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Subject: Re: Next session -- Hands on with Riak?
From: chuck clark <ccl...@ziclix.com>
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Awesome. Thanks to Saem and Tavis for all the legwork on getting it setup.
How about if we shoot for getting together at Pulse a week from tomorrow,
November 15th at 6:00?
So you'd suggest everyone have Virtual Box ready to run so they can download
the image you created and we can run from there?
thanks,
chuck
On Sun, Nov 7, 2010 at 3:40 PM, saem <saemgh...@gmail.com> wrote:
> NoSQL Hands-On: Riak Scheduling
>
> So an AWS image and a snapshot, with the data, exist for people to
> use, Tavis and I got that sorted a few nights back. I've got a VM in
> VirtualBox up and running, I just need to load the dataset into the
> the cluster. Then run through some basics, so there are a at least a
> few people aware of the API.
>
> Basics being:
>
> * Map/Reduce
> * Links
> * V-clocks
>
> There are a few items that I'm still not entirely clear as to how to
> cover -- though, I'm not sure we'll get that far.
>
> * Tune r,w,dw values
> * Joining and leaving the cluster
>
> I think that's about all the preparation that we need, I'd like to
> have others dive in, and see where we get. That being the case, and
> seeing as you're hosting, would you like to determine a schedule?
>
>
> On Oct 31, 9:46 pm, saem <saemgh...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > Apologies for the the tardy reply. That sounds like a plan, we're
> > going to need at least one walk through. There are a number of basic
> > data related problems to tackled that I came up with, but they get
> > rather same-y, quickly. There is also the entire DevOps, and
> > performance tuning side, so at the very least a pilot run would be a
> > very good idea.
> >
> > On Oct 31, 7:38 pm, cclark <chuck.cl...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > > So what are the thoughts on starting to move forward with a Riak hack-
> > > a-thon?
> >
> > > We can meet at the Pulse Energy offices tomorrow and start playing
> > > around with what Saem, Tavis, Geoff and Simon have cooked up so far.
> > > My gut tells me it might take two sessions to get as far as we want so
> > > we might as well get started.
> >
> > > Unfortunately I have a family commitment a little later in the evening
> > > and will have to dodge out early but if we do meetup Jerry will be
> > > around and the space can stay open later so the fun can continue.
> >
> > > thoughts?
> >
> > > chuck
> >
> > > On Oct 27, 11:15 pm, Simon Claret <scla...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > > Hi Saem,
> >
> > > > I should have some time tomorrow afternoon, if not at 5pm then
> > > > starting at 5:30 or 6. I don't know what you guys have done so far
> > > > but I'm happy to help set things up.
> >
> > > > Cheers,
> >
> > > > Simon
> >
> > > > Mobile: 778 230 4513
> >
> > > > On Wed, Oct 27, 2010 at 10:44 PM, saem <saemgh...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > I have a free evening tomorrow (I'll be starting at 5:00), and will
> > > > > hopefully be getting things better organized for Riak hacking.
> >
> > > > > I'm going to be at Agro Coffee shop (
> http://www.agrocafe.org/locations/
> > > > > yaletown.php), with a possible venue move (to be determined at
> 6:15).
> > > > > Feel free to get in touch with me by emailing me directly (see:
> 'Reply
> > > > > to author' link below), I get it on my phone so I can get back to
> you
> > > > > quickly, I can also pass along my phone number that way.
> >
> > > > > On Oct 18, 10:10 pm, saem <saemgh...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > >> Tavis, Geoff, and I got together tonight, the result:
> >
> > > > >> The AMI is in better shape, we understand the data, and we got
> Riak up
> > > > >> and running. It's just a matter of some polish, and then we can
> push a
> > > > >> 'canonical' form of the data into one of Riak's buckets -- flat
> > > > >> namespaces that it supports. This should be a good starting point
> for
> > > > >> people to start reworking it into any other schema they want. It's
> > > > >> pretty close to the point where people can clone the AMI and have
> a
> > > > >> useful environment. Another possibility I'm considering is pulling
> > > > >> down part of the data set locally and then running it that way
> (yay,
> > > > >> for a Linux laptop), and possibly just creating a simple
> VirtualBox
> > > > >> image. Which should run decently on people's laptops, etc.
> >
> > > > >> Tomorrow is 'Why haskell matters?' put on by the Vancouver
> Functional
> > > > >> Programming Unmeetup, and the day after is the JS meetup with
> WebGL, I
> > > > >> think both Travis and I are in dispose, so looks like Thursday
> might
> > > > >> be when we next pick this up.
> >
> > > > >> On Oct 18, 3:16 pm, saem <saemgh...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > > >> > I think 6PM at Agro Cafe in Yaletown (
> http://maps.google.com/maps?
> > > > >> > f=q&hl=en&geocode=&time=&date=&ttype=&q=1207+Hamilton+Street
> > > > >> >
> +vancouver&sll=37.0625,-95.677068&sspn=45.197878,71.894531&ie=UTF8&z=16&iwl
> oc=addr&om=1)
> > > > >> > should be a decent meeting spot, as currently most of the people
> who
> > > > >> > said they're coming will be in the area already. At 615PM we
> might
> > > > >> > move if the venue doesn't work out -- if that's the case and you
> can't
> > > > >> > find us, just email me directly via the list (Smart Phone FTW),
> or
> > > > >> > call if you have my number.
> >
> > > > >> > On Oct 18, 8:36 am, David Dossot <da...@dossot.net> wrote:
> >
> > > > >> > > I'm turning into the master of lousy excuses but... tonight
> Agile Vancouver
> > > > >> > > is having a presentation<
> http://www.agilevancouver.ca/2010/09/estimating-the-sociological-effe..
> .>that
> > > > >> > > seems very interesting...
> >
> > > > >> > > :)
> >
> > > > >> > > On Sun, Oct 17, 2010 at 9:57 PM, Tavis Rudd <
> tavis.r...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > >> > > > Saem, Geoff and I got started on prepping an EBS of a subset
> of the
> > > > >> > > > data today. I'm up for something informal tomorrow night
> continuing
> > > > >> > > > the prep work. Anyone else interested?
> >
> > > > >> > > > On Oct 17, 1:01 pm, chuck clark <ccl...@ziclix.com> wrote:
> > > > >> > > > > I definitely don't think we're ready for the Riak session
> tomorrow
> > > > >> > > > because
> > > > >> > > > > I'm sure most people haven't yet looked at the Riak Fast
> Track. And it
> > > > >> > > > > sounds like we're starting to get a little bit light for
> next Monday.
> > > > >> > > > I'm
> > > > >> > > > > also not confident yet we'd be ready for a Riak session
> next Monday.
> > > > >> > > > > Unfortunately there is another internal event happening
> at the Pulse
> > > > >> > > > Energy
> > > > >> > > > > offices tomorrow but I like the idea of an informal
> session to get an AMI
> > > > >> > > > > with Riak and EBS volumes ready. That way we can be sure
> we're ready two
> > > > >> > > > > weeks from now.
> >
> > > > >> > > > > The Pulse offices are available on Wednesday this week
> otherwise if
> > > > >> > > > Monday
> > > > >> > > > > works out best for everyone we could pick a coffeeshop
> with WiFi or
> > > > >> > > > another
> > > > >> > > > > office is someone else can host.
> >
> > > > >> > > > > thanks,
> > > > >> > > > > chuck
> >
> > > > >> > > > > On Sun, Oct 17, 2010 at 12:41 PM, geoff webb <
> geoffnettagl...@gmail.com
> > > > >> > > > >wrote:
> >
> > > > >> > > > > > Hi Folks
> >
> > > > >> > > > > > I'd be keen on tomorrow, Oct 18th to, even if just to
> help with prep
> > > > >> > > > > > and planning/setup.
> >
> > > > >> > > > > > I am in Australia from Oct 22nd - Nov 7th so will most
> likely miss the
> > > > >> > > > > > real-deal hands-on session *sigh*.
> >
> > > > >> > > > > > Geoff
> >
> > > > >> > > > > > On Fri, Oct 15, 2010 at 11:31 AM, Tavis Rudd <
> tavis.r...@gmail.com>
> > > > >> > > > wrote:
> > > > >> > > > > > > hmm, I'd also like to attend that -> so, +1 for this
> Monday. Even if
> > > > >> > > > > > we're
> > > > >> > > > > > > not ready for a dedicated hack session by then we
> could use the time
> > > > >> > > > to
> > > > >> > > > > > > finish the prep work. Once we have the data ebs and
> an ami, we
> > > > >> > > > should be
> > > > >> > > > > > > ready for doing view/edit count aggregration across
> time slices.
> >
> > > > >> > > > > > > On Thu, 14 Oct 2010, David Dossot wrote:
> >
> > > > >> > > > > > >> 25th is no-go for me as I really want to attend
> VanDev's
> > > > >> > > > presentation on
> > > > >> > > > > > >> Lean/Kanban.
> >
> > > > >> > > > > > >> D.
>
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Awesome. =A0Thanks to Saem and Tavis for all the legwork on getting it setu=
p.<div><br></div><div>How about if we shoot for getting together at Pulse a=
week from tomorrow, November 15th at 6:00?</div><div><br></div><div>So you=
'd suggest everyone have Virtual Box ready to run so they can download =
the image you created and we can run from there?</div>
<div><br></div><div>thanks,</div><div>chuck<br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quot=
e">On Sun, Nov 7, 2010 at 3:40 PM, saem <span dir=3D"ltr"><<a href=3D"ma=
ilto:saemgh...@gmail.com">saemgh...@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blo=
ckquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #c=
cc solid;padding-left:1ex;">
NoSQL Hands-On: Riak Scheduling<br>
<br>
So an AWS image and a snapshot, with the data, exist for people to<br>
use, Tavis and I got that sorted a few nights back. I've got a VM in<br=
>
VirtualBox up and running, I just need to load the dataset into the<br>
the cluster. Then run through some basics, so there are a at least a<br>
few people aware of the API.<br>
<br>
Basics being:<br>
<br>
* Map/Reduce<br>
* Links<br>
* V-clocks<br>
<br>
There are a few items that I'm still not entirely clear as to how to<br=
>
cover -- though, I'm not sure we'll get that far.<br>
<br>
* Tune r,w,dw values<br>
* Joining and leaving the cluster<br>
<br>
I think that's about all the preparation that we need, I'd like to<=
br>
have others dive in, and see where we get. That being the case, and<br>
seeing as you're hosting, would you like to determine a schedule?<br>
<div><div></div><div class=3D"h5"><br>
<br>
On Oct 31, 9:46=A0pm, saem <<a href=3D"mailto:saemgh...@gmail.com">saemg=
h...@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
> Apologies for the the tardy reply. That sounds like a plan, we're<=
br>
> going to need at least one walk through. There are a number of basic<b=
r>
> data related problems to tackled that I came up with, but they get<br>
> rather same-y, quickly. There is also the entire DevOps, and<br>
> performance tuning side, so at the very least a pilot run would be a<b=
r>
> very good idea.<br>
><br>
> On Oct 31, 7:38=A0pm, cclark <<a href=3D"mailto:chuck.cl...@gmail.c=
om">chuck.cl...@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
> > So what are the thoughts on starting to move forward with a Riak =
hack-<br>
> > a-thon?<br>
><br>
> > We can meet at the Pulse Energy offices tomorrow and start playin=
g<br>
> > around with what Saem, Tavis, Geoff and Simon have cooked up so f=
ar.<br>
> > My gut tells me it might take two sessions to get as far as we wa=
nt so<br>
> > we might as well get started.<br>
><br>
> > Unfortunately I have a family commitment a little later in the ev=
ening<br>
> > and will have to dodge out early but if we do meetup Jerry will b=
e<br>
> > around and the space can stay open later so the fun can continue.=
<br>
><br>
> > thoughts?<br>
><br>
> > chuck<br>
><br>
> > On Oct 27, 11:15=A0pm, Simon Claret <<a href=3D"mailto:scla...=
@gmail.com">scla...@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
><br>
> > > Hi Saem,<br>
><br>
> > > I should have some time tomorrow afternoon, if not at 5pm th=
en<br>
> > > starting at 5:30 or 6. =A0I don't know what you guys hav=
e done so far<br>
> > > but I'm happy to help set things up.<br>
><br>
> > > Cheers,<br>
><br>
> > > Simon<br>
><br>
> > > Mobile: 778 230 4513<br>
><br>
> > > On Wed, Oct 27, 2010 at 10:44 PM, saem <<a href=3D"mailto=
:saemgh...@gmail.com">saemgh...@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
> > > > I have a free evening tomorrow (I'll be starting at=
5:00), and will<br>
> > > > hopefully be getting things better organized for Riak h=
acking.<br>
><br>
> > > > I'm going to be at Agro Coffee shop (<a href=3D"htt=
p://www.agrocafe.org/locations/" target=3D"_blank">http://www.agrocafe.org/=
locations/</a><br>
> > > > yaletown.php), with a possible venue move (to be determ=
ined at 6:15).<br>
> > > > Feel free to get in touch with me by emailing me direct=
ly (see: 'Reply<br>
> > > > to author' link below), I get it on my phone so I c=
an get back to you<br>
> > > > quickly, I can also pass along my phone number that way=
.<br>
><br>
> > > > On Oct 18, 10:10=A0pm, saem <<a href=3D"mailto:saemg=
h...@gmail.com">saemgh...@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
> > > >> Tavis, Geoff, and I got together tonight, the resul=
t:<br>
><br>
> > > >> The AMI is in better shape, we understand the data,=
and we got Riak up<br>
> > > >> and running. It's just a matter of some polish,=
and then we can push a<br>
> > > >> 'canonical' form of the data into one of Ri=
ak's buckets -- flat<br>
> > > >> namespaces that it supports. This should be a good =
starting point for<br>
> > > >> people to start reworking it into any other schema =
they want. It's<br>
> > > >> pretty close to the point where people can clone th=
e AMI and have a<br>
> > > >> useful environment. Another possibility I'm con=
sidering is pulling<br>
> > > >> down part of the data set locally and then running =
it that way (yay,<br>
> > > >> for a Linux laptop), and possibly just creating a s=
imple VirtualBox<br>
> > > >> image. Which should run decently on people's la=
ptops, etc.<br>
><br>
> > > >> Tomorrow is 'Why haskell matters?' put on b=
y the Vancouver Functional<br>
> > > >> Programming Unmeetup, and the day after is the JS m=
eetup with WebGL, I<br>
> > > >> think both Travis and I are in dispose, so looks li=
ke Thursday might<br>
> > > >> be when we next pick this up.<br>
><br>
> > > >> On Oct 18, 3:16=A0pm, saem <<a href=3D"mailto:sa=
emgh...@gmail.com">saemgh...@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
><br>
> > > >> > I think 6PM at Agro Cafe in Yaletown (<a href=
=3D"http://maps.google.com/maps" target=3D"_blank">http://maps.google.com/m=
aps</a>?<br>
> > > >> > f=3Dq&hl=3Den&geocode=3D&time=3D&a=
mp;date=3D&ttype=3D&q=3D1207+Hamilton+Street<br>
> > > >> > +vancouver&sll=3D37.0625,-95.677068&ss=
pn=3D45.197878,71.894531&ie=3DUTF8&z=3D16&iwl oc=3Daddr&om=
=3D1)<br>
> > > >> > should be a decent meeting spot, as currently =
most of the people who<br>
> > > >> > said they're coming will be in the area al=
ready. At 615PM we might<br>
> > > >> > move if the venue doesn't work out -- if t=
hat's the case and you can't<br>
> > > >> > find us, just email me directly via the list (=
Smart Phone FTW), or<br>
> > > >> > call if you have my number.<br>
><br>
> > > >> > On Oct 18, 8:36=A0am, David Dossot <<a href=
=3D"mailto:da...@dossot.net">da...@dossot.net</a>> wrote:<br>
><br>
> > > >> > > I'm turning into the master of lousy =
excuses but... tonight Agile Vancouver<br>
> > > >> > > is having a presentation<<a href=3D"ht=
tp://www.agilevancouver.ca/2010/09/estimating-the-sociological-effe.." targ=
et=3D"_blank">http://www.agilevancouver.ca/2010/09/estimating-the-sociologi=
cal-effe..</a>.>that<br>
> > > >> > > seems very interesting...<br>
><br>
> > > >> > > :)<br>
><br>
> > > >> > > On Sun, Oct 17, 2010 at 9:57 PM, Tavis Ru=
dd <<a href=3D"mailto:tavis.r...@gmail.com">tavis.r...@gmail.com</a>>=
wrote:<br>
> > > >> > > > Saem, Geoff and I got started on pre=
pping an EBS of a subset of the<br>
> > > >> > > > data today. =A0I'm up for someth=
ing informal tomorrow night continuing<br>
> > > >> > > > the prep work. =A0Anyone else intere=
sted?<br>
><br>
> > > >> > > > On Oct 17, 1:01 pm, chuck clark <=
<a href=3D"mailto:ccl...@ziclix.com">ccl...@ziclix.com</a>> wrote:<br>
> > > >> > > > > I definitely don't think we=
're ready for the Riak session tomorrow<br>
> > > >> > > > because<br>
> > > >> > > > > I'm sure most people haven&=
#39;t yet looked at the Riak Fast Track. =A0And it<br>
> > > >> > > > > sounds like we're starting =
to get a little bit light for next Monday.<br>
> > > >> > > > =A0I'm<br>
> > > >> > > > > also not confident yet we'd=
be ready for a Riak session next Monday.<br>
> > > >> > > > > =A0Unfortunately there is anoth=
er internal event happening at the Pulse<br>
> > > >> > > > Energy<br>
> > > >> > > > > offices tomorrow but I like the=
idea of an informal session to get an AMI<br>
> > > >> > > > > with Riak and EBS volumes ready=
. =A0That way we can be sure we're ready two<br>
> > > >> > > > > weeks from now.<br>
><br>
> > > >> > > > > The Pulse offices are available=
on Wednesday this week otherwise if<br>
> > > >> > > > Monday<br>
> > > >> > > > > works out best for everyone we =
could pick a coffeeshop with WiFi or<br>
> > > >> > > > another<br>
> > > >> > > > > office is someone else can host=
.<br>
><br>
> > > >> > > > > thanks,<br>
> > > >> > > > > chuck<br>
><br>
> > > >> > > > > On Sun, Oct 17, 2010 at 12:41 P=
M, geoff webb <<a href=3D"mailto:geoffnettagl...@gmail.com">geoffnettagl=
....@gmail.com</a><br>
> > > >> > > > >wrote:<br>
><br>
> > > >> > > > > > Hi Folks<br>
><br>
> > > >> > > > > > I'd be keen on tomorro=
w, Oct 18th to, even if just to help with prep<br>
> > > >> > > > > > and planning/setup.<br>
><br>
> > > >> > > > > > I am in Australia from Oct=
22nd - Nov 7th so will most likely miss the<br>
> > > >> > > > > > real-deal hands-on session=
*sigh*.<br>
><br>
> > > >> > > > > > Geoff<br>
><br>
> > > >> > > > > > On Fri, Oct 15, 2010 at 11=
:31 AM, Tavis Rudd <<a href=3D"mailto:tavis.r...@gmail.com">tavis.r...@g=
mail.com</a>><br>
> > > >> > > > wrote:<br>
> > > >> > > > > > > hmm, I'd also lik=
e to attend that -> so, +1 for this Monday. =A0Even if<br>
> > > >> > > > > > we're<br>
> > > >> > > > > > > not ready for a dedic=
ated hack session by then we could use the time<br>
> > > >> > > > to<br>
> > > >> > > > > > > finish the prep work.=
=A0Once we have the data ebs and an ami, we<br>
> > > >> > > > should be<br>
> > > >> > > > > > > ready for doing view/=
edit count aggregration across time slices.<br>
><br>
> > > >> > > > > > > On Thu, 14 Oct 2010, =
David Dossot wrote:<br>
><br>
> > > >> > > > > > >> 25th is no-go for=
me as I really want to attend VanDev's<br>
> > > >> > > > presentation on<br>
> > > >> > > > > > >> Lean/Kanban.<br>
><br>
> > > >> > > > > > >> D.<br>
</div></div></blockquote></div><br></div>
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