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From: Gedding <three30li...@hotmail.com>
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Im hearing the desire for some sharing of experiences, insights, or
ideas around sex and evolution.

For me it seems that the same requirements for the sorts of
empathetic, healing, and/or fun connections i find in NVC are
"personified in the physical sence" (dont know a word for that) by
sex.

For NVC connections to be best requires honesty, acceptence,
presentness, open honest feedback, and the person absolutely wants to
be there.

Now if i think about how these things would be turned into something
physical,
honesty- naked, complete physical honest, no clothes (or masks).
If either party does not accept their body, or the body of the other
person then it does not work.
If anyone is off in their heads (not present) it does not work.
If the person does not want to be there, doesnt work.
And there is a open and direct physical feedback system as to the
extent things are/are not working, which i dont think needs further
illustration (te he he).

So it seems to be a strategy for meeting the fundamental and
overarching need for connection.

It can be alot easier to do physically thru sex than non-physically.

Here is the kicker, there are more limitations in the physcial world
than the mental world.
There is a limit to the extent and profundity one can connect
physically.
This is why Plato teaches that the most profund and need meeting
connection can only take place in the mind.
Physical reality cannot turn back around on itself and connect with
itself directly and completely, its against the rules of physics, but
the mind can, and that is the goal of Platonic philosophy / study /
spirituality.

I have not experienced this enough to comment on it further, but i
wonder if there is a way to connect with other minds, or to share
physical energy in a way that results in greater, more profound