As node gets more popular, some startups and other crazy folks are deciding to use it for "real" things.
Like, jobs, with funding, and business plans, and employees and stuff. There are also real companies using Node for things behind the scenes. I hear rumors of Yahoo doing stuff with it, and Joyent employs Ryan and Orlandov, so I know they've got some node stuff under the hood.
How would you guys feel about seeing job offers on this list? I worry about it being an annoying spammy type thing, especially since a lot of recruiters tend to be overly aggressive. ("Oh, there are javascripters there? Come work on this rails+jquery job!")
But what if it was strictly a job working with NodeJS? Would that be something you'd want to see here? Should we create a separate list for that so that it doesn't clutter the extremely focused and super strictly serious seriousness of this list? ;)
I ask because I know a guy who's trying to hire node people, and he doesn't want to be a jerk and inadvertently ostracize the very people he's trying to recruit.
On Thu, Jul 8, 2010 at 3:48 PM, Isaac Schlueter <i...@izs.me> wrote: > As node gets more popular, some startups and other crazy folks are > deciding to use it for "real" things.
> Like, jobs, with funding, and business plans, and employees and stuff. > There are also real companies using Node for things behind the > scenes. I hear rumors of Yahoo doing stuff with it, and Joyent > employs Ryan and Orlandov, so I know they've got some node stuff under > the hood.
> How would you guys feel about seeing job offers on this list? I worry > about it being an annoying spammy type thing, especially since a lot > of recruiters tend to be overly aggressive. ("Oh, there are > javascripters there? Come work on this rails+jquery job!")
> But what if it was strictly a job working with NodeJS? Would that be > something you'd want to see here? Should we create a separate list > for that so that it doesn't clutter the extremely focused and super > strictly serious seriousness of this list? ;)
> I ask because I know a guy who's trying to hire node people, and he > doesn't want to be a jerk and inadvertently ostracize the very people > he's trying to recruit.
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Personally I think its fine to post jobs here. Perhaps when we reach a point of critical mass and the job posts are actually getting "in the way", then we roll out a nodejs-jobs list.
On Thu, Jul 8, 2010 at 3:48 PM, Isaac Schlueter <i...@izs.me> wrote: > As node gets more popular, some startups and other crazy folks are > deciding to use it for "real" things.
> Like, jobs, with funding, and business plans, and employees and stuff. > There are also real companies using Node for things behind the > scenes. I hear rumors of Yahoo doing stuff with it, and Joyent > employs Ryan and Orlandov, so I know they've got some node stuff under > the hood.
> How would you guys feel about seeing job offers on this list? I worry > about it being an annoying spammy type thing, especially since a lot > of recruiters tend to be overly aggressive. ("Oh, there are > javascripters there? Come work on this rails+jquery job!")
> But what if it was strictly a job working with NodeJS? Would that be > something you'd want to see here? Should we create a separate list > for that so that it doesn't clutter the extremely focused and super > strictly serious seriousness of this list? ;)
> I ask because I know a guy who's trying to hire node people, and he > doesn't want to be a jerk and inadvertently ostracize the very people > he's trying to recruit.
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On Thu, Jul 8, 2010 at 12:48 PM, Isaac Schlueter <i...@izs.me> wrote: > How would you guys feel about seeing job offers on this list? I worry > about it being an annoying spammy type thing, especially since a lot > of recruiters tend to be overly aggressive. ("Oh, there are > javascripters there? Come work on this rails+jquery job!")
> But what if it was strictly a job working with NodeJS? Would that be > something you'd want to see here? Should we create a separate list > for that so that it doesn't clutter the extremely focused and super > strictly serious seriousness of this list? ;)
I'd say allow it with the caveat that it may need to either be disallowed, moderated, or moved to a separate list if its gets out of hand. In general it gets annoying when job postings turn in to 300 message threads about the compensation/expectations/etc. Maybe allow it if its something like "Job/Company/Location/Link to more details/Please reply off list if interested."
On Thu, Jul 8, 2010 at 12:48 PM, Isaac Schlueter <i...@izs.me> wrote: > How would you guys feel about seeing job offers on this list? I worry > about it being an annoying spammy type thing, especially since a lot > of recruiters tend to be overly aggressive. ("Oh, there are > javascripters there? Come work on this rails+jquery job!")
Recruiters and spammers seem to share a lot of genetic traits.
That said, I'd like to see node-based job postings here. Not only might it help a noder get a job, but it also lends more legitimacy to the node effort in general.
Maybe we could encourage people to prepend a subject tag, like "JOB:", kind of like how we do "PATCH:" for diffs and "ANN:" for announcements? That way at least it'd be easy to filter and search on.
On Thu, Jul 8, 2010 at 13:06, Matt Ranney <m...@ranney.com> wrote: > On Thu, Jul 8, 2010 at 12:48 PM, Isaac Schlueter <i...@izs.me> wrote:
>> How would you guys feel about seeing job offers on this list? I worry >> about it being an annoying spammy type thing, especially since a lot >> of recruiters tend to be overly aggressive. ("Oh, there are >> javascripters there? Come work on this rails+jquery job!")
> Recruiters and spammers seem to share a lot of genetic traits. > That said, I'd like to see node-based job postings here. Not only might it > help a noder get a job, but it also lends more legitimacy to the node effort > in general.
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On Thu, Jul 8, 2010 at 4:19 PM, Isaac Schlueter <i...@izs.me> wrote: > Maybe we could encourage people to prepend a subject tag, like "JOB:", > kind of like how we do "PATCH:" for diffs and "ANN:" for > announcements? That way at least it'd be easy to filter and search > on.
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> >> How would you guys feel about seeing job offers on this list? I worry > >> about it being an annoying spammy type thing, especially since a lot > >> of recruiters tend to be overly aggressive. ("Oh, there are > >> javascripters there? Come work on this rails+jquery job!")
> > Recruiters and spammers seem to share a lot of genetic traits. > > That said, I'd like to see node-based job postings here. Not only might > it > > help a noder get a job, but it also lends more legitimacy to the node > effort > > in general.
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> As node gets more popular, some startups and other crazy folks are > deciding to use it for "real" things.
> Like, jobs, with funding, and business plans, and employees and stuff. > There are also real companies using Node for things behind the > scenes. I hear rumors of Yahoo doing stuff with it, and Joyent > employs Ryan and Orlandov, so I know they've got some node stuff under > the hood.
> How would you guys feel about seeing job offers on this list? I worry > about it being an annoying spammy type thing, especially since a lot > of recruiters tend to be overly aggressive. ("Oh, there are > javascripters there? Come work on this rails+jquery job!")
> But what if it was strictly a job working with NodeJS? Would that be > something you'd want to see here? Should we create a separate list > for that so that it doesn't clutter the extremely focused and super > strictly serious seriousness of this list? ;)
> I ask because I know a guy who's trying to hire node people, and he > doesn't want to be a jerk and inadvertently ostracize the very people > he's trying to recruit.
+ 1
I'd love to see node job offers. But let's keep job offers tagged with [JOB OFFER] or something similar in the subject line so that it's easy to filter out for those who might think it's more noise than signal.
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On Thu, Jul 8, 2010 at 4:24 PM, Scott Taylor <sc...@railsnewbie.com> wrote:
> On Jul 8, 2010, at 3:48 PM, Isaac Schlueter wrote:
> > As node gets more popular, some startups and other crazy folks are > > deciding to use it for "real" things.
> > Like, jobs, with funding, and business plans, and employees and stuff. > > There are also real companies using Node for things behind the > > scenes. I hear rumors of Yahoo doing stuff with it, and Joyent > > employs Ryan and Orlandov, so I know they've got some node stuff under > > the hood.
> > How would you guys feel about seeing job offers on this list? I worry > > about it being an annoying spammy type thing, especially since a lot > > of recruiters tend to be overly aggressive. ("Oh, there are > > javascripters there? Come work on this rails+jquery job!")
> > But what if it was strictly a job working with NodeJS? Would that be > > something you'd want to see here? Should we create a separate list > > for that so that it doesn't clutter the extremely focused and super > > strictly serious seriousness of this list? ;)
> > I ask because I know a guy who's trying to hire node people, and he > > doesn't want to be a jerk and inadvertently ostracize the very people > > he's trying to recruit.
> + 1
> I'd love to see node job offers. But let's keep job offers tagged with > [JOB OFFER] or something similar in the subject line so that it's easy to > filter out for those who might think it's more noise than signal.
On Thu, Jul 8, 2010 at 1:31 PM, Dean Landolt <d...@deanlandolt.com> wrote:
> On Thu, Jul 8, 2010 at 4:24 PM, Scott Taylor <sc...@railsnewbie.com>wrote:
>> On Jul 8, 2010, at 3:48 PM, Isaac Schlueter wrote:
>> > As node gets more popular, some startups and other crazy folks are >> > deciding to use it for "real" things.
>> > Like, jobs, with funding, and business plans, and employees and stuff. >> > There are also real companies using Node for things behind the >> > scenes. I hear rumors of Yahoo doing stuff with it, and Joyent >> > employs Ryan and Orlandov, so I know they've got some node stuff under >> > the hood.
>> > How would you guys feel about seeing job offers on this list? I worry >> > about it being an annoying spammy type thing, especially since a lot >> > of recruiters tend to be overly aggressive. ("Oh, there are >> > javascripters there? Come work on this rails+jquery job!")
>> > But what if it was strictly a job working with NodeJS? Would that be >> > something you'd want to see here? Should we create a separate list >> > for that so that it doesn't clutter the extremely focused and super >> > strictly serious seriousness of this list? ;)
>> > I ask because I know a guy who's trying to hire node people, and he >> > doesn't want to be a jerk and inadvertently ostracize the very people >> > he's trying to recruit.
>> + 1
>> I'd love to see node job offers. But let's keep job offers tagged with >> [JOB OFFER] or something similar in the subject line so that it's easy to >> filter out for those who might think it's more noise than signal.
> And we're expecting recruiters to do this? Heh :)
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On Thu, Jul 8, 2010 at 1:31 PM, Dean Landolt <d...@deanlandolt.com> wrote:
> On Thu, Jul 8, 2010 at 4:24 PM, Scott Taylor <sc...@railsnewbie.com>wrote:
>> On Jul 8, 2010, at 3:48 PM, Isaac Schlueter wrote:
>> > As node gets more popular, some startups and other crazy folks are >> > deciding to use it for "real" things.
>> > Like, jobs, with funding, and business plans, and employees and stuff. >> > There are also real companies using Node for things behind the >> > scenes. I hear rumors of Yahoo doing stuff with it, and Joyent >> > employs Ryan and Orlandov, so I know they've got some node stuff under >> > the hood.
>> > How would you guys feel about seeing job offers on this list? I worry >> > about it being an annoying spammy type thing, especially since a lot >> > of recruiters tend to be overly aggressive. ("Oh, there are >> > javascripters there? Come work on this rails+jquery job!")
>> > But what if it was strictly a job working with NodeJS? Would that be >> > something you'd want to see here? Should we create a separate list >> > for that so that it doesn't clutter the extremely focused and super >> > strictly serious seriousness of this list? ;)
>> > I ask because I know a guy who's trying to hire node people, and he >> > doesn't want to be a jerk and inadvertently ostracize the very people >> > he's trying to recruit.
>> + 1
>> I'd love to see node job offers. But let's keep job offers tagged with >> [JOB OFFER] or something similar in the subject line so that it's easy to >> filter out for those who might think it's more noise than signal.
> And we're expecting recruiters to do this? Heh :)
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Out of general curiosity and as someone who will also be hiring soon, I'm curious what the "other language" mix is here. How many pure-js folks (wouldn't take a job if it required another language) vs ruby vs python vs ...? This seems like it would be relevant to anyone looking to hire noders in a not-only-node-yet position. Would this be better as a wufoo or docs survey? Has it been asked before?
On Thu, Jul 8, 2010 at 1:40 PM, Stephen Belanger <cyruzdr...@gmail.com> wrote: > Well, I know I'll be posting a few jobs on here before too long, so I'd like > to see a decision on how this should work. > Personally I like the idea of keeping it in this list for now and just > requiring job offers be marked with JOB like ANN and PATCH.
> On Thu, Jul 8, 2010 at 1:31 PM, Dean Landolt <d...@deanlandolt.com> wrote:
>> On Thu, Jul 8, 2010 at 4:24 PM, Scott Taylor <sc...@railsnewbie.com> >> wrote:
>>> On Jul 8, 2010, at 3:48 PM, Isaac Schlueter wrote:
>>> > As node gets more popular, some startups and other crazy folks are >>> > deciding to use it for "real" things.
>>> > Like, jobs, with funding, and business plans, and employees and stuff. >>> > There are also real companies using Node for things behind the >>> > scenes. I hear rumors of Yahoo doing stuff with it, and Joyent >>> > employs Ryan and Orlandov, so I know they've got some node stuff under >>> > the hood.
>>> > How would you guys feel about seeing job offers on this list? I worry >>> > about it being an annoying spammy type thing, especially since a lot >>> > of recruiters tend to be overly aggressive. ("Oh, there are >>> > javascripters there? Come work on this rails+jquery job!")
>>> > But what if it was strictly a job working with NodeJS? Would that be >>> > something you'd want to see here? Should we create a separate list >>> > for that so that it doesn't clutter the extremely focused and super >>> > strictly serious seriousness of this list? ;)
>>> > I ask because I know a guy who's trying to hire node people, and he >>> > doesn't want to be a jerk and inadvertently ostracize the very people >>> > he's trying to recruit.
>>> + 1
>>> I'd love to see node job offers. But let's keep job offers tagged with >>> [JOB OFFER] or something similar in the subject line so that it's easy to >>> filter out for those who might think it's more noise than signal.
>> And we're expecting recruiters to do this? Heh :)
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On Thu, Jul 8, 2010 at 4:53 PM, Jacob Rothstein <jacob.rothst...@gmail.com>wrote:
> Out of general curiosity and as someone who will also be hiring soon, > I'm curious what the "other language" mix is here. How many pure-js > folks (wouldn't take a job if it required another language) vs ruby vs > python vs ...? This seems like it would be relevant to anyone looking > to hire noders in a not-only-node-yet position. Would this be better > as a wufoo or docs survey? Has it been asked before?
I imagine node+anything would be fine. There's clearly a wide array of skillsets here, so why not. I think the key point is that it's *node*+x.
On Thu, Jul 8, 2010 at 2:04 PM, Dean Landolt <d...@deanlandolt.com> wrote:
> On Thu, Jul 8, 2010 at 4:53 PM, Jacob Rothstein <jacob.rothst...@gmail.com > > wrote:
>> Out of general curiosity and as someone who will also be hiring soon, >> I'm curious what the "other language" mix is here. How many pure-js >> folks (wouldn't take a job if it required another language) vs ruby vs >> python vs ...? This seems like it would be relevant to anyone looking >> to hire noders in a not-only-node-yet position. Would this be better >> as a wufoo or docs survey? Has it been asked before?
> I imagine node+anything would be fine. There's clearly a wide array of > skillsets here, so why not. I think the key point is that it's *node*+x.
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> From what I've seen here, most noders have a background in Ruby. I'm one of > the few that don't.
> I have done a bit of Ruby, but my background is mainly PHP (against my own > better judgement) and Python (yay!).
> My job offers won't require any particular experience other than node, but > Python/Ruby skills would probably be beneficial.
> On Thu, Jul 8, 2010 at 2:04 PM, Dean Landolt <d...@deanlandolt.com> wrote:
>> On Thu, Jul 8, 2010 at 4:53 PM, Jacob Rothstein < >> jacob.rothst...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> Out of general curiosity and as someone who will also be hiring soon, >>> I'm curious what the "other language" mix is here. How many pure-js >>> folks (wouldn't take a job if it required another language) vs ruby vs >>> python vs ...? This seems like it would be relevant to anyone looking >>> to hire noders in a not-only-node-yet position. Would this be better >>> as a wufoo or docs survey? Has it been asked before?
>> I imagine node+anything would be fine. There's clearly a wide array of >> skillsets here, so why not. I think the key point is that it's *node*+x.
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On Thu, Jul 8, 2010 at 2:04 PM, Dean Landolt <d...@deanlandolt.com> wrote: > I imagine node+anything would be fine. There's clearly a wide array of > skillsets here, so why not. I think the key point is that it's *node*+x.
On Thu, Jul 8, 2010 at 2:46 PM, Isaac Schlueter <i...@izs.me> wrote: > "And thus the NodeJS community so thoroughly embraced the idea, that > the very suggestion became a Post Your Resume thread..."
> I'm sensing that some job postings might actually be serving a need here.
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On Thu, Jul 8, 2010 at 2:59 PM, josh rotenberg <joshrotenb...@gmail.com> wrote: > On Thu, Jul 8, 2010 at 12:48 PM, Isaac Schlueter <i...@izs.me> wrote: >> How would you guys feel about seeing job offers on this list? I worry >> about it being an annoying spammy type thing, especially since a lot >> of recruiters tend to be overly aggressive. ("Oh, there are >> javascripters there? Come work on this rails+jquery job!")
>> But what if it was strictly a job working with NodeJS? Would that be >> something you'd want to see here? Should we create a separate list >> for that so that it doesn't clutter the extremely focused and super >> strictly serious seriousness of this list? ;)
> I'd say allow it with the caveat that it may need to either be > disallowed, moderated, or moved to a separate list if its gets out of > hand. In general it gets annoying when job postings turn in to 300 > message threads about the compensation/expectations/etc. Maybe allow > it if its something like "Job/Company/Location/Link to more > details/Please reply off list if interested."
> Josh
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Gist is you synch your email, WeShop finds when you buy things and how much you paid, then finds you cheaper deals and facilitates order cancel/return.
A bunch of other applications as well like auto ID'ing shared interest groups based on product buys and then facilitating group rate negotiations, etc.
I just started there but they seem like good guys, have legit funding, legit crew, and an entirely too spacious office at 31st and 5th.
Hit me up if you want to chat on it or know people who are awesome and into Node.
I'll also be at NYC.js later
Thanks.
- Ethan
- Ethan 617.460.5544 @estill01
On Jul 8, 2010, at 5:04 PM, Dean Landolt <d...@deanlandolt.com> wrote:
> On Thu, Jul 8, 2010 at 4:53 PM, Jacob Rothstein <jacob.rothst...@gmail.com> wrote: > Out of general curiosity and as someone who will also be hiring soon, > I'm curious what the "other language" mix is here. How many pure-js > folks (wouldn't take a job if it required another language) vs ruby vs > python vs ...? This seems like it would be relevant to anyone looking > to hire noders in a not-only-node-yet position. Would this be better > as a wufoo or docs survey? Has it been asked before?
> I imagine node+anything would be fine. There's clearly a wide array of skillsets here, so why not. I think the key point is that it's node+x. > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "nodejs" group. > To post to this group, send email to nodejs@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to nodejs+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/nodejs?hl=en.
I'm all for seeing some node job postings here. I'd love to work on node stuff all the time.
On Thu, Jul 8, 2010 at 7:32 PM, <r...@tinyclouds.org> wrote: > As long as the posting is node specific, it's okay with me.
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So, I've had the idea for a node-related job site for a while, mostly due to my observation of client demand for real-time development and the lack of Node-specific opportunities. After seeing this thread I decided to take action... So last night I hacked together a job board site. I'm offering it to the community for free as is. No frills, no profiteering, etc. Just a simple "post and read" site, ala Craigslist style.
1. Keep it free; 2. Promote all things Node; 3. Help foster community growth;
Post to either the forum or the site, both instances would show up on the job board. Group posts that have the tag "JOB:" is in the title will automatically show up on NodeJobs.com.
Perhaps this would help foster awareness, legitimacy, ecosystem, community, etc.
On Fri, Jul 9, 2010 at 9:52 AM, Terry Martin <terryzmar...@gmail.com> wrote: > So, I've had the idea for a node-related job site for a while, mostly due > to my observation of client demand for real-time development and the lack of > Node-specific opportunities. After seeing this thread I decided to take > action... So last night I hacked together a job board site. I'm offering it > to the community for free as is. No frills, no profiteering, etc. Just a > simple "post and read" site, ala Craigslist style.
> 1. Keep it free; > 2. Promote all things Node; > 3. Help foster community growth;
> Post to either the forum or the site, both instances would show up on the > job board. Group posts that have the tag "JOB:" is in the title will > automatically show up on NodeJobs.com.
> Perhaps this would help foster awareness, legitimacy, ecosystem, community, > etc.
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