Knees....
MichaelC
my knees to sort the kneecap alignments out?
Well, I went back to the consultant last week because the pain's back -
the kneecaps are rubbing the base of the femur on both legs again.
Currently in for 2 months of physio and if that doesn't work, I'm back
under the knife for a "rescoping" (I think this is where the back of the
kneecap is scraped and the floating cartilage in the joint is removed).
Good fun, just glad I have a good private medical scheme <g>
Michael
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Susan
> just glad I have a good private medical scheme <g>
>
Me, too. Sounds terrible, but I do know that when they do that, it
usually feels lots better. Hope the physio works, though. : )
Susan
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MichaelC
> Me, too. Sounds terrible, but I do know that when they do that, it
> usually feels lots better. Hope the physio works, though. : )
Just back from my second physio session, not too much impact thus far,
but early days yet.
Maybe if they just take the kneecaps out, there might be less of a
problem <g>
Chris
Awww I hope things get better I remember the surgery you had before.
Stevo
ugh! Hate to hear that. Sure hope they get real better real soon.
Ben S.
*shudder* that makes mine hurt just thinking about it... best of luck
mate.
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Susan
> Maybe if they just take the kneecaps out, there might be less of a
> problem <g>
But then your leg bones would fall out! They're now giving John's
father some shots that insert fluid into his knees, to replace the
natural lubrication that has apparently dried up over time, and it's
working fairly well. Is that sort of thing something that might work
for you, or is it a case of build up of material? : )
MichaelC
> But then your leg bones would fall out!
LOL! Apparently all I'd lose would be a little bit of extension...
> They're now giving John's
> father some shots that insert fluid into his knees, to replace the
> natural lubrication that has apparently dried up over time, and it's
> working fairly well. Is that sort of thing something that might work
> for you, or is it a case of build up of material? : )
Mine's a couple of things - firstly the kneecaps are out of alignment,
so they rub on the bottom of the femur - this in turn leads to cartilage
wear on the back of the kneecaps, and so I have bits of cartilage
floating in the joint - nice :)
MichaelC
> ugh! Hate to hear that. Sure hope they get real better real soon.
Thanks mate - consultant says I'm likely to have problems for the rest
of my natural - though with the odd bit of corrective surgery here &
there, it should be better than it was :)
MichaelC
> Awww I hope things get better I remember the surgery you had before.
Thanks - the surgery's not too bad, I just want someone to make the pain
go away :)
MichaelC
> *shudder* that makes mine hurt just thinking about it... best of luck
> mate.
Thanks mate, the early results from the physio aren't that encouraging,
we'll see....
Stevo
> Thanks mate - consultant says I'm likely to have problems for the
> rest of my natural - though with the odd bit of corrective surgery
> here & there, it should be better than it was :)
Well that's good, 'cept for the occasional surgery.
Ben S.
> Thanks - the surgery's not too bad, I just want someone to make the
> pain go away :)
Oh the doctor can do that... or if you want a cheaper way... I'll bring
a bit mallet over. ;)
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pain
> go away :)
I found that, in my back surgeries, the painkillers worked wonderfully,
but the steroids and muscle relaxers actually diminished the pain
instead of masking it.....
It is easy to see how some people get 'reliant' on pain killers....
Ben S.
Funny... mine were constantly irritated for years, especially the left
one after the surgery. Maybe the past year of doing very little
finally gave it time to heal, because I can even run now without them
hurting like before. I'm trying to drop some more weight so they bug
me even less.
"Being only 10 pounds overweight increases the force on the knee by
30-60 pounds with each step."
Keep seeing stuff like that, and I no longer question why some days I
cringe while trying to climb stairs. I'm sitting at about 40lbs over
right now. So that's like an extra 100-200lbs of force on my poor,
already damaged knees. *sigh*
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Susan
> and so I have bits of cartilage
> floating in the joint - nice :)
>
Ouch. I hope they're able to repair it for you. : )
Ted Novak
Ouch. Feel for you bud. Years of hockey and general bad habits have
pretty much messed up my knees.
Was talking with a local female goal tender the other day and she
mentioned to me that they now have laser surgery for not-bad-yet joints.
Didn't have the time to chat to get more info. Anyone know anything
about this probable miracle?
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MichaelC
> Ouch. I hope they're able to repair it for you. : )
The cartilage bit will be easy - they'll just suck that out - not sure
about the reshaping of the back of the kneecap though <eeK>
MichaelC
> Well that's good, 'cept for the occasional surgery.
Oh I dunno - at least I'll get some recuperation time <g>
MichaelC
> Oh the doctor can do that... or if you want a cheaper way... I'll bring
> a bit mallet over. ;)
Actually before the last lot of surgery, I tried lots of painkillers -
none worked :(
Though, a bit mallet? Is that like a byte mallet, but smaller? ;)
MichaelC
> I found that, in my back surgeries, the painkillers worked wonderfully,
> but the steroids and muscle relaxers actually diminished the pain
> instead of masking it.....
>
> It is easy to see how some people get 'reliant' on pain killers....
mmmm, muscle relaxers <g>
I guess while I'm having physio, it wouldn't be a good idea to have the
pain masked - otherwise I wouldn't be able to tell if the physio was
working (which so far, it isn't) <g>
MichaelC
> Funny... mine were constantly irritated for years, especially the left
> one after the surgery. Maybe the past year of doing very little
> finally gave it time to heal, because I can even run now without them
> hurting like before. I'm trying to drop some more weight so they bug
> me even less.
Ah, so what you're saying is I should do nothing for a year? Sounds good
to me ;)
> "Being only 10 pounds overweight increases the force on the knee by
> 30-60 pounds with each step."
Oh yeah, thanks for *that* :-P
MichaelC
> Ouch. Feel for you bud. Years of hockey and general bad habits have
> pretty much messed up my knees.
Thanks - mine's just a natural knee alignment problem, apparently....
> Was talking with a local female goal tender the other day and she
> mentioned to me that they now have laser surgery for not-bad-yet joints.
> Didn't have the time to chat to get more info. Anyone know anything
> about this probable miracle?
Nope, not heard of that one - the keyhole surgery that I had before was
very quick & easy to recover from though..
Uwe Buckesfeld
> mmmm, muscle relaxers <g>
Beer is a great muscle relaxer.
U
Uwe Buckesfeld
> Nope, not heard of that one - the keyhole surgery that I had before was
> very quick & easy to recover from though..
Antje had a "lateral release" (google for it, except you aren't
sadistic) a couple of years ago and she'll need another this summer. They
didn't tell me I actually had to carry her upstairs after I managed to get
her stretched stiff leg into my Smart car. Tooks weeks. Yuck.
U
MichaelC
> Beer is a great muscle relaxer.
Yes, after a successful Sunday afternoon down the pub, I can quite agree ;)
MichaelC
> Antje had a "lateral release" (google for it, except you aren't
> sadistic) a couple of years ago and she'll need another this summer. They
> didn't tell me I actually had to carry her upstairs after I managed to get
> her stretched stiff leg into my Smart car. Tooks weeks. Yuck.
Don't need to google for it - that's what I had on both knees (bilateral
release) - was up an about in 2 weeks, and had no-one to look after me
either!
MichaelC
> Antje had a "lateral release" (google for it, except you aren't
> sadistic) a couple of years ago and she'll need another this summer.
Sorry to hear Antje needs another one though - that's a fairly strange
parallel :(
Susan
Uwe Buckesfeld
> Don't need to google for it - that's what I had on both knees (bilateral
> release) - was up an about in 2 weeks, and had no-one to look after me
> either!
Sure, but you are a man! You know women, they whine and moan all the time
<G>
U
MichaelC
> Sure, but you are a man! You know women, they whine and moan all the time
> <G>
LOL - I bet you typed that outside of plate-throwing range ;)
MichaelC
> Eek is right! Keep us posted on what's happening. : )
Will do :)
My physio's on holiday for Easter now, so I don't have an appt til near
the end of the month - then I've only got a few weeks until I'm back at
the consultant. Should know what the next action is by mid-May.....
Uwe Buckesfeld
> LOL - I bet you typed that outside of plate-throwing range ;)
No I didn't :-)
Seriously, it is a fact here.
U
MichaelC
> No I didn't :-)
Brave <g>
> Seriously, it is a fact here.
Other way around over here <g>
Stevo
> Oh I dunno - at least I'll get some recuperation time <g>
Also didn't think about attention from the nurses. ;-)
MichaelC
> Also didn't think about attention from the nurses. ;-)
Yes, there's that too - and the fact that the hospital I used last time
is like a hotel <g>
Ben S.
> Ah, so what you're saying is I should do nothing for a year? Sounds
> good to me ;)
Well... sorta. ;)
> Oh yeah, thanks for that :-P
Sorry mate, more pointing the finger at myself... if I guilt myself
enough I do something about it. :)
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Stevo
> Yes, there's that too - and the fact that the hospital I used last
> time is like a hotel <g>
Even better. <G>
MichaelC
> Even better. <G>
Yeah - the morning after, this nurse came in with my full English
brekkie, the newspaper and asked if I'd like the curtains pulling back.
All very nice <g>
MichaelC
LOL :)
MichaelC
> Well... sorta. ;)
Hey, close enough for me <g>
> Sorry mate, more pointing the finger at myself... if I guilt myself
> enough I do something about it. :)
Just don't include me in your guilt trip thankyouverymuch ;)
Stevo
> Yeah - the morning after, this nurse came in with my full English
> brekkie, the newspaper and asked if I'd like the curtains pulling
> back. All very nice <g>
'specially if she looks the way I'm imagining she does. ;-)
Ben S.
> Just don't include me in your guilt trip thankyouverymuch ;)
"Awww, comonbuddy... ya know I love ya big guy..."
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Ben S.
> 'specially if she looks the way I'm imagining she does. ;-)
How come I never get those nurses... granted your imagination could be
far better than the truth here. ;)
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Stevo
> How come I never get those nurses... granted your imagination could be
> far better than the truth here. ;)
I never get those kinda nurses either. <G>
MichaelC
> "Awww, comonbuddy... ya know I love ya big guy..."
Heh - sweet, thanks <g>
MichaelC
> 'specially if she looks the way I'm imagining she does. ;-)
Hey! You leave my nurse alone ;)
Stevo
> Hey! You leave my nurse alone ;)
so she's sassy, eh?
MichaelC
> so she's sassy, eh?
Of course, aren't they all? ;)
Stevo
> Of course, aren't they all? ;)
Some just more than others, eh? <G>
MichaelC
> Some just more than others, eh? <G>
Yeah, some ;)
Stevo
> Yeah, some ;)
Might need to check meself into a hospital soon for some research. ;-)
MichaelC
> Might need to check meself into a hospital soon for some research. ;-)
Just don't be taking my bed! <g>
Stevo
> Just don't be taking my bed! <g>
Well that hosp would be a *bit* far for me. <G>
MichaelC
> Well that hosp would be a *bit* far for me. <G>
My nurses are safe then <g>
Stevo
> My nurses are safe then <g>
From me anyway. ;-)
MichaelC
> From me anyway. ;-)
Uhuh, no-one else poses a threat <vbg>
Stevo
> Uhuh, no-one else poses a threat <vbg>
Well I don't really either. <G>
Stevo
> Yeah,
> riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight ;)
Have you seen a pic of me?
MichaelC
> Well I don't really either. <G>
Yeah, riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight ;)
MichaelC
> Have you seen a pic of me?
Ne'er mind that - you seen a pic of *me*? <vbg>
Boomer
> Ne'er mind that - you seen a pic of *me*? <vbg>
You guys aren't trying to do De Niro are you? It's really bad if you are.
Stevo
> Ne'er mind that - you seen a pic of me? <vbg>
That's an awful big bottle you're holding. <G>
MichaelC
> That's an awful big bottle you're holding. <G>
Yup, and it was a bargain too - 4.5l of pleasure <g>
MichaelC
> You guys aren't trying to do De Niro are you? It's really bad if you are.
<shame>
I have no idea what you're on about mate
</shame>
Stevo
> You guys aren't trying to do De Niro are you? It's really bad if you
> are.
You talkin' to me...........?
Stevo
> Yup, and it was a bargain too - 4.5l of pleasure <g>
poor poor liver <G>
MichaelC
> poor poor liver <G>
Haven't even started on it yet - had it for over a year too! Saving for
a special occasion, and drinking my Glenmorangie first ;)
Stevo
> Haven't even started on it yet - had it for over a year too! Saving
> for a special occasion, and drinking my Glenmorangie first ;)
You should be able to save it for a couple of special occasions. <G>
MichaelC
> You should be able to save it for a couple of special occasions. <G>
I'm thinking a Saturday night in front of the telly <g>
Stevo
> I'm thinking a Saturday night in front of the telly <g>
Why not? <G>
Jay Calderwood
> I'm thinking a Saturday night in front of the telly <g>
>
Oh How fun standing in front of a large purple monster from sesame street.
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MichaelC
> Why not? <G>
Exactly <g>
Stevo
> Exactly <g>
birds of a feather.............<G>
MichaelC
> birds of a feather.............<G>
....drink together? <g>
Stevo
> ....drink together? <g>
sure! <G>
MichaelC
> sure! <G>
Kewl :)
MichaelC
> Dunno if you folks remember, but about 3 years ago I had an operation on
> my knees to sort the kneecap alignments out?
>
> Well, I went back to the consultant last week because the pain's back -
> the kneecaps are rubbing the base of the femur on both legs again.
> Currently in for 2 months of physio and if that doesn't work, I'm back
> under the knife for a "rescoping" (I think this is where the back of the
> kneecap is scraped and the floating cartilage in the joint is removed).
And the news is in.....
After 2 months of physio, which didn't help, I'm going in for the op on
30th May. According to the op code I've been given, this is an
"Arthroscopic meniscectomy (including debridement) – bilateral", so both
knees, under general anaesthetic, in the hospital overnight, and 2 weeks
recovery time...
MichaelC
> "Arthroscopic meniscectomy (including debridement) – bilateral",
http://www.med.umich.edu/1libr/aha/aha_artmen_sma.htm
Stevo
Well sure hope everything goes well & you make a full recovery.
MichaelC
> Well sure hope everything goes well & you make a full recovery.
Thanks mate, I do too <g>
Shaun Pond
take care, hopalong...
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MichaelC
> take care, hopalong...
Thanks - doubtful there'll be any hopping going on for a while though ;)
Boomer
dan c.
Dan C.
MichaelC
> finally...someone I can compete with in a heiny-kicking contest.
<vbg>
Boomer
I wasn't saying I'd WIN....
MichaelC
> Hope you recover quickly, in better shape, this time. Sounds painful. :(
Thanks mate :)
After the op last time, the improvement was massive and lasted quite a
while - just a shame that the pain's back.
Still, if this one doesn't work, then there are other options available....
MichaelC
> I wasn't saying I'd WIN....
Good, good, cos then I'd know you were losing the plot <g>
Sewermonger
killers oramputation or complete recovery (or at least the best that is
possible under the circumstance) or knee replacement or knee transplant
or..... did I leave anything out?
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Susan
So, when is this happening? : )
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MichaelC
> You'll be just fine...I got "the feeling" :)
TMI perhaps? <g>
Nah, thanks - I've every confidence in my consultant, and last time I
was pretty much recovered in 2 weeks :)
MichaelC
> yeah... like getting used to the pain or getting addicted to pain
> killers oramputation or complete recovery (or at least the best that is
> possible under the circumstance) or knee replacement or knee transplant
> or..... did I leave anything out?
Yup, next in line would be a procedure to reshape the back of the
kneecap, add a plastic button to the kneecap & a metal strip to the
bottom of the femur....
Knee replacement isn't an option yet - I'm too young apparently.
Basically, the replacements only have a limited lifespan, which would
guarantee repeat surgery every few years - this way, by trying less
severe options first, we have more of a chance of preventing repeat
surgery....
MichaelC
> So, when is this happening? : )
"I'm going in for the op on 30th May" ;)
<g>
Danny Fabrizius
> And the news is in.....
> After 2 months of physio, which didn't help, I'm going in for the op on
> 30th May. According to the op code I've been given, this is an
> "Arthroscopic meniscectomy (including debridement) – bilateral", so both
> knees, under general anaesthetic, in the hospital overnight, and 2 weeks
> recovery time...
Oooooo...fun! NOT!
Good luck Michael!
MichaelC
> Oooooo...fun! NOT!
Oh I dunno - pretty nurses, nice food, change of scenery, shouldn't be
too bad <G>
> Good luck Michael!
Thanks mate :)
dan c.
arrive each day, are really his girlfriends! ;)
MichaelC
> You could be like Hugh Hefner! He imagines that those seven nurses, who
> arrive each day, are really his girlfriends! ;)
Oooh, now that would be something.....;)