is not uncommon for more than a few to pass out. I
ate with a friend this Shabbos, and her husband is member of the local
volunteer ambulance association, Hatzalah. He said that on Purim, his
radio goes off all night and day with calls regarding people who have
imbibed way more than is prudent, and need medical attention.
Thankfully, drinking and driving has become much less of an issue in
recent years as yeshiva boys are encouraged to travel in vans and buses
to do the traditional Purim eve activity of house-to-house Tzedakah
collecting. But why can't the heavy drinking be banned or at least
controlled? That is a danger as well.
http://www.peoplehood.org/?p=145
Daily Update from Atid Echad Knesset Campaign
ACTIVISTS GATHER IN YAD ELIYAHU
More than 200 Atid Echad party activists and community leaders gathered
in a Yad Eliyahu park at dusk to hear Avraham Neguise, leader of Atid
Echad, talk about his vision for the Ethiopian Israeli commmunity and
its integration into Israeli society. As a chill and darkness
descended, men and women gathered around a few lampposts some standing,
some squatting and some sitting on the damp ground. Not even the nearby
explosions of post-Purim fireworks could divert the rapt attention of
the crowd as they listened to their leader, resplendid in a dark suit
and red tie.
http://www.business.ualberta.ca/yreshef/purim/facts.html
The Jews of Persia celebrate Purim with great splendor as that is where
the story was unfolded.
The children of the religious schools spend weeks before Purim studying
the Scroll of Esther, and making a life-size figure of Haman to be
hanged in effigy on Purim. During the reading of the Scroll the
children do not use groggers when Haman's name is mentioned. They shoot
off fireworks instead. At night all dress in gay Purim costumes, sing
songs, and send gifts to each other.
http://www.libertypost.org/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=218269
"I at first thought it was the sound of Purim firecrackers," he said.
"We ran to one of the rooms, because we couldn't reach the exit. We
brought some 20 guys into one of the study rooms, and blocked the door
with two tables."
Freedom Fighter
< snip >
>>>> Not a joke. A fact.
>>>>
>>>> A race of people are denied the right to celebrate the Lunar New Year
>>>> with fireworks,
>>>> yet the members of a SPECIFIC RELIGION (THE JEWS) are allowed to shoot
>>>> off fireworks
>>>> for thier holiday?
>>>>
>>>> WHAT THE FUCK DO YOU CALL THAT?
>>
>>> A blood libel.
>>
>> No, son...its just the truth.
>>
>
> Actually, it's not the truth.
>
> If you Google Purim rituals you will note that fireworks are not listed.
>
> Two readings of the Scroll of Esther is listed.
> Festive meal is listed.
> Gifts of food to friends is listed.
> Charity to the poor is listed.
>
> Fireworks are not listed because fireworks are not part of the Purim
> tradition, ritual, law.
>
> If you are not comfortable researching information on the web, go to
> Borough Park in Brooklyn and ask a Jew, "What time do you set off
> fireworks on Purim?" Note the strange, puzzled, "What are you talking
> about" look on the person's face.
>
> That's what makes the fireworks accusation similar to a blood libel.
I have seen fireworks used in the streets of orthodox Jewish neighborhoods
on Purim EVERY YEAR for at least the last 20 years that I have lived near
Boro Park. It may not be an "official" part of the observance, but it does
happen, and it is allowed by the police. Just let an Asian-American in
Chinatown let off a small firecracker on the Chinese New Year and the cops
that heavily patrol the area at that time would ARREST him, or at least
issue him a summons!
But I suppose you consider yourself, and perhaps all Jews, as above the law
that applies to and is enforced against all other Americans. Well if you do,
MOVE YOUR ARROGANT, ELITIST ASS OUT OF AMERICA!
Charmin
Interesting. I drove around Borough Park on Purim looking for people
using fireworks and found no evidence of same.
It is difficult to prove a negative, but perhaps you can advise us of a
specific time and specific location where these alleged fireworks
incidents will occur next year. Then others can share your
observations. Wouldn't that scientifically prove your hypothesis?
> But I suppose you consider yourself, and perhaps all Jews, as above the law
> that applies to and is enforced against all other Americans. Well if you do,
> MOVE YOUR ARROGANT, ELITIST ASS OUT OF AMERICA!
"Ad-hominem attack is the refuge of unintelligent and immature
people that can't refute an opinion with logic or facts, so
they resort to childishly attacking the person that holds the opinion.
Pathetic."
Freedom Fighter
Maybe they were not in use when you drove by, but if you would walk the
streets and look down, the debris could be easily seen.
> It is difficult to prove a negative, but perhaps you can advise us of a
> specific time and specific location where these alleged fireworks
> incidents will occur next year. Then others can share your observations.
> Wouldn't that scientifically prove your hypothesis?
No need to "scientifically prove" anything. It was going on in many streets
of Boro Park, Midwood, and no doubt other Jewish areas. If you refuse to
beleive this then don't, but someone else also posted information here
giving evidence that fireworks are used as part of the Purim celebration
elsewhere as well as in NYC. My objection is not to their use, but to the
fact that everyone else in NYC is NOT allowed to use fireworks at any time,
and that when they do they are subject to police action, but the Jewish
celebrants of Purim are not. That is SELECTIVE ENFORCEMENT and
DISCRIMINATION - racial, religious, and cultural!
>> But I suppose you consider yourself, and perhaps all Jews, as above the
>> law that applies to and is enforced against all other Americans. Well if
>> you do, MOVE YOUR ARROGANT, ELITIST ASS OUT OF AMERICA!
>
> "Ad-hominem attack is the refuge of unintelligent and immature
> people that can't refute an opinion with logic or facts, so
> they resort to childishly attacking the person that holds the opinion.
So? There is no ad-hominem attack in what I've said. Are you perhaps a bit
oversensitive, as are those that respond to any valid criticism of Israel of
Jews with strident screams of ANTISEMITE! ANTISEMITE!
Darrin
again:
> If the shoe fits, wear it!> WHY do you believe in allowing special favors for Jews - or anyone else -> under the law?- >>
Because Jews Built This City on Rock 'N' Roll, you jealous Gentile of
a kvetch! ehee FF, still shovelling your racist dreck, eh? May I
suggest a good day program - one that will teach you how to
fingerpaint: "I must not skip my daily dose of anti-psychotic meds,
and I must accept the beauty & wisdom of the Jews (2% of the American
population - wealthiest ethnic group in the US), for they have
enriched my life immeasurably." -D, NYC "In New York, even if you're
Catholic, you're Jewish. If you live in Butte, Montana, you're going
to be Goyish, even if you're Jewish!" ehe - LENNY BRUCE (b. Leonard
Alfred Schneider, LI, NY - umpteenth sweet, Jewish NYer).."A hustle
here, a hustle there - New York City is the place where they said -
hey babe, take a walk on the wild side" - LOU REED (b. Rabinowitz,
umpteenth sweet, Jewish NYer).."The extraordinary European Jews who
emigrated to New York were enriching the city's intellectual life with
an intensity that has probably never been equaled anywhere during a
comparable period of time. I was raised largely by these Jews...They
were my teachers; they were my employers; they were my friends. They
introduced me to a world of books and ideas that I didn't know
existed" - MARLON BRANDO, excerpt from "Songs My Mother Taught
Me.."One of the great mysteries that has always puzzled me is how
Jews, who account for such a tiny fraction of the world's population,
have been able to achieve so much and excel in so many different
fields - science, music, medicine, literature, arts,
business and more. If you listed the most influencial people of the
last hundred years, three at the top of the list would be Einstein,
Freud and Marx; all were Jews. Many more belong on the list, yet Jews
comprise at most less than 3 percent of the United States population.
They are an amazing people. Imagine the persecution they endured over
the centuries: pogroms, temple burnings, Cossack raids, uprootings of
families, their dispersal to the winds and the Holocaust. After the
Diaspora, they could not own land or worship in much of the world;
they were prohibited from voting and were told where to live. Yet
their children survived and Jews became by far the most accomplished
people per capita that the world has ever produced." - MARLON BRANDO,
IBID.."The basis of successful business is honesty; a business cannot
thrive where the parties to it cannot trust each other. In the matter
of numbers of the Jew counts for little in the overwhelming population
of New York; but that his honesty counts for much is guaranteed by the
fact that the immense wholesale business houses of Broadway, from the
Battery to Union Square, is substantially in his hands." - MARK
TWAIN.."New York City owes its intellectual vitality to the presence
of the Jews...the only people in New York who love books with a
passionate yearning which transcends their attention to all
terrestrial manifestations" - FORD MADOX FORD, British Novelist,
"Horizon" -1926).."Jewish education has, over the years, brought to
New York State the fruits of a proud heritage of learning, a history
of scholarly achievement and a tradition of progressive educational
involvement." - NELSON ROCKEFELLER (former US V.P., NY Governor -
1959-73).."The Jews of New York City today make up the largest,
richest, most creative Jewish community in the world. Yet little more
than a hundred years ago, most of them were desperately poor, living
in teeming immigrant neighborhoods. How these Jews - through struggle,
education, and determination - transformed themselves and their city
is a great American success story. Jewish New Yorkers powered major
city businesses such as the garment and media industries, reinvented
Broadway theatre, and helped invent the modern labor movement. They
also won Nobel Prizes and introduced the United States to such
delights as pastrami, Egg Creams, and an intimitable form of Jewish
comedy" - GREATEST JEWISH CITY IN THE WORLD, excerpt from JEWISH NY:
NOTABLE NEIGHBORHOODS & MEMORABLE MOMENTS BY IRA WOLFMAN.."New York
City has for several centuries offered a promise to the destitute and
downtrodden of the world: venture here and you too can earn a living
in our highy competitive, intensely commercial metropolis. Millions of
Jews took that challenge, found success, and along the way attempted
almost every occupation imaginable" - GOTTA EARN A DOLLAR,
IBID.."Comedians/ Entertainers: American humor - theatre, film,
television - would have lost much of its punch without Groucho, Chico,
and Harpo Marx, Milton Berle, Fanny Brice, George Burns, Sid Caesar,
Eddie Cantor, Judy Holliday, Zero Mostel, Henny Youngman, and even
yes, The Three Stooges (Larry Fine, Moe Horwitz, and Jerome "Curly"
Horwitz). The tradition continued with New York natives Danny Kaye and
Phil Silvers in the 1950s & '60s. Woody Allen and Mel Brooks in the
'70s & '80s, and Jerry Seinfeld in the '90s" - NEW YORK CITY'S JEWISH
ARTISTS, IBID.."Currently, one million Jews live in NYC, in the 1950s,
the community reached two million. Those numbers make NY the largest
Jewish urban community in history. But Jewish New York is not only
enormous, it is also enormously complex. The substantial size of New
York's Jewish society is personally significant to every Jewish person
who lives in the city. The presence of so many Jewish people allows
the populace to live free from the self-consciousness that often
inhibits Jews in other cities" - THE PEOPLE OF JEWISH NEW YORK,
IBID.."At the same time that 350,000 Jews were crammed into the
bustling Lower East Side, other "Israelites" were living a life of
luxury. Only six miles north of Hester Street, Fifth Avenue had, by
the 1890s, become a neighborhood of the fabulously wealthy, and New
York's German Jewish families were among them. The Warburgs, Kahns,
Lehmanns, Guggenheims, Schiffs, Seligmans, Strauses, and Bloomingdales
had made their money in the garment trade, financial world, department
stores, cigar business, and shipping industry. With their wealth, they
built lavish homes close to those of America's superrich, such as
Carnegie and Frick" - UPTOWN JEWS: RICH ON FIFTH AVENUE, IBID.."It was
the 1967 Arab-Israeli war, which preceded by weeks of international
tension, which really demonstrated the depth of New York Jewry's
support for the state of Israel. In a matter of a few weeks, the
city's Jewish community raised $72 million. Six years later, in
response to the 1973 Israel-Arab war, the donations topped $100
million. In today's world, in which an independent but still
threatened Jewish state exists, New York Jews know full well that
their attention to the needs of World Jewry is incredibly important.
Beyond that is the community's keen awareness that Jews the world over
are linked, and that living in the freest, most affluent Jewish
society in the world does release them from responsibility for their
brothers and sisters" - LIONS & LAMBS UNITE TO AID THE SHTETL, IBID
http://tinyurl.com/ytylqx (New York Jewish History)
http://tinyurl.com/3yydhb (Brach's - America's Largest Kosher
Supermarket, NY)
http://www.abigaels.com (Abigael's on Broadway - World's largest
Kosher restaurant)
http://tinyurl.com/ysfgtl (Temple Emanu-El, NYC - World's Largest
Synagogue)
http://tinyurl.com/26fdnj (US Study - Jews Richer Because Of
Religion)
http://tinyurl.com/2v6n4j (Manhattan: Where the rich are filthy rich)
http://tinyurl.com/nqp8w (Forbes: Most Expensive Zip Codes: #1 -
11962, Sagaponack, NY - Hamptons; NY - NY State & NYC appear 20+ more
times)
http://tinyurl.com/2n8e5h (CNN Money: World's most expensive cities,
2007, NYC #15 (down from 10)
http://tinyurl.com/pyz6a (Top 10 Places To Live & Work For Those Under
35 - NY, NY)
http://tinyurl.com/qs7la (World's Most Expensive Hotel Suites - #1 -
Plaza Hotel, NY, NY)
http://tinyurl.com/7hexr (Best States For Raising Healthy Kids: #2 -
NY)
http://tinyurl.com/3nyhl (America's 5 Most/Least Expensive Cities To
Live In: #1 - NYC - most expensive)
http://tinyurl.com/3c6kk (Top 10 Places America Goes To Have Fun - #3
Times Square)
http://tinyurl.com/234vsm (NYC - safest, largest city in the US)
http://tinyurl.com/46f53 (NY, NY - Capital Of The World)
http://tinyurl.com/2tjcgw (A Study In Differences - Are Jews Smarter?
By Richard Cohen, Washington Post)
http://tinyurl.com/38m6o (Jewish population of the US by State)
http://tinyurl.com/666cx (Jewish population of the World)
http://tinyurl.com/68ttu (Jewish Nobel Prizes)
http://tinyurl.com/6qb5e (Is It True - Do Jews Win More Nobel Prizes
than anyone else?)
http://tinyurl.com/4cz9j (Tel-Aviv - Top 10 High-Tech Cities In The
World)
http://tinyurl.com/6exvb (Phenomenon Of The Jews)
http://tinyurl.com/ihif (Jews, IQs & Nobel Laureates)
http://tinyurl.com/9oea7 (Do Jews Run Hollywood!? You Bet They do, and
what of it?" by sweet Ben Stein)
Darrin
anti-Semite) tree, and fingerpainted the following lies:
> On 2008-03-29 10:11:26 -0400, Charmin <m...@pg.com> said:
> > Slim wrote:
> >> And there are Rebbe's who suck the penis' of the little boys
they just
> >> mutilated and infect them with Herpes.
> > And those rabbis are idiots.>
> For what? The multilation of babies or sucking the penis' of babies?>>
You're a regular Einstein (take a guess what his religion and
circumcision status was), eh?ehe Eloquent too! eh The most common cut
in all of medicine is mutilation? LOL! FYI: Circumcision occurs more
frequently than tooth extraction! In the US, over 60% of newborns
(regardless of ethnicity) are circumcised, aka Routine Infant
Circumcision.
Since you were obviously graced with such brooding intellect, you must
have conveniently overlooked the fact that Jews (1/4 of 1% of the
world's population) comprise the least % of any ethnic group who
circumcise! DOH! IOW, most of the world's circumcised are Gentiles,
non-Jews. Once again, anti-circ is really anti-Jew. Thanks for
playing, dip!
As for the sucking of the blood, aka "The Mezizah?" It's only
practiced among Hasidic (Orthodox) sects. When practiced, a cylinder
tube is typically used to prevent any contact. Not for the insane
reasons that you and the rest believe, but for obvious health
concerns. I've attended my fair share of brisses in The Mother of
American Judaism, and not once have I ever seen the mohel perform the
above.
Like Kosher (cool, clean, fit), circumcision has more to do with
hygiene than religion. The male prepuce is a remnant appendage that
should have gone out with Neanderthal man. It serves no useful
purpose, other than to cause a lifetime of unwanted hassles and
ukpeep. If a useless flap of fugly skin grew over your decrepit tush,
would you revel in the bacteria that it traps? -D, NYC "The ladies
love a circumcision!" eh - RABBI TUCKMAN, ROBIN HOOD: MEN IN
TIGHTS.."I was born in Waukegan, a long, long, long time ago. As a
matter of fact, our Rabbi was an Indian..he used a tomahawk...I was
eight days old..what did I know?" ehe - JACK BENNY, b. Kubelsky, sweet
Jew, quoted in Irving A. Fein's Jack Benny.."If all 2,000,000 boys
born in the US annually were circumcised, the following would be
prevented during their lifetimes: 7,000 cases of HIV, 10,000 cases of
syphilis, 20,000 cases of pyeleonephritis, 2,000 with concurrent
bacterema, 1,500 cases of hypertension, 150 cases of end stage renal
disease, 2,000 cases of penile cancer, 200,000 cases of phimosis, and
250,000-500,000 cases of balanophimosis" - PROFESSOR BRIAN MORRIS, 30+
years of unbias research on the benefits of circumcision.."Can I just
talk about one other issue I had? I'm almost hesitant to say
this...because I'm not gay...I'm not looking at other guys...but the
whole uncircumcised thing..when they're doing close-ups...It's
just...that's a whole other issue...it's just disgusting!" ehe - BABA
BOOEY (aka Boy Gary Dell'Abate, circumcised I-talian, producer -
Howard Stern (sweet, circumcised Jew) show, commenting on having seen
a recent porn).."A London Times Survey (1996) by Dr. T. Stuttaford
found that among experienced Women & Prostitutes, 90% preferred sex
with circumcised men because it was more hygenic and pleasurable" -
DR. SCHOEN.."The Egg Cream is psychologically the opposite of
circumcision - it pleasurably reaffirms your Jewishness!" ehe - MEL
BROOKS (b. Kaminsky, umpteenth sweet, Jewish NYer).."Be wise,
circumcise!".."Born imperfect, made perfect on the eighth day!".."To
perfect the world (TIKUN OLAM) is in Jewish thought -the obligation of
every human being. Where better to begin by fixing God's goof of
foreskin?".."Life insurance companies should class wearers of a
prepuce under the head of a hazardous risk" - MEDICAL WRITER,
UNKNOWN.."Part of the foreskin they throw away after circumcision, I
believe it is called SCHMUCK" eh - DAVID GALE (Kevin Spacey in The
Life Of David Gale).."Circumcision is like a substantial and well-
secured annuity; every year of life you draw the benefits. Parents
cannot make a better paying investment for their little boys" - DR.
P.C. REMONDINO.."The anti-circumcision craze has developed because
groups of conservative, sensitive, medically misinformed individuals,
some with fanatical emotionalism, have not seen the consequences of a
society where males are not circumcised. While medical prophylactic
measures are readily accepted by our society, surgical prophylaxis is
in danger of being discarded by an overemphasis on the return to the
"natural." The intense pain of natural childbirth is seen as a reward
while the minor discomfort, if any, of circumcision is magnified
beyond reason" - DR.GERALD WEISS
http://tinyurl.com/2tjkbc (Most Common Medical procedures in the US -
Circumcision #3)
http://tinyurl.com/bf8gs (Circumcision provides a 2-8 protective fold
against HIV)
http://tinyurl.com/4dr94 (Neonatal Circumcision: A Current Appraisal -
Dr. Thomas E. Wiswell, FAAP)
http://www.circinfo.net (Benefits of circumcision - Prof. Brian Morris
- 30+ years of unbias research on the benefits of circumcision)
http://tinyurl.com/6d9e7 (Circumcision - a lifetime of medical
benefits: Women's Sexual Penile Preference, Sexual Activity, Psych
Effect)
Darrin
Moment':
> "Charmin" <m...@pg.com> wrote in message
> > "Ad-hominem attack is the refuge of unintelligent and immature
> > people that can't refute an opinion with logic or facts, so
> > they resort to childishly attacking the person that holds the opinion.>
> So? There is no ad-hominem attack in what I've said. Are you perhaps a bit
> oversensitive, as are those that respond to any valid criticism of Israel of
> Jews with strident screams of ANTISEMITE! ANTISEMITE!>>
FF, if it walks and talks like a duck, it's usually a duck! And you
have been quacking for quite some time now!ehe Yes, when you choose to
single out Jews above all others, then it becomes anti-Semitism. When
you conveniently overlook historical facts, then it becomes anti-
Semitism. When you criticize Israel, yet overlook the umpteenth
maiming & murdering of innocent Israeli civilians, then it becomes
anti-Semitism! There is no legitimate reason for being anti-Israel,
other than Jew-hating.
There should be no question in anyone's mind that you are a deranged
anti-Semite. One who shall always be immune to refutation from either
facts or logic. You have chosen to live in hatred, without regard to
either facts or logic! Last I checked, racially tolerant people do not
say: "But of course, among Zionist fanatics and Jewish extremists like
you, the "chosen people" should be above the law, right? No wonder
there is antisemitism - people like you bring it on yourselves with
your arrogant, elitist attitudes." This is just one of many beauts
from you! Then when someone points out your racist insanity, you
respond with, "...but I'm not an anti-Semite!" DOH!
BTW, Zionism is not racism. Anti-Zionism is anti-Semitism! The
simplest definition of Zionism: "an international movement orig. for
the establishment of a Jewish national or religious community in
Palestine and later for the support of modern Israel." FF, now go take
your meds! -D, NYC "When the historian visits Hebron today, he asks
himself: Where are all those peoples which once held the place? Where
are the Canaanites? Where are the Edomites? Where are the ancient
Hellenes and the Romans, the Byzantines, the Franks, the Mameluks and
the Ottomans? They have vanished into time, irrevocably. But the Jews
are still in Hebron" - PAUL JOHNSON, British Historian.."The Jews, a
people who have survived the deaths of many empires that tried to
destroy them - including but not limited to the Egyptians, Romans,
Babylonians, Persians - have only one homeland, Israel, continuously
occupied by them for 4,000 years and never a nation-state belonging to
any others" - JOSEPH FARRAH, Arab-American journalist.."The
Palestinians want their own country. There's just one thing about
that: There are no Palestinians. It's a made up word. Israel was
called Palestine for two thousand years. Like "Wiccan," "Palestinian"
sounds ancient but is really a modern invention. Before the Israelis
won the land in war, Gaza was owned by Egypt, and there were no
"Palestinians" then, and the West Bank was owned by Jordan, and there
were no "Palestinians" then. As soon as the Jews took over and started
growing oranges as big as basketballs, what do you know, say hello to
the "Palestinians," weeping for their deep bond with their lost "land"
and "nation." Chew this around and spit it out: Five hundred million
Arabs; five million Jews. Think of all the Arab countries as a
football field, and Israel as a pack of matches sitting in the middle
of it. And now these same folks swear that if Israel gives them half
of that pack of matches, everyone will be pals. Really? Wow, what neat
news. Hey, but what about the string of wars to obliterate the tiny
country and the constant din of rabid blood oaths to drive every Jew
into the sea? Oh, that? We were just kidding. So for the sake of
honesty, let's not use the word "Palestinian" any more to describe
these delightful folks, who dance for joy at our deaths until someone
points out they're being taped. Instead, let's call them what they
are: "Other Arabs Accomplish Anything In Life And Would Rather Wrap
Themselves In The Seductive Melodrama Of Eternal Struggle And Death"
eh - LARRY MILLER (sweet Jew, comedian/actor/pundit, excerpt from
"Whoever So Blesses Them").."Restoring the Jews to their homeland is a
noble dream shared by many Americans" - ABRAHAM LINCOLN (16th US
President, 1861-1865).."It must be understood that Jews, who for two
thousand years were dispersed among the nations of the world decided
to return to the land of their ancestors. This is their right" - POPE
JOHN PAUL VI.."Because I'm a Jew, of course, but more than that,
because I'm a human being, and I care about what goes on in the world.
I think the whole world must be concerned with Israel - this country
is the hope of the future. It combines the wisdom of the old and the
energy of the young. If Israel goes, the whole free world goes" -
SHELLEY WINTERS (b. Shirley Schrift, sweet Jew, raised in NYC, When
asked why she devoted so much effort raising funds for Israel. Quoted
in Elinor & Robert Slater's Great Jewish Women, 1994)
Darrin
> "mcs" <mcsantpolllut...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>
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>
>
>
>
>
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> > <cart...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> >news:mm5nu31d565oionem...@4ax.com...
> >> On Wed, 26 Mar 2008 02:36:20 GMT, "mcs" <mcsantpollut...@yahoo.com>
> >> wrote:
>
> >>>can you tell me how many jewish programs are on tv every sunday? What
> >>>percent are we made to endure by jewish control? I don't see any (thats
> >>>none
> >>>on my 40 tv stations in my city). When I go to a funeral I hardly ever
> >>>see
> >>>any police office lead the way. I see many police head and detail for
> >>>other
> >>>funerals. When I go to religious schools thru out my region I see many
> >>>cops
> >>>at other religious schools and I see none at most Jewish schools. The
> >>>power
> >>>of the jews to control the fireworks is what worries you? wow
>
> >> Why don't you get off your paranoid anti-semitic high horse you top
> >> posting asswipe and try hard to stick to the point?
>
> > stick to the point? Talking to anti semetic people is difficult to stick
> > to a point. , because you only see one side. �Objective rational reasoning
> > does not make your insecurity any better. Yes the jews control the
> > fireworks . Please sort out all the politicians and crimes by religion.
> > Like that guy arrested for shooting on the highway today. he was another
> > jew.. I need to know Harry>
> A person is "antisemitic" for factually exposing special priveleges granted
> to the Jewish community that are denied to all other New Yorkers??
You're not just "any person," you're "a person" who has "a long
history of Jew-bashing." Almost every one of your posts has an anti-
Jewish agenda. The proof is out there, FF! All one has to do is Google
your collective insanity. -D, NYC "All I know is I am the Goddamn
Mayor of The Goddamn City of New York. The second most important
elective office in the entire country" - AL THE MAYOR, portayed by Lee
Wallace (b. Bklyn, sweet Jew) in THE TAKING OF PELHAM 1 2 3.."More
Jews work in The Empire State Building than live in the states of
North Dakota & South Dakota combined" - THE JEWISH BOOK OF LISTS BY
JOEL SAMBERG.."In 1761, the first Jewish holiday prayer book in
America is printed and published in New York" - IBID.."In 1660, Asser
Levy purchases property in Bruecklen (Brooklyn) and also becomes the
first Kosher butcher in the colonies" - IBID.."On July 9, 1776 the
Declaration of Independence was read aloud to General Washington's
troops in New York" - LITTLE BIG BOOK OF NEW YORK.."Most famous
theatrical caricaturist in history, a line king of the first order.
His brilliant and respectful works, with their hidden Ninas (he
frequently puts the name of his daughter within his drawings), have
been part of the New York Times Arts & Leisure section for years. A
gold medal recipient of the National Society of Arts and Letters, his
work is also represented at the Metropolitan Museum of Art in New
York, The Whitney Museum of Modern Art, The Brooklyn Museum, and other
top artistic venues" - AL HIRSCHFELD (umpteenth sweet, Jewish NYC-
raised), excerpt from The Jewish Book of Lists By Joel Samberg.."The
Jew is the emblem of eternity. He who neither slaughter nor torture of
thousands of years could destroy, he who neither fire, nor sword, nor
Inquisition was able to wipe off the face of the earth. He who was the
first to produce the Oracles of God. He who has been for so long the
Guardian of Prophecy and has transmitted it to the rest of the world.
Such a nation cannot be destroyed. The Jew is as everlasting as
Eternity itself" - LEO TOLSTOY.."Imagine a world without New York City
- the terrorists already have" - ROBERT F. KENNEDY JR.."New York Jewry
has fulfilled completely the mandate the Dutch West Indies Company set
out for Jews here 350 years ago: "not to become a burden...but be
supported by their own nation." New York now is a leading voice of the
Jewish international community" -LEADER OF WORLD JEWRY, excerpt from
JEWISH NY: NOTABLE NEIGHBORHOODS & MEMORABLE MOMENTS BY IRA WOLFMAN
>They> should be allowed to violate the law with no police action taken, while no
> one else is? I'm not saying that they should be denied the privelege of
> using fireworks - I'm saying that if they can. all should be able to. But of
> course, among Zionist fanatics and Jewish extremists like you, the "chosen
> people" should be above the law, right? No wonder there is antisemitism -
> people like you bring it on yourselves with your arrogant, elitist
> attitudes. It appears to be YOU that is the bigot. You and your beloved
> mayors past and present, that is.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -
aa...@gmail.com
wrote:
>On Mar 29, 2:56?pm, Slim dropped down from his jealous Gentile (aka
>anti-Semite) tree, and fingerpainted the following lies:
>
>
>> On 2008-03-29 10:11:26 -0400, Charmin <m...@pg.com> said:
>> > Slim wrote:
>
> > >> And there are Rebbe's who suck the penis' of the little boys
>they just
>> >> mutilated and infect them with Herpes.
>
>> > And those rabbis are idiots.>
>
>> For what? The multilation of babies or sucking the penis' of babies?>>
>
>You're a regular Einstein (take a guess what his religion and
>circumcision status was), eh?ehe Eloquent too! eh The most common cut
>in all of medicine is mutilation? LOL! FYI: Circumcision occurs more
>frequently than tooth extraction! In the US, over 60% of newborns
>(regardless of ethnicity) are circumcised, aka Routine Infant
>Circumcision.
>
>Since you were obviously graced with such brooding intellect, you must
>have conveniently overlooked the fact that Jews (1/4 of 1% of the
>world's population) comprise the least % of any ethnic group who
>circumcise! DOH! IOW, most of the world's circumcised are Gentiles,
>non-Jews. Once again, anti-circ is really anti-Jew. Thanks for
>playing, dip!
>
Diagnosis: paranoid with grotesque physical deformity while suffering
anti-social behaviour.
Darrin
> Diagnosis: paranoid with grotesque physical deformity while suffering> anti-social behaviour.- >
Coney Island ("America's First Amusement Park") fun house mirror, say
hello to Aaron! eh Now why on earth would you add that annoying vowel
to "behavior," unless you weren't a Foreskinstein shlepping, rotten
choppered wanker?ehe Are you an Englishman in New York?eh Once again,
praise the Jews, and watch the jealous Gentiles (aka anti-Semites)
come a runnin'! ehe -D, NYC "Yes, I am a Jew, and when the ancestors
of the right honorable gentleman were brutal savages in an unknown
island, mine were priests in the Temple of Solomon" - BENJAMIN
DISRAELI, 1804-1881, first Jewish Prime Minister of England,
responding to Irish Roman Catholic leader Daniel O' Connell, in the
House of Commons, who cast aspersions on his Jewish ancestry.."Above
all this {medieval persecution} the genius of that wonderful people
rose supreme. While those around them were grovelling in the darkness
of besotted ignorance..the Jews were still pursuing the path of
knowledge, amassing learning, and stimulating progress with the same
unflinching constancy that they manifested in their faith" - WILLIAM
LECKY, Historian (from his Spirit of Rationalism in Europe,
1868).."Perhaps my own personal early background, a thoroughly anti-
Semitic culture, enables me to perceive more clearly than most certain
realities of Jewish-Gentile relations in the US. Anti-Semites, whether
of the truly vicious or almost casual type, perceive Jews as
inferior...On the contrary, they are superior" - STEVE ALLEN (from his
introduction to Tim Boxer's Jewish Celebrity Hall of Fame, 1987.."In
1983 alone, Jewish-American scientists received 27% of the Nobel
prizes awarded in their disciplines. In proportion to their population
number (2%), the number of Jews in medicine exceeded 230%, those in
psychiatry neared 480%, and those in mathematics approached 240%" -
JEWISH CONTRIBUTIONS TO THE AMERICAN WAY OF LIFE By Asher B. Etkes &
Saul Stadtmauer.."If we were forced to choose just one, there would be
no way to deny that Judaism is the most important intellectual
development in human history" - DAVID GELERTNER, Yale University
Professor.."Five Jewish men influenced the history of Western
civilization: Moses said the law is everything. Jesus said love is
everything. Marx said capital is everything. Freud said sex is
everything. Einstein said everything is relative" ehe.."Western
civilization is undeniably a 'Jewified' civilization, however
offensive the word may be to our ears because of the ugly use made of
it by anti-Semites - anti-Semites believed that Jews were everywhere,
and in a sense they were almost everywhere that counted in modern
society" - ALBERT LINDEMANN in Esau's Tears: Modern anti-Semitism and
the Rise of the Jews.."I don't drink coffee I take tea my dear..I like
my toast done on one side..And you can hear it in my accent when I
talk, I'm an Englishman in New York" - STING.."New York is the only
real city-city" - TRUMAN CAPOTE.."You know, the more they knock New
York, the bigger it gets!" - WILL ROGERS.."More history happened in
New York than in any other place in the nation" - KENNETH T. JACKSON,
Columbia University Professor, Encyclopedia of New York.."I moved into
my apartment Sept. 10. In one day I saw the worst but also the best of
New York. Its people are glorious, marvelous. The best. First-run
movies? We got it. Tops in theater? We got it. Ballet, opera, circus,
concerts. More culture here, more in the way of arts than anywhere in
the world. New York is the Athens of today" - MATT DAMON.."If I'd
lived in Roman times, I'd
have lived in Rome. Where else? Today America is the Roman Empire and
New York is Rome itself" - JOHN LENNON (one of NY's most famous
adoptive sons, Strawberry Fields Memorial, Central Park - world's most
famous recreational park).."New York City has the zoo, aquarium,
museums, fashion center, diamond center, U.N., Statue of Liberty; and
it's got the Yanks and the Mets; and it's got every kind of food but
lousy; and it's the home of the one-namers like Harrison, Dustin,
Calvin, Katie, Rosie, Bianca, Bernadette, Matt, Bryant, Vanessa,
Julia, Halle, Gwyneth, Donald, Ivana, Puffy" - CINDY ADAMS (umpteenth
sweet NYer, PAGE 6, NY POST - oldest, continuously published newspaper
in America; founded by one of our founding fathers, Alexander
Hamilton.."'Cause everyone's your friend in New York City..And
everything looks beautiful when you're young and pretty..The streets
are paved with diamonds and there's just so much to see..But the best
thing about New York City is you and me..Statue of Liberty, Staten
Island Ferry, Co-op City, Katz's and Tiffany's..Central Park, Brooklyn
Bridge, The Empire State where Dylan lived..Coney Island and Times
Square, Rockefeller Center..Wish I was there" - THEY MIGHT BE
GIANTS.."New York City is a friendly old town, from Washington Heights
to Harlem on down" - BOB DYLAN (b. Zimmerman, sweet Jew, "Voice of a
Generation," Top 100 selling artist of all-time)
Freedom Fighter
news:e2760707-9ed6-47bd...@k13g2000hse.googlegroups.com...
On Apr 1, 5:25?pm, "Freedom Fighter" fingerpainted another 'Hallmark
Moment':
> "Charmin" <m...@pg.com> wrote in message
> > "Ad-hominem attack is the refuge of unintelligent and immature
> > people that can't refute an opinion with logic or facts, so
> > they resort to childishly attacking the person that holds the opinion.>
> So? There is no ad-hominem attack in what I've said. Are you perhaps a bit
> oversensitive, as are those that respond to any valid criticism of Israel
> of
> Jews with strident screams of ANTISEMITE! ANTISEMITE!>>
FF, if it walks and talks like a duck, it's usually a duck! And you
have been quacking for quite some time now!ehe Yes, when you choose to
single out Jews above all others, then it becomes anti-Semitism. When
you conveniently overlook historical facts, then it becomes anti-
Semitism. When you criticize Israel, yet overlook the umpteenth
maiming & murdering of innocent Israeli civilians, then it becomes
anti-Semitism! There is no legitimate reason for being anti-Israel,
other than Jew-hating.
--
I "singled out" Jews in this matter because it is a FACT that they are being
granted a special, above-the-law privelege that no other New Yorkers are
being granted. If some other ethnic group were doing this, I would have
singled them out just the same. It is in your mind alone that I am
"antisemitic" for doing this. And one need not be a "Jew hater" to state a
valid criticism of Israel or of its undue influence on American foreign
policy, which has been truly harmful to Americans and American interests.
--
There should be no question in anyone's mind that you are a deranged
anti-Semite. One who shall always be immune to refutation from either
facts or logic. You have chosen to live in hatred, without regard to
either facts or logic! Last I checked, racially tolerant people do not
say: "But of course, among Zionist fanatics and Jewish extremists like
you, the "chosen people" should be above the law, right? No wonder
there is antisemitism - people like you bring it on yourselves with
your arrogant, elitist attitudes." This is just one of many beauts
from you! Then when someone points out your racist insanity, you
respond with, "...but I'm not an anti-Semite!" DOH!
---
A "deranged anti-Semite?" It is hard to tell whether or not to take you
seriously here, as you speak like a fanatic out of touch with reality. I
stand by may statement as you quoted it above.
---
BTW, Zionism is not racism. Anti-Zionism is anti-Semitism! The
simplest definition of Zionism: "an international movement orig. for
the establishment of a Jewish national or religious community in
Palestine and later for the support of modern Israel."
---
Many of the so-called enemies of Zionism in the middle-east are technically
Semites themselves - I believe the category includes many people of Arabian
ancestry. The fanatical Zionists I refer to are those that would deny the
non-Jewish Palestinians the right to their own state, and these are as bad
as those that would deny the Jews the same right. Apparently though, from
what you've said previously, you believe it is OK for Jews to behave above
the laws that all others must abide by. As I said, you are arrogant and
elitist!
I'll waste no further time with you. Your attitudes clearly show why there
is a growing anti-Jewish sentiment in America. It is not what you are so
quick to label "antisemitism," it is the consequence of collective arrogance
and elitism. If your greatest allegiance is to Israel, not America, then
MOVE TO ISRAEL AND FIGHT YOUR OWN BLOODY WARS! Americans owe you NOTHING,
and are FED UP with being used by you!
Freedom Fighter
On Mar 28, 4:12?pm, "Freedom Fighter" <libe...@once.net> wrote:
> "mcs" <mcsantpolllut...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>
> news:Jq8Hj.4$ta2.1@trndny05...
>
> > <cart...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> >news:mm5nu31d565oionem...@4ax.com...
> >> On Wed, 26 Mar 2008 02:36:20 GMT, "mcs" <mcsantpollut...@yahoo.com>
> >> wrote:
>
> >>>can you tell me how many jewish programs are on tv every sunday? What
> >>>percent are we made to endure by jewish control? I don't see any (thats
> >>>none
> >>>on my 40 tv stations in my city). When I go to a funeral I hardly ever
> >>>see
> >>>any police office lead the way. I see many police head and detail for
> >>>other
> >>>funerals. When I go to religious schools thru out my region I see many
> >>>cops
> >>>at other religious schools and I see none at most Jewish schools. The
> >>>power
> >>>of the jews to control the fireworks is what worries you? wow
> >>>"Freedom Fighter" <libe...@once.net> wrote in message
>
> >> Why don't you get off your paranoid anti-semitic high horse you top
> >> posting asswipe and try hard to stick to the point?
>
> > stick to the point? Talking to anti semetic people is difficult to stick
> > does not make your insecurity any better. Yes the jews control the
> > fireworks . Please sort out all the politicians and crimes by religion.
> > Like that guy arrested for shooting on the highway today. he was another
> > jew.. I need to know Harry>
> A person is "antisemitic" for factually exposing special priveleges
> granted
> to the Jewish community that are denied to all other New Yorkers??
You're not just "any person," you're "a person" who has "a long
history of Jew-bashing." Almost every one of your posts has an anti-
Jewish agenda. The proof is out there, FF! All one has to do is Google
your collective insanity. -D, NYC "
In your extremism, you are approaching the point of delusion and paranoia.
QUOTE my statements that constitute "a long history of Jew-bashing."
>They> should be allowed to violate the law with no police action taken,
>while no
> one else is? I'm not saying that they should be denied the privelege of
> using fireworks - I'm saying that if they can. all should be able to. But
> of
> course, among Zionist fanatics and Jewish extremists like you, the "chosen
> people" should be above the law, right? No wonder there is antisemitism -
> people like you bring it on yourselves with your arrogant, elitist
> attitudes. It appears to be YOU that is the bigot. You and your beloved
> mayors past and present, that is"
I stand by that statement. It is not Jew-bashing, but merely deserved
criticism of such extremists as yourself that consider themselves above the
law.
FF
Darrin
> "Darrin" <darrin...@aol.com> wrote in message
Here's just a taste of your deluded ramblings:
"I am serious too. You prove that Jews harbor the very sort of
vicious
hatreds that cost their people millions of lives under the Nazis.
Some
people never learn. There are none more hateful than the descendants
of
victims of hate. This is the truth, and you are the proof."
"Perhaps if the Jewish community worldwide were a bit more MODEST, and
GRATEFUL to others, particularly Americans, for the support and
tolerance they HAVE received, they would not be so disliked."
"One cannot criticize or even question the integrity of Israel or Jews
without being labelled an "anti-Semite." It's just like the minority
member arrested for perpetrating a crime screaming RACISM! Face up to
the facts that there ARE Jewish criminals and Zionist terrorists, and
that they should not be above justice just as any other such criminals
and terrorists should not be above justice."
"The greatest enemy of Jews in America is not small extremist hate
groups, but their own priorities and conduct that places the interests
of Israel. as secondary to those of America. Do you love Israel, or
any other nation, above America - the country you now live in? Then
WHY AREN'T YOU LIVING IN ISRAEL? Move to the land of your greatest
allegiance, join the armed forces, and FIGHT YOUR OWN BLOODY
BATTLES!"
"No wonder that Zionist Jews are screaming in ever more strident
voices about what they call "antisemitism" today. They need to learn
that what comes around goes around, and as they love it more than
America, Israel, not America, is where they belong."
"I agree. As there are far more Zionist fanatics here than Muslim
ones, their deportation should begin immediately."
"Giuliani's blatant favoritism towards New York's influential Jewish/
Zionist
population was based purely on self-interest. His arrogant
grandstanding in
the middle east, deliberately snubbing and offending Israel's
opponents in
the region, was in fact among the causes of the 9/11 attacks, which
Giuliani
then proceeded to capitalize on politically to a degree nothing less
than
obscene."
"I have observed this in far more than one Jewish person, and it is
the most fanatical of Zionists living in America that best exemplify
this. Just hint that they helped to motivate the 9/11 attacks and
you'll see hatred as you've never seen it before. Hysterical screams
of ANTI-SEMITE! are the least you can expect. Better have a
bodyguard."
"Nothing new here; they've (Russian-Jews) been flooding New York City
for about two decades now, without a peep from many that oppose the
immigration of non-whites and are now up in arms over the present
Mexican and middle-eastern influx. One such bigot once told me - "but
they're Jewish, they're saving the neighborhood." The meaning of this
was of course that they are WHITE, and therefore preferable as local
residents to the blacks and hispanics that would supposedly ruin the
neighborhood. Landlords welcomed them as an excuse to deny apartments
to non-whites, and because they had relatively little knowledge of the
housing laws and thus could be easily overcharged and cheated."
"I am neither for nor against Judaism, and I am if anything anti-
Zionist"
"I was born to Jewish parents. As I have FREE WILL, and America is a
relatively free country, I have freely CHOSEN not to follow the
Jewish
religion or culture. That does NOT mean that I "hate" these."
"Read it again. I said ZIONIST FANATICS. I DID NOT say "Jews."
Are you saying that ALL Jews are Zionist fanatics?
If that were true, I WOULD have said Jews!"
"What further proof does one need of this fact than that Bullshit Bush
is
supported by New York's autocratic, racist ex-mayor, Tyrant
Ghouliani?
And in a strange turn of events, the Zionists, mostly descendents of
Holocaust survivors and victims, SUPPORT these fascists!"
"I've got news for you, and this comes from a New Yorker that has seen
it all for many, many years. There are CRIMINALS among these Hassidim
and secular Jews too! Even VIOLENT ones. Do you think the Russian mob
in Brooklyn is Christian? The big difference is that the Jewish
criminals get PREFERENTIAL TREATMENT from the likes of Mayor Bloomberg
and especially from his Nazi-in-reverse predecessor, Adolf Ghouliani!
Next you'll be shouting about sending the "black hoodlums" back to
Africa. Well, how about "back to Israel!" for those whose greatest
allegiance is to that country, even though they live in America?"
Darrin
On Apr 4, 3:56�pm, "Freedom Fighter" <libe...@once.net> wrote:
<<BTW, Zionism is not racism. Anti-Zionism is anti-Semitism! The
simplest definition of Zionism: "an international movement orig. for
the establishment of a Jewish national or religious community in
Palestine and later for the support of modern Israel." >>
<<Many of the so-called enemies of Zionism in the middle-east are
technically
Semites themselves - I believe the category includes many people of
Arabian
ancestry. The fanatical Zionists I refer to are those that would deny
the
non-Jewish Palestinians the right to their own state, and these are as
bad
<<as those that would deny the Jews the same right. Apparently though,
from
what you've said previously, you believe it is OK for Jews to behave
above
the laws that all others must abide by. As I said, you are arrogant
and
elitist! <<I'll waste no further time with you. Your attitudes clearly
show why there
<<is a growing anti-Jewish sentiment in America. It is not what you
are so
<<quick to label "antisemitism," it is the consequence of collective
arrogance
<<and elitism.>> If your greatest allegiance is to Israel, not
America, then> MOVE TO ISRAEL AND FIGHT YOUR OWN BLOODY WARS!
Americans owe you NOTHING,> and are FED UP with being used by you!>>
FF, you continue to prove that anti-Semitism is a sociopathic disease!
You can't have your cake and eat it too! If you want to dwell in anti-
Semitic blather, be prepared to receive discourse. Take your medicine
like a man!! If you don't want to be labelled accordingly, don't give
anyone an excuse to do so! It's that simple! Not to you, since you're
a raving sociopath who suffers from a deep-seated inferiority-complex.
FYI to dunderhead: America gave the Jews more than any other country
in the world had ever given before. And in giving, it in turn was
blessed as no other nation on earth the talents of a people waiting
only for the freedom and the opportunity to express themselves. Name a
field and there were Jews in the forefront: medicine and law,
entertainment and literature, science and the arts, politics and law,
physics and philosophy, sports and humor - the list goes on and on,
and the books detailing the contributions of Jewish legendary figures
of American life run into the tens of thousands. To do some justice to
the incredible achievements of 2% of the population of the United
States to its culture and intellectual vitality, the United States of
America embraced a people that would contribute greatly to its
becoming the most blessed and most powerful country on earth!! -D, NYC
"Here is a great body of our Jewish citizens from whom have sprung men
of genius in every walk of our varied life; men who have conceived of
its ideals with singular clearness; and led enterprises with sprit &
sagacity...They are not Jews in America, they are American citizens" -
WOODROW WILSON (28th US President, 1913-1921).."Hebraic mortar
cemented the foundations of American Democracy" - WILLIAM LECKY,
Historian.."The modern United States, in spite of itself, IS the
United States in part because of its Jewish blood" - JOE MCCAIN
(author, lecturer, historian, brother of Senator John McCain, excerpt
from "The Jews Will Not Go Quietly Again!").."The pursuit of knowledge
for its own sake, an almost fanatical love of justice, and the desire
for personal independence - these are the features of Jewish tradition
that make me thank my stars that I belong to it" - ALBERT
EINSTEIN.."We must study in greater detail than their neighbors, these
numerically and geographically insignificant Jews, who gave to the
world one of its greatest literatures, two of its most influential
religions and so many of its profoundest men" - WILL DURANT (The Story
Of Civilization, Volume I).."Certainly, the world without the Jews
would have been a radically different place. Humanity might have
eventually stumbled upon all the Jewish insights. But we cannot be
sure. All the great conceptual discoveries of the human intellect seem
obvious and inescapable once they had been revealed, but it requires a
special genius to formulate them for the first time. The Jews had this
gift. To them we owe the idea of equality before the law, both divine
and human; of the sanctity of life and the dignity of human person; of
the individual conscience and so a personal redemption; of collective
conscience and so of social responsibility; of peace as an abstract
ideal and love as the foundation of justice, and many other items
which constitute the basic moral furniture of the human mind. Without
Jews it might have been a much emptier place" - PAUL JOHNSON,
Historian, "A History of Jews & A History of Christianity.."It's anti-
Semitic to point out that Jews are smarter than Gentiles. Gimme a
break. Who doesn't know that Jews are smarter than Gentiles? Newsweek
(8/21/00) gives the Jewish population of the U.S. at two percent. Does
anybody think that the number of Jewish lawyers, college professors,
successful businessmen, mathematicians, is two percent? Anybody? How
can it be offensive to say something so dazzlingly obvious? If I were
Jewish, I'd be flattered to hear this. For the record, I consider
myself a philosemite. It has been truly said (by Paul Johnson in his
History of the Jews) that if you take almost anything - science, law,
philosophy, literature, medicine, music - and track it back to its
roots, you will find Jews there, or at least meet an awful lot of them
along the way. I am a big fan of Western Civilization: and I know -
again, who doesn't know? - that the debt we Gentiles owe to the Jews
is colossal, and can never be repaid. No doubt I shall now get letters
explaining to me that this opinion, too, is "anti-Semitic". Another
thing you learn writing for the public is that anything whatsoever
that you say about Jews or Jewishness is "anti-Semitic" to somebody
out there" - JOHN DERBYSHIRE, National Review - "10 Things You Can't
Say In America
Darrin
>
> news:e2760707-9ed6-47bd...@k13g2000hse.googlegroups.com...
> On Apr 1, 5:25?pm, "Freedom Fighter" fingerpainted another 'Hallmark
> Moment':
>
> > "Charmin" <m...@pg.com> wrote in message
> > > "Ad-hominem attack is the refuge of unintelligent and immature
> > > people that can't refute an opinion with logic or facts, so
> > > they resort to childishly attacking the person that holds the opinion.>
> > So? There is no ad-hominem attack in what I've said. Are you perhaps a bit
> > oversensitive, as are those that respond to any valid criticism of Israel
> > of
> > Jews with strident screams of ANTISEMITE! ANTISEMITE!>>
>
> FF, if it walks and talks like a duck, it's usually a duck! And you
> have been quacking for quite some time now!ehe Yes, when you choose to
> single out Jews above all others, then it becomes anti-Semitism. When
> you conveniently overlook historical facts, then it becomes anti-
> Semitism. When you criticize Israel, yet overlook the umpteenth
> maiming & murdering of innocent Israeli civilians, then it becomes
> anti-Semitism! There is no legitimate reason for being anti-Israel,
> other than Jew-hating.> --
> I "singled out" Jews in this matter because it is a FACT that they are being>>
No, you single-out Jews because you jealously obsess over them, day
and night! If it's not Bloomberg, it's Israel. If it's not fireworks,
it's something else. If it's not Hasidics, it's Zionists. FF, you need
an Elephant's dose of Thorazine to cure what ails you! ehe -D, NYC
"Envy of Jewish talents & brains has moved the Gentiles to behave like
wild beasts toward a people in some respects their superior" - MARK
TWAIN.."To the Jew first - and also to the Gentile" - ROMANS
1:16.."There was once a Jewish pope" - ANACLETUS II.."Because I was a
Jew, I found myself free from any prejudices that limited others in
the use of their intellect, and being a Jew, I was prepared to enter
opposition and to renounce agreement with the 'compact majority'" -DR.
SIGMUND FREUD
Charmin
In other words, you made it up.
> of Boro Park, Midwood, and no doubt other Jewish areas. If you refuse to
> beleive this then don't, but someone else also posted information here
> giving evidence that fireworks are used as part of the Purim celebration
> elsewhere as well as in NYC. My objection is not to their use, but to the
> fact that everyone else in NYC is NOT allowed to use fireworks at any time,
> and that when they do they are subject to police action, but the Jewish
> celebrants of Purim are not. That is SELECTIVE ENFORCEMENT and
> DISCRIMINATION - racial, religious, and cultural!
>
>
>>>But I suppose you consider yourself, and perhaps all Jews, as above the
>>>law that applies to and is enforced against all other Americans. Well if
>>>you do, MOVE YOUR ARROGANT, ELITIST ASS OUT OF AMERICA!
>>
>>"Ad-hominem attack is the refuge of unintelligent and immature
>>people that can't refute an opinion with logic or facts, so
>>they resort to childishly attacking the person that holds the opinion.
>
>
> So? There is no ad-hominem attack in what I've said. Are you perhaps a bit
> oversensitive, as are those that respond to any valid criticism of Israel of
> Jews with strident screams of ANTISEMITE! ANTISEMITE!
>
>
"Ad-hominem attack is the refuge of unintelligent and immature
people that can't refute an opinion with logic or facts, so
they resort to childishly attacking the person that holds the opinion.
Pathetic."
Slim
He happens to be our Mayor.
> it's Israel.
They suck more cash from American Taxpayers than any other country.
> If it's not fireworks,
Which the Jews are allowed to possess and use, but not the Chinese.
> it's something else.
Like constipation pricing.
> If it's not Hasidics, it's Zionists.
Two Fascist groups that are above the law.
fascism |ˈfa sh ˌizəm| (also Fascism)
noun
an authoritarian and nationalistic right-wing system of government and
social organization.
• (in general use) extreme right-wing, authoritarian, or intolerant
views or practice.
Freedom Fighter
DarrinT68 wrote:
Actually, ALL racial, religious, and cultural discrimination is sociopathic.
Unfortunately, you continue to see it where it doesn't necessarily exist. I
suppose you have been conditioned, perhaps brainwashed is a better word, by
a parochial education removed from students of different religious
backgrounds, to consider anyone and everyone that dares to criticize Israel
or Jews as sociopathic.
> You can't have your cake and eat it too! If you want to dwell in anti-
Semitic blather, be prepared to receive discourse. Take your medicine
like a man!! If you don't want to be labelled accordingly, don't give
anyone an excuse to do so! It's that simple! Not to you, since you're
a raving sociopath
See what I mean? All I did was point out the fact that Jews receive special
treatment under the law by being allowed to use fireworks on Purim when no
others in NYC are permitted to do so at any time. I didn't even say Jews
should not be allowed to do so; I said that if they can, everyone should be
able to. In your mind however, that makes me a sociopath!? No, your saying
this merely reflects on your indoctrinated attitudes of arrogance and
elitism.
> who suffers from a deep-seated inferiority-complex. FYI to dunderhead:
Now THAT'S a laugh! I am a highly successful person and very happy with my
life.
> America gave the Jews more than any other country in the world had ever
> given before.
True.
> And in giving, it in turn was
blessed as no other nation on earth the talents of a people waiting
only for the freedom and the opportunity to express themselves. Name a
field and there were Jews in the forefront: medicine and law,
entertainment and literature, science and the arts, politics and law,
physics and philosophy, sports and humor - the list goes on and on,
and the books detailing the contributions of Jewish legendary figures
of American life run into the tens of thousands. To do some justice to
the incredible achievements of 2% of the population of the United
States to its culture and intellectual vitality, the United States of
America embraced a people that would contribute greatly to its
becoming the most blessed and most powerful country on earth!! -D, NYC
Yes, and this is largely due to the Jewish culture putting such a high value
on education. But it does not justify an attitude that Jews should be
granted special priveleges above the law. And let's not overlook the fact
that as with all people, there are evil ones among the Jews too - such as
all the Russian organized criminals in Brighton Beach.
I'm sure you can find hundreds of quotes and words of praise for the Jewish
culture. I'm sure others can find quite the opposite. That is not the point
I've made here however, and I must thank you for proving that I am right
with what you've said in response.
My point is that you, and many others in the group you identify with, have
an ARROGANT, ELITIST attitude that only serves to negate your historic
achievements in the public mind and give strength to those you consider
enemies. In labelling me antisemitic, and even sociopathic, for rightfully
insisting that the law must treat all equally, you have shown yourself to be
seriously out of touch with the American values of fairness and equality for
all.
I rest my case!
Freedom Fighter
Really? You know nothing about me, so just how can you presume to know what
is in my mind, day and night? As I said, you've been indoctrinated, even
brainwashed, into labelling as antisemitic and sociopathic anyone that
doesn't think and do just as you have been told they should think and do.
> If it's not Bloomberg, it's Israel.
I am far more against fascist ex-mayor Giuliani than Bloomberg, and Giuliani
is a Catholic!
If I believe that Israel acts against America's best interests, I will say
so. I have that right in America.
Did you know that some believe that Mossad was part of the 9/11 false-flag
attack conspiracy? I think they are probably right. I suppose that makes me
an "antisemite" and "sociopath," right?
> If it's not fireworks,
it's something else. If it's not Hasidics, it's Zionists. FF, you need
an Elephant's dose of Thorazine to cure what ails you! ehe -D, NYC
Really? Some people believe there is a disproportionate incidence of
"neurosis" and other family and psychological dysfunctions among Jews. I
don't know if this is true or not, but if you call everyone that you
disagree with insane, that reflects somewhat on your own level of
rationality.
> "Envy of Jewish talents & brains has moved the Gentiles to behave like
wild beasts toward a people in some respects their superior" - MARK
TWAIN.."To the Jew first - and also to the Gentile" - ROMANS
1:16.."There was once a Jewish pope" - ANACLETUS II.."Because I was a
Jew, I found myself free from any prejudices that limited others in
the use of their intellect, and being a Jew, I was prepared to enter
opposition and to renounce agreement with the 'compact majority'" -DR.
SIGMUND FREUD
Guess what, Darrin - I come from a Jewish family!
I was a scientific prodigy, and am now a successful engineer. And at the age
of 10, I realized that RELIGION, not just Judiasm but ALL organized
religion, does the human race far more harm than good! I am a happy
agnostic, free of the Hebrew-school attempts at brainwashing me as you
apparently have been brainwashed. So when you chant "let my people go," and
wallow in the legends of how the Jews were once enslaved, realize that the
enslavement of your own mind, which is up to you alone to overcome, has been
forced upon you by your own people!
Darrin
> On 2008-04-04 19:53:55 -0400, Darrin <darrin...@aol.com> said:
> > On Apr 4, 3:56�pm, "Freedom Fighter" <libe...@once.net> wrote:
> >> "Darrin" <darrin...@aol.com> wrote in message
> > it's Israel.>
> They suck more cash from American Taxpayers than any other country.>>
It's called investing in a country that has given back to The US and
the World tenfold! Even without US's investments, Israel (only
Democratic state in the Middle East) still has a higher GDP than a
handful of EU countries. Egypt has received billions as well, and they
still lag behind Israel. IOW, money alone has never equated to success
or intellect. BTW, did you utter a peep when the late Terrorfat was
found to have looted billions from his people? The same billions that
were given to him by the US and other countries! If you and FF applied
the same energies to hating terrorist Arabs, no one would fault you!
If not for Jews, you'd still be chipping away at numbers on granite
and grovelling in the dark ages, shmendrick! Israel (one of the
highest ratio of doctors in the world - 1 to every 450 people) is
responsible for pioneering stem-cell research, and creating and
exporting a great number of technological advances in computers: chat
software, MMAX & Pentium II processors, data compression techniques
that allow images and videos to be transmitted on the internet,
firewall and network security mechanisms that have made the internet a
safer neighborhood, and internet telephony and conferencing
technologies that connect millions of people around the world. Many
microprocessors inside our PCs were designed in Israel, and the basic
technologies behind the flash memories in smart cards were invented in
Israel. Israeli researchers are driving advances in modern algorithms,
cryptography, knowledge sharing, scientific computation, and
compilation, to name just a few fields. It is thus no surprise that
most major companies in the computer field have established research
and development centers in Israel, including Hewlett Packard,
Microsoft (currently being run by sweet Jew, Steve Ballmer -16th
richest man in the world), 3COM, Motorola, Intel, Applied Materials,
Cisco, Lucent, IMB, SAP, Baan, and National Semiconductors. -D, NYC
"This Jewish mathematician is credited as the father of computing -
founding most of the basic features of the modern computer, such as
its central processing unit, memory storage capabilities, and the use
of binary numbers and serial processing - JOHN (JOHANN) VON
NEUMANN.."Well, if you've ever been to New York City, you know what
I'm talking about, they got such pretty little girls in that big town,
make a man wanna jump around and shout" - THE YARDBIRDS.."I can just
see it now: Puerto Rican Jew joins monastery - becomes first
shlemonk!" ehe - MR. KOTTER (Gabriel Kaplan, umpteenth sweet, Jewish
NYer - Welcome Back, Kotter).."It makes me roll my eyes every time one
of our pundits waxes poetic about the great history and culture of the
Muslim Mideast. Unless I'm missing something, the Arabs haven't given
anything to the world since Algebra, and, by the way, thanks a hell of
a lot for that one!" ehe - LARRY MILLER (sweet Jewish comedian/actor/
pundit, Whoever So Blesses Them).."When we moved to Phoenix, I was one
of only five Jewish kids in elementary and high school. There was a
lot of anti-Semitism against me and my sisters. In study hall, kids
used to pitch pennies at me, which would hit my desk and make a large
clatter. It was called 'pitching pennies at the Jew,' and it was very
hurtful" - STEVEN SPIELBERG (2-time Oscar winner, most successful
filmmaker since the advent of film)
Freedom Fighter
The truth hurts? If you could dispassionately view it, you would gain some
insight.
I have personally seen the hatred in the hearts of some Jewish people, no
different than anyone elses' hatreds.
> "Perhaps if the Jewish community worldwide were a bit more MODEST, and
GRATEFUL to others, particularly Americans, for the support and
tolerance they HAVE received, they would not be so disliked."
Likewise true. Arrogance and elitism are distasteful among any people, and
alienate others.
> "One cannot criticize or even question the integrity of Israel or Jews
without being labelled an "anti-Semite." It's just like the minority
member arrested for perpetrating a crime screaming RACISM! Face up to
the facts that there ARE Jewish criminals and Zionist terrorists, and
that they should not be above justice just as any other such criminals
and terrorists should not be above justice."
Again, true. Why can you not see this? No ethnic, religious, or racial group
in the world is free of evils such as crime and terroristic deeds.
> "The greatest enemy of Jews in America is not small extremist hate
groups, but their own priorities and conduct that places the interests
of Israel. as secondary to those of America. Do you love Israel, or
any other nation, above America - the country you now live in? Then
WHY AREN'T YOU LIVING IN ISRAEL? Move to the land of your greatest
allegiance, join the armed forces, and FIGHT YOUR OWN BLOODY
BATTLES!"
I stand by that statement, and it is true.
> "No wonder that Zionist Jews are screaming in ever more strident
voices about what they call "antisemitism" today. They need to learn
that what comes around goes around, and as they love it more than
America, Israel, not America, is where they belong."
So do you have a greater allegiance to America than to Israel or not?
If not, why do you live here?
> "I agree. As there are far more Zionist fanatics here than Muslim
ones, their deportation should begin immediately."
Should their conduct prove injurious and dangerous to the country they
reside in, they should and will be unwelcome in it. That goes for ALL
groups, NOT JUST JEWS.
> "Giuliani's blatant favoritism towards New York's influential Jewish/
Zionist
population was based purely on self-interest. His arrogant
grandstanding in
the middle east, deliberately snubbing and offending Israel's
opponents in
the region, was in fact among the causes of the 9/11 attacks, which
Giuliani
then proceeded to capitalize on politically to a degree nothing less
than obscene."
I said it and it is true.
> "I have observed this in far more than one Jewish person, and it is
the most fanatical of Zionists living in America that best exemplify
this. Just hint that they helped to motivate the 9/11 attacks and
you'll see hatred as you've never seen it before. Hysterical screams
of ANTI-SEMITE! are the least you can expect. Better have a
bodyguard."
Yes, I HAVE observed this. Beyond this, as Israel had so much to gain from
American military intervention in the middle-east, the stories that Mossad
was among the 9/11 conspirators are pretty credible.
> "Nothing new here; they've (Russian-Jews) been flooding New York City
for about two decades now, without a peep from many that oppose the
immigration of non-whites and are now up in arms over the present
Mexican and middle-eastern influx. One such bigot once told me - "but
they're Jewish, they're saving the neighborhood." The meaning of this
was of course that they are WHITE, and therefore preferable as local
residents to the blacks and hispanics that would supposedly ruin the
neighborhood. Landlords welcomed them as an excuse to deny apartments
to non-whites, and because they had relatively little knowledge of the
housing laws and thus could be easily overcharged and cheated."
Again, true.
> "I am neither for nor against Judaism, and I am if anything anti-Zionist"
I am against EXTREMISM - the sort that results in planes flying into
buildings, killing thousands of innocent people.
> "I was born to Jewish parents. As I have FREE WILL, and America is a
relatively free country, I have freely CHOSEN not to follow the
Jewish religion or culture. That does NOT mean that I "hate" these."
Again, true.
> "Read it again. I said ZIONIST FANATICS. I DID NOT say "Jews."
Are you saying that ALL Jews are Zionist fanatics?
If that were true, I WOULD have said Jews!"
True.
> "What further proof does one need of this fact than that Bullshit Bush
is supported by New York's autocratic, racist ex-mayor, Tyrant
Ghouliani? And in a strange turn of events, the Zionists, mostly descendents
of
Holocaust survivors and victims, SUPPORT these fascists!"
True.
> "I've got news for you, and this comes from a New Yorker that has seen
it all for many, many years. There are CRIMINALS among these Hassidim
and secular Jews too! Even VIOLENT ones. Do you think the Russian mob
in Brooklyn is Christian? The big difference is that the Jewish
criminals get PREFERENTIAL TREATMENT from the likes of Mayor Bloomberg
and especially from his Nazi-in-reverse predecessor, Adolf Ghouliani!
Next you'll be shouting about sending the "black hoodlums" back to
Africa. Well, how about "back to Israel!" for those whose greatest
allegiance is to that country, even though they live in America?"
Again, true. How can you overlook the criminality of some Jews, and act as
if it does not exist? There is crime among ALL people! It is simply an
arrogant, elitist attitude to claim that one's own bretheren are so far
above everyone else that criminality and disobedience of the law among them
is acceptable, while those laws should be enforced against all others.
Darrin
I know one thing: "Zionist" is not part of the everday vocabulary of
sane individuals. Let alone those who claim not to be anti-Semitic!!! -
D, NYC "You declare, my friend, that you do not hate the Jews, you are
merely 'anti-Zionist.' And I say, let the truth ring forth from the
high mountain tops, let it echo through the valleys of God's green
earth: When people criticize Zionism, they mean Jews - this is God's
own truth... All men of good will exult in the fulfillment of God's
promise, that his People should return in joy to rebuild their
plundered land. This is Zionism, nothing more, nothing less...And what
is anti-Zionist? It is the denial to the Jewish people of a
fundamental right that we justly claim for the people of Africa and
freely accord all other nations of the Globe. It is discrimination
against Jews, my friend, because they are Jews. In short, it is anti-
Semitism...Let my words echo in the depths of your soul: When people
criticize Zionism, they mean Jews - make no mistake about it" - MARTIN
LUTHER KING JR.."Prior to and leading up to Nazi Germany, German-Jews
comprised 1% of Germany's population, yet constituted 16% of its
practicing lawyers, 10% of its doctors and dentists, 17% of its
bankers. In the commercial community, Jews accounted for 11% of the
personnel in real-estate brokerage, 25% in retailing, 30% in the
clothing trade, and 70% in department stores" - GERMANY WITHOUT JEWS
By Bernt Englemann.."Take away the Jews - and Germany is destitute" -
JAMES W. GERARD, former US Ambassador to Germany, excerpt from his
"Four Years In Germany," 1917
Charmin
Freedom Fighter wrote:
> "Darrin" <darr...@aol.com> wrote in message
> news:52a87550-7410-47b5...@d45g2000hsc.googlegroups.com...
>>No, you single-out Jews because you jealously obsess over them, day
>
> and night!
>
> Really? You know nothing about me, so just how can you presume to know what
> is in my mind, day and night? As I said, you've been indoctrinated, even
> brainwashed, into labelling as antisemitic and sociopathic anyone that
> doesn't think and do just as you have been told they should think and do.
You wrote that, "Hitler was said to have helped with an overpopulation
problem."
http://groups.google.com/group/nyc.politics/msg/46e387429ea49901?
aa...@gmail.com
narcissistic self love- a man who loves to suck his own dick, but you
knew that.
Freedom Fighter
The mere use of the word "Zionist" indicates that one is not sane??
Are you serious?
> D, NYC "You declare, my friend, that you do not hate the Jews, you are
merely 'anti-Zionist.' And I say, let the truth ring forth from the
high mountain tops, let it echo through the valleys of God's green
earth:
To a free-thinking person, all the pseudo-biblical phrasing in the world
does not lend credibility to what follows, but go on -
> When people criticize Zionism, they mean Jews - this is God's
own truth... All men of good will exult in the fulfillment of God's
promise, that his People should return in joy to rebuild their
plundered land. This is Zionism, nothing more, nothing less...And what
is anti-Zionist? It is the denial to the Jewish people of a
fundamental right that we justly claim for the people of Africa and
freely accord all other nations of the Globe. It is discrimination
against Jews, my friend, because they are Jews. In short, it is anti-
Semitism...Let my words echo in the depths of your soul: When people
criticize Zionism, they mean Jews - make no mistake about it" - MARTIN
LUTHER KING JR..
Are you claiming that Martin Luther King Jr. said that?
Where we probably find disagreement is in the DEFINITION of Zionism. Perhaps
I have used the word carelessly, but never maliciously. I have said, "all
Zionists are not Jews, and all Jews are not Zionists." From the above, you
apparently consider Zionists to be exclusively Jews.
> "Prior to and leading up to Nazi Germany, German-Jews
comprised 1% of Germany's population, yet constituted 16% of its
practicing lawyers, 10% of its doctors and dentists, 17% of its
bankers. In the commercial community, Jews accounted for 11% of the
personnel in real-estate brokerage, 25% in retailing, 30% in the
clothing trade, and 70% in department stores" - GERMANY WITHOUT JEWS
By Bernt Englemann.."Take away the Jews - and Germany is destitute" -
JAMES W. GERARD, former US Ambassador to Germany, excerpt from his
"Four Years In Germany," 1917
It is praiseworthy that Jews have been so successful, but that DOES NOT
justify special priveleges that place them above the laws that all other
citizens must follow. Not in America, at least. If it is so in Israel, those
that consider themselves among an elite few that should be above the law
should live there.
Freedom Fighter
------
Your above "Hitler" quote was TAKEN OUT OF CONTEXT, WITH THE DELIBERATE
INTENT TO MISLEAD! Did you know that doing this constitutes LIBEL? Not
very bright, are you?
Below is the entire thread from which you took the quote. As all can see, it
was a sarcastic statement of condemnation of Hitler, and by extention,
Giuliani.
------
"Charmin" <m...@pg.com> wrote in message news:Q0n5j.2259$UG1.232@trnddc01...
> Freedom Fighter wrote:
>> "Charmin" <m...@pg.com> wrote in message
>> news:nTj5j.4982$vB.4345@trnddc05...
>>>Freedom Fighter wrote:
>>>>Rudy Giuliani had become mayor of New York City on a campaign that
>>>>constructed a new scapegoat for all of America's crime problems: "the
>>>>squeegee man" (aka a person who cleans car windows at stop lights).
>>>aka a windshield mugger
>>>Thanks for reminding me that no matter how corrupt and tyrannical
>>>Giuliani was, he also had a good side.
>> So did Hitler, Moussolini, and Atilla the Hun.
> What do you like best about the three gentlemen you named?
--------------
"Gentlemen?" OK, let's go with that premise.
I believe that Moussolini forced the railroads to run on schedule, which was
an issue that greatly concerned the public at that time. Hitler was said to
have helped with an overpopulation problem. Atilla the Hun stimulated the
economy of his home turf in much the same way other governments have done -
through a somewhat primitive military-industrial complex. Yes, all these
fine gentlemen were not misanthropes after all, but like Our Hero Giuliani,
sincerely practiced "tough love" and "compassionate conservatism" to the
great benefit of society.
Slim
> "Darrin" <darr...@aol.com> wrote in message
> news:52a87550-7410-47b5...@d45g2000hsc.googlegroups.com...
On
>
> Apr 4, 3:56?pm, "Freedom Fighter" <libe...@once.net> wrote:
>> "Darrin" <darrin...@aol.com> wrote in message
>>
> I am far more against fascist ex-mayor Giuliani than Bloomberg, and
> Giuliani is a Catholic!
Its amazing that after three marriages, and his immoral display of his
mistress to the entire city,
and his attempt to cast his wife and children from Gracie Mansion, plus
his utter lack or respect
for the Constitution and Bill of Rights, the Catholic Church has not
excommunicated him.
Slim
> On Apr 4, 10:25 pm, Slim <s...@pickins.com> wrote:
>> On 2008-04-04 19:53:55 -0400, Darrin <darrin...@aol.com> said:
>>> On Apr 4, 3:56�pm, "Freedom Fighter" <libe...@once.net> wrote:
>>>> "Darrin" <darrin...@aol.com> wrote in message
>
>>> it's Israel.>
>
>> They suck more cash from American Taxpayers than any other country.>>
>
> It's called investing in a country that has given back to The US and
> the World tenfold!
How has the Greatest Fascist Welfare State in the World "given back" anything
other than overpriced tomatoes and death?
Slim
> If it Is referred to as the "JEWISH STATE OF ISRAEL"...its a Fascist State.
Charmin
Freedom Fighter wrote:
> "Charmin" <ms...@pg.com> wrote in message news:p6IJj.126$BT1.14@trnddc04...
>
>>Freedom Fighter wrote:
>>
>>>"Darrin" <darr...@aol.com> wrote in message
>>>news:52a87550-7410-47b5...@d45g2000hsc.googlegroups.com...
>>
>>>>No, you single-out Jews because you jealously obsess over them, day
>>>
>>>and night!
>>>
>>>Really? You know nothing about me, so just how can you presume to know
>>>what is in my mind, day and night? As I said, you've been indoctrinated,
>>>even brainwashed, into labelling as antisemitic and sociopathic anyone
>>>that doesn't think and do just as you have been told they should think
>>>and do.
>>
>>You wrote that, "Hitler was said to have helped with an overpopulation
>>problem."
>>
>>http://groups.google.com/group/nyc.politics/msg/46e387429ea49901?
>
>
> ------
> Your above "Hitler" quote was TAKEN OUT OF CONTEXT, WITH THE DELIBERATE
> INTENT TO MISLEAD! Did you know that doing this constitutes LIBEL? Not
> very bright, are you?
Thank you for the instant replay you published below.
You like Moussolini's trains running on time and you like the Atilla the
Hun's economic stimulation package.
What do you like best about Hitler? What you like best about Hitler
was, "Hitler was said to have helped with an overpopulation problem".
What was the overpopulation problem Hitler helped solve?
Freedom Fighter
< snip >
Well, "Charmin," it is now obvious why you've named yourself after a brand
of toilet paper -
You are just another ASSWIPE TROLL!
PLONK!
---------------------------------------
HOW TO DEFEAT THE TROLLS
An Internet "troll" is a person who delights in sowing discord
on the Internet. He or she slanders others and seeks to cause
conflicts and upset people. Trolls are malicious, antisocial,
and often mentally ill. They crave attention, and care not
whether it is positive or negative. The Internet is a
convenient venue for their bizarre, misanthropic games - a
means to abuse others without fear of retaliation. Trolls are
cowards - lacking the courage to be overtly hostile towards
people, they hide behind their computers and the anonymity of
the Internet. The troll is a less intelligent version of the
malicious hacker or virus writer.
Trolls are impervious to meaningful dialogue. You CANNOT reason
with them and you CANNOT cause them to feel shame or
compassion. Trolls do not feel bound by rules of courtesy or
social responsibility. They are simply not playing with a full
deck. It is futile to try to "cure" a troll of his obsession.
Trolls are irrational and not accessible through any sane approach.
Established posters may leave a newsgroup/message board because
of troll-created conflicts, and lurkers (readers that do not
post) may not want to expose themselves to abuse and therefore
never speak up. Thus they unwisely allow the troll to violate
their rights of free speech and expression. The Internet is a
vital resource - and probably the last stand for free speech.
Being antisocial, trolls hate this and try to subvert it.
When you try to reason with a troll, he wins. When you curse at
a troll, he wins. If he succeeds in angering you, he's succeeded.
THE ONLY THING THE TROLL CAN'T HANDLE IS BEING IGNORED -
having NO EFFECT on his intended targets!
So the best way to deal with trolls is to IGNORE THEM and
occasionally (and ONLY occasionally) remind others not to
respond to them either.
Hard to ignore? You can set up your computer to AUTOMATICALLY
ignore the troll by using your KILLFILE. Just go to the
offensive message, and bring your pointer to the "MESSAGE" tab
near the top of your screen. Click, and a menu opens. Go to and
click on "BLOCK SENDER." You will no longer see any of the
sender's posts from that account. This is called "plonking" the troll.
Ignored, these children will have to find another game to play.
Darrin
> sane individuals. Let alone those who claim not to be anti-Semitic!!! ->
> The mere use of the word "Zionist" indicates that one is not sane??
> Are you serious?
Without question! Since you are not using "Zionist" to describe
yourself, what other purpose are you using it for, my deranged one?
Neo-nazis are the only group who consistently use that term in a
derogatory manner. See FF say: "Deport all the Zionists back to
Israel!" As opposed to: "Zionism, based on the Biblical name for
Jerusalem, Zion, sought a final return to a national homeland for the
Jews." BTW, if you are Jewish (which I seriously doubt), you're twice
the meshugg! You're only providing more fodder to our enemies -
Zionists not being one. As Michael told Fredo in The Godfather: "Never
go against the family!" -D, NYC "Outside it's a bright night. There's
an opera at Lincoln Center. Movie stars arrive by limousine...The
klieg lights shoot up over the skyline of Manhattan...But the lights
are out on the mean streets" - LOU REED (b. Rabinowitz, insert you
know what here!ehe).."I am convinced that the persecution of the Jew
is not due in any large degree to religious prejudice. No, the Jew is
a money-getter; and in getting his money, he is a very serious
obstruction to less capable neighbors who are on the same quest" -
MARK TWAIN.."On the High Holidays till about 1915, the Eldridge Street
congregation drew thousands of worshippers, and police were called in
to help mantain the crowds on the narrow streets. Sadly, in the 1930s,
as the Jewish population of the Lower East Side plummeted, the
congregation dispersed and the building fell into disrepair. It was
not until the 1980s that historical preservationists established a
foundation to rescue the structure" - SYNAGOGUES & CELEBRATIONS: The
Place of Prayer in New York, excerpt from Jewish NY: Notable
Neighborhoods & Memorable Moments by Ira Wolfman
Freedom Fighter
If you seriously believe that the use of the word "Zionist" in conversation
or political debate indicates the person using the word is literally insane,
then you are clearly irrational yourself. YOU used the word here, so you
have therefore called yourself insane through your own claim!
Neo-nazis are the only group who consistently use that term in a
derogatory manner. See FF say: "Deport all the Zionists back to
Israel!"
I did not say that, and do not believe it. That you think I mean that is
further indication of your own irrationality - you see enemies where none
really exist. That is PARANOIA.
I have said that those with GREATER ALLEGIANCE TO A FOREIGN NATION than to
America should be living there, not here. That is not limited to Jews, or
any other group. If your purpose in living in America is to gain benefit for
a foreign nation at America's expense, you are being DISLOYAL to America and
should not be living here.
> As opposed to: "Zionism, based on the Biblical name for
Jerusalem, Zion, sought a final return to a national homeland for the
Jews." BTW, if you are Jewish (which I seriously doubt), you're twice
the meshugg! You're only providing more fodder to our enemies -
Zionists not being one. As Michael told Fredo in The Godfather: "Never
go against the family!" -D, NYC "Outside it's a bright night. There's
an opera at Lincoln Center. Movie stars arrive by limousine...The
klieg lights shoot up over the skyline of Manhattan...But the lights
are out on the mean streets" - LOU REED (b. Rabinowitz, insert you
know what here!ehe).."I am convinced that the persecution of the Jew
is not due in any large degree to religious prejudice. No, the Jew is
a money-getter; and in getting his money, he is a very serious
obstruction to less capable neighbors who are on the same quest" -
MARK TWAIN.."On the High Holidays till about 1915, the Eldridge Street
congregation drew thousands of worshippers, and police were called in
to help mantain the crowds on the narrow streets. Sadly, in the 1930s,
as the Jewish population of the Lower East Side plummeted, the
congregation dispersed and the building fell into disrepair. It was
not until the 1980s that historical preservationists established a
foundation to rescue the structure" - SYNAGOGUES & CELEBRATIONS: The
Place of Prayer in New York, excerpt from Jewish NY: Notable
Neighborhoods & Memorable Moments by Ira Wolfman
What is the purpose to the above semi-coherent, mosty irrelevant paragraph?
It would appear to be further evidence that when you call me or anyone else
insane, you are performing psychological projection.
You seriously need to overcome the damaging effects of your religious and
cultural indoctrination.
As I've said elsewhere, SEE WHAT RELIGION DOES TO PEOPLES' MINDS?
Religion is why there are suicide bombers!
Charmin
Freedom Fighter wrote:
> "Charmin" <ms...@pg.com> wrote in message news:y83Kj.215$_I1.5@trnddc02...
>
> < snip >
>
> Well, "Charmin," it is now obvious why you've named yourself after a brand
> of toilet paper -
> You are just another ASSWIPE TROLL!
"Ad-hominem attack is the refuge of unintelligent and immature
people that can't refute an opinion with logic or facts, so
they resort to childishly attacking the person that holds the opinion.
Pathetic."
Darrin
The truest definition of paranoia: one who believes that everyone else
is!ehe Unfknblvbl! ehe FF, do you still believe that Israel & Larry
Silverstein (Jewish NYC real estate magnate, owner of Twin Towers)
both had a hand in 9/11? LOL! As the old adage goes: "Crazy people
don't know they're crazy!" eh According to you, Mossad is the enemy,
Zionists are the enemy, Bloomberg is the enemy. FF, if the war inside
your head ever took a day off, you'd be dead!ehee -D, NYC "Something
about New York..has given rise to a pluralism within Jewish life that
never existed...a certain spirit of American live-and-let
live..pragmatism..has made it possible for all kinds of Jews to live
together not only in one city but in one community" - RABBI ARTHUR
HERTZBERG
Freedom Fighter
The above is close to incoherent, as is much of the verbiage of a paranoid
fanatic.
> ehe FF, do you still believe that Israel & Larry
Silverstein (Jewish NYC real estate magnate, owner of Twin Towers)
both had a hand in 9/11? LOL!
I believe that WTC 7, and probably all three collapsed WTC buildings, were
actually brought down by demolition explosives placed in them WELL BEFORE
the planes struck the towers.
As a good detective knows, when seeking criminals, you investigate those
that benefitted from the crime. It would clearly be to the advantage of
Israel for the US to have a massive military presence in the mideast.
Therefore, it is credible to me that Mossad had a hand in the conspiracy. I
don't suppose you've heard of the "dancing Israelis" arrested in New Jersey
on 9/11 while openly celebrating the horrible events happening before their
eyes in Manhattan?
> As the old adage goes: "Crazy people don't know they're crazy!"
A good point, sane one.
> eh According to you, Mossad is the enemy, Zionists are the enemy,
> Bloomberg is the enemy.
No, but SOME Zionists and their agents act against the interests of America,
and thus can be considered such. Bloomberg is just an elitist billionaire
with almost as little respect for our freedoms and pleasures as his
tyrannical predecessor.
> FF, if the war inside your head ever took a day off, you'd be dead!ehee
Typical ad-hominem attack from a frustrated, neurotic adolescent.
I'll waste no further time with you. You are a narrow-minded bigot, blind to
your own mental abberations and projecting them onto everyone else.
PLONK!
danny burstein
>I believe that WTC 7, and probably all three collapsed WTC buildings, were
>actually brought down by demolition explosives placed in them WELL BEFORE
>the planes struck the towers.
And I believe you're a loon.
When are you picking up that MetroCard?
--
_____________________________________________________
Knowledge may be power, but communications is the key
dan...@panix.com
[to foil spammers, my address has been double rot-13 encoded]
Darrin
> "Darrin" <darrin...@aol.com> wrote in message
> > ehe FF, do you still believe that Israel & Larry> > Silverstein (Jewish NYC real estate magnate, owner of Twin Towers)
> both had a hand in 9/11? LOL!>
> I believe that WTC 7, and probably all three collapsed WTC buildings, were
> actually brought down by demolition explosives placed in them WELL BEFORE
> the planes struck the towers.>
> As a good detective knows, when seeking criminals, you investigate those
> that benefitted from the crime. It would clearly be to the advantage of
> Israel for the US to have a massive military presence in the mideast.
> Therefore, it is credible to me that Mossad had a hand in the conspiracy. I
> don't suppose you've heard of the "dancing Israelis" arrested in New Jersey
> on 9/11 while openly celebrating the horrible events happening before their
> eyes in Manhattan?>
> > As the old adage goes: "Crazy people don't know they're crazy!">
> A good point, sane one.>
As long as I do not believe that Israel & Larry Silverstein are behind
9/11, I shall always be saner than you!ehee As long as Zionism isn't
the topic of conversation around my water cooler, ditto!ehe In this
instance, your lack of sanity is easy to gauge!ehee
> > FF, if the war inside your head ever took a day off, you'd be dead!ehee>
> Typical ad-hominem attack from a frustrated, neurotic adolescent.> I'll waste no further time with you. You are a narrow-minded bigot, blind to> your own mental abberations and projecting them onto everyone else.> PLONK!->>
This adolescent is 39-years-old, and can still run circles around your
decrepitly insane tush! ehe Once again, your own words paint you as
someone who is one wave short of a shipwreck!eheee It's obvious to
those of us who are sane, but not to the insane individual - ie. YOU!
eh -D, NYC "I've seen the lights go out on Broadway - I saw the Empire
State laid low" - BILLY JOEL (umpteenth sweet, Jewish NYer - Top 100
selling artist of all-time).."What a fabulous, fun, smart post! I
haven't been reading these ngs for very long but sometimes I come
across the comments and writings of people who have these wonderfully
quick and lively minds, full of fun and that ability to see sideways
and around things and sometimes, just old-fashioned brilliant. It's so
great to read and laugh and enjoy that spark!!" - CORDELIA LEAR
(online user describing yours truly!eheh).."New York is where I'd
rather stay. I get allergic smelling hay. I just adore a penthouse
view. Darling, I love you but give me Park Avenue. The chores! (The
stores!), Fresh air! (Times Square!)" - GREEN ACRES THEME.."The
trouble with New York is it's so convenient to everything I can't
afford!" eh - JACK BENNY (b. Kubelsky, sweet Jew).."During the early
1900s, when hundreds of thousands of Eastern European Jews emigrated
to America and settled in New York City, they brought their family
recipes for knishes. Knishes were made at home until Yonah Schimmel, a
rabbi from Romania, began to sell them at Coney Island ("America's
First Amusement Park") and from a pushcart on the Lower East Side. In
1910, he opened a knish bakery on East Houston Street, where it still
remains today" - LITTLE BIG BOOK OF NEW YORK.."Between 1892 & 1924, 16
million immigrants entered America through Ellis Island - 71 % of all
immigrants in the United States - seeking freedom of speech, freedom
of religion, and economic opportunities" - IBID.."New York City has
the most skyscrapers in the world with more than 130" - IBID.."Chop
Suey is based on a Cantonese term for "odds and ends" or "mixed
pieces" and a dish that does not exist in China. There are numerous
theories regarding the origins of Chop Suey. The most widely accepted
is that the dish was created in New York City in 1896 when Chinese
ambassador Li Hung Chang was sent by the Chinese Emperor to meet with
President Grover Cleveland to strengthen US/China relations. When
Chang threw a party, his personal cook prepared a bland meal,
reminiscent of a Chinese-style dish, to satisfy both the American and
Chinese palates" - IBID.."NYC - 8 million or so people.. 5
boroughs..international mix of people..it has been the hubbub of
nightlife activity and restaurants for 50-100 years" - JAMES OLIVER
CURY, Time Out Magazine.."I thank God I was born on the banks of the
Huson" - DIEDRICH KNICKERBOCKER, pseudonym of WASHINGTIN IRVING, poet/
author, A History of New York - 1809.."The only credential (New York)
was the boldness to dream" - MOSS HART, act one, 1959.."Excelsior -
ever upward!" - NY STATE MOTTO.."Have you seen the well-to-do..up &
down Park Avenue..on that famous thoroughfare...with there noses in
the air...Puttin' on the Ritz" - IRVING BERLIN (b. Baline, sweet NY
raised)
Darrin
> On Apr 8, 5:21�pm, "Freedom Fighter" <libe...@once.net> wrote:
>
> > "Darrin" <darrin...@aol.com> wrote in message
> > > ehe FF, do you still believe that Israel & Larry> > Silverstein (Jewish NYC real estate magnate, owner of Twin Towers)
> > both had a hand in 9/11? LOL!>
> > I believe that WTC 7, and probably all three collapsed WTC buildings, were
> > actually brought down by demolition explosives placed in them WELL BEFORE
> > the planes struck the towers.>
> > As a good detective knows, when seeking criminals, you investigate those
> > that benefitted from the crime. It would clearly be to the advantage of
> > Israel for the US to have a massive military presence in the mideast.
> > Therefore, it is credible to me that Mossad had a hand in the conspiracy. I
> > don't suppose you've heard of the "dancing Israelis" arrested in New Jersey
> > on 9/11 while openly celebrating the horrible events happening before their
> > eyes in Manhattan?>
This above beaut was so good, I had to come back to it! eh See, unlike
those "Dancing Israelis," we have actual video footage of "dancing Jew-
hating Palestinians," succeeding 9/11. The dancing Israeli lie has
been debunked a million and one times. The only people who believe in
the above lies are anti-Semites - ie. YOU! Someone as disturbed as you
should shlep out to the boonies of Idaho, where you would be at home
with your fellow racist loonies. Jewish NY is not for you!! Envy is
only eating away at your rotten kishkas!! Read it and weep, ya creep:
Excerpt from: http://slate.msn.com/id/116813 (4,000 Jews, 1 lie -
Slate Magazine)
3) Citing the Israeli newspaper Ha'aretz, it alleges that the FBI
arrested five Israelis who were caught filming the WTC's smoking
rubble from their office building roof. (They were being held on the
charge of "puzzling behavior.")
No other media outlet that can be searched through Nexis or Google has
confirmed the Information Times claims about Sharon and the five
Israelis.
Within days, the story appeared in newspapers around the world. A
remarkably similar version appeared under the byline of Irina Malenko
in Russia's Pravda on Sept. 21. Pravda removed the article from its
Web site a few hours after posting, calling it a "great and foolish
mistake," but it can still be accessed here. On Sept. 21, the Chicago
Tribune reported that a Pakistani paper, which it did not name, had
published a similar account. In his Sept. 23 Slate "Dispatch" from
Islamabad, Peter Maass reported that a local pro-Taliban politician
repeated the 4,000 Jews claim at an anti-U.S. rally. On Sept. 26,
Pakistan's Business Recorder printed the story about 4,000 Jews in
language almost identical to the original Al-Manar article as a letter
to the editor under the name "Hakeem." The same day, the New York
Times reported that the allegation had appeared in a newsletter
published by an Islamic charity and in lesson plans prepared by
Egyptian middle-school teachers. On Oct. 4, the Chicago Tribune
spotted the allegation in a Saudi paper, which it did not name. In the
Oct. 8 issue of Time, Tim McGirk reported from Pakistan that the story
had swept through the country's mosques and Urdu newspapers.
Moishe Lippschitz, MD
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> Diagnosis: Paranoid delusional with a very healthy overdose of
> narcissistic self love- a man who loves to suck his own dick, but you
> knew that.
Well he certainly is sick but since most jews are it's hard to tell if he's
psychotic or just being a jew. We really have to laugh at his idea that
people are jealous of jews. Jealous of what? lol This is the same paranoid
crap that Bush's jew advisors feed to the dumb unsophisticated Americans
about muslims. Now, the jews may have found the promised land in the US due
to the ease of fleecing the simple trusting yokels but it's only the most
impoverished and ignorant that are swarming in. Very few intelligent people
want to go to the US to live.
NefeshBarYohai
Well since you are not an itelligent people maybe you'll stay in the
sewers of ostrich land sicko.
Professor Bugsbomb
"NefeshBarYohai" <tac...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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Take your Thorazine before they lock you up again.