Growing the contributor base of Numpy

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Jonathan Rocher

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Mar 25, 2013, 2:56:32 PM3/25/13
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Dear all, 

One recurring question is how to grow the contributor base to NumPy and provide help and relief to core developers and maintainers. 

One way to do this would be to leverage the upcoming SciPy conference in 2 ways:
  1. Provide an intermediate or advanced level tutorial on NumPy focusing on teaching the C-API and the architecture of the package to help people navigate the source code, and find answers to precise deep questions. I think that many users would be interested in being better able to understand the underlayers to become powerful users (and contributors if they want to). 

  2. Organize a Numpy sprint to leverage all this freshly graduated students apply what they learned to tackle some of the work under the guidance of core developers. 
This would be a great occasion to share and grow knowledge that is fundamental to our community. And the fact that the underlayers are in C is fine IMHO: SciPy is about scientific programming in Python and that is done with a lot of C. 

Thoughts? Anyone interested in leading a tutorial (can be a team of people)? Anyone willing to coordinate the sprint? Who would be willing to be present and help during the sprint? 

Note that there is less than 1 week left until the tutorial submission deadline. I am happy to help brainstorm on this to make it happen. 

Thanks,
Jonathan and Andy, for the SciPy2013 organizers

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Ralf Gommers

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Mar 26, 2013, 3:16:35 AM3/26/13
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On Mon, Mar 25, 2013 at 7:56 PM, Jonathan Rocher <jro...@enthought.com> wrote:
Dear all, 

One recurring question is how to grow the contributor base to NumPy and provide help and relief to core developers and maintainers. 

One way to do this would be to leverage the upcoming SciPy conference in 2 ways:
  1. Provide an intermediate or advanced level tutorial on NumPy focusing on teaching the C-API and the architecture of the package to help people navigate the source code, and find answers to precise deep questions. I think that many users would be interested in being better able to understand the underlayers to become powerful users (and contributors if they want to). 

  2. Organize a Numpy sprint to leverage all this freshly graduated students apply what they learned to tackle some of the work under the guidance of core developers. 
This would be a great occasion to share and grow knowledge that is fundamental to our community. And the fact that the underlayers are in C is fine IMHO: SciPy is about scientific programming in Python and that is done with a lot of C. 

Thoughts? Anyone interested in leading a tutorial (can be a team of people)? Anyone willing to coordinate the sprint? Who would be willing to be present and help during the sprint? 

First thought: excellent initiative. I'm not going to be at SciPy, but I'm happy to coordinate a numpy/scipy sprint at EuroScipy. Going to email the organizers right now.

Ralf


 
Note that there is less than 1 week left until the tutorial submission deadline. I am happy to help brainstorm on this to make it happen. 

Thanks,
Jonathan and Andy, for the SciPy2013 organizers

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Jonathan Rocher, PhD
Scientific software developer
SciPy2013 conference co-chair
Enthought, Inc.
jrocher@enthought.com
1-512-536-1057
http://www.enthought.com

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David Cournapeau

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Mar 26, 2013, 3:06:11 PM3/26/13
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On Mon, Mar 25, 2013 at 6:56 PM, Jonathan Rocher <jro...@enthought.com> wrote:
> Dear all,
>
> One recurring question is how to grow the contributor base to NumPy and
> provide help and relief to core developers and maintainers.
>
> One way to do this would be to leverage the upcoming SciPy conference in 2
> ways:
>
> Provide an intermediate or advanced level tutorial on NumPy focusing on
> teaching the C-API and the architecture of the package to help people
> navigate the source code, and find answers to precise deep questions. I
> think that many users would be interested in being better able to understand
> the underlayers to become powerful users (and contributors if they want to).
>
> Organize a Numpy sprint to leverage all this freshly graduated students
> apply what they learned to tackle some of the work under the guidance of
> core developers.
>
> This would be a great occasion to share and grow knowledge that is
> fundamental to our community. And the fact that the underlayers are in C is
> fine IMHO: SciPy is about scientific programming in Python and that is done
> with a lot of C.
>
> Thoughts? Anyone interested in leading a tutorial (can be a team of people)?
> Anyone willing to coordinate the sprint? Who would be willing to be present
> and help during the sprint?

I would be happy to be part of the team doing it,

David

Ralf Gommers

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Mar 27, 2013, 4:09:21 PM3/27/13
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On Tue, Mar 26, 2013 at 8:16 AM, Ralf Gommers <ralf.g...@gmail.com> wrote:



On Mon, Mar 25, 2013 at 7:56 PM, Jonathan Rocher <jro...@enthought.com> wrote:
Dear all, 

One recurring question is how to grow the contributor base to NumPy and provide help and relief to core developers and maintainers. 

One way to do this would be to leverage the upcoming SciPy conference in 2 ways:
  1. Provide an intermediate or advanced level tutorial on NumPy focusing on teaching the C-API and the architecture of the package to help people navigate the source code, and find answers to precise deep questions. I think that many users would be interested in being better able to understand the underlayers to become powerful users (and contributors if they want to). 

  2. Organize a Numpy sprint to leverage all this freshly graduated students apply what they learned to tackle some of the work under the guidance of core developers. 
This would be a great occasion to share and grow knowledge that is fundamental to our community. And the fact that the underlayers are in C is fine IMHO: SciPy is about scientific programming in Python and that is done with a lot of C. 

Thoughts? Anyone interested in leading a tutorial (can be a team of people)? Anyone willing to coordinate the sprint? Who would be willing to be present and help during the sprint? 

First thought: excellent initiative. I'm not going to be at SciPy, but I'm happy to coordinate a numpy/scipy sprint at EuroScipy. Going to email the organizers right now.

The EuroScipy organizers have accepted our sprint, so we'll have a room available. If you're going to the conference, think about reserving Sun 25 Aug to attend this sprint. I've put up a page where people can add topics and more details: http://projects.scipy.org/scipy/wiki/EuroSciPy2013Sprint

Ralf

Jonathan Rocher

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Mar 27, 2013, 4:45:56 PM3/27/13
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Awesome Ralf!

And thanks David C. for being available for the US one. When you say you would like to be part of it, did you mean an advanced tutorial or a sprint? Other people available to contribute to this or coordinate this?

Thanks, 
Jonathan

David Cournapeau

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Mar 28, 2013, 12:47:05 PM3/28/13
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On Wed, Mar 27, 2013 at 8:45 PM, Jonathan Rocher <jro...@enthought.com> wrote:
> Awesome Ralf!
>
> And thanks David C. for being available for the US one. When you say you
> would like to be part of it, did you mean an advanced tutorial or a sprint?

I meant I would be happy to contribute to a tutorial in the spirit of
"dive into numpy code". I would prefer if we were two doing it,
though.

David

David Cournapeau

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Apr 7, 2013, 5:40:01 PM4/7/13
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I have prepared a preliminary proposal
https://github.com/enthought/davidc-scipy-2013/blob/master/proposal.rst

Roughly, after ensuring everybody knows how to build numpy from
sources in a dev-friendly way, I was thinking about
- describing the source code tree organization
- talk about the main data structures (array + dtype), and how they
relate to the python runtime
- more details about dtype: use basic array operations to describe
the whole mechanism, and how to create a simple one (using wrapping
float128 as an example)

I also intended to give a few tips regarding tools (e.g. how to track
a python call to its core C implementation).

Stéfan Van Der Walt agreed in principle to contribute, but his
participation is still very conditional.

David

Paul Ivanov

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Apr 7, 2013, 7:44:36 PM4/7/13
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David Cournapeau, on 2013-04-07 22:40, wrote:
> I have prepared a preliminary proposal
> https://github.com/enthought/davidc-scipy-2013/blob/master/proposal.rst

David, this looks great - a much needed tutorial for growing the
contributor base

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