Re: disable IPV6 once and for all
Bob Goddard
> Hi suse support staff (and the guys that are responsible for ipv6)
> I have used Suse 9.0 9.1 and now 9.3. In all of these version there
> have been problems with IPV6. This slows down browsing on my pc.
> I have found several howtos on disabling ipv6 on different versions.
> It seems that lots of people on the net has the same problem.
> I cannot understand why suse does not fix the problem!
>
> I just want to use my PC the same way I use my car. That is just
> driving it. Using suse I find myself using ethereal to see how dns
> requests are beeing sendt and so on. I dont want to worry about things
> like this. The same way I don't want to worry about how the engine in
> my car works while I'm driving it.
>
> Can you pepole at suse just make a program called
> "remove-all-ipv6-problems" so that I can run it on my PC.
There are no problems with IPv6. I run it just fine.
Best way to disable it is to delete the ipv6.ko file then run depmod -a.
B
terc...@hotmail.com
I have used Suse 9.0 9.1 and now 9.3. In all of these version there have
been problems with IPV6. This slows down browsing on my pc.
I have found several howtos on disabling ipv6 on different versions. It
seems that lots of people on the net has the same problem.
I cannot understand why suse does not fix the problem!
I just want to use my PC the same way I use my car. That is just driving
it. Using suse I find myself using ethereal to see how dns requests are
beeing sendt and so on. I dont want to worry about things like this. The
same way I don't want to worry about how the engine in my car works while
I'm driving it.
Can you pepole at suse just make a program called
"remove-all-ipv6-problems" so that I can run it on my PC.
Regards Terje
baskitcaise
asbestos underwear to post:
Why write a program when it is a one line edit:
http://portal.suse.com/sdb/en/2003/10/90_mozilla_ipv6.html
HTH
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Mark
Novell Support Forums SysOp
Twixt hill and high water
N. Wales, UK.
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terc...@hotmail.com
It seems that I did not express myself accurate. My point is that most
users just want their PC to run, just like a car. Just a few has more
interest to the inside of the engine than driving the car.
Like Bob Goddard pointed out. The problem is not in suse, but in the dns
servers/home routers (adsl routers that has dhcp/dns etc. for a home
network). Some of these does not know what to do with ipv6 requests. There
will be a timeout and ethereal looks like this:
NO – TIME – SOURCE – DESTINATION – PROTOCOLL – INFO
1 - 0.000000 – 192.168.1.2 – 192.168.1.254 – DNS - Standard query AAAA
www.google.com
2 - 4.925672 – 192.168.1.2 – 192.168.1.254 – DNS - Standard query AAAA
www.google.com
3 - 4.998329 – 192.168.1.2 – 192.168.1.254 – ARP - Who has 192.168.1.254 ?
Tell 192.168.1.2
4 - 4.998561 – 192.168.1.254 – 192.168.1.2 – ARP - 192.168.1.254 is at
00:0c:76:a9:90:93
5 - 4.999346 – 192.168.1.2 – 192.168.1.254 – DNS - Standard query AAAA
www.google.com
6 - 5.971315 – 192.168.1.2 – 192.168.1.254 – DNS - Standard query PTR
2.1.168.192.in-addr.arpa
7 - 5.971358 – 192.168.1.2 – 192.168.1.254 – DNS - Standard query PTR
254.1.168.192.in-addr.arpa
8 - 5.995747 – 192.168.1.254 – 192.168.1.2 – DNS - Standard query
response, No such name
9 - 6.007841 – 192.168.1.254 – 192.168.1.2 – DNS - Standard query
response, No such name
10 - 9.925600 – 192.168.1.2 – 192.168.1.254 – DNS - Standard query AAAA
www.google.com
11 - 9.999690 – 192.168.1.2 – 192.168.1.254 – DNS - Standard query AAAA
www.google.com.mydomanin.no
12 - 14.925926 – 192.168.1.2 – 192.168.1.254 – DNS - Standard query AAAA
www.google.com.mydomanin.no
13 - 14.999828 – 192.168.1.2 – 192.168.1.254 – DNS - Standard query AAAA
www.google.com.mydomanin.no
14 - 19.926081 – 192.168.1.2 – 192.168.1.254 – DNS - Standard query AAAA
www.google.com.mydomanin.no
15 - 20.000122 – 192.168.1.2 – 192.168.1.254 – DNS - Standard query A
www.google.com
16 - 20.028952 – 192.168.1.254 – 192.168.1.2 – DNS - Standard query
response CNAME www.l.google.com A 216.239.59.104 .......
17 - 24.926381 – 192.168.1.2 – 192.168.1.254 – DNS - Standard query A
www.google.com
18 - 24.927411 – 192.168.1.254 – 192.168.1.2 – DNS - Standard query
response A 216.239.59.104 .......
19 - 24.929565 – 192.168.1.2 – 216.239.59.104 – TCP - 46183 > http [SYN]
seq= Ack=0 Win=5840 .....
* mydomain is a substitute for the domain I'm using.
As you can see there are a huge delay because the timeout on the IPV6
requests. Normal users does not know that there is such a ting as IPV6, not
something called tcp/ip for that matter. And they should not need to know!
They just see that suse is a slow operating system and is useless for
browsing the internet. And who can blame them?
baskitcaise Cannot see why there is a need to write a program to fix this
problem. He sends a howto link
http://portal.suse.com/sdb/en/2003/10/90_mozilla_ipv6.html
The problem is that the file refered to in this howto does not work on suse
ver 9.3 The file it refers to (/etc/modules.conf) does not even exist!
Even if the link referred to the correct file the user would have to
manually edit files just to browse the Internet. The user would probably
run into problems because only root can edit the file and so on.
So how can a normal user do this?
The answer is that a normal user cannot solve this problem. To solve it the
user would need knowledge of the operating system and its configurations.
If we are going to spread the use linux we must think more like the people
that makes cars. Everyone must be able to drive them.
Regards Terje
Marc Collin
baskitcaise
> this problem. He sends a howto link
> http://portal.suse.com/sdb/en/2003/10/90_mozilla_ipv6.html
>
> The problem is that the file refered to in this howto does not work on
> suse ver 9.3 The file it refers to (/etc/modules.conf) does not even
> exist!
But modprobe.conf does, if the user does not understand then he will
never be able to administer his own machine.
I showed you a link to a fix that is not exclusively a mozilla problem.
You referred to 9.1 and that is what I answered to.
But in 9.3 it is easier, Yast>System>/etc/sysconfig
editor>Destktop>KDE_USE_IPV6 switch to no.
>
> Even if the link referred to the correct file the user would have to
> manually edit files just to browse the Internet. The user would
> probably run into problems because only root can edit the file and so
> on.
>
> So how can a normal user do this?
A normal user cannot, that is the ethos behind permissions and why linux
is more secure than other O/S`s
> The answer is that a normal user cannot solve this problem. To solve
> it the user would need knowledge of the operating system and its
> configurations.
>
> If we are going to spread the use linux we must think more like the
> people that makes cars. Everyone must be able to drive them.
And probably from other machines spread around the world, if the users
security knowledge matches the users system knowledge then he would
soon be 0wn3d
How do you propose a normal user to run a linux machine without being
able to use a root account to configure it?
terc...@hotmail.com
I did follow Bob's advice and IPV6 is gone and the machine works just fine.
But that was not my point. I used linux for the first time in 94, then I
accepted that it was hard to use. Now, more than 10 years later it's a lot
better, but its still simpler for a user to drive a windows pc.
I don't want to get into the discussion on what system is better and safer,
because that does not matter if you need to bee a mechanic to drive it. If
only mechanics can drive linux then it will stay a nice tool for the
mechanics and not reach mass market.
I'm convinced that novell did not put their money on a nice tool for the
mechanics.
But this forum seems to be the wrong one to be philosophic about how to
spread the use of linux. Thank you all for your hints on the IPV6 problem.
Regards Terje