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Subject: Re: Nitrogen ++ ChicagoBoss , ChicagoBoss ++ Nitrogen
From: Jesse Gumm <g...@sigma-star.com>
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Thanks Florent!
One of these days, I'll spend a little time playing with CB to get a good
feel for it. From reading about it and seeing the split off of BossNews and
BossDB stuff (which are fully cool), I know that integration would
definitely be easier.
It definitely does seen like the two solve different problems, and that
lends itself well to cross-integration.
--
Jesse Gumm
Owner, Sigma Star Systems
414.940.4866 || sigma-star.com || @jessegumm
On Sep 14, 2012 8:13 AM, "Florent Gallaire" <fgalla...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Cross-posted on the Chicago Boss thread :
>
> I played with Nitrogen this last days. It's an incredible, awesome work.
> As said before, it's a very different of CB. It's not a clean MVC
> framework but all about magical autogeneration of JS (Ajax and Comet).
> For some people, as me, who absolutly doesn't want write JS, it's a must
> have !
>
> Nitrogen hasn't routing system nor ORM so it could be really improved
> by an integration in CB : routing system + BossDB and specialy the
> asynchronous (as Nitrogen) BossNews.
>
> The only integration to do is to switch from the Nitrogen template
> language to erlydtl.
>
> This could be a very interesting option to have the Nitrogen power
> inside a clean CB integration (instead of a Nitrogen + webmachine +
> BossDB + erlydtl hack).
>
> Best regards
>
> Florent
>
> On Thu, May 31, 2012 at 6:59 AM, Jesse Gumm <g...@sigma-star.com> wrote:
> > Oh, and Overmind, Riak support is currently experimental in BossDB, so
> > maybe it's worth another look. At least, that is, according to it's
> > Readme in github.
> >
> > -Jesse
> >
> > On Wed, May 30, 2012 at 11:57 PM, Jesse Gumm <g...@sigma-star.com>
> wrote:
> >> Well, there's no real need to *merge* BossDB into Nitrogen, as it's a
> >> standalone app that - if you wanted to - you could just link it as a
> >> rebar dependency easily enough.
> >>
> >> But I understand the aversions to generalized DB abstraction layers -
> >> there's only so much you can abstract away. But it's definitely a
> >> noble cause, and I admit the idea of the post and pre-hooks in BossDB
> >> intrigue me.
> >>
> >> Just for fun, I should build something in ChicagoBoss just to get the
> >> feel for it.
> >>
> >> -Jesse
> >>
> >> On Wed, May 30, 2012 at 11:50 PM, Steffen Panning
> >> <steffen.pann...@googlemail.com> wrote:
> >>> Hi,
> >>>
> >>>> I use Nitrogen (embedded) and I love it. I have not used ChicagoBoss,
> >>>> and from I know of its DB wrappers I doubt I would use them
> >>>
> >>> Same here. I had some very disappointing experiences with DB wrappers
> >>> and tend to avoid them now.
> >>>
> >>> Steffen
> >>>
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> >>
> >>
> >> --
> >> Jesse Gumm
> >> Owner, Sigma Star Systems
> >> 414.940.4866 || sigma-star.com || @jessegumm
> >
> >
> >
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<p>Thanks Florent!</p>
<p>One of these days, I'll spend a little time playing with CB to get a=
good feel for it. From reading about it and seeing the split off of BossNe=
ws and BossDB stuff (which are fully cool), I know that integration would d=
efinitely be easier.</p>
<p>It definitely does seen like the two solve different problems, and that =
lends itself well to cross-integration.</p>
<p>--<br>
Jesse Gumm<br>
Owner, Sigma Star Systems<br>
414.940.4866 || <a href=3D"http://sigma-star.com">sigma-star.com</a> || @je=
ssegumm</p>
<div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Sep 14, 2012 8:13 AM, "Florent Gallaire&=
quot; <<a href=3D"mailto:fgalla...@gmail.com">fgalla...@gmail.com</a>>=
; wrote:<br type=3D"attribution"><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D=
"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
Cross-posted on the Chicago Boss thread :<br>
<br>
I played with Nitrogen this last days. It's an incredible, awesome work=
.<br>
As said before, it's a very different of CB. It's not a clean MVC<b=
r>
framework but all about magical autogeneration of JS (Ajax and Comet).<br>
For some people, as me, who absolutly doesn't want write JS, it's a=
must have !<br>
<br>
Nitrogen hasn't routing system nor ORM so it could be really improved<b=
r>
by an integration in CB : routing system + BossDB and specialy the<br>
asynchronous (as Nitrogen) BossNews.<br>
<br>
The only integration to do is to switch from the Nitrogen template<br>
language to erlydtl.<br>
<br>
This could be a very interesting option to have the Nitrogen power<br>
inside a clean CB integration (instead of a Nitrogen + webmachine +<br>
BossDB + erlydtl hack).<br>
<br>
Best regards<br>
<br>
Florent<br>
<br>
On Thu, May 31, 2012 at 6:59 AM, Jesse Gumm <<a href=3D"mailto:gumm@sigm=
a-star.com">g...@sigma-star.com</a>> wrote:<br>
> Oh, and Overmind, Riak support is currently experimental in BossDB, so=
<br>
> maybe it's worth another look. At least, that is, according to it&=
#39;s<br>
> Readme in github.<br>
><br>
> -Jesse<br>
><br>
> On Wed, May 30, 2012 at 11:57 PM, Jesse Gumm <<a href=3D"mailto:gum=
m...@sigma-star.com">g...@sigma-star.com</a>> wrote:<br>
>> Well, there's no real need to *merge* BossDB into Nitrogen, as=
it's a<br>
>> standalone app that - if you wanted to - you could just link it as=
a<br>
>> rebar dependency easily enough.<br>
>><br>
>> But I understand the aversions to generalized DB abstraction layer=
s -<br>
>> there's only so much you can abstract away. But it's defin=
itely a<br>
>> noble cause, and I admit the idea of the post and pre-hooks in Bos=
sDB<br>
>> intrigue me.<br>
>><br>
>> Just for fun, I should build something in ChicagoBoss just to get =
the<br>
>> feel for it.<br>
>><br>
>> -Jesse<br>
>><br>
>> On Wed, May 30, 2012 at 11:50 PM, Steffen Panning<br>
>> <<a href=3D"mailto:steffen.pann...@googlemail.com">steffen.pann=
i...@googlemail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
>>> Hi,<br>
>>><br>
>>>> I use Nitrogen (embedded) and I love it. =A0I have not use=
d ChicagoBoss,<br>
>>>> and from I know of its DB wrappers I doubt I would use the=
m<br>
>>><br>
>>> Same here. I had some very disappointing experiences with DB w=
rappers<br>
>>> and tend to avoid them now.<br>
>>><br>
>>> Steffen<br>
>>><br>
>>> --<br>
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le.com/group/nitrogenweb?hl=3Den</a>.<br>
>>><br>
>><br>
>><br>
>><br>
>> --<br>
>> Jesse Gumm<br>
>> Owner, Sigma Star Systems<br>
>> <a href=3D"tel:414.940.4866" value=3D"+14149404866">414.940.4866</=
a> || <a href=3D"http://sigma-star.com" target=3D"_blank">sigma-star.com</a=
> || @jessegumm<br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
> --<br>
> Jesse Gumm<br>
> Owner, Sigma Star Systems<br>
> <a href=3D"tel:414.940.4866" value=3D"+14149404866">414.940.4866</a> |=
| <a href=3D"http://sigma-star.com" target=3D"_blank">sigma-star.com</a> ||=
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