Sneaking into Brainshare?
Zach Echlin
without a ticket? Does anyone check you for a ticket? Does anyone care
if you have a ticket or not?
Are there scalpers outside who will sell you tickets at discounted rate?
Can you find tickets in the garbage outside the event?
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Duane Fish
*That* would be just too funny to see! ;)
Jim Henderson
> Ticket Scalpers at BrainShare?
>
> *That* would be just too funny to see! ;)
I'm wondering what a paper BrainShare ticket even looks like. ;-)
Jim
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Kathryn Carruthers
before the swipe cards.
Patrick Farrell
Getting physical access to the main center would not be difficult, but
you have to swipe for each session and it checks your name against the
registration.
So theoretically, you could get some free food, play a few lan games,
and sit through the general sessions if you were crafty enough.
That's a lot of work and risk for very little return given the quality
of the food :)
Keith V. Klenke
that they dont see with the BS-collar, even stopping people who just
happened to have it under their jacket. I suppose you could sneak in, but
then you would have to have to steal someones badge so you can have it
scanned to get into the sessions, probably not as easy to get into those
without being noticed.
Or just claim you are linus tarvolds
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Zach Echlin
> That's a lot of work and risk for very little return given the quality
> of the food
What do you mean by the word "risk"?
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Patrick Farrell
> They have tons of people stationed at the regular entrances stopping anyone
> that they dont see with the BS-collar, even stopping people who just
> happened to have it under their jacket. I suppose you could sneak in, but
> then you would have to have to steal someones badge so you can have it
> scanned to get into the sessions, probably not as easy to get into those
> without being noticed.
>
> Or just claim you are linus tarvolds
>
Nah, just show up at registration day and hide overnight. Breakfast is
served in the morning so you're ok there. As long as you find a good
hiding spot to sleep, you could stay all week.
This is assuming of course that you don't snore loud :)
Zach Echlin
> that they dont see with the BS-collar
What do BS collars look like?
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What do these swipe cards look like? Are they programmed just like a
credit card is? More importantly is it based on magnetics?
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Could one hide above the ceiling tiles?
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Kathryn Carruthers
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Kathryn Carruthers
card in it to get into the sessions. It's like a little purse with a
clear pocket on the front. Any brainshare pictures would show them on
everyone.
Zach Echlin
similar looking security uniform and pose as security or crowd control.
Does Novell outsource their security?
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Craig
another convention, and hand make the paper insert.
Or you could 'apprehend' a visitor and "acquire" their badge. I recommend
Felton.
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Timothy Leerhoff
stopped at the door. This includes all attendees, vendors, and
employees.
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Zvika Davidowitz
Last year the card was paper (about double the size of a credit card).
Hopefully, next year Novell will return to the plastic credit size swipe
cards used in previous years.
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Zvika Davidowitz
> Nah, just show up at registration day and hide overnight. Breakfast is
> served in the morning so you're ok there. As long as you find a good
> hiding spot to sleep, you could stay all week.
I've noticed that they check the building very efficiently, before locking
the doors after the evening events.
Zvika Davidowitz
> have to swipe for each session and it checks your name against the
> registration.
You could probably get into the building claiming that you are heading
towards Registration. Would probably work for Sunday to Wednesday (not sure
how many new registrants come in on Thursday or Friday, if at all).
However, you would need something that looks like the current year
conference badge in order to enter the Food Hall (they don't swipe it, but
they want to see it in order to let you in).
You could probably sneak into the Food Hall, thru the Novell Downtown area.
> So theoretically, you could get some free food, play a few lan games, and
> sit through the general sessions if you were crafty enough.
IIRC, you can request a free pass to the Monday general session only.
> That's a lot of work and risk for very little return given the quality of
> the food :)
I strongly disagree about the quality of the food part.
Zvika Davidowitz
> It would probably be somewhat embarrassing to be kicked out.
That is probably not enough for someone who is even willing to exercise such
a thought about sneaking.
He already has an elephant's skin, so embarrassment would mean nothing to
him.
On the otherhand, if hiding in the ceiling as he suggested, the risk is of
course falling off and the medical charges that an injury would incur <g>
Danita
> On the otherhand, if hiding in the ceiling as he suggested, the risk is of
> course falling off and the medical charges that an injury would incur <g>
Remember - this is the US - he'd just sue the Salt Palace <g>.
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Susan
> It would probably be somewhat embarassing to be kicked out.
Actually, it would be somewhat bad for the professional reputation to
be arrested for trying to attend without payment.: )
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> how hard would it be to sneak into Brainshare
> without a ticket?
Pretty difficult, now that I've sent them your photo.
I thought you were the one who didn't want to have anything to do with
NetWare or Novell. So why are you even asking? : )
fgreen
tossed out?
>
Terry Rodecker
Nah, there's at least one former SysOp that makes it an annual
excercise. ;)
Susan
A reminder to you and everyone in here that it's illegal to attend an
event without paying the attendance fee. Criminal charges can result,
that can have an extremely bad effect on your professional life for
years to come. Breaking into an event that costs as much as BrainShare
is not a minor infraction of the law, it's grand theft in most
jurisdictions. : )
Susan
Ah, yes, I'd forgotten about him. : )
Susan
And who would that be? : )
Anders Gustafsson
> As a theoretical exercise, how hard would it be to sneak into Brainshare
> without a ticket?
I know who you should talk to.... :)
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Zach Echlin
> be arrested for trying to attend without payment.: )
That's why some of us keep Police Chief Theresa Garner on our payroll.
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> I thought you were the one who didn't want to have anything to do with
> NetWare or Novell. So why are you even asking? : )
I financially want nothing to do with Novell.
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Who's that?
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You can't get charged if you don't get caught.
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the event. Of course, one would have to have an accomplice to let them out.
http://www.saltpalace.com/downloads/Package_Labels.pdf
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Zvika Davidowitz
> A reminder to you and everyone in here that it's illegal to attend an
> event without paying the attendance fee. Criminal charges can result,
I think this is needless to mention, moreover to address it to "everyone",
as if "everyone" on this forum is stupid enough to even think about
executing such a scheme.
Why would a grown-up professional person want to try to sneak into an event
without paying?
And if someone does try and succeeds, he probably suffers from some sort of
personality disturbance that will result in waiving the criminal charges
against him in favor of psycho appropriate treatment.
> Breaking into an event that costs as much as BrainShare
> is not a minor infraction of the law, it's grand theft in most
> jurisdictions. : )
Actually, the contrary, Brainshare *doesn't* cost much for what it provides.
Zvika Davidowitz
You could probably easily enter the Salt Palace thru one of the side
entrances (Avarvanel Exhibition) during the week before Brainshare, posing
as one of the preparation team workers. But then you would have to hide and
sleep in the Palace for over a week, and remember - there is NO FOOD during
the preparations week before Brainshare.
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Ron
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> and remember - there is NO FOOD during the preparations week before
> Brainshare.
Well, worse for the rest of us, I'm not sure where the showers are (although
I assume in a venue such as that there are some "back stage" spots with such
amenities). I'd hate to be around Zack after a few days - he'd make the
"reporter" seem rosy <g>.
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Zvika Davidowitz
> Well, worse for the rest of us, I'm not sure where the showers are
> (although
> I assume in a venue such as that there are some "back stage" spots with
> such
> amenities). I'd hate to be around Zack after a few days - he'd make the
> "reporter" seem rosy <g>.
Well, he can try washing himself in the disabled restroom...... <g>
Terry Rodecker
A mis-appropriated box of t-shirts comes to mind. ;)
Zach Echlin
I did some research and found that most of ceilings are 20 foot high.
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but he never followed through.
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Patrick Farrell
I was waiting for the official disclaimer :)
Patrick Farrell
ANd then it would wind up on the show "America's stupidest criminals"
Patrick Farrell
Are we talking about Darl McBride? :)
Patrick Farrell
Not to mention, who is going to pay for hotel and airfare and then not
pay for the conference :)
I make a point to sneaking into places. Like Movies. I pay for the
ticket but then see if I can get into the film without actually having
to present it :) I like the challenge :)
Zvika Davidowitz
> Not to mention, who is going to pay for hotel and airfare and then not pay
> for the conference :)
1) Maybe the guy lives in Salt Lake, so he doesn't have to incur any airfare
or hotel.
2) If he intends to sleep over hiding inside the Salt Palace, then at least
he will save the hotel expenses.
3) Hotel and Airfare amount to about 50% of the expenses, depending on where
you come from. So, by sneaking in he saves between $ 1000 (Gold Partners) to
$ 1795 (full price without any discounts), not an amount to be disregarded.
I can't believe we are discussing such a subject: A network professional,
probably with a higher than average income as a professional, is publicly
considering to sneak into a technical conference without paying. Something
is *wrong* in a person that even brings such a subject to public discussion.
Are we adult professionals or teenage kids?
> I make a point to sneaking into places. Like Movies. I pay for the
> ticket but then see if I can get into the film without actually having to
> present it :) I like the challenge :)
1) I don't see any "challenge" in this. For me its a simple NO.
2) In our country this would be a felony, because you would be sneaking thru
the security checks before entering any public building.
Patrick Farrell
are you? It's a little light hearted fun :)
Tom Hafemann
Reason, logic, and common sense are chromosomes missing from many Americans. Humor is a recessive gene. (speaking as an American). Case in point. I went to get gas at a gas station (not Taco Bell), and filled my vehicle. At the end I needed change for a $50. I asked for one $20 and two $10 and two $5. She said that she did not have it and said, "how about two $20 and three $10?" The computer couldn't help her make change.
As far as "sneaking" in, sure you could do it. Better yet, steal a badge.
Remember, we are Whitehat people, not Blackhats.
Tom
>>> Patrick Farrell<p...@packereng.com> 10/1/2005 12:48:13 pm >>>
Tom Hafemann
3 previously used Novell registration pouches with namecards and barcodes. Will fool any $5.75 "security" person. May not fool scanning stations.
But Act now, I'll throw in a Novell bag and other "BLING" at no extra cost. (Bling, see previous posts..HAHAHAHA)
Best offer.
Tom
(Just kidding folks)
>>> Zach Echlin<zachary...@comcast.net> 9/30/2005 3:27:40 pm >>>
As a theoretical exercise, how hard would it be to sneak into Brainshare
without a ticket? Does anyone check you for a ticket? Does anyone care
if you have a ticket or not?
Are there scalpers outside who will sell you tickets at discounted rate?
Can you find tickets in the garbage outside the event?
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Rainer Backes
break in their systems. So be assured I'm on the 'white' side and this
hopefully might help increase BS security.
Reading through all the post, I found two weak points in BS security:
- Back entrance(s). At the back of the Brainshare lab, hidden by a
courtain, there are large doors, which are open most of the time to let
the smokers get what they need.
- the elevator from the parking under the Salt Palace: this leads
directly into the hallway near south lobby. I haven't seen anybody
watching the people leaving this elevator.
BUT:
Without a badge, entrance into a session is nearly impossible. One
could imitate a badge with the inlay card (color printer, quite easy)
so access to food, the lab and general session as well as free
transportation and the evening activities would be possible.
To defend such an attack, security would need handheld scanners with
databases of valid barcodes and an online connection to check for
doublettes.
Zvika Davidowitz
> - Back entrance(s). At the back of the Brainshare lab, hidden by a
> the smokers get what they need.
I also think that the Northern entrances are quite leaky - the side entrance
from opposite the Plaza Hotel (not the main door to the Developer zone) and
the north entrance just by the side of the Prime Hotel.
> To defend such an attack, security would need handheld scanners with
> databases of valid barcodes and an online connection to check for
> doublettes.
I would deem it impractical to scan every time you enter the Palace.
As most of the entrances are through the South Entrance and the East Main
Entrance (opposite the Marriot) that would mean queues entering the Palace,
and think about it if the weather outside is bad.
I think that to impose such a scanning system at the entrances to the Palace
just for the sake of 1 or 2 jerks that might try to sneak in, would be an
overkill and annoying to most attendees (having to line up in order to be
scanned). Think about it, the queues might be ten times that of the lines to
Laura's sessions, because all attendees have to pass thru two or three
entrances.
I always try to compare the impact of such an event in our country - Every
attendee entering will have to have his backpack opened and checked and he
should pass thru a metal detector similar to airports. This is a regular
procedure upon entering any public building or train station in our country.
So, having 7000 attendees entering the Palace in the morning would create an
0.5 hour queue on the outside.
I wonder how the Americans haven't thought about that as a lesson from 9/11
and the London-Madrid terror attacks.
I definitely feel somewhat insecure as there don't seem to be any security
measures taken at the Salt Palace in this respect.
Keith V. Klenke
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Patrick Farrell
> Perhaps novell should contract some israeli security forces?
>
Tell you what, let them fix the wifi network first and then we can worry
about security.
I can't believe there were that many "admins" who had ad-hoc networks
setup with the same SSID as the official brainshare network as there
were last year.
Rainer Backes
That brings me to another idea:
What about implementing RFID-Tags in the card/ticket/badge ? This would
make copying it (with a color printer) impossible and avoiding long
queues for the sessions, because such tags can be scanned from the
distance (up to 2 m - for the americans: 6 foot ;-) ).
Yes, agreed, it would be quite impractical and unconvienient to the
paying attendees to implement entrance scanning with barcodes and laser
scanners. And that just to catch 1 or 2 jerks, who would not pay for
the entrance, so the only loss is some food.
But the idea to use RFIDs instead of barcodes for entering the
sessions, is quite good, because it avoids all the trouble with the
scanners. That might be a solution for the next years, not to prevent
jerks, but to make the session entrance easier.
To security at all: For me it seems to be impossible to check all the
people entering BS. All (or at least most) have their laptops whit
them, so you would have to check each and every bag and computer and
all those other devices, we techies are carrying with us. I allways
hope that the places I go are not attactive enough for terrorists.
... Hey, if someone is reading this... tought about EDGE ?? (just
kidding !!)
Zvika Davidowitz
Excellent suggestion.
I doubt if they will implement it for the coming Brainshare, however as you
mentioned - for the coming events.
I hope Novell can be innovative and fast enough to implement RFIDs at
Brainshare 2007 before M$ introduces it into TechShare.
> To security at all: For me it seems to be impossible to check all the
> people entering BS. All (or at least most) have their laptops whit
> them, so you would have to check each and every bag and computer and
> all those other devices, we techies are carrying with us. I always
> hope that the places I go are not attractive enough for terrorists.
You can never know what is "attractive" for OBL and his followers, and a
dozen other terror organizations.
You can never predict where and when such an attack will come, unless you
feel secure enough like some crazy drivers on the road claiming "it will
never happen to me".
I agree it is impossible to check all the people entering BS and their bags
for security, without creating a major disturbance to the event.
That is why security checks should be made *discriminative*, like in our
country. I know it sounds *bad* to Americans, however you have to admit that
the risk comes from a distinctive group of people that can be identified by
their looks or from their country of origin.
So, yes, when you enter a public mall in Israel - everyone gets checked,
however the check is *very* *different* for normal looking people and
Mid-Eastern or Muslim looking people. You can eventually say that normal
looking people don't get checked at all (only a short 1 second glimpse at
their backpack and a short 1 second scan with a manual metal detector,
nothing that upholds the crowds). Same, btw, goes when you enter a public
parking lot and your car baggage gets checked.
Meanwhile, I hope the Great Mormon Church across the street is looking after
our security at the Salt Palace <g>
Zach Echlin
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Who are you calling a jerk?
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>
> Who are you calling a jerk?
Anyone who tries to sneak into Brainshare, obviously. Hmm, 'jerk' might be
considered a personal attack against persons unknown, perhaps 'criminal'
would be better as a statement of fact?
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>> > 1 or 2 jerks that might try to sneak in
>>
>> Who are you calling a jerk?
>
> Anyone who tries to sneak into Brainshare, obviously.
Anyone who thinks he deserves to get for free by way of crooked means
something (like Brainshare) that is worked for so hard (by Novell) and yet
others (normal attendees) are paying to enjoy.
Zach Echlin
it another way.
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Timothy Fitch
>>> Patrick Farrell<p...@packereng.com> 9/30/2005 6:07:20 PM >>>
Sent: Thursday, October 06, 2005 3:14:43 PM
To: novell.community.brainshare; novell.community.chat
Subject: Re: Sneaking into Brainshare?
> As a theoretical exercise, how hard would it be to sneak into Brainshare
> without a ticket? Does anyone check you for a ticket? Does anyone care
> if you have a ticket or not?
>
> Are there scalpers outside who will sell you tickets at discounted rate?
> Can you find tickets in the garbage outside the event?
>
> Zach Echlin
Getting physical access to the main center would not be difficult, but
you have to swipe for each session and it checks your name against the
registration.
So theoretically, you could get some free food, play a few lan games,
and sit through the general sessions if you were crafty enough.
That's a lot of work and risk for very little return given the quality
of the food :)
Rainer Backes
ask such a question at the Brainshare forum.
I see it like the discussion bedween us network administrators how to
break into our own systems (see Laura's sessions): this helps focusing
on the weak spots and may help finding new solutions which might even
improve the 'user friendlyness'.
Zvika Davidowitz
I found your suggestion about using RFID tags the most inspiring and
innovative.
I do hope Novell can pick the glove and implement such a security, identity
and session entrance system for 2007.
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Susan
I'm afraid I don't remember his name. Foreign tech reporter who was
pretty much so inebriated that he couldn't walk. : )
Susan
Trust me, you'd get caught. Security is pretty high. And I'm
absolutely dead serious about providing them with a watch list,
including photos, to make sure no one in this thread gets in without
full payment. : )
Susan
Not the same as breaking into BrainShare without paying. : )
Susan
Not the same jurisdiction, so nothing that person could do for you. : )
Susan
Once again, then why are you here? : )
Susan
And so you weren't disappointed. : )
Susan
The assumption is that anyone who knows the information doesn't pertain
to them should be mature enough to just simply ignore it and not find
it in the least unusual, and those who don't, should pay heed to it. :
Susan
And let me clarify, "No one in this group who tries to sneak in"....
Zvika Davidowitz
> Trust me, you'd get caught. Security is pretty high. And I'm
> absolutely dead serious about providing them with a watch list,
> including photos, to make sure no one in this thread gets in without
> full payment. : )
Do you know this guy Zach?
From where do you have a photo of him?
Can you fill us in regarding this chap and his motivations, as you seem to
have an acquaintance with him?
IIRC, this is the first thread in this forum that you are actively
participating and so emotionally involved in. So, I have a hunch that you
know this person and his motivations. Can you fill us in?
> to make sure no one in this thread gets in without
> full payment. : )
1) I think this is insulting to the rest of the participants in this thread,
as it is obvious no one has such crooked intentions.
2) Many of us, including myself, never pay the *full* price. There are
always special discounts (groups, partner, etc)
3) I trust that if someone tries to sneak in, he will not use his real name
or the nick name he used on this thread ;-)
Keith V. Klenke
http://www.mbtmag.com/lnwp/midday.asp?midday=true&url=http://www6.lexisnexis.com/publisher/EndUser?Action=UserDisplayFullDocument%26orgId=539%26topicId=12084%26docId=l:316547787&datesuffix=1062005
why not do it for bs2006?
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Susan
In the United States there is a specific monetary value over or under
which theft is considered either petty larceny or grand theft. Those
are both legal terms, related to a dollar figure value based on ticket
price, in a case like this, not on a perceived value. : )
Susan
Novell Support Forums SysOp
Susan
> Not to mention, who is going to pay for hotel and airfare and then not
> pay for the conference :)
>
Indeed. And once in jail, there's probably not much chance of getting a
refund on hotel or airfare. <G>
Susan
> Of course, one would have to have an accomplice to let them out.
I'll let you out, Zach. I'd be happy to help in that regard. I'll get
the security folks to help open the box. <G>
Susan
Yes, I know Zach. If you look at the header of his message, you'll see
that it was cross-posted in 2 different Novell forums, one of which is
a chat forum where Zach has been active for quite some time.
Yes, I know Zach likes to stir things up sometimes, which I suspect was
his reason for posting his message.
As for the rest, I'm sorry you've chosen to take something as an
insult. That's too bad, but I've no control how you choose to take
anything. You seem to be interpreting things in an extremely literal
way. That's not often the best way to view things in a fluid place
like a chat forum. : )
Zvika Davidowitz
> refund on hotel or airfare. <G>
He could get a refund for the hotel. Once he is in jail, he can call the
hotel to cancel the remaining of his reservation. The maximum penalty will
be one night.
As for the airfare, that depends on the class of ticket he purchased. Some
tickets allow for re-scheduling the return flight without penalty and some
with a $ 50 re-scheduling charge.
Zvika Davidowitz
> speaking of rfid -
> http://www.mbtmag.com/lnwp/midday.asp?midday=true&url=http://www6.lexisnexis.com/publisher/EndUser?Action=UserDisplayFullDocument%26orgId=539%26topicId=12084%26docId=l:316547787&datesuffix=1062005
>
> why not do it for bs2006?
Well, quoting from the article you posted the link to : "The team plans to
commercialize the technology, ....... , in the first half of 2006, according
to Cho".
So, the cheap ink-jet RFID technology will not be available for March 2006
and it needs to be tested by the Brainshare organizing team prior to that
date ;-)
Zvika Davidowitz
I was being cynical, definitely not literal ;-)
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"Susan" <nscv.sys...@myrealbox.com> wrote in message
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> Zvika:
>
> There you go, being so literal again. : )
Susan
There you go, being so literal again. : )
Susan
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Zvika Davidowitz
world.
All I said was that Brainshare *doesn't* cost much for what it provides, and
again, being cynical, I may have left out the <g>
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Marcel Cox
> I'm afraid I don't remember his name. Foreign tech reporter who was
> pretty much so inebriated that he couldn't walk. : )
It was a German reporter left over from the Winter Olympics and he used
his press pass to gain entrence to "Meet the experts". Some German
SysOps and I had a short talk with him. Later, he was just sleeping on
a chair somewhere. I don't really think there was anything "tech" about
him :-)
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Zvika Davidowitz
Or maybe he thought he will find some chick skiers or cheer leaders left
over from the Olympics? <G>
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"Marcel Cox" <cim...@myrealbox.com> wrote in message
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Marcel Cox
> The food? Some free Brainshare beer?
I guess so. He really looked (and smelled) like a homeless. My guess is
he was trying to prolong his stay in SLC at zero cost and therefore was
using Brainshare just as a way to get free food.
Zvika Davidowitz
thread.
The discussion that was started here is not about a homeless sneaking in in
order to look for some leftovers, but rather a technical person trying to
sneak into Brainshare primarily in order to take advantage of the technical
proceedings and breakout sessions and not just the food and social events.
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Danita
> I would deem it impractical to scan every time you enter the Palace. As
> most of the entrances are through the South Entrance and the East Main
> Entrance (opposite the Marriot) that would mean queues entering the
> Palace, and think about it if the weather outside is bad.
In Barcelona this year there were security screenings - had to have our bags
(and badges) checked just about every time we came in the door.
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Danita
> IIRC, this is the first thread in this forum that you are actively
> participating and so emotionally involved in.
BTW = most of this thread has been cross-posted to novell.community.chat,
where Susan is the official moderator :) - so while she's not participated
in the brainshare newsgroup much, she is quite active in the other group
where this is posted (and actually in that group her word is law <g>).
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Paul Lamontagne
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>>> On 10/11/2005 at 12:01 pm, in message
<gemini.io7dvg0a...@no-spam-caledonia.net>,
Danita
> I even thought I heard behind me the snap of a rubber glove .:-)
Heehee
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Zvika Davidowitz
> In Barcelona this year there were security screenings - had to have our
> bags
> (and badges) checked just about every time we came in the door.
As I mentioned I'm used to it from our country, where you get screened and
scanned entering any restaurant, pub, bus station, bank office, etc.
*However* the amount of attendees at BS SLC is almost more than 5 times that
of BS Barcelona. Would it be practical to screen them all thru 2 main active
entrances (South and East / Marriot)? And how about the addicted smokers
that go out and in rather frequently? (Btw - was smoking allowed inside the
conference hall in Barcelona or did the smokers have to go out?)
Paul Lamontagne
outside the door)
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>>> On 10/11/2005 at 1:17 pm, in message
<GsS2f.7059$GG4....@prv-forum2.provo.novell.com>, Zvika
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