Silly question about Mac installation

[Anna Sheridan]

I've given in and bought the cutest new MacBook Pro 13". It is my
first Mac and everything Mac is therefore new to me. I want to install
NoteCase Pro on it. Instruction says that I need to register and
download Xcode. I just thought I double check - do I really need this
750MB monster, and will the Xcode 3.2.1 (the only offered on the site)
work with my Mac Os X 10.5.8? Say yes, and I will do it :-) just need
confirmation that I am on the right track here...
Cheers,
Anna

[Miro]

Hi Anna,

the steps for installing the Mac OS X 10.5.x were contributed by
Daniel Hertrich who used
exact steps as described in the help to install Notecase successfully
on the OS X.
You really need this because it contains compiler needed to compile
gtk2 package
that is being installed in the steps after this one.
If you would be able to find precompiled (binary) gtk2 package for OS
X somewhere,
you could omit this step.
In the past, I've looked into this package, but it didn't work with me
at that time: http://www.gtk-osx.org/
(I notice this package is still at the same old version as when I
tested it).

Anyway, I am interested in your feedback so I can update the
instructions.

Regards,
Miro

PS. If the Xcode takes too much space, you can probably remove it
after the successful installation.

[Daniel H]

Hi Anna,
I am Daniel Hertrich, whom Miro is referring to.

Yes, you need Xcode for installing GTK+ from sources.
Since 10.5.8 is the current Mac OS version, the current downloadable
XCode-version should be the correct one.
However, Xcode should also be supplied with your Mac on an
installation DVD. At least for me it was the case (Macbook, bought in
Nov. 2006).

Installing Xcode has more advantages. Together with Macports, you have
an additional huge variety of Linux software available for your Mac,
together with an automated way of downloading sources, resolving
dependencies and compiling right on your Mac.
For example, you can just enter "sudo port install gimp" to install
the free Photoshop alternative "The Gimp".
Visiting the MacPorts homepage will give you an idea about what
applications are available that way:
http://www.macports.org/ports.php


daniel

[Anna Sheridan]

Allright, I am almost there...
Installed Xcode from the DVD included with my Mac. Installed gtk
library (you were right, it takes a long time). Downloaded NoteCase
Pro. Double clicking on the archive file opens subfolder structure.
Double clicking on the notecase.x11app opens NoteCase Pro. But:
I am getting a message that license key file not found. It is looking
for it in /usr/share/doc/notecase/
When I copy the licence key there it is still not recognised. I am
assuming this is the /usr/share/doc/notecase/ path of the unzipped
archive. Does it matter where it is unzipped (ie the path before the /
usr)?
I know this is more Mac than NoteCase question, but I'd appreciate any
help.

[Miro]

> When I copy the licence key there it is still not recognised. I am
> assuming this is the /usr/share/doc/notecase/ path of the unzipped
> archive. Does it matter where it is unzipped (ie the path before the /
> usr)?

The license key path is supposed to be absolute path, not relative ro
the unzipped archive. You can try alternative location, copying the
key file to the same folder where executable is.

Notecase executable is fine wherever you start it from, but it might
not be able to open help file automatically from there. But you can
always open help manually.

Regards,
Miro

[marbux]

It sounds like you launched the app from within the archive, yes? If
so, this would explain why NC Pro couldn't find the registration key.
You haven't yet installed the app and its required files.

If this was the case, you need to extract all files from the archive
with the unzip option set to maintain the archived file's path names.
Then launch the app using the OS X normal app launching routine rather
than from within the archive. The install license key control should
then work as expected.

But please bear in mind this is advice from a non-Mac user. :-)

Best regards,

Paul

--
Universal Interoperability Council
<http:www.universal-interop-council.org>

[Anna Sheridan]

> The license key path is supposed to be absolute path, not relative ro
> the unzipped archive. You can try alternative location, copying the
> key file to the same folder where executable is.

Ehhh MIro, Miro... you are forgetting how smart you really are. All I
needed to do was to go to Help--Install License and browse to the
license file. All is working well now.
To reply to Paul - double clicking on the archive unzipped the files
with their folder structure. But I had to copy the key file from my
other computer manually, and wasn't sure where to place it. But it
looks like it can be anywhere, as long as I point the program to it.

Thank you everyone for your help!
Anna

[Miro]

> Ehhh MIro, Miro... you are forgetting how smart you really are. All I
> needed to do was to go to Help--Install License and browse to the
> license file. All is working well now.
> To reply to Paul - double clicking on the archive unzipped the files
> with their folder structure. But I had to copy the key file from my
> other computer manually, and wasn't sure where to place it. But it
> looks like it can be anywhere, as long as I point the program to it.
>
> Thank you everyone for your help!
> Anna

Glad you've made it :)

You've reminded me that I need to rewrite the website instructions
to include the "Install License" step.

Miro

[Anna Sheridan]

> You've reminded me that I need to rewrite the website instructions
> to include the "Install License" step.

It may also be a good idea to involve someone who knows more about X11
applications and installation. From what quick reading I am doing on
the net (pretending that I am working...), the application will run
from anywhere on the system by doubleclick, but needs to be installed
properly (from Terminal window) if the user wants to add this
application in X11 terminal window, under applications pull down menu,
or run it from command prompt.
Also, if I run NoteCase this way and minimise it, I can't find it
again. Clicking on X11 icon in the deck brings only its terminal
window, not NoteCase. It is a small snag, but a snag nevertheless.

[Miro]

> It may also be a good idea to involve someone who knows more about X11
> applications and installation. From what quick reading I am doing on
> the net (pretending that I am working...), the application will run
> from anywhere on the system by doubleclick, but needs to be installed
> properly (from Terminal window) if the user wants to add this
> application in X11 terminal window, under applications pull down menu,
> or run it from command prompt.
> Also, if I run NoteCase this way and minimise it, I can't find it
> again. Clicking on X11 icon in the deck brings only its terminal
> window, not NoteCase. It is a small snag, but a snag nevertheless.

Actually this is more related to OS X than to the X11.
If anyone has a tip for OS X installer and setup of X11 applications,
I'm all ears.
I'll try to dig the solution on the Internet in the meantime :)

[Daniel H]

Hi Miro,

I have no experiences with that myself, but maybe this is a starter:

http://developer.apple.com/mac/library/documentation/DeveloperTools/Conceptual/SoftwareDistribution/Introduction/Introduction.html

and maybe this:
http://digital-sushi.org/entry/how-to-create-a-disk-image-installer-for-apple-mac-os-x/


daniel

[Miro]

Thanks, I'll look into this.

Miro

On Oct 22, 3:41 pm, Daniel H <dhertr...@googlemail.com> wrote:
> Hi Miro,
>
> I have no experiences with that myself, but maybe this is a starter:
>

> http://developer.apple.com/mac/library/documentation/DeveloperTools/C...
>
> and maybe this:http://digital-sushi.org/entry/how-to-create-a-disk-image-installer-f...
>
> daniel

[marbux]

Hi, all,

I'm working on the Help file's Installation section. For the Mac
users, I'd be appreciative if if someone might take a look at the
screen grab on this page and tell me which optional XCode packages
should be installed to persuade Notecase Pro to install.
<http://developer.apple.com/mac/library/documentation/Xcode/Conceptual/XcodeCoexistence/Contents/Resources/en.lproj/Basics/Basics.html#//apple_ref/doc/uid/TP40006599-CH4-SW2>.

Also, I presume the OS X 10.3.9 support option should be checked if if
someone is running that version of OS X. Correct?

Appreciate any assistance here.