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On 04/16/2012 02:21 PM, Stephan Bardubitzki wrote:
> If you want to support a broad range of devices jQM is the way to go
> and the new v1.1.0 final release has a lot of bug fixes and
> improvements. I'm using jQM with backbone.js, and require.js on node,
> but would advice to use azicchetti's router
> https://github.com/azicchetti/jquerymobile-router instead of the
> backbone router.
I wish we could stay with jQM but honestly, even 1.1.0 is still just too
buggy - things like buttons overflowing the grid blocks, images not
sizing correctly, etc - the lack of "fit and finish" just destroys the
user experience - it would be nice if we had the time and resources to
correct and submit fixes but looks like a big learning curve and
undertaking and frankly can't even register on the forum (and noticing
most posts arent' getting answered. we are routing on the server (yeah
not quite as fast as on client and much of it is data transfer but we'll
work on that later).
I'll look at jQTouch tonight and evaluate -
>
> On Mon, Apr 16, 2012 at 12:54 PM, john.tiger
> <john.tigernas...@gmail.com <mailto:john.tigernas...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>
> On 04/16/2012 09:01 AM, Tim Caswell wrote:
>> Also some popular frameworks are backbone.js and ember.js (aka
>> sproutcore 2.0). Backbone has no ui widgets, and I ember doesn't
>> have much.
>>
>> There are *many* mobile frameworks these days.
>
> yes indeed - actually we are more interested in the CSS display
> side and js actions (ie fixed position nav bar - in the future a
> client side framework will likely be used but for now sticking
> with our server side node framework
>
> I'll explore some of the sencha touch suggestions made above -
> still kind of curious the difference between touch 2 vs JQTouch
> and which would be easier to use with our server side node.
>
>
>
>>
>> On Mon, Apr 16, 2012 at 9:46 AM, David Whitten
>> <whit...@worldvista.org <mailto:whit...@worldvista.org>> wrote:
>>
>> I understand that Rob Tweed has a system for making Sencha
>> Touch much easier to use.
>> http://www.mgateway.com/ for more details.
>>
>> Dave
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Apr 16, 2012 at 9:28 AM, john.tiger
>> <john.tigernas...@gmail.com
>> <mailto:john.tigernas...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>
>>
>> we've tried using JQuery Mobile but it's way too buggy
>> (and note all the unanswered posts on the forum which is
>> not a good sign)
>>
>> Sencha Touch seems popular but looks complex to use with
>> a node framework so looking at JQTouch (I guess it's some
>> sort of off-shoot from Sencha). We want to keep things
>> as simple as possible.
>>
>> any experiences / suggestions ?
>>
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On 04/16/2012 02:21 PM, Stephan Bardubitzki wrote:
<blockquote
cite="mid:CAGkZrwrzuy2SYLpcLjXAHqLy9Zn2YJ1FLW-exZj_6-zMXBe...@mail.gmail.com"
type="cite">If you want to support a broad range of devices jQM is
the way to go and the new v1.1.0 final release has a lot of bug
fixes and improvements. I'm using jQM with backbone.js, and
require.js on node, but would advice to use azicchetti's router <a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="https://github.com/azicchetti/jquerymobile-router">https://github.com/azicchetti/jquerymobile-router</a>
instead of the backbone router.<br>
</blockquote>
<br>
I wish we could stay with jQM but honestly, even 1.1.0 is still just
too buggy - things like buttons overflowing the grid blocks, images
not sizing correctly, etc - the lack of "fit and finish" just
destroys the user experience - it would be nice if we had the time
and resources to correct and submit fixes but looks like a big
learning curve and undertaking and frankly can't even register on
the forum (and noticing most posts arent' getting answered. we are
routing on the server (yeah not quite as fast as on client and much
of it is data transfer but we'll work on that later). <br>
<br>
I'll look at jQTouch tonight and evaluate - <br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<blockquote
cite="mid:CAGkZrwrzuy2SYLpcLjXAHqLy9Zn2YJ1FLW-exZj_6-zMXBe...@mail.gmail.com"
type="cite">
<br>
<div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Apr 16, 2012 at 12:54 PM,
john.tiger <span dir="ltr"><<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:john.tigernas...@gmail.com">john.tigernas...@gmail.com</a>></span>
wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0
.8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
<div bgcolor="#FFFFFF" text="#000000">
<div class="im"> On 04/16/2012 09:01 AM, Tim Caswell wrote:
<blockquote type="cite">Also some popular frameworks are
backbone.js and ember.js (aka sproutcore 2.0). Backbone
has no ui widgets, and I ember doesn't have much.
<div><br>
</div>
<div>There are *many* mobile frameworks these days.<br>
</div>
</blockquote>
<br>
</div>
yes indeed - actually we are more interested in the CSS
display side and js actions (ie fixed position nav bar - in
the future a client side framework will likely be used but
for now sticking with our server side node framework <br>
<br>
I'll explore some of the sencha touch suggestions made above
- still kind of curious the difference between touch 2 vs
JQTouch and which would be easier to use with our server
side node. <br>
<div>
<div class="h5"> <br>
<br>
<br>
<blockquote type="cite">
<div><br>
<div class="gmail_quote"> On Mon, Apr 16, 2012 at
9:46 AM, David Whitten <span dir="ltr"><<a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:whit...@worldvista.org"
target="_blank">whit...@worldvista.org</a>></span>
wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0
0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc
solid;padding-left:1ex"> I understand that Rob
Tweed has a system for making Sencha Touch much
easier to use.<br>
<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://www.mgateway.com/"
target="_blank">http://www.mgateway.com/</a>
for more details.<br>
<br>
Dave
<div>
<div> <br>
<br>
<div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Apr 16,
2012 at 9:28 AM, john.tiger <span
dir="ltr"><<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:john.tigernas...@gmail.com" target="_blank">john.tigernas...@gmail.com</a>></span>
wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote"
style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px
#ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><br>
we've tried using JQuery Mobile but it's
way too buggy (and note all the
unanswered posts on the forum which is
not a good sign)<br>
<br>
Sencha Touch seems popular but looks
complex to use with a node framework so
looking at JQTouch (I guess it's some
sort of off-shoot from Sencha). We want
to keep things as simple as possible.<br>
<br>
any experiences / suggestions ?<br>
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