NodeJS Job Offers

[Isaac Schlueter]

As node gets more popular, some startups and other crazy folks are
deciding to use it for "real" things.

Like, jobs, with funding, and business plans, and employees and stuff.
There are also real companies using Node for things behind the
scenes. I hear rumors of Yahoo doing stuff with it, and Joyent
employs Ryan and Orlandov, so I know they've got some node stuff under
the hood.

How would you guys feel about seeing job offers on this list? I worry
about it being an annoying spammy type thing, especially since a lot
of recruiters tend to be overly aggressive. ("Oh, there are
javascripters there? Come work on this rails+jquery job!")

But what if it was strictly a job working with NodeJS? Would that be
something you'd want to see here? Should we create a separate list
for that so that it doesn't clutter the extremely focused and super
strictly serious seriousness of this list? ;)

I ask because I know a guy who's trying to hire node people, and he
doesn't want to be a jerk and inadvertently ostracize the very people
he's trying to recruit.

--i

[Marak Squires]

I say let anyone post any node.js related job offers they want. 

If they start spamming, just moderate the message and block the person in question from posting to the mailing list.

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[Elijah Insua]

Personally I think its fine to post jobs here. Perhaps when we reach a point of critical mass and the job posts are actually getting "in the way", then we roll out a nodejs-jobs list.

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On Thu, Jul 8, 2010 at 3:48 PM, Isaac Schlueter <i...@izs.me> wrote:

[josh rotenberg]

On Thu, Jul 8, 2010 at 12:48 PM, Isaac Schlueter <i...@izs.me> wrote:
> How would you guys feel about seeing job offers on this list?  I worry
> about it being an annoying spammy type thing, especially since a lot
> of recruiters tend to be overly aggressive.  ("Oh, there are
> javascripters there?  Come work on this rails+jquery job!")
>
> But what if it was strictly a job working with NodeJS?  Would that be
> something you'd want to see here?  Should we create a separate list
> for that so that it doesn't clutter the extremely focused and super
> strictly serious seriousness of this list? ;)

I'd say allow it with the caveat that it may need to either be
disallowed, moderated, or moved to a separate list if its gets out of
hand. In general it gets annoying when job postings turn in to 300
message threads about the compensation/expectations/etc. Maybe allow
it if its something like "Job/Company/Location/Link to more
details/Please reply off list if interested."

Josh

[Matt Ranney]

On Thu, Jul 8, 2010 at 12:48 PM, Isaac Schlueter <i...@izs.me> wrote:

How would you guys feel about seeing job offers on this list?  I worry
about it being an annoying spammy type thing, especially since a lot
of recruiters tend to be overly aggressive.  ("Oh, there are
javascripters there?  Come work on this rails+jquery job!")

Recruiters and spammers seem to share a lot of genetic traits.

That said, I'd like to see node-based job postings here.  Not only might it help a noder get a job, but it also lends more legitimacy to the node effort in general.

[Chris Winberry]

Keep it on here until it gets out of hand. It would be good for contributors and devs to see how node is used in and perceived by the business world.

[Isaac Schlueter]

Maybe we could encourage people to prepend a subject tag, like "JOB:",
kind of like how we do "PATCH:" for diffs and "ANN:" for
announcements? That way at least it'd be easy to filter and search
on.

--i

[Elijah Insua]

Sounds good to me

[Scott Taylor]

+ 1

I'd love to see node job offers. But let's keep job offers tagged with [JOB OFFER] or something similar in the subject line so that it's easy to filter out for those who might think it's more noise than signal.

Scott

>
> --i

[Dean Landolt]

On Thu, Jul 8, 2010 at 4:24 PM, Scott Taylor <sc...@railsnewbie.com> wrote:

On Jul 8, 2010, at 3:48 PM, Isaac Schlueter wrote:

> As node gets more popular, some startups and other crazy folks are
> deciding to use it for "real" things.
>
> Like, jobs, with funding, and business plans, and employees and stuff.
> There are also real companies using Node for things behind the
> scenes.  I hear rumors of Yahoo doing stuff with it, and Joyent
> employs Ryan and Orlandov, so I know they've got some node stuff under
> the hood.
>
> How would you guys feel about seeing job offers on this list?  I worry
> about it being an annoying spammy type thing, especially since a lot
> of recruiters tend to be overly aggressive.  ("Oh, there are
> javascripters there?  Come work on this rails+jquery job!")
>
> But what if it was strictly a job working with NodeJS?  Would that be
> something you'd want to see here?  Should we create a separate list
> for that so that it doesn't clutter the extremely focused and super
> strictly serious seriousness of this list? ;)
>
> I ask because I know a guy who's trying to hire node people, and he
> doesn't want to be a jerk and inadvertently ostracize the very people
> he's trying to recruit.

+ 1

I'd love to see node job offers.  But let's keep job offers tagged with [JOB OFFER] or something similar in the subject line so that it's easy to filter out for those who might think it's more noise than signal.

And we're expecting recruiters to do this? Heh :)

[Mikeal Rogers]

The BayPiggies list had (possibly still have) an interesting policy about this.

Basically, if you're developer and you and/or your company are hiring for a position you are free to post it. 

Professional recruiters at companies and third party recruiters are not allowed to post positions.

That seems like a pretty sane policy but it is optimized for a problem we currently don't have.

-Mikeal

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[Stephen Belanger]

Well, I know I'll be posting a few jobs on here before too long, so I'd like to see a decision on how this should work.

Personally I like the idea of keeping it in this list for now and just requiring job offers be marked with JOB like ANN and PATCH.

On Thu, Jul 8, 2010 at 1:31 PM, Dean Landolt <de...@deanlandolt.com> wrote:

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[Jacob Rothstein]

Out of general curiosity and as someone who will also be hiring soon,
I'm curious what the "other language" mix is here. How many pure-js
folks (wouldn't take a job if it required another language) vs ruby vs
python vs ...? This seems like it would be relevant to anyone looking
to hire noders in a not-only-node-yet position. Would this be better
as a wufoo or docs survey? Has it been asked before?

–Jacob

[Dean Landolt]

On Thu, Jul 8, 2010 at 4:53 PM, Jacob Rothstein <jacob.r...@gmail.com> wrote:

Out of general curiosity and as someone who will also be hiring soon,
I'm curious what the "other language" mix is here.  How many pure-js
folks (wouldn't take a job if it required another language) vs ruby vs
python vs ...?  This seems like it would be relevant to anyone looking
to hire noders in a not-only-node-yet position.  Would this be better
as a wufoo or docs survey?  Has it been asked before?

I imagine node+anything would be fine. There's clearly a wide array of skillsets here, so why not. I think the key point is that it's node+x.

[Stephen Belanger]

From what I've seen here, most noders have a background in Ruby. I'm one of the few that don't.

I have done a bit of Ruby, but my background is mainly PHP (against my own better judgement) and Python (yay!).

My job offers won't require any particular experience other than node, but Python/Ruby skills would probably be beneficial.

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[Marak Squires]

Coldfusion!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 

:-(

[Matt Ranney]

On Thu, Jul 8, 2010 at 2:04 PM, Dean Landolt <de...@deanlandolt.com> wrote:

I imagine node+anything would be fine. There's clearly a wide array of skillsets here, so why not. I think the key point is that it's node+x.

If the job is node+x, I say send it.

[Isaac Schlueter]

"And thus the NodeJS community so thoroughly embraced the idea, that
the very suggestion became a Post Your Resume thread..."

I'm sensing that some job postings might actually be serving a need here.

--i

[Stephen Belanger]

Don't worry, I'll have lots of job openings soon, once funding is secured. ;)

[James Carr]

I'd say allow it, but if it gets out of hand form a new group for job
postings like nodej...@googlegroups.com or something like that.

Personally I'd like to see any offers so that I can expand my skills more. ;)

Thanks,
James

[Ethan Stillman]

Funny timing on this discussion.

WeShop.com is hiring some Node in NYC.

Gist is you synch your email, WeShop finds when you buy things and how much you paid, then finds you cheaper deals and facilitates order cancel/return.

A bunch of other applications as well like auto ID'ing shared interest groups based on product buys and then facilitating group rate negotiations, etc.

 I just started there but they seem like good guys, have legit funding, legit crew,  and an entirely too spacious office at 31st and 5th.

Hit me up if you want to chat on it or know people who are awesome and into Node.

I'll also be at NYC.js later

Thanks.

- Ethan

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Ethan

617.460.5544

@estill01

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[r...@tinyclouds.org]

As long as the posting is node specific, it's okay with me.

[Aaron Heckmann]

I'm all for seeing some node job postings here. I'd love to work on node stuff all the time.

On Thu, Jul 8, 2010 at 7:32 PM, <r...@tinyclouds.org> wrote:

As long as the posting is node specific, it's okay with me.

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[Terry Martin]

So, I've had the idea for a node-related job site for a while, mostly due to my observation of client demand for real-time development and the lack of Node-specific opportunities.  After seeing this thread I decided to take action... So last night I hacked together a job board site.  I'm offering it to the community for free as is.  No frills, no profiteering, etc.  Just a simple "post and read" site, ala Craigslist style.

http://NodeJobs.com

My tenants are:

1. Keep it free;
2. Promote all things Node;
3. Help foster community growth;

Post to either the forum or the site, both instances would show up on the job board.  Group posts that have the tag "JOB:" is in the title will automatically show up on NodeJobs.com.

Perhaps this would help foster awareness, legitimacy, ecosystem, community, etc.

Thoughts?

- Terry

@tzmartin

[Ryan Gahl]

That's awesome dude. 

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[Stephen Belanger]

Looks awesome! Definitely bookmarking that!

[Aaron Heckmann]

Thanks Terry

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[Ethan Stillman]

Hey Terry.

A) the job board is awesome

B) how do/can I change the categorization of the WeShop jobs from 'freelance' to either 'full time' or all three designations?

Thanks a lot.

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Ethan

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@estill01

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[Terry Martin]

Thanks!  I updated your listing to Full-Time.  I need to add a way to edit listings and allow for multiple selections during posting, etc.  Pretty simple to add.  I'll try to get to that later today.

- Terry