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Martin Raynsford  
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 More options May 21 2012, 4:26 pm
From: Martin Raynsford <msraynsf...@googlemail.com>
Date: Mon, 21 May 2012 21:26:14 +0100
Local: Mon, May 21 2012 4:26 pm
Subject: Re: [Nottinghack] Nottinghack Village EMF Camp

I guess they save £1000 on cleaning the toilets by dedicated volunteers who
nab themselves free tickets for the weekend, although it is a thankless
task.

I think 2 pints per person per day is a bit high, especially at £3 a pint,
unless you're saying people aren't allowed to bring their own beer.

Fencing seems like an odd £2K requirement, are you planning to have many
backstage areas? There was a remarked lack of fencing at the Newcastle
maker faire and that was open to the public, can't you persuade people to
be nice, they are all paying to be there and unlikely to want to trash that
tent over there.

Minibus + 4x4? £1300, again couldn't you persuade someone with a large
vehicle to do runs on Friday and Sunday for free entry? At our events the
shuttle only runs at start and end, anyone in the middle makes alternate
arrangements.

£4K on generic shiny might be a tad ambitious for a first festival, surely
the people coming make the festival awesome.

These won't all work for you obviously but just a quick glance at the
budget. If you want to speak to this other organiser he said he was happy
to do so (but at the start of the project I figured you wouldn't be poised
to ask the right questions)

On 21 May 2012 21:07, Adrian Godwin <artgod...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Indeed, so if anyone knows of cheaper suppliers, or areas where we're
> overengineering in the belief that we have to do things for legal
> reasons, we could do with it pointing out.

> -adrian

> On Mon, May 21, 2012 at 9:03 PM, Dominic Morrow <nottingh...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > I'm guessing it has a lot to do with experience.

> > Sent from my iPhone

> > On 21 May 2012, at 21:00, Adrian Godwin <artgod...@gmail.com> wrote:

> >> Martin, please get on the mailing list and look at the budget
> >> spreadsheet. We're very willing to hear how we can reduce the costs.

> >> -adrian

> >> On Mon, May 21, 2012 at 8:51 PM, Martin Raynsford
> >> <msraynsf...@googlemail.com> wrote:
> >>> I attend 4 LRP events a year run by a very professional outfit who set
> up a
> >>> computer network in a field provide excellent food services,
> toiletries and
> >>> clean warm showers amongst other things. And they do all of that for
> £55 a
> >>> weekend and we get 2 fields and don't pay for parking, I guess the
> other
> >>> £140 for a festival goes on artists and not on cleaning the portaloos.

> >>> On 21 May 2012 20:45, BuLLeT <bullet.h...@gmail.com> wrote:

> >>>> I think £100 is a really good price for an organised camping weekend
> with
> >>>> lots of activities arranged with plenty of like minded people. This is
> >>>> coming from a music festival goer who pays uptown £200 for a weekend
> event,
> >>>> infact I'm not going to any music festivals this year just so I can
> come
> >>>> here.
> >>>> Plus with more early adopters this year there is more chance of this
> >>>> carrying on each year whilst getting bigger and better.

> >>>> Unless anything major happens I'm going, van and one spare seat if
> the boy
> >>>> doesn't.
> >>>> Oh yea, we don't need showers, everyone will smell just as bad as each
> >>>> other by Sunday afternoon.

> >>>> Tom 'Nondo X ' Gwynne

> >>>> On May 21, 2012 10:23 AM, "Dominic Morrow" <nottingh...@gmail.com>
> wrote:

> >>>>> I'm pretty sure it'll be about £100 I'm also pretty sure it won't go
> over
> >>>>> that. I think it will be safe to assure ticket plus parking will be
> £100

> >>>>> Sent from my iPhone

> >>>>> On 21 May 2012, at 10:16, James Hayward <jhayward1...@gmail.com>
> wrote:

> >>>>> Do we know the actual ticket costs yet? That's at the top of my
> budget,
> >>>>> but still 80% going!

> >>>>> On May 21, 2012 10:04 AM, "Matt Lloyd" <dps....@gmail.com> wrote:

> >>>>>> I'm still going if I can get a lift.

> >>>>>> 'RepRap' Matt
> >>>>>> Sent from my iPhone 4

> >>>>>> On 21 May 2012, at 10:01, Dominic Morrow <nottingh...@gmail.com>
> wrote:

> >>>>>> I've been following the EMF camp threads on their mailing list.

> >>>>>> Do folk realise its going to cost about £100 per ticket for the 3
> days
> >>>>>> and that parking will be extra?

> >>>>>> I'd like to get a good feel for who will be going along. Seems like
> a
> >>>>>> lot of money to me. I'll probably go still but I know Nottinghack
> and
> >>>>>> attendance can be poor at our own events let alone one where it's
> the better
> >>>>>> part of a ton in a field somewhere?!

> >>>>>> Please note I'm not trying to put people off I'd genuinely like to
> get a
> >>>>>> feel for numbers?

> >>>>>> DM

> >>>>>> Sent from my iPhone

> >>>>>> On 28 Apr 2012, at 00:06, Kate Bolin <katebo...@gmail.com> wrote:

> >>>>>> I was going to make a Village page for us on their wiki, but I got
> this
> >>>>>> error when I tried to register:

> >>>>>> Your IP address is listed as an open proxy in the DNSBL used by
> >>>>>> Electromagnetic Field.

> >>>>>> Someone else wanna make the page?

> >>>>>> On Sat, Apr 28, 2012 at 12:05 AM, Kate Bolin <katebo...@gmail.com>
> >>>>>> wrote:

> >>>>>>> I'm definitely in if I can get there. I'm guessing the White Van
> convoy
> >>>>>>> will have space for one more person?

> >>>>>>> Also, I am buying this tent:

> http://www.leisureoutlet.com/camping-and-outdoors/tents/four-person-t...

> >>>>>>> Which will totally make Nottingham Hackspace the coolest village
> >>>>>>> around.

> >>>>>>> And I'll make a new page for this on our wiki to just make sure we
> get
> >>>>>>> shit together.

> >>>>>>> On Fri, Apr 27, 2012 at 8:55 PM, Dominic Morrow
> >>>>>>> <nottingh...@googlemail.com> wrote:

> >>>>>>>> Hello Folks

> >>>>>>>> 1st off I'd like to gauge interest in the EMF camp that will be
> >>>>>>>> happening outside of Milton Keynes in early September

> >>>>>>>> http://wiki.emfcamp.org/wiki/Electromagnetic_Field_2012

> >>>>>>>> I'm keen that we, Nottinghack, the UK's 2nd largest Hackspace in
> terms
> >>>>>>>> of members, Europe's largest Hackspace (probably) and the WORLDS
> BEST
> >>>>>>>> hackerspace should have our own villiage at this event...

> >>>>>>>> http://wiki.emfcamp.org/wiki/Villages

> >>>>>>>> If someone has the wiki fu and more importantly the time and the
> >>>>>>>> inclination could they please create a "Nottinghack Village" page
> on the EMF
> >>>>>>>> wiki... also we should have the same info on our wiki... It's
> time to start
> >>>>>>>> planning our EMF invasion force. We'll need to create a community
> of our
> >>>>>>>> own. I think we should certainly take a barrel of excellent
> Magpie brewery
> >>>>>>>> ale!

> >>>>>>>> I'm interested to know who already intends to go. I'll be taking
> my
> >>>>>>>> van so will have a large space to move stuff as well as one spare
> seat for
> >>>>>>>> the journey!

> >>>>>>>> --
> >>>>>>>> Dominic
> >>>>>>>> Nottingham Hackspace Organiser
> >>>>>>>> For more information about the Hackspace please visit us at
> >>>>>>>> www.nottinghack.org.uk

> >>>>>>> --
> >>>>>>> Kate Bolin
> >>>>>>> www.katebolin.com

> >>>>>> --
> >>>>>> Kate Bolin
> >>>>>> www.katebolin.com


 
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