What is going on? Why is nobody handling this terrible spam situation??
Geula Stoliar
I subscribed here to learn how to work with kernels. Instead, I’m being swamped with spam. You guys are very quick to jump on someone who accidentally wrote the answer above the question, or asked something which can be found independently after 3 weeks of search on the ‘net. How about handling THIS situation??
G.
Erik Mouw
Spammers exist and harvest mailing list archives, film at eleven.
Put this in your .procmailrc before other rules:
:0fw
* < 400000
| /usr/bin/spamassassin
:0:
* ^X-Spam-Status: Yes
spam
For more information: man spamassassin, man procmail.
Erik
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Erik Mouw
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Rik van Riel
> How about handling THIS situation??
Are you volunteering to handle the kernelnewbies mailing
list while I'm asleep ?
Last night I already blocked yahoogroups from sending any
kind of email to kernelnewbies, but apparently that wasn't
enough for this flood ;(
If I get one more problem like this in the futurue, I will
ban all email from Yahoo to anywhere on NL.linux.org.
People using Yahoo for email may want to get an account
elsewhere.
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Therefore, if you write the code as cleverly as possible, you are,
by definition, not smart enough to debug it." - Brian W. Kernighan
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Sanjar Jalilov
Hi,
mail handling and SPAM filtering is task of the mail-list maintainers.
I will probably leave the list if it will stay in same condition.
Regards,
Sanjar
Usman S. Ansari
>Last night I already blocked yahoogroups from sending any
>kind of email to kernelnewbies, but apparently that wasn't
>enough for this flood ;(
>
>If I get one more problem like this in the futurue, I will
>ban all email from Yahoo to anywhere on NL.linux.org.
>People using Yahoo for email may want to get an account
>elsewhere.
>
Perhaps a better solution would be to
1. Posting only from members of the list.
2. To become member of the list requires approval from mail admin
3. Any email spanning the list is unsubscribbed
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Colin Leroy
Hi,
> 1. Posting only from members of the list.
> 2. To become member of the list requires approval from mail admin
> 3. Any email spanning the list is unsubscribbed
Steps 2 and 3 are unnecessary. Spammers don't go through the hassle of
subscribing, they just go and spam the next victim.
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Colin
K.R. Foley
> Geula Stoliar wrote:
>> I subscribed here to learn how to work with kernels. Instead, I’m being
>> swamped with spam. You guys are very quick to jump on someone who
>> accidentally wrote the answer above the question, or asked something
>> which can be found independently after 3 weeks of search on the ‘net.
>> How about handling THIS situation??
>> G.
>
> Hi,
> mail handling and SPAM filtering is task of the mail-list maintainers.
> I will probably leave the list if it will stay in same condition.
>
> Regards,
>
> Sanjar
>
First, I believe that the maintainer(s) of this list are probably doing
so on a volunteer basis. I also believe that he/(they?) are doing a fine
job of it. It is an almost insurmountable task to maintain a list such
as this with ALMOST no spam. It is one thing to try to offer
suggestions in order to help the situation. It is quite another for some
CLUELESS INDIVIDUALS WHO DON'T KNOW JACK ABOUT THE SITUATION to sit back
and whine about the VERY FEW messages that got through before Rick
quickly put a stop to them. If you really are here to learn, perhaps it
would be beneficial to do one of those 3 week searches on the net for
"mailing list etiquette" and stop adding to the noise as I have done
here. ;-)
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kr
Timur Tabi
> Perhaps a better solution would be to
> 1. Posting only from members of the list.
I don't understand why so many Linux mailing lists are open to the public. It's just a
magnet for spammers.
I maintain a mailing list (on Yahoo Groups, ironically) for OS/2 driver developers.
Whenever someone wants to join the mailing list, they are required to first prove to me
that they are an OS/2 developer. This eliminates all the spammers (all of which come from
India, by they way).
Obviously, my mailing list is nowhere near as popular as this one, so a manual process is
too cumbersome. What I suggest is that anyone who wants to join this mailing list should
be emailed a link to a web site. When they visit the site, they are asked a simple
question about programming that only a programmer would know. If they can't answer that
question correctly, then they have no business on this list. After all, you should
already be a programmer to some degree before you attempt to tackle the kernel. Voila,
problem solved!
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Timur Tabi
Staff Software Engineer
timur...@ammasso.com
One thing a Southern boy will never say is,
"I don't think duct tape will fix it."
-- Ed Smylie, NASA engineer for Apollo 13
Usman S. Ansari
> Usman S. Ansari wrote:
>
>> Perhaps a better solution would be to
>> 1. Posting only from members of the list.
>
> I don't understand why so many Linux mailing lists are open to the
> public. It's just a magnet for spammers.
Me too. If somebody is wants to learn or have his/her question answered,
he/she can take extra step to become a member. They can always
unsubscribe latter if they do not want to receive emails and their
question is answered. That is what I do with Fedora Core list.
Usman
Jan Hudec
> Timur Tabi wrote:
>
> >Usman S. Ansari wrote:
> >
> >>Perhaps a better solution would be to
> >>1. Posting only from members of the list.
> >
> >I don't understand why so many Linux mailing lists are open to the
> >public. It's just a magnet for spammers.
>
> Me too. If somebody is wants to learn or have his/her question answered,
> he/she can take extra step to become a member. They can always
No, really not. They must not be required to do this. It is not as much
problem for kernelnewbies, that is more for learning, but all the
linux-* lists are also used for bug-reporting and users who report bugs
must not be required to sign a list, especially such a high-volume one
as linux-kernel.
> unsubscribe latter if they do not want to receive emails and their
> question is answered. That is what I do with Fedora Core list.
You may be happy with it, but many other users won't be. Support lists
should never ever be closed.
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