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James Hayward
May 2, 2012, 2:23:53 PM5/2/12
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Hi All
Sorry for the extremely sort notice, but the board meeting is being
put back to next week as we are missing a few board members and I
haven't managed to get an agenda up!
Sorry
James
Sorry for the extremely sort notice, but the board meeting is being
put back to next week as we are missing a few board members and I
haven't managed to get an agenda up!
Sorry
James
deejak
May 8, 2012, 12:07:35 PM5/8/12
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Tomorrow's Board Metting Agenda:
Although I am unable to be present at the deferred meeting tomorrow, I'd be interested if there could be a discussion regarding progress of advertising material.
There has been a lot of chat, not not a lot of obvious action.
My 'draft' flyer (copy attached), intended specificatlly for distribution to town-centre mini-market 'community notice boards' to attract 'apartment dwellers' has vanished. It was intended to trigger some discussion regarding the text to use, and then be available for distribution, but I have heard no more.
Is this a similar situation to the anonymous box in the Blue Room containing bookmarks, which I had to search out (and label) last wednesday, in order to be able to hand something to interested visitors?
David Clarke
Although I am unable to be present at the deferred meeting tomorrow, I'd be interested if there could be a discussion regarding progress of advertising material.
There has been a lot of chat, not not a lot of obvious action.
My 'draft' flyer (copy attached), intended specificatlly for distribution to town-centre mini-market 'community notice boards' to attract 'apartment dwellers' has vanished. It was intended to trigger some discussion regarding the text to use, and then be available for distribution, but I have heard no more.
Is this a similar situation to the anonymous box in the Blue Room containing bookmarks, which I had to search out (and label) last wednesday, in order to be able to hand something to interested visitors?
David Clarke
Dominic Morrow
May 8, 2012, 12:34:27 PM5/8/12
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This is what I mean when I say done is the engine of more. David you should go ahead with this as you see fit.
As I recall it all got bogged down with some ethical printers that was supposed to be looked into and never was.
This was Marcus' action. Care to respond Marcus?
Dominic
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> <AdvertForMetroStores.pdf>
As I recall it all got bogged down with some ethical printers that was supposed to be looked into and never was.
This was Marcus' action. Care to respond Marcus?
Dominic
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Jake Howe
May 8, 2012, 12:47:00 PM5/8/12
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Hey David,
I have the copy of the flyer that was floating around, I was under the impression I had been asked to spruce it up a bit? It is sat waiting for me to look at.
Apologies if that is not the case, I was meaning to contact you off list to ask for the file so I could copy and paste the text?
In terms of flyers, I am waiting back on several quotes regarding several hackspace related things.
Although the flyer for the open day is somewhat more urgent. After finding out that no one else had sorted that flyer, and not stepping in earlier so as to give someone else a chance to help out. That is also on my list of things to sort. I was planning to work on that this evening/tomorrow morning, more than happy to work on Davids flyer as well (if he wants that).
In terms of the bookmarks, I arranged getting those printed, and pointed out where they were on the mailing list.
I am happy to take more of an initiative on publicity, but I was under the impression that task was assigned to a board member, and did not want to go too 'rule 3' on it.
There is also supposed to be some sort of marketing team I am on. I am not saying 'Someone has not done what they were supposed to' just getting things up to date so we can put a suitable system in place.
Jake
> <AdvertForMetroStores.pdf>
I have the copy of the flyer that was floating around, I was under the impression I had been asked to spruce it up a bit? It is sat waiting for me to look at.
Apologies if that is not the case, I was meaning to contact you off list to ask for the file so I could copy and paste the text?
In terms of flyers, I am waiting back on several quotes regarding several hackspace related things.
Although the flyer for the open day is somewhat more urgent. After finding out that no one else had sorted that flyer, and not stepping in earlier so as to give someone else a chance to help out. That is also on my list of things to sort. I was planning to work on that this evening/tomorrow morning, more than happy to work on Davids flyer as well (if he wants that).
In terms of the bookmarks, I arranged getting those printed, and pointed out where they were on the mailing list.
I am happy to take more of an initiative on publicity, but I was under the impression that task was assigned to a board member, and did not want to go too 'rule 3' on it.
There is also supposed to be some sort of marketing team I am on. I am not saying 'Someone has not done what they were supposed to' just getting things up to date so we can put a suitable system in place.
Jake
Dominic Morrow
May 8, 2012, 12:55:16 PM5/8/12
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It's my province but I use a sub team which you are a major part of Jake please feel empowered to carry on just get sign off on any expenditure.
Dominic
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Jake Howe
May 8, 2012, 1:03:06 PM5/8/12
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I think the Open day should also be discussed, especially in regards to leaflets, and distribution.
If we need to go to the ethical print place then that needs to happen pretty much as soon as I have produced artwork. However the bigger issue then is to get the flyers out to the people.
Considering the open day is not far away this is priority. It really should have been done and sorted a month ago, with flyers in hand.
Jake
On 8 May 2012, at 17:07, deejak wrote:
> <AdvertForMetroStores.pdf>
If we need to go to the ethical print place then that needs to happen pretty much as soon as I have produced artwork. However the bigger issue then is to get the flyers out to the people.
Considering the open day is not far away this is priority. It really should have been done and sorted a month ago, with flyers in hand.
Jake
On 8 May 2012, at 17:07, deejak wrote:
Dominic Morrow
May 8, 2012, 1:08:03 PM5/8/12
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I agree with you very much Jake this should have been done a month ago. I blame myself.
Dominic
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Jake Howe
May 8, 2012, 1:17:47 PM5/8/12
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Actually, I had left it with Marcus to sort, as he was sorting the open day, and had got the specifics on where to get it printed etc.
Not sure I ever talked with you about the open day flyers Dominic.
You are as much to blame as me. For not checking it had been done/acting on it.
Jake
Not sure I ever talked with you about the open day flyers Dominic.
You are as much to blame as me. For not checking it had been done/acting on it.
Jake
James Hayward
May 8, 2012, 2:34:03 PM5/8/12
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David, are you happy for this to be discussed here, as I think it is actually progressing more here than it would at a board meeting!
J
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deejak
May 8, 2012, 7:51:33 PM5/8/12
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No problem at all.
My sample was for a specific 'target market' and I was simply looking for suggested text to add / remove, before being able to produce the necessary few myself.
The issue seems to have spread to include the matter of flyers for the Open Day, which is now urgent.
Any comments (regarding text) for me to use resulting from the board meeting today welcome. Considerations of style and design may have to wait for flyer Mk II.
David Clarke
My sample was for a specific 'target market' and I was simply looking for suggested text to add / remove, before being able to produce the necessary few myself.
The issue seems to have spread to include the matter of flyers for the Open Day, which is now urgent.
Any comments (regarding text) for me to use resulting from the board meeting today welcome. Considerations of style and design may have to wait for flyer Mk II.
David Clarke
Marcus
May 8, 2012, 9:05:56 PM5/8/12
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> Actually, I had left it with Marcus to sort, as he was sorting the open day, and had got the specifics on where to get it printed etc.
Jake, I've been waiting for you (you sent me an email on 30 Apr
regarding this).
Marcus
Marcus
May 8, 2012, 9:30:07 PM5/8/12
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> As I recall it all got bogged down with some ethical printers that was supposed to be looked into and never was.
It was! We've made a contact (George from the Community Print
Resource) who has offered to train some hackspace members to use the
risograph so we can do very cheap print runs, on a self-service
basis. It's 2p per-colour per-sheet (they use recycled paper, or we
can bring our own), plus £1.50 per master. His contact details and
more info is here:
http://www.veggies.org.uk/directory/detail-106-168.htm
Jake Howe
May 9, 2012, 3:22:50 AM5/9/12
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With all due respect Marcus, the flyer was initially discussed on the 11-17th of March. I mentioned that I could produce a flyer, suggested an idea for printing them, (getting base flyers printed, then overprinting specific details on our laser).
You also introduced the idea of using the print resource. You also specified about making initial designs at the open day planning meeting (which I could not attend).
I had then (obviously wrongly) assumed the flyers were being organised and sorted, and tried not to interfere too much and focus on exhibiting at the open day;
On the 28th of April, more than a month later, I asked if the flyers had been produced, this time offering to put one together more specifically.
I also asked for someone to send me specific details. Opening times, confirmed interesting things etc. (Yesterday evening I plain guessed the opening times, and copied to body text from the bookmark.)
A couple of days later you sent me the details of the location of the print resource, which would be 40 minutes walk for me to get to, and 30 minutes to then walk back to the hackspace (on the back of an hours journey to get to Nottingham). You explained you were away for a week, so were unable to get to the print place at that point.
With no further offers of help on the wiki, and you away for a week, I penned in to work on the flyer for the open day last night, so we could have a quick look at the board meeting.
So in future Marcus, do not try and make it look like the flyer has been waiting on me on the public list.
It might be nice instead if you said 'Thanks for jumping in and helping sort this out Jake'
Now, can we focus on actually getting some flyers sorted?
(going to reply to the flyer thread in regards to moving forwards)
You also introduced the idea of using the print resource. You also specified about making initial designs at the open day planning meeting (which I could not attend).
I had then (obviously wrongly) assumed the flyers were being organised and sorted, and tried not to interfere too much and focus on exhibiting at the open day;
On the 28th of April, more than a month later, I asked if the flyers had been produced, this time offering to put one together more specifically.
I also asked for someone to send me specific details. Opening times, confirmed interesting things etc. (Yesterday evening I plain guessed the opening times, and copied to body text from the bookmark.)
A couple of days later you sent me the details of the location of the print resource, which would be 40 minutes walk for me to get to, and 30 minutes to then walk back to the hackspace (on the back of an hours journey to get to Nottingham). You explained you were away for a week, so were unable to get to the print place at that point.
With no further offers of help on the wiki, and you away for a week, I penned in to work on the flyer for the open day last night, so we could have a quick look at the board meeting.
So in future Marcus, do not try and make it look like the flyer has been waiting on me on the public list.
It might be nice instead if you said 'Thanks for jumping in and helping sort this out Jake'
Now, can we focus on actually getting some flyers sorted?
(going to reply to the flyer thread in regards to moving forwards)
Dominic Morrow
May 9, 2012, 3:37:25 AM5/9/12
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Ok people... I'm in Bristol so please help guide each other to make the next step happen.
Dominic
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Marcus
May 9, 2012, 10:40:02 AM5/9/12
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OK, the open day flyers are being discussed in another thread.
David: I really like your flyer and would be happy to help distribute
them. In the long term, I want to get some responsibly printed
materials - ideally using salvaged paper, which we have masses of in
the blue room, and environmentally friendly inks. Your design would
need to be modified for the risograph, so are you happy for me to use
the text from your flyer to create one under a creative commons
license, so members of this hackspace (and others) can use it and
tailor it?
David: I really like your flyer and would be happy to help distribute
them. In the long term, I want to get some responsibly printed
materials - ideally using salvaged paper, which we have masses of in
the blue room, and environmentally friendly inks. Your design would
need to be modified for the risograph, so are you happy for me to use
the text from your flyer to create one under a creative commons
license, so members of this hackspace (and others) can use it and
tailor it?
deejak
May 9, 2012, 11:09:08 AM5/9/12
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Marcus,
I don't think distribution is an issue - I'm quite happy to take this on myself; I brought this to the space to get input from others concerning the wording, mainly, as I'm not confident enough in creative writing to simply go ahead unchallenged. How many people got to see it? and were there any suggestions regarding the wording?
I don't think you need to re-do this one for the Risograph (isn't Jake doing this anyway?) - a relatively small number (compared to general and event flyers) is required, and, subject to approval, I can print them myself.
I agree, though, that using such a machine may offer green, eco(logical) and eco(nomical) benefits; however lets be careful in balance these issues - the 'free' paper we have in stock is not the kind normally used for Risograph, so may have to be used via some other process, and the paper for the 'cheap' printing will have to be paid for.
David Clarke.
I don't think distribution is an issue - I'm quite happy to take this on myself; I brought this to the space to get input from others concerning the wording, mainly, as I'm not confident enough in creative writing to simply go ahead unchallenged. How many people got to see it? and were there any suggestions regarding the wording?
I don't think you need to re-do this one for the Risograph (isn't Jake doing this anyway?) - a relatively small number (compared to general and event flyers) is required, and, subject to approval, I can print them myself.
I agree, though, that using such a machine may offer green, eco(logical) and eco(nomical) benefits; however lets be careful in balance these issues - the 'free' paper we have in stock is not the kind normally used for Risograph, so may have to be used via some other process, and the paper for the 'cheap' printing will have to be paid for.
David Clarke.
Jake Howe
May 9, 2012, 11:35:56 AM5/9/12
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Yeah, I did some work on making Davids flyer letterpress/single colour friendly last night. Still needs a little more work though.
In terms of the Riso, I have actually used/operated one of these before. I assume we would have to operate it as well as paying for so much per copy?
(re you mentioning people needing training)
What we need to do is decided on a production method for future flyers.
These are the suggestions I think we could discuss at the board meeting.
1. Printed by a print works in the UK, using a FSC printer (http://www.fsc.org/about-fsc.html)
2. On the Risographs at the copy shop Marcus recommended.
3. Produced in house, using our own mini copy shop (a project me and David are sort of working on, but its waiting for me to get my hands on laserable rubber stamp material)
All three options would result in a single colour green leaflet to hand out. With a bit of a 'home made' feel.
If we want anything more than that, a print works is our only option (like the bookmarks)
If we need something simpler, do what kate does and churn some out on our laser printers (50 A5 type quantities)
Jake
Marcus
May 9, 2012, 11:45:49 AM5/9/12
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Hi David,
The risograph uses ordinary paper, so we can use our stock.
I think your text is really well written. Are you happy for us to put
that text on the wiki..?
http://wiki.nottinghack.org.uk/wiki/Promotional_materials
The risograph uses ordinary paper, so we can use our stock.
I think your text is really well written. Are you happy for us to put
that text on the wiki..?
http://wiki.nottinghack.org.uk/wiki/Promotional_materials
deejak
May 9, 2012, 1:13:15 PM5/9/12
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Marcus,
I would still prefer to know that it had been at least viewed by more people than it seems to have been seen by (I mean the original hardcopy, not the version I emailed).
If the board / more than just one person / agrees that it is good enough as it stands, I cannot see any reason why I shouldn't continue with my orioginal plan of printing (colour laser) the small number required myself.
David Clarke
(In a rush now, I may not make it in at all tonight)
I would still prefer to know that it had been at least viewed by more people than it seems to have been seen by (I mean the original hardcopy, not the version I emailed).
If the board / more than just one person / agrees that it is good enough as it stands, I cannot see any reason why I shouldn't continue with my orioginal plan of printing (colour laser) the small number required myself.
David Clarke
(In a rush now, I may not make it in at all tonight)
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