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TiagoP  
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From: TiagoP <pix...@gmail.com>
Date: Thu, 9 Sep 2010 09:14:21 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Thurs, Sep 9 2010 12:14 pm
Subject: Which database best fits node.js?
Hi,

Which database do you usually use with your node.js projects? Is there
any that fits node better? Maybe Riak?


 
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James Carr  
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From: James Carr <james.r.c...@gmail.com>
Date: Thu, 9 Sep 2010 11:16:32 -0500
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Subject: Re: [nodejs] Which database best fits node.js?
I always use couchDB, but the real answer is highly subjective.

I'd say: go with what you are most comfortable with.

Thanks,
James


 
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From: fuzzy spoon <fuzzysp...@gmail.com>
Date: Thu, 9 Sep 2010 18:19:20 +0200
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Subject: Re: [nodejs] Which database best fits node.js?
What fits the job?

Also, i use couch as well.


 
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JoshK  
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From: JoshK <josh.k...@gmail.com>
Date: Thu, 9 Sep 2010 09:32:55 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Thurs, Sep 9 2010 12:32 pm
Subject: Re: Which database best fits node.js?
I don't think any one is "better" then the other, however I find
myself using MongoDB for a lot of things. Fast, flexible, and the
community support is top notch as well as the documentation.

Additionally they have drivers for just about any language.

Regards,

-Josh

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Stephen Belanger  
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From: Stephen Belanger <cyruzdr...@gmail.com>
Date: Thu, 9 Sep 2010 10:20:25 -0700
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Subject: Re: [nodejs] Re: Which database best fits node.js?

This thread is giving me deja vu.

Seriously though, it all depends on the needs of the application and
personal preference. There's not really any "ideal" database, but certainly
there is some that are more suitable than others.


 
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From: ono <pix...@gmail.com>
Date: Thu, 9 Sep 2010 10:32:04 -0700 (PDT)
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Subject: Re: Which database best fits node.js?
Can you elaborate on that last part? thanks

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From: nwhite <changereal...@gmail.com>
Date: Thu, 9 Sep 2010 10:42:56 -0700
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Subject: Re: [nodejs] Re: Which database best fits node.js?

Every job has different requirements for completion. To say technology X is
best is oversimplifying the problem. It doesn't take into consideration the
skill set of your developers, what tools your currently using nor learning
curve or costs of switching to said technology. Picking any technology is
always a battle of compromises. One team might pick a cutting edge solution
because it makes their development faster while another team may pick
another because documentation and community support is more complete.
Neither one is wrong. Pick the solution that gives your team the least
tradeoffs for your existing development process.


 
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Jaime Bueza  
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 More options Sep 9 2010, 1:25 pm
From: Jaime Bueza <jbu...@gmail.com>
Date: Thu, 9 Sep 2010 10:25:23 -0700
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Subject: Re: [nodejs] Re: Which database best fits node.js?

@Stephen

Just wondering, in what situations (application for example) would you say
MongoDB is a better choice than CouchDB? I'm just starting NodeJS
development so it'd be great to hear some of your experiences.

Cheers

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Mihai Călin Bazon  
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 More options Sep 9 2010, 2:05 pm
From: Mihai Călin Bazon <mihai.ba...@gmail.com>
Date: Thu, 9 Sep 2010 20:05:22 +0200
Local: Thurs, Sep 9 2010 2:05 pm
Subject: Re: [nodejs] Re: Which database best fits node.js?

On Thu, Sep 9, 2010 at 7:42 PM, nwhite <changereal...@gmail.com> wrote:
> One team might pick a cutting edge solution
> because it makes their development faster while another team may pick
> another because documentation and community support is more complete.
> Neither one is wrong.

For the sake of discussion, I disagree with that.  Betting on the
wrong technology will bite you hard, even if it gets you quickly to an
working product (but I don't think it would).

Speaking of languages: judging by community, PHP is still the
"superior" choice.  But you don't want to use PHP, really.

Speaking of databases, again judging by the community size, MySQL
seems to be the winner.  But with it, you'll lose.

See, speaking in general, the tools that manage to attract the biggest
communities are usually the crappiest ones.  I'm not sure why this
happens, but it does.  We're living in a "worse is better" world. [1]

Now back to the DB problem: I'd go with Postgres.  For fun stuff,
check this too: http://howfuckedismydatabase.com/ ;-)

[1] http://citeseerx.ist.psu.edu/viewdoc/download?doi=10.1.1.114.4096&rep...

Cheers,
-Mihai


 
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Akzhan Abdulin  
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From: Akzhan Abdulin <akzhan.abdu...@gmail.com>
Date: Thu, 9 Sep 2010 22:39:13 +0400
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Subject: Re: [nodejs] Which database best fits node.js?

Today I move all database functionality into separate service written in
ruby.

So my Node.JS service correcly uses its http::client to access their REST
API.

But we have other possibilities like node-mysqlclient.

2010/9/9 TiagoP <pix...@gmail.com>


 
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Stephen Belanger  
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 More options Sep 9 2010, 2:52 pm
From: Stephen Belanger <cyruzdr...@gmail.com>
Date: Thu, 9 Sep 2010 11:52:53 -0700
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Subject: Re: [nodejs] Re: Which database best fits node.js?

I should let someone else answer that, I looked at both when I started on my
current node projects, but ultimately went with Mongo. I haven't actually *
used* couch though, so I wouldn't exactly consider that a reliable judgement
to go by. I'd recommend taking the time to research whatever options you are
considering until you can make the choice yourself. Then you can only blame
yourself if difficulties arise at some later point.


 
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Joran Greef  
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 More options Sep 9 2010, 4:35 pm
From: Joran Greef <jorangr...@gmail.com>
Date: Thu, 9 Sep 2010 13:35:28 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Thurs, Sep 9 2010 4:35 pm
Subject: Re: Which database best fits node.js?
If it helps you, I used to use CouchDB, than I dropped it for Tokyo
Cabinet served by Tokyo Tyrant (with my own Lua extensions to add set
union and intersection support). I was happy with that. Then I
realized that Redis provides built-in sets, sorted sets, lists, union,
intersection etc. and it is evented, so I've just started using that
and I can say that I'm learning alot from the ideas implemented in it.
Basically Redis is NOT a key/value store, it's more like a data
structures service. You can create tries, queues, etc. in there, use
it for pub/sub, etc. Because of this focus on data structures, it has
pure and simple interfaces (similar to Tokyo). Redis makes sense in
terms of "turtles all the way down".

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Serge in Darkness  
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From: Serge in Darkness <bolter.f...@gmail.com>
Date: Thu, 9 Sep 2010 13:47:16 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Thurs, Sep 9 2010 4:47 pm
Subject: Re: Which database best fits node.js?
Depends on the task, really. I used mostly Redis and CouchDB (though i
found CouchDB a little limiting). Riak is good too.

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From: djangst <djan...@gmail.com>
Date: Thu, 9 Sep 2010 15:26:29 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Thurs, Sep 9 2010 6:26 pm
Subject: Re: Which database best fits node.js?
Not Node-specific, but this blog entry might be helpful as it attempts
to characterize some of the available NoSQL options (there's more
discussion in the comments):

http://blog.heroku.com/archives/2010/7/20/nosql/


 
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Date: Thu, 09 Sep 2010 18:40:35 -0700
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Subject: Re: [nodejs] Which database best fits node.js?
  On 09/09/2010 09:19 AM, fuzzy spoon wrote:

> What fits the job?

> Also, i use couch as well.

we also use couchdb - but really you need to pick the db whose features
fit your needs the best - at least several have a good node driver
(mysql, sqlite, postgres, mongo, ....


 
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Fabian Jakobs  
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From: Fabian Jakobs <fabian.jak...@web.de>
Date: Fri, 10 Sep 2010 09:33:10 +0200
Local: Fri, Sep 10 2010 3:33 am
Subject: Re: [nodejs] Which database best fits node.js?
We moved away from couchdb to redis because couchdb was too limiting
for us. Redis is really nice. You can think of it as a low level
database engine without the SQL cruft on top of it. For another
project I tried to use MySQL but I couldn't find drivers of sufficient
quality. I don't know if that has changed sine then.

Best Fabian


 
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Date: Fri, 10 Sep 2010 02:53:55 -0700 (PDT)
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Subject: Re: Which database best fits node.js?
Hi

Any performance or any benchmarking which comparing for Redis,
MongoDb, CouchDb and Riak?
I know Mongo is faster than Redis and CouchDb. But lack of data for
Riak.

Also, I am looking for Pure JS Library which can store data in HTML5
Local Storage offline and sync with one of the above Db.
That will be a very nice platform for offline web app.

Eric Fong

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Joran Greef  
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Date: Fri, 10 Sep 2010 05:21:58 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Fri, Sep 10 2010 8:21 am
Subject: Re: Which database best fits node.js?
Don't go the route of using LocalStorage. There is no indication that
browser vendors plan on implementing UI to enable the user to extend
the storage limits imposed on LocalStorage (currently 10mb I think).
In any event, I am under the impression that WebKit synchronously
loads LocalStorage into memory the first that LocalStorage is used, so
this would severely affect the UI if you put too much data in there. I
know from personal experience with the above issues.

Better to go with WebKit's SqlDatabase API, and implement a wrapper on
this to give you a key/value store with basic indexing. Then be ready
for Mozilla's IndexedDB, and include this in your wrapper when
IndexedDB is released.

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Date: Fri, 10 Sep 2010 18:14:47 +0200
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Subject: Re: [nodejs] Re: Which database best fits node.js?
Opera has dialogs to control per site quota, btw
I use the local Storage and couch together, its mainly just a
save-in-case and commit to db later.

//semi topic
I i decided to write a super entry level post about couch.
http://blog.owned.co.za/?p=269
Ill be refining it over the course of tonight, suggestions welcome :)


 
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Date: Fri, 10 Sep 2010 09:46:48 -0700
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Subject: Re: [nodejs] Re: Which database best fits node.js?

On Fri, Sep 10, 2010 at 2:53 AM, Eric Fong <eri...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I know Mongo is faster than Redis.

With all due respect, you may want to re-check your facts... given
that Redis is an in-memory datastore I find this highly unlikely.
Comparing Redis to MongoDB, Couch and Riak is like comparing apples to
baseballs. The only benchmark I can find to support this is
http://milancermak.posterous.com/benchmarking-tornados-sessions-0 and
it seems pretty flawed.

--
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AJ ONeal  
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Date: Fri, 10 Sep 2010 10:52:15 -0600
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Subject: Re: [nodejs] Re: Which database best fits node.js?

but don't forget, no matter which db you use: vim is the best editor ever

(just thought I'd take us off track before this goes into a flame war)

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Date: Fri, 10 Sep 2010 12:53:22 -0400
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Subject: Re: [nodejs] Re: Which database best fits node.js?

All hail VIM!

Regards,

-Josh
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Date: Fri, 10 Sep 2010 10:28:21 -0700
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Subject: Re: [nodejs] Re: Which database best fits node.js?

I've never been a fan of vim. I'm generally editing enough files at once,
that a tabbed editor ends up being more efficient for me. Even for editing
system files I don't tend to use it, I usually prefer to use nano.

On the note of Mongo being faster than Redis;

Really? Where did you get that idea? I was under the impression that Redis
was much faster. I can't think of any particular situations where Mongo
would be faster. I wouldn't really compare them though. I think they can be
complimentary in many projects, having Redis function somewhat like memcache
to store frequently accessed data.


 
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Arnout Kazemier  
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Date: Fri, 10 Sep 2010 19:43:29 +0200
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Subject: Re: [nodejs] Re: Which database best fits node.js?

Redis smokes MongoDB in every way, sets and gets.

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Arnout Kazemier
i...@3rd-Eden.com

 
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From: Karl Tiedt <kti...@gmail.com>
Date: Fri, 10 Sep 2010 13:23:04 -0500
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Subject: Re: [nodejs] Re: Which database best fits node.js?
Seriously people, its not about "what fits NODE", look at what you are
trying to do and pick the best database for your project... some DBs
focus on speed over data reliability, some on reliability over speed,
etc etc.. whats best for one is not always best for another... learn
it, live it, and let this pointless thread die already.

-Karl Tiedt


 
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