Officer pronounced dead
- OFR -
>
> Dear "Outlaw Frog...",
>
> I have noted, with much interest, your posts about alleged police misconduct
> and your gloating over the deaths of Law Enforcement officers. Your diatribes
> usually seem to be of a bastardized libertarian bent.
>
> This incident, however, is a departure from your usual "philosophy," and is
> inconsistent with any true libertarian ideals.
>
> While I have witnessed much libertarian discontent on this newsgroup about
> current law enforcement practices, these complaints are usually limited in
> scope to "victimless crimes." In particular:
> 1) Drug laws.
> 2) Gun prohibition laws.
> 3) Prostitution laws.
>
> I am not writing to debate the constitutionality of those laws or how they
> clash with libertarian phiosophy. Instead, I am addressing your apparent glee
> at the death of a Chicago Peace Officer investigating a stolen vehicle. Since
> the vehicle was stolen, the officer was helping a citizen, who the officer had
> never net, assert their property rights.
Wrong, he was hunting.
>To condemn the officer for doing this
> is ideologically inconsistent for you (assuming that you really are a
> libertarian and not an anarchist).
I started out trying to follow Libertarian philosophy, but I feel
that Anarchy has more to offer.
> Similarly, your condemnation of the back-up officers is again inconsistent.
> Their use of deadly force against the suspect in this incident is again
> consistent with libertarian principles, as they were defending the life of
> another person from harm, and preventing the escape of a violent abuser of
> property rights.
Killing the pig was protecting himself from attack.
> I have also noted that you have repeatedly (and rather bizarrely) called for a
> "repeal" of the laws against using force against Peace Officers.
No repealing needed. It's legal.
>How is this
> consistent with libertarian philosophy?
Self defense is always legal.
> That one group of citizens, especially
> a group charged with protected the property rights and individual liberties of
> society as a whole be excluded from the protections afforded to all other
> citizens?
You have the cart before the horse. Thecops, through discretion and
profiling have excluded the black population from equal protection
under the law.
> I would like to see you repond intelligenly and without your normal
> level of malice to that.
Please explain how a Libertarian fights a war against attackers.
Would you wait until you are captured to resist?
> Comments like yours hurt the overall position of libertarians and allow others
> to easily marginalize their veiwpoints.
Search and seizure, confiscation, and smuggling laws were resisted by
the founding fathers.
> Unless, of course, you are really an
> anarchist, which is really more of a pathology and an indication that you are
> in need of intensive mental health care.
You appear to accept the slaughter and imprisonmet of blacks, wholesale.
Is your Libertaria going to allow black men?
Cops are not innocent. They wear the colors. They will take your life.
They kill the innocent to enforce the law. When are you fuckin lame
Libertarians going to addresss the "ethnic cleansing?"
Now I've seen everything, a so-called Libertarian, racist.
How many more blacks will be killed while you fuckin Libertarians
sit and watch? How about acting in their defense?
You have convinced me.
I used to consider myself as a Libertarian-Anarchist.
A Libertarian government that still profiles and discriminates would be
no better than what we have now.
The cops will not stop killing the innocent, until they suffer
casualties.
Votes don't work.
Vote with a bullet.
The voters approved prop.215, the cops follow the wishes of the
government and continue to destroy lives and kill against the
people's wishes.
The rest of the world can see that the US government can't
understand anything but death.
The US government has put itself above the will of the people.
By using deadly force.
Fuck the dead fascist.
> >> >Officer pronounced dead
> >> >
> >> >*****************
> >> >
> >> >Tuesday, 9 March 1999 21:54 (GMT)
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > Chicago officer fatally shot
> >> >
> >> > CHICAGO, March 9 (UPI) - A Chicago police officer is dead following a
> >> > shootout on the city's South Side. The unidentified officer was shot in
> >> > the head (Tuesday afternoon) near Einstein Elementary School. The
> >> > officer was pronounced dead at Cook County Hospital.
> >- Outlaw Frog Raper -
> >
> >news:alt.thebird.copwatch
> >news:alt.law-enforcement
> >
> >
> >
> >
--
- Outlaw Frog Raper -
news:alt.thebird.copwatch
news:alt.law-enforcement
- OFR -
>
> Nope the Negroes have segregated themselves from society by committing MOST of
> the crime.
Wrong, they don't commit the most crimes.
Whites do, in every state. The blacks are just the targets.
Stop sucking the government cock, sexual abuser.
> >> >- Outlaw Frog Raper -
> >> >
> >> >news:alt.thebird.copwatch
> >> >news:alt.law-enforcement
> >
> >You have the cart before the horse. Thecops, through discretion and
> >profiling have excluded the black population from equal protection
> >under the law.
> >
>
> >
--
Zman
- OFR - wrote in message <36E87C...@hotmail.com>...
Ohh...that was good. Did you go up to Chicago and dig that info up all
yourself? Or are you STEREOTYPING??
>You have the cart before the horse. Thecops, through discretion and
>profiling have excluded the black population from equal protection
>under the law.
>
>> >- Outlaw Frog Raper -
>> >
>> >news:alt.thebird.copwatch
>> >news:alt.law-enforcement
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>
- OFR -
Profiling, you invented it.
Still waiting.
Normy...@psycho.com
wrote:
Yes or no... Do you believe this was racially motivated?
- OFR -
>
> On Fri, 12 Mar 1999 15:14:25 -0500, - OFR - <ofr...@hotmail.com>
> wrote:
>
How would I know? I do know that profiling is racially motivated.
Cops hunt niggers, based solely on skin color. It's a fact.
- OFR -
>
> You are, of course, correct.
>
> My point was merely to attempt to display the lack of sense in comments such as
> these by responding to them in a calm, rational and articulate manner.
> The same thing works the vast majority of the times on the streets when
> dealing with the emotionally charged and potentially violent. A little bit of
> verbal judo, common sense and coutresy and respect are much better tools for
> compliance and agreement than harsh language and batons.
>
> At least most of the time.
Yes, Diallo should have used verbal judo on his assassins.
Give it up. Your argument is defenseless.
You are defending killing the innocent by accusing me of
wanting the same. Acting exactly like the cops in these
groups is my attempt to show them what it's like to be black,
Haitian, Puerto Rican, gay, a drug addict, a Mexican, or any
other group the cops profile.
When pigs stop profiling, so will I.
A house divided...
Body count.
Normy...@psycho.com
wrote:
>Normy...@Psycho.com wrote:
>>
>> On Fri, 12 Mar 1999 15:14:25 -0500, - OFR - <ofr...@hotmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> Yes or no... Do you believe this was racially motivated?
>
>
>How would I know? I do know that profiling is racially motivated.
>
>Cops hunt niggers, based solely on skin color. It's a fact.
>
>--
>- Outlaw Frog Raper -
>
>news:alt.thebird.copwatch
>news:alt.law-enforcement
Y'know, for all your rantings about racial cops, you seem to be the
only one here refering to african americans in a derogatory manner.
Who's the racist, fool? By the way, what race is the suspect in the
Chicago case?
- OFR -
> >GBur940099 wrote:
> >>
> >> Nope the Negroes have segregated themselves from society by committing MOST
> >of
> >> the crime.
> >
> >
> >Wrong, they don't commit the most crimes.
> >
> >Whites do, in every state. The blacks are just the targets.
> WRONG. The Negrones committ more crime proportionately than any other racial
> group in America. Proven, according to the FBI UCR statistics. NOW REFUTE
> THAT.
That is an entirely different issue. You are referring to the
disproportionate arrest statistics.
Proportionately, they are arrested more than their population
percentage.
That is because they target their prey based on past
practice.(profiling)
Racial profiling is the reason for disproportionate incarceration.
I have the facts. You are a mindless puppet.
60% of blacks arrested go to prison. 10% of whites do.
Whites get probation and blacks get prison.
Did you get prison when you were convicted?
Would a black man charged with a sex crime get probation?
- OFR -
>
> On Fri, 12 Mar 1999 17:16:40 -0500, - OFR - <ofr...@hotmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> >Normy...@Psycho.com wrote:
> >>
> >> On Fri, 12 Mar 1999 15:14:25 -0500, - OFR - <ofr...@hotmail.com>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >
> >
> >How would I know? I do know that profiling is racially motivated.
> >
> >Cops hunt niggers, based solely on skin color. It's a fact.
> >
> >- Outlaw Frog Raper -
> >
> >news:alt.thebird.copwatch
> >news:alt.law-enforcement
>
> only one here refering to african americans in a derogatory manner.
I'm using the police terminology.
> Who's the racist, fool?
The pigs.
>By the way, what race is the suspect in the
> Chicago case?
Who cares? Fuck the dead drug warrior.
On with the body count!
Zman
guns or both?
--
Zman
- OFR - wrote in message <36E975...@hotmail.com>...
Zman
- OFR - wrote in message <36E992...@hotmail.com>...
>Normy...@Psycho.com wrote:
>>
>> On Fri, 12 Mar 1999 15:14:25 -0500, - OFR - <ofr...@hotmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>
>
>How would I know? I do know that profiling is racially motivated.
>
>Cops hunt niggers, based solely on skin color. It's a fact.
>
>- Outlaw Frog Raper -
>
>news:alt.thebird.copwatch
>news:alt.law-enforcement
Pot calling kettle black...insert foot in mouth and chew loser.
Zman
Zman
only speaks in fragments.
--
Zman
- OFR - wrote in message <36E993...@hotmail.com>...
Ralph
76....@worldnet.att.net says...
>
> - OFR - wrote in message <36E992...@hotmail.com>...
> >Normy...@Psycho.com wrote:
> >>
>
> Pot calling kettle black...insert foot in mouth and chew loser.
>
> Zman
Trying to reason with OFR is like trying to control a suspect on PCP.
It can't be done. :-)
Normy...@psycho.com
Yeah, but it sure is fun watching his "logic" unravel....