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Subject: RE: [erlang-questions] Large scale deployments testing
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Hi guys,

Thanks for the information and links!

Best Regards,
Sergey Zhemzhitsky
Phone. +7 495 2580500 ext. 1246

From: Michael Truog [mailto:mjtr...@gmail.com]
Sent: Saturday, September 22, 2012 5:58 AM
To: Joel Meyer; Zhemzhitsky Sergey
Cc: riak-us...@lists.basho.com; erlang-questions
Subject: Re: [erlang-questions] Large scale deployments testing

On 09/21/2012 03:00 PM, Joel Meyer wrote:
Hi Sergey,

We (OpenX) have a riak_core based application that's running on a 125 node =
cluster (there are also other smaller clusters). We never really tested to =
see where it would fall over (and the cluster was much smaller when it star=
ted), but I see no indicators that it will fall over when we add the 126th =
node. FWIW, it's running riak_core 0.13.0, and I assume the newer versions =
of riak_core have only gotten better. Answers to some of your other questio=
ns (based solely on my experience) in-line below.

The riak list mentioned optimism about riak clusters of 200+ nodes in a thr=
ead here:
http://riak-users.197444.n3.nabble.com/does-Riak-cluster-maintain-fully-con=
nected-Erlang-network-td3695942.html

However, as mentioned in the thread, a fully connected network of nodes (fu=
lly connected because of the usage of distributed Erlang) does  have a natu=
ral limit (due to the network speed) on scalability with the net tick time.=
  You can always increase the net tick time, but then failures will take lo=
nger to detect.

So, your success may rely on your fault-tolerance requirements.

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to:mjtr...@gmail.com]
<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Saturday, September 22, 2012 5:58 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Joel Meyer; Zhemzhitsky Sergey<br>
<b>Cc:</b> riak-us...@lists.basho.com; erlang-questions<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [erlang-questions] Large scale deployments testing<o:p>=
</o:p></span></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal">On 09/21/2012 03:00 PM, Joel Meyer wrote: <o:p></o:p=
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Hi Sergey, <o:p></o:p></p>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
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<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">We (OpenX) have a riak_core based application that's=
 running on a 125 node cluster (there are also other smaller clusters). We =
never really tested to see where it would fall over (and the cluster was mu=
ch smaller when it started), but I
 see no indicators that it will fall over when we add the 126th node. FWIW,=
 it's running riak_core 0.13.0, and I assume the newer versions of riak_cor=
e have only gotten better. Answers to some of your other questions (based s=
olely on my experience) in-line
 below.<o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-bottom:12.0pt"><br>
The riak list mentioned optimism about riak clusters of 200&#43; nodes in a=
 thread here:<br>
<a href=3D"http://riak-users.197444.n3.nabble.com/does-Riak-cluster-maintai=
n-fully-connected-Erlang-network-td3695942.html">http://riak-users.197444.n=
3.nabble.com/does-Riak-cluster-maintain-fully-connected-Erlang-network-td36=
95942.html</a><br>
<br>
However, as mentioned in the thread, a fully connected network of nodes (fu=
lly connected because of the usage of distributed Erlang) does&nbsp; have a=
 natural limit (due to the network speed) on scalability with the net tick =
time.&nbsp; You can always increase the net
 tick time, but then failures will take longer to detect.<br>
<br>
So, your success may rely on your fault-tolerance requirements.<o:p></o:p><=
/p>
</div>

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