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Dominic Morrow  
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 More options Aug 21 2012, 5:34 am
From: Dominic Morrow <nottingh...@gmail.com>
Date: Tue, 21 Aug 2012 10:34:47 +0100
Local: Tues, Aug 21 2012 5:34 am
Subject: Re: [Nottinghack] EMF Food and Beer plan

How is £3.10 cheaper than pub prices? That's IS pub prices... unless you
live in London lol.. Martin are you offering to take charge? I do think we
need a co-ordinator and I feel you just volunteered for the job! He He!

Dominic

On 21 August 2012 10:21, Martin Raynsford <msraynsf...@googlemail.com>wrote:

> I had no intention of buying all my food and drink from the site vendors
> but I think the hackspace plans have got confused somewhere between buying
> and selling burgers to attendees and chipping in to buy food for ourselves.
> The wiki suggests we need £300 of food and that we should be selling it for
> £2 a time. I feel like I missing parts of the conversation but all I have
> to work with it's what's written down, I asked for more detail about all
> our plans yesterday but all I got was confirmation that the things I
> thought were happening were correct.

> We're told the space has no money and will not be contributing especially
> because it's only a fraction of members going which means that this £300 is
> coming from us? and now we're told about the food  "for which we all need
> to club in for anyway"

> I suggest we keep it simple, we come up with an actual plan then we ask
> people questions about that plan. It's 10 days to go, let's decide what we
> want to do and ditch the half baked plans.

> From my previous discussion I was under the impression that people would
> be invited to join group food, chipping in £10 or so. Somebody would take a
> trip to the butchers and come back with food for those people. We'd all eat
> well and anything extra would be left open for people to donate with. So
> budget is set by the number of people who want to partake.

> This system also works with alcohol, but is much more complicated because
> of the varieties.

> The price per pint is currently set at £3.10 (according to the emf budget
> spreadsheet).

> On 21 August 2012 09:52, Dominic Morrow <nottingh...@gmail.com> wrote:

>> I've never said anything about selling beer, or even really selling food
>> for that matter. I DO NOT want to have a sign up that says "Sausages £2" or
>> anything like that.... I think that people will get the idea they can have
>> some food if they chip in. Just like in Hackspace. I think it's only fair
>> that a tiny amount of money is made. I am not suggesting anything as formal
>> as the arrangement or expectation you'd have with a vendor.

>> I felt it might be a nice idea to have food going and if people want some
>> invite them to contribute to cost... I know that sounds like a sneaky but
>> to be honest I don't want to get ALL my food and ALL my drink from the site
>> vendors. I'll be taking a supply of beer for myself (I'll still buy beer on
>> site) which will be £3 a pint I am certain. Food from vendors, sure... but
>> TBH it'll be expensive and I'd rather make village food... for which we all
>> need to club in for anyway.

>> I'll ask Jonty what he thinks about it.

>> Dominic

>> On 21 August 2012 09:41, Matt Lloyd <dps....@gmail.com> wrote:

>>> There's a note about food standards on the vendros team page
>>> http://wiki.emfcamp.org/wiki/Team/Vendors

>>> and from the FAQ
>>> http://wiki.emfcamp.org/wiki/FAQ

>>> Will there be food?
>>> We expect that most people will bring their own food. That said, we will
>>> try to organise some basic food stalls, and some villages may be
>>> offering food as well.
>>> If you're interested in selling food at the camp please get in touch
>>> with our Vendors team!

>>> I'm quite happy to buy my beer at emf to support the cause ;)

>>> 'RepRap' Matt

>>> On 21 Aug 2012, at 09:30, James Hayward <jhayward1...@gmail.com> wrote:

>>> I'll investigate your points about food, but we won't be selling any
>>> drinks. I'm fairly sure Dominic was talking about bringing beer for
>>> himself!

>>> J
>>> On Aug 21, 2012 9:22 AM, "Martin Raynsford" <msraynsf...@googlemail.com>
>>> wrote:

>>>> Now is probably a good time to mention some potential issues with
>>>> selling food and beer. I'm prepared to be corrected on all cases but don't
>>>> want people to spend money without acknowledging this.

>>>> I assume there will be burger vans and proper food vendors on site.
>>>> They will have hygiene certificates which is probably a lawful requirement
>>>> when it comes to selling food for money. They'll probably be rather peeved
>>>> to discover they're being undercut but people who don't confirm to these
>>>> requirements.

>>>> Selling beer for cash without a license is illegal. Not to mention that
>>>> the bar is one of the few profitable areas at EMF.This profit may well be
>>>> going to cover some of the expenses for the rest of the weekend should they
>>>> not sell enough tickets etc, so undercutting the bar is going to annoy the
>>>> organisers.

>>>> On 21 August 2012 08:57, MarkP <markphelan....@gmail.com> wrote:

>>>>> My friend is a butcher who also does catering and has very kindly
>>>>> offered us the following:

>>>>> 150 large burgers
>>>>> 150 sausages
>>>>> 150 burger rolls
>>>>> 150 hot dog rolls
>>>>> Sack of onions

>>>>> He's said he can do all this for £135 and I can probably borrow a
>>>>> large cool box from him to store it.
>>>>> In terms of delivering stuff, I presume things like food are best
>>>>> taken straight to Milton Keynes however I can't get down there until Friday
>>>>> afternoon and only have a ticket for Saturday. The food is coming from
>>>>> Birmingham so if it's needed before then and anyone is able to collect it
>>>>> Thursday night then we can probably arrange that. Unfortunately I'm away in
>>>>> Cirencester all week so can't drop it off.

>>>>> Let me know if you want to take him up on the offer so he can order
>>>>> the stuff, sounded like a good price to me.

>>>>> Mark


 
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