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Sonny Cloward  
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From: "Sonny Cloward" <sonny.clow...@npowerny.org>
Date: Fri, 4 Apr 2008 06:18:57 -0400
Local: Fri, Apr 4 2008 6:18 am
Subject: Re: [NPSF] Notes from Foundation meeting on Nonprofit Template Process - 4/2/08

Steve,

I think I can safely say on behalf of everyone at NPower, that not only am I
elated that the Foundation is kicking off this much needed effort, but that
you are the one leading it.  I'm thrilled to be a part of this process and
community.

In response to your first order of business: "Identify the objectives of the
Foundation and the Community in creating a new version of the nonprofit
template"

I'm not sure if this list is the best "workspace" to facilitate this
conversation and aggregate input, feedback, and outcomes.  Since you
mentioned the Plone community (and I'm more familiar with the Drupal dev
community), what are the best practices in engaging a small, but diverse
community in an effort like this?  A wiki? A PM application (i.e.
Basecamp)?  A dedicated open dev site similar to Mozilla (
http://developer.mozilla.org/en/docs/Main_Page)?

I know this has always been an issue for us (a single repository for
information, conversations, etc), but think its incredibly important moving
forward - for not only the success of this project, but the ongoing
developement of sf.com in our vertical.

Regardless of what workspace we decide on, I think its important to keep the
NPSF list informed about progress and solicit wider community input when
called for.

Again....very excited about the ensuing conversations and efforts in this
project.

Regards,

~S

On Thu, Apr 3, 2008 at 2:23 PM, Steve Andersen <gok...@gmail.com> wrote:
> As Steve Wright's email earlier indicated, today the Foundation kicked off
> a process for getting to a Version 2 of the Nonprofit template. I'm going to
> help them by facilitating a series of conversations, and generate from that
> a plan to move forward.

> The goal of this email is to inform everyone of what was discussed in the
> call yesterday, and ask for some specific input:

>    1. Take a look at these notes and respond to the thread with any
>    clarifying questions or thoughts
>       1. In the Plone community '+1' is used to signify agreement
>       with an idea, '-1' is disagreement. Example: +1 to new nonprofit template,
>       -1 to renaming it TuckerForce 2.0 Foundation
>    2. Think about ways you would like to be involved in the process
>       1. Contributing feedback at times like this
>       2. Taking a more active role in a workgroup or similar kind of
>       structure (probably not right now because this structure doesn't yet exist)
>       3. Leave me alone! UNSUBSCRIBE, UNSUBSCRIBE!!!

> The goals of this project that the Foundation has undertaken are to:

>    1. Identify the objectives of the Foundation and the Community in
>    creating a new version of the nonprofit template
>    2. Develop a process for community involvement
>    3. Create a plan for technical implementation of the nonprofit
>    template
>    4. Identify any platform and/or company issues that might be
>    mitigated

> I want to summarize the conversation from the meeting yesterday, and no
> better way than to start with some of the core beliefs that Steve Wright and
> others in the Foundation brought up in the conversation:

>    - the NPSF community has the domain knowledge necessary to serve
>    nonprofits with Salesforce.com--the Foundation doesn't have this expansive
>    knowledge
>    - the Foundation can't be successful or sustainable without a
>    vibrant ecosystem of integrators and add-on tool providers
>    - the Foundation puts great importance on it's ability to listen to
>    the community, and wants this process to reinforce that

> The conversation was wide-ranging and I've broken it down into 3 main
> areas of discussion:

>    1. The vision for the Nonprofit Template
>    2. The Community Input Process for creating and sustaining the
>    template
>    3. The "Ideal" solution

> These notes are an imperfect representation of the conversation, but I
> think I've captured the main points that came up:

>    - Vision
>       - The template should provide a frictionless way for a
>       small/med NPO to get up on sf.com in an intuitive way
>          - The template and resources around the template should
>          allow new sf.com Admins to climb the ramp to being
>          successful
>       - The template should be a way to catalyze partner community
>       and build a viable ecosystem
>          - The template should be a catalyst for community
>          development of add-on modules
>       - It should help make integrations more plentiful
>          - coming to core data model decisions would help ISVs
>          - the community can exert pressure on the partner
>          community when we come to that new template
>          - The first nonprofit template was used as a way to get
>          ISVs to get integrations working with NP template
>       - The template should make things easier for integrators
>          - biggest frustration is that we're all reinventing the
>          wheel (fundraising)
>          - we'd rather focus time/money on organziational process
>          questions
>          - it would be great to have best practices and
>          guidelines for building a reusable app based on the template
>       - The template needs to serve the lowest common denominator
>          - It currently works for groups with tech skills and
>          money, not so much for smaller group
>       - By the way, this vision is a massive undertaking
>          - We need to figure out how to get started
>          - We need to build structures to support the process
>          sustainably
>       - Community input process
>       - The process for community involvement needs to come first,
>       or at least in parallel with building the template
>       - Possible structures that could help
>          - NPSF Community
>             - there needs to be openness and transparency
>             - community input will be requested and heard
>             - working groups
>             - to work on specific issues, applications
>             - case management, for example
>          - steering committee
>             - a smallish group of many stakeholders from
>             different communities
>             - would work with foundation to set priorities
>             - they don't maintain the direction but make the
>             architecture decisions
>             - maybe use ideas.salesforce.com to gather ideas
>                - small team then makes more complex calls
>                on what/how to implement
>             - Foundation
>             - retains final decision making authority
>                - they're on the hook for supporting the
>                template given to noprofits
>             - Possible Product Manager for template
>                - make everything transparent
>                - would head steering committee
>                - would work with independent developers
>                - when a new product comes along
>                   - is it part of the Nonprofit
>                   template?
>                   - is it an app that works with the
>                   template?
>                   - do we then certify apps?
>                   - The Ideal solution (blue sky
>    thinking)
>       - would love to see come out of this process
>          - consistent set of definitions and terms
>             - Nonprofit Edition
>                - would include underlying architecture
>                - would need a roadmap
>             - Applications or Templates
>                - installable on the Nonprofit Edition
>                   - i.e. donor management
>                   - i.e. case management
>                - Technical Modeling thoughts
>       - modularity is key
>          - maybe a configurator on signup
>             - pick different packages to add to the base
>             template
>          - everything stems off core data modeling
>             - need an organized forum for collecting the info
>             on the core data model questions
>                - pros and cons of all key modeling options
>             - need to build a Contact centered, relationship
>             centric model
>          - Possible process for getting to a technical model
>             - get first draft of architecture decisions with
>             help from sf.com technical staff
>                - ASAP: make a decisions about person
>                accounts vs. other options
>             - get a technical plan and put it out to the
>             community for info and feedback
>          - Random thoughts
>       - lack of upgrade path for old template users is a huge
>       problem
>       - we should create user stories about how the Nonprofit
>       template can address User needs rather than Integrator needs
>       - talk about implications of changes for early adopters if the
>       architecture direction changes
>       - there are inherent tensions
>          - building template internally vs. having the community
>          build it
>          - broad community involvement vs. small team
>          - Foundation ownership vs. Open Source-ish community

> If you have clarifying questions or comments, please respond to this
> thread. I'd love to see a ton of discussion. I really believe that we as a
> community are the ones who will move this forward and make it a better
> solution for nonprofits. We already have done that by sharing so much on
> this group and in other forums.

> The next steps are:

>    1. Follow this thread closely and see what comes out of the
>    community discussion
>    2. Start a conversation with internal Salesforce.com resources
>    around the core Technical questions about platform and roadmap
>    3. Have a second call with the Foundation to follow up on what
>    structures we should put in place now for moving this forward

> Thanks!

> Steve

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Sonny Cloward
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NPower NY
www.npowerny.org

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