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Carl-Johan Kihlbom  
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 More options Sep 9 2008, 2:10 am
From: Carl-Johan Kihlbom <kihl...@gmail.com>
Date: Tue, 9 Sep 2008 08:10:23 +0200
Local: Tues, Sep 9 2008 2:10 am
Subject: Re: [nordicrails] Re: Welcome to Nordic Rails!
On Sep 9, 2008, at 07:05, Jarkko Laine wrote:

> Hey CJ,

> And thanks for getting the ball rolling! I've been thinking about a
> regional Ruby conference for the Nordic region for quite some time but
> haven't yet found the time or energy to make anything happen.

> Here are a couple of ideas I've gathered during lots and lots of km's
> on the trails:

Thanks for helping out Jarkko!

> * Circulate the venue. We have four countries really close to each
> other, with good (and inexpensive) flight connections to everywhere,
> so while I think Göteborg is an excellent place to start, I don't
> think being geologically in the middle of the region has a lot of
> value. A flight to everywhere in Scandinavia takes max. about an hour
> anyway. I think having both a central organizing group (á la Ruby
> Central) to handle the recurring things and a local organizer like
> Göteborg and Tampere Ruby User Groups taking care of the yearly event
> would help to keep the conference fresh and make everyone feel they
> have a stake in the event.

I think this is an excellent idea. I for one would appreciate the  
opportunity to see more of the nordic countries. I've never been to  
Finland for example. But I think Göteborg is a good start.

> * Maybe Ruby rather than just Rails. Not meaning to bash Rails at all
> here, but what I want to get from events like this is inspiration, and
> that would be easier if the topic would be a bit broader (even
> embracing other talk topics such as functional programming/erlang
> etc).

I've thought about that, but my reasoning is this: Rails is a bigger  
"brand" than Ruby right now I think, and attaching the name of the  
conference to that will probably help get enough attendees. That  
doesn't mean that the content has to be Rails specific. I'd prefer it  
if we have more general content that would appeal to Rails programmers.

What do you guys think? We could still change to Nordic Ruby if people  
feel that would be better.

> * Euruko 2009 will be "in the first quarter" of the year, so maybe
> coordinate with them so that the two won't clash.

Thanks, I'll look into that.

> * I'm all for intimate and small, rather than very commercial and big.
> I think both the original RubyConf and Euruko are great examples of
> conferences where the admission isn't a hurdle for anyone (I think
> Euruko was €20 last year). I'd like the conference be something that
> the attendees feel belongs to them, the community, rather than some
> commercial entity. That doesn't of course mean we shouldn't have
> sponsors (you can't really keep the price that low without them), but
> that the conference doesn't feel like a money-making machine for
> anyone. I think that's the requirement for getting the Ruby Central
> regional conference grant as well.

I definitely agree. From what I heard from the Scotland on Rails guys,  
organizing a regional conference is a really bad money-making scheme  
from the time you put into it. So I appreciate all the help I can  
get :-)

/ CJ


 
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