Local co-location

[Howard White]

The boss says get me three quotes for locating a half rack of servers
with a 20 amp circuit and 8-10mbs network. We'll be installing our
servers. Looking for Metro Davidson or surrounding so we could be hands
on within a couple of hours (i.e. not Knoxville, Memphis or Atlanta).
Primary criteria - we're cheap.

Co-lo sites keep changing hands and vanishing. What's out there. Yeah,
we know about Peak10.

Howard

[Tim O'Guin]

No recommendations from me, but please keep us posted on what you find. I'll most likely be looking for the same thing within the next 6 months.

Howard

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[Andrew Farnsworth]

http://tnweb.com/

They are in Lewisburg and have hosted my server for years... all good.

Andy

Howard

[Tim Jackson]

Not sure if the guy I used to work for are still doing it, but check them out:

iRis Networks:

www.iristransport.com

Howard

[Gibson Prichard]

I second Tim's suggestion of iRis Networks and can also suggest Time
Warner, Sprint & Level3, both of whom have datacenters locally.
TimeWarner may be slightly cheaper, but they all can meet the need and
all have sites off I-440 in Berry Hill or near the State Fairgrounds.

Gibson Prichard

On Wed, Oct 3, 2012 at 2:47 PM, Tim Jackson <jacks...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Not sure if the guy I used to work for are still doing it, but check them
> out:
>
> iRis Networks:
>
> www.iristransport.com
>
> On Wed, Oct 3, 2012 at 2:38 PM, Howard White <hwh...@vcch.com> wrote:
>>
>> The boss says get me three quotes for locating a half rack of servers with
>> a 20 amp circuit and 8-10mbs network. We'll be installing our servers.
>> Looking for Metro Davidson or surrounding so we could be hands on within a
>> couple of hours (i.e. not Knoxville, Memphis or Atlanta). Primary criteria -
>> we're cheap.
>>
>> Co-lo sites keep changing hands and vanishing. What's out there. Yeah,
>> we know about Peak10.
>>
>> Howard
>>
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[Michael E. Jaggers]

Mike Hardrick (Owner) at tnweb is good people.  I used him for years when I had a consulting gig in Lewisburg.  Mike is on the NLUG mailing list, so he should get back if he ever reads his mail.

Mike

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From: Andrew Farnsworth
Sent: Oct 3, 2012 2:46 PM
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Subject: Re: [nlug] Local co-location

http://tnweb.com/

They are in Lewisburg and have hosted my server for years... all good.

Andy

On Wed, Oct 3, 2012 at 3:38 PM, Howard White <hwh...@vcch.com> wrote:

The boss says get me three quotes for locating a half rack of servers with a 20 amp circuit and 8-10mbs network.  We'll be installing our servers.  Looking for Metro Davidson or surrounding so we could be hands on within a couple of hours (i.e. not Knoxville, Memphis or Atlanta). Primary criteria - we're cheap.

Co-lo sites keep changing hands and vanishing.  What's out there.  Yeah, we know about Peak10.

Howard

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[John R. Dennison]

On Wed, Oct 03, 2012 at 03:10:32PM -0500, Michael E. Jaggers wrote:

<HTML junk removed>

Please do not post in HTML-only to mailing lists. Thanks.




John
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[Blake Dunlap]

TNWEB, Nexus Group, Peak10, Sungard, ICGLink, TimeWarner, Whatever Dolphini is called now, some others are around as well but i forget the names.

Some on the above list offer colo inside others space, while some are full datacenter companies.

You might check the FISPA list for TN for the non big names, though i probably covered the ones close enough to count already.

-Blake

[Michael E. Jaggers]

Soeey, my mistake. Idiot web email interface for Earthlink/Mindspring..... I know better.

Mike

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>

[Michael E. Jaggers]

Reposting in plain text....

Mike Hardrick (Owner) at tnweb is good people. I used him for years when I had a consulting gig in Lewisburg. Mike is on the NLUG mailing list, so he should get back if he ever reads his mail.

Mike


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>From: "Michael E. Jaggers" <m...@mindspring.com>
>Sent: Oct 3, 2012 4:00 PM
>To: nlug...@googlegroups.com
>Subject: Re: [nlug] Local co-location
>
>

>Sorry, my mistake. Idiot web email interface for Earthlink/Mindspring..... I know better.
>
>Mike

[John R. Dennison]

On Wed, Oct 03, 2012 at 04:00:51PM -0500, Michael E. Jaggers wrote:
>
> Soeey, my mistake. Idiot web email interface for
> Earthlink/Mindspring..... I know better.

:)





John
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[Howard White]

On 10/03/2012 04:03 PM, Michael E. Jaggers wrote:
> Reposting in plain text....
>
> Mike Hardrick (Owner) at tnweb is good people. I used him for years when I had a consulting gig in Lewisburg. Mike is on the NLUG mailing list, so he should get back if he ever reads his mail.
>
> Mike
>

Had a nice chat with Mike this afternoon. <wink> He's looking for
someone to update his web site since his wife is now occupied with
children </wink>

Thanks to all who have sent suggestions. In Andy Farnsworth's favorite
signoff - MAIH: More as it happens.

Howard

[Steven S. Critchfield]

Main thing I remember about the colo shopping I did with Basesys back in the day was;
2 main types of colo, Telco style and datacenter style.

In Telco style, you brought everything for your rack, and you had to buy your network in telco circuit increments. Also the access was not 24x7 unless you paid a fee for someone from the facility to roll into the colo too.

In Datacenter style, everything was part of the infrastructure and you just brought the servers and in rack networking. Access is always 24x7 and manned. Remote hands being a possibility.

With the cost of actual hardware maintenance, and such. Now days I see more benefit to the cloud offerings. If you don't have regulations saying how your data is handled, moving out into the cloud might be a better option. If you don't have to rely on special hardware, why buy it up front and deal with it's eventual failure and the cost of that downtime.


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[Alex Smith (K4RNT)]

Yeah, I would recommend looking into cloud offerings before putting a
lot down for datacenter colocation. I was mildly interested in colo
when I was still living in Nashville, and Peak10 was the vendor that I
was most interested in, however I never did get beyond the quote.

Now I have several Amazon EC2 instances that I pay regular price for,
and use them for both remote access, streaming content, hobbyist and
training purposes.

" ' With the first link, the chain is forged. The first speech
censured, the first thought forbidden, the first freedom denied,
chains us all irrevocably.' Those words were uttered by Judge Aaron
Satie as wisdom and warning... The first time any man's freedom is
trodden on we’re all damaged." - Jean-Luc Picard, quoting Judge Aaron
Satie, Star Trek: TNG episode "The Drumhead"
- Alex Smith (K4RNT)
- Dulles Technology Corridor (Chantilly/Ashburn/Dulles), Virginia USA

[Howard White]

On 10/04/2012 07:34 AM, Steven S. Critchfield wrote:
> ----- Original Message -----

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>
> With the cost of actual hardware maintenance, and such. Now days I see more benefit to the cloud offerings. If you don't have regulations saying how your data is handled, moving out into the cloud might be a better option. If you don't have to rely on special hardware, why buy it up front and deal with it's eventual failure and the cost of that downtime.
>
>

I asked the boss "how cloudy" he wanted to get. He hasn't progressed
down that comfort curve yet but needs to. Just getting him to the point
of moving servers out of the office is a big step. The electricity here
is included as part of the rent ;)

Howard

[Steven S. Critchfield]

Whats your data size like? That can be a big decider if cloud is right or not. If you need the station wagon of $media_of_era to move it... Well then cloud isn't a good idea unless it is your own cloud.

I'm assuming from your original post, you need a half rack because you don't plan on moving very many real pieces of hardware. Also knowing that you may not be able to move from half rack to full without relocating again, I assume you don't plan on upgrading again after that.

We had been looking at some software here lately that when in the cloud can monitor load and spin up new servers as load requires and spin them down when not needed. This would let you try and reduce cost as low as possible but not be pricing yourself out of a traffic spike.


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[Howard White]

On 10/04/2012 11:03 AM, Steven S. Critchfield wrote:

<snip>

> If you need the station wagon of $media_of_era to move it...

Love it! :)

Howard

[Greg Donald]

On Thu, Oct 4, 2012 at 10:43 AM, Howard White <hwh...@vcch.com> wrote:
> I asked the boss "how cloudy" he wanted to get.

There are a lot of great reasons to use someone like Rackspace Cloud
or EC2 instead of colo:

My favorite one is how telling the boss the Rackspace Cloud bill is
gonna go up by $40/month is a lot easier to sell than "May I please
have $2K for a new web server?" :)


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Greg Donald

[Tim Jackson]

http://vijaygill.wordpress.com/2010/08/09/cloud-economics/

This is something to look at, it's a couple of years old, but probably still very accurate.

[Jonathan Sheehan]

>> On Thu, Oct 4, 2012 at 10:43 AM, Howard White <hwh...@vcch.com> wrote:
>> > I asked the boss "how cloudy" he wanted to get.

Sorry Howard, this is only tangentially related to your thread:

I met a frood from the Nashville office of Joyent <http://joyent.com>
this weekend at the Marymount knap-in
<http://flintknappers.com/events.php> and he said he'd be interested
in coming, or sending one of their engineers, to talk at some future
NLUG meeting. Apparently, they provide cloud services for e.g.
mobile.linkedin.com. I'm happy to follow-up if there's interest.

Just a thought,
-J'n

[Howard White]

I like the thought a whole bunch, Jon. If you would complete the
introduction, we are in need of a presentation February 12, 2013 if that
suits Joyent. Any and all are welcome to join us at meetings and we'll
allow them five minutes to shamelessly introduce themselves.

Thanks for thinkin' of us.

Howard

[Alex Smith (K4RNT)]

I like Joyent's product offerings, just never gave them a try. I like
their work with StormOS. :)

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[Alex Smith (K4RNT)]

er, SmartOS. :)