.

[Paul Beattie]

Border victims and incidents of intimidation in that area to be posted to
the board next week.

April 1995
Portstewart Lighthouse LOL 579. Hall broken into and vandalised; banner
stolen; attempted arson.
June 1995
Portstewart Lighthouse LOL 579. Hall door and door-frame destroyed as
result of ramming with a telegraph pole.
1991 - 1996
Portstewart Lighthouse LOL 579. Numerous incidents: flags stolen and
windows broken; outer walls marked with graffiti and results of paint
bombs. Attacks so severe that the windows have had to be hoarded up, and
the hall has the appearance of a derelict building.
May 1996
Killygullib OH, Kilrea Dist. Attempted arson; windows broken.
May 1996
Grove OH, Garvagh Dist. Windows broken, arson resulting in severe damage
May 1996
Maghera Orange Hall. Windows broken.
30 May 96
Bolting Road, Cough. Home attacked; windows broken with stones.
June 1996
Antrim. Bandsman from the Steeple Flute Band beaten up by local RCs on his
way home from a parade.
July 1996
Donaghmore. Petrol bomb attack on Unionist family.
July 1996
Killinslee. Petrol bomb attack on Unionist family.
July 1996
Donaghmore Parish Hall. Arson attack.
July 1996
Robert McCullagh, Keady. Protestant-owned bakery petrol-bombed.
July 1996
Orange Hall on outskirts of Newry was attacked as were several Protestant
homes in the nearby estate. Arson attack.
July 1996
Armagh Shops burned
July 1996
Bovea Orange Hall. Hall attacked and windows broken.
July 1996
Largy Orange Hall. Hall attacked and windows broken.
July 1996
Markville, Bleary. House broken into; Orange and Black collarettes, bowler
hat and gloves stolen (among other valuables). Regalia etc. later seen on a
republican bonfue.
July 1996
Oakdene Park, Bleary. Letters received warning householder not to display
Union or Ulster flags.
? July 1996
Cedar Drive, Bleary. Family moved house because of intimidation.
? July 1996
Sugarisland Road, Bleary. House petrol bombed; living room destroyed.
? July 1996
Sugarisland Road, Bleary. Second Unionist family in same road threatened
because of the foregoing incident - 24-hour watch kept on its property.
? July 1996
Sugarisland Road, Bleary. Third Unionist family in same road perceives
itself to be threatened because of the above incident - 24-hour watch kept
on its property.
? July 1996
Water Street, off Garvaghy Rd Derelict houses covered with republican
graffiti, e.g. "Drumcree will burn' and 'IRA".
7 July 96
The Meadows, Antrim. Flag on the side of a private dwelling house belonging
to a Mrs Pears burnt.
8 July 96
Dublin Rd estate, Antrim. Local teenagers at site of their 12th bonfire
threatened by Nationalist gang. Bonfire material later set alight, and
estate daubed with IRA slogans.
8 July 96
Dundrod Orange Hall. Arson attack.
8 July 96
Tandragee Town Centre. Two young loyalists threatened by three local
nationalists, who tell them they will be "dealt with" after July.
8 July 96
Aldergrove Airport. Peaceful protest by Orangemen and supporters attacked
by DMSU; several children, adults and 5 pensioners severely beaten by
police.
9 July 96
Madden Road Tandragee. Protestant-owned Lorry used in a roadblock burned
out by nationalist gang
10 July 96
Pattonville, Dungannon Arson attack.

10 July 96
Windmill Heights, Dungannon. Arson attack on Protestant-owned Spar shop.
10 July 96
Lindsayville, Tullyhogue. Tyre store and large quantity of tyres destroyed
in arson attack.
10 July 96
Rectory Road, Arson attack on private Protestant-owned house, extensive
damage.
10 July 96
Mrs Smith, Loughbrickland. Boycott of Protestant-owned local milk round by
30 to 35 customers.
10 July 96
Henning, Banbridge. Boycott of butcher's shop. Later burnt-out
10 July 96
Bairds shop, Banbridge. Boycott by Roman Catholics. Later burnt out
July 1996
Schomberg estate. Intimidating telephone calls to local Protestant family.
11 July 1996
Bleary Road. Flag stolen from an upstairs window. The RUC refused to come
to occupier's assistance, but did arrive on the scene the following morning
to warn her not to defend herself or her property by any other means other
than those of the RUC. The premises were bombed on the evening of the 12th
of July. Rainey family left Pomeroy.
11 July 96
Teebane Memorial, Ballygawley. Memorial destroyed when lorry deliberately
drove into it.
11 July 96
Alec Smyth, attacked while walking home from pub by a Roman Catholic youth
from Mullaghglass Rd. Mr Smyth was knocked down by the jeep the youth was
driving. The driver then jumped out of the vehicle and attempted to hit Mr
Smyth with a pickaxe handle. Mr Smyth staggered home, where the police and
an ambulance were called, and the victim was taken to hospital. The
assailant, however, remained at the scene, but although RUC constables did
arrive, he was not arrested or charged. He has also been subjected over a
period to continual intimidation by Nationalist gangs from the Colin Glen
Road and Twinbrook. The RUC refuses to take any action on this
intimidation.
11 July 96
McLean family, Donaghmore. Petrol bombed.
11 July 96
Fulton family & others, Bellaghy. Windows broken and threatened by a crowd
of Nationalist protesters. Family has lived in Bellaghy for 40 years. Other
Protestant families in the village have also been told to leave.
12 July 96
Tullywister OH, nr Castlederg. Two arson attempts.
12 July 96
Ballinderry Bridge. 400 bales of hay destroyed in fire, which subsequently
took hold of and destroyed three barns and several head of livestock.
12 July 96
Salteratown Orange Hall. Arson attempt
12 July 96
Michael Boyd, Coalisland. House windows broken.
13 July 96
Lex Barker, Coalisland. Intimidated and told to leave.
13 July 96
Paul Cranston, Moy. Cranston's Fuels: severe boycott by RCs, including the
withdrawal of contracts by two large companies
13 July 96
Joe Walker, Moy. Owner of petrol station and supermarket Business is being
boycotted and Mr Walker and his wife have been subjected to intimidation,
threats and harassment.
11July 96
Moy. Businessman subjected to intimidation and boycott; has been
photographed working in his shop by known local nationalists, and has had
his premises blocked by a nearby Catholic-owned business nearby.
11 July 96
Supermarket, petrol pumps, hardware and machinery hire business being
boycotted by RCs. Mr Greenaway says that an loyal Roman Catholic customer
told him that three local chapels had directed parishioners not to give him
business. This man later went on record to make a statement.
11 July 96
Near Tullyhogue, Cookstown. Protestant forced from work vehicle which was
later burnt as the attackers set about the driver with axe handles.
11 July 96
Presbyterian Church Hall, Strabane. Church Hall attacked and 13 windows
smashed.
11 July 96
Linton & Robinson, Strabane. Protestant-owned shop: windows smashed. Four
members of staff, including one Roman Catholic intimidated by phone
11 July 96
J C MeBurney, Markethill. At approx. 9.45 am, while at a blockade on the
main Armagh-Newry road at Markethill, Mr McBurney was hit by a small lorry.
He was dragged face down for about 15 metres. His left collar bone was
broken and right shoulder blade crushed. In addition, he suffered injuries
to his spine, a broken rib, and a collapsed lung, and had extensive
friction burns from waist to forehead. He spent one day in intensive care
at Daisy Hill Hospital, Newry, 4 days in intensive care at Craigavon
Hospital, and a further 12 days in an ordinary ward at Craigavon. The
driver of the lorry did not stop until he reached Newry, where he went to
the police station. His co-driver jumped out of the lorry and ran away
across fields. The RUC is refusing to take any action against the driver of
the lorry, who is a known , and has advised Mr McBurney not to take the
matter further.

12 July 96 Markethill. Unionist owned shops boycotted - posters
12 July 96 Portglenone. Boycotting of Unionist owned businesses - posters
12 July 96 Aughnacloy. Boycotting of Unionist owned businesses by local
Republicans - poster campaign
12 July 96 Aughnacloy. General intimidation of Unionists living in the
area. 42 separate incidents of intimidation via phone-call; 23 incidents of
verbal abuse; 21 incidents of physical intimidation including four homes
being burnt out, and seven incidents of actual bodily harm.
12 July 96 Aicken's clothes shop, Portglenone. Boycotting of Protestant
owned business- poster campaign
12 July 96 Stewart's Buchers, Portglenone. Boycotting of Unionist owned
business.
12 July 96 Bellaghy Orange Hall. Paint splattered over the Hall.
12 July 96 Bellaghy. Unionist householders threatened with stoning of
houses if they refused to remove flags.
12 July 96 Billy Pickering, Bellaghy. Home stoned, occupant forced to
leave.
12 July 96 Gerry Fullerton, Bellaghy. Forced out of home.
12 July 96 Mrs Stewart, Bellaghy. Forced out of home.
12 July 96 Ashfield, Bellaghy. Windows of home smashed a number of times.
12 July 96 Mr Moore, Bellaghy Threatening phone calls.
12 July 96 Mr Evans, Bellaghy Threatening phone calls.
12 July 96 Bellaghy "Prods out" slogans painted on fronts of several
Protestant homes
12 July 96 Magherafelt Town Centre Flags removed from poles throughout town
centre. 12 July 96 Hillhead, Castledawson Flag removed.
12 July 96 Coolistown. Several Unionist owned businesses boycotted; Roman
Catholic staff warned not to work for Protestants.
12 July 96 Simpsons, Cookstown. Shop being boycotted - posters.
12 July 96 Eaglesons, Cookstown. Shop being boycotted - posters/phone-calls

12 July 96 Gortgonis Road, Coalisland. Arson attack on office block.
12 July 96 Lex Butler, Coalisland House attacked and windows broken.
12 July 96 Tommy Templeton, Coalisland. House attacked and windows broken
on two occasions.
12 July 96 Stevenson's Builders Supplies Only remaining Unionist owned
business in Coalisland attacked.
12 July 96 Roy Wilkie, Coalisland Manager of Stevenson's - received a
message threatening to shoot him.
12 July 96 Ernest Watt, Dungannon Economic boycott. - poster campaigns
12 July 96 Nelsons, Moygashel. Economic boycott - poster campaigns
12 July 96 J Patton, Garden Centre, Dugannon. Economic boycott - poster
campaigns/arson attack
12 July 96 Newtownstewart. Some RCs close their accounts at the Northern
Bank alter rumours that an assistant manager was an Orangeman.
12 July 96 West Belfast. Employee of Unionist contractor, Ernie Graham, had
his digger taken from him. When he went to retrieve it a crowd of
nationalists, denoted by the slogans written on the digger burned it in
front of him, forcing him to watch. They then made him urinate into a cup
and drink his own urine.
12 July 96 Petrol Station-supermarket, C'island Built by Stevenson's,
although occupied by RC tenants. Petrol bombed.
12 July 96 Chambres OH, Stewartstown. At approx. 6.00 pm, Republican youths
attacked Charnbres Orange Hall while the lodge was having tea. Although
members of the RUC were present, no arrests were made.
12 July 96 Sinclairs shop, Stewartstown. Attacked late in the evening.
Petrol bombs thrown at the building, and windows broken. Jim Sinclair and
his son were able to throw the petrol bombs out of the shop again. RUC
constables who came to the scene left again to obtain reinforcements. They
did not return until calm had returned to the area.
12 July 96 Antrim. House of the Master of an Orange Lodge in Antrim
District No.13 attacked and windows broken. No serious injuries, although
the family were badly frightened.
12 July 96 Antrim. House of a Lodge member from Antrim District No.13
attacked.
12 July 96 Newtowncrommelin, nr B'mena. Orange Hall destroyed in arson
attack.
12 July 96 Newtowncrommelin, nr B'mena. Arson attack on hayshed.
12 July 96 Moore's Garage, Randalstown. Arson attack; the device failed to
ignite properly.
12 July 96 Randalstown. Petrol bomb thrown at youths attending a bonfire;
also threatened.
12 July 96 Randalstown Orange Hall. Two petrol bombs thrown at the Hall;
little damage. 12 July 96 Blackwatertown Extensive damage to hayshed.
12 July 96 Newtownbutler Orange Hall. Hall attacked and windows broken.
12 July 96 Blackford Bridge, Donaghmore. Arson attack on house. 12 July 96
Church of Ireland Hall, Ballygawley. Set on fire on
12 July at 5.20 am; porch destroyed, and building suffered extensive smoke
damage.
12 July 96 James Street, Methodist Church Hall set on fire; scorch damage
to floor and smoke damage to adjoining Church.
12 July 96 St Patricks C of I Cathedral, Armagh. Front doors of Cathedral
set on fire.
12 July 96 Corcraine OH, Portadown Arson attack; scorch damage.
12 July 96 Kilnaslee, Donaghmore. Arson attack on house; scorch damage.
12 July 96 Sweep Road, Cookstown Digger damaged at building site.
12 July 96 Mulnahinch OH, nr Cabragh. Arson attack - the fourth in recent
years.
12 July 96 Ballynahinch. Bottle thrown through windscreen of car, injuring
woman.
12 July 96 Bishopscourt. Local businessman intimidated by two masked men
brandishing baseball bats. Told to leave district.
12 July 96 Killough. Windows of house smashed; graffiti daubed on garage
wall.
12 July 96 Bryansford. Rioters petrol bomb car showroom; plate glass window
broken and five vehicles damaged.
12 July 96 Marnamaghery OH, nr Saintfield Arson attack.
12 July 96 Joe Fleming, Strabane. Arson attack on garden supplies shop;
premises gutted.
12 July 96 Shiels, Strabane. Practically every window in a Unionist owned
furniture shop broken in a sustained attack.
12 July 96 Shiels, Strabane. Two vans belonging to the business were
destroyed in an arson attack on their Church Street yard.
12 July 96 Strabane High School. Windows broken in a sectarian attack.
12 July 96 Strabane Primary School. Windows broken in a sectarian attack.
12 July 96 Apostolic Church, Strabane. The church at Melmont Road,
Strabane, was attacked; the building was ransacked and chairs and hymn
books scattered about. An unsuccessful attempt was made to set fire to the
building.
12 July 96 Lower Markey Street,? Rioters fire rockets at members of several
Orange Lodges.
13 July 96 Castlewellan. Rioters smash a number of windows in a hardware
store.
13 July 96 Blue Row, Castlewellan. Unionist homes attacked by Republican
youths.
13 July 96 Castlewellan Primary School. Arson attack on a portacabin
classroom at the school at Mill Hill.
13 July 96 Tyrooney OH, nr Carrickmore. Arson attack; scorch damage to
front doors. 13 July 96 Greencastle. Arson attack at quarry destroys
portacabin office and damages lorry. 13 July 96 Greenpan OH, Lisnabogan.
Arson attack; scorch damage.
13 July 96 Killyleagh Road. Arson attack damages 5 mechanical diggers and
office accommodation.
13 July 96 The Square, Moy. Lorries burned, belonging to local Protestant
businessman. 13 July 96 Milltown Street, Dungannon. Arson attack on
caravan.
13 July 96 Masonic Hall, Coalisland. Arson attack.
13 July 96 Dunavon Park, Arson attack.
13 July 96 Lisnahull Park, Arson attack.
13 July 96 Moneymore Orange Hall. Arson attack.
13 July 96 Church of Ireland Church Hall, Dungiven. Completely destroyed by
petrol bombs. Had been a new hall just opened in May 96, at a cost of
£130,000.
13 July 96 Dungiven Post Office. Petrol bomb attack.
13 July 96 Dungiven High School. Computer room destroyed.
13 July 96 Uppr Main St. Dungiven Home belonging to the Keys family stoned
by Nationalists. The family has now left
13 July 96 Uppr Main St, Dungiven. Protestant Pensioner threatened.
13 July 96 Limavady Orange Hall. Petrol bomb attack.
13 July 96 Bovea Orange Hall. Hall attacked and windows broken (2nd recent
attack). 13 July 96 Largy Orange Hall. Hall attacked and windows broken
(2nd recent attack). 13 July 96 Feeny. Threats to burn the Post Office -
postmaster is Protestant.
13 July 96 Feeny. Threats to burn dwelling house.
13 July 96 Feeny. Family living in centre of Feeny told that they would be
burned out. The family is moving to Limavady.
13 July 96 St Marks C of I, Tennent St B'fast. Attempted arson attack.
13 July 96 Salterstown Presbyterian Church Hall. Attacked at 9.30 pm; minor
scorch damage.
13 July 96 Louglibrickland Orange Hall. Windows broken.
13 July 96 William Street, Lurgan. Tricolour erected at railway station
before return of Black Preceptories from Bangor. July 96 Foster Memorial
Hall, Coalisland. Sustained fire damage.
14 July 96 The Burryman, Coagh. Hayshed and 500 bales of hay destroyed in
fire, along with bale loader, roller and other equipment.
14 July 96 Fairhill Road, Cookstown. Confectioneryigrocers shop attacked;
windows broken.
14 July 96 Fairhill Road, Cookstown. Windows broken at Protestant owned
business.
14 July 96 Ballygawley Road. Arson attack on tyre depot; office block
gutted.
14 July 96 Sloan Street, Ballygawley. Lorry destroyed in arson attack.
14 July 96 William Street, Arson attack on vacant commercial premises.
14 July 96 Cavanakeeran Road, Pomeroy. Fuel tanker owned by Protestant
business man set on fire.
14 July 96 Rockview Park, Moneymore. Renault car destroyed in arson attack
at private house.
14 July 96 Maghers Road, Moneymore Talbot Express van burned.
14 July 96 Donemana OH, nr Strabane. Hall attacked.
14 July 96 Sion Mills. Orange Hall attacked.
14 July 96 Old Mill, Annsborough. Unionist owned businesses daubed with IRA
slogans; 5 windows smashed; one set on fire.
14 July 96 Newcastle Orange Hall. Orange arch outside the Hall pulled down,
blocking the road.
15 July 96 Greenvale Hotel. Car in car park burned.
15 July 96 Birney Square, Coalisland. Car burned out.
15 July 96 Dungannon Road, Coalisland. Arson attack on petrol station.
15 July 96 Granville Road, Hardware store attacked.
15 July 96 Main Street, Donaghmore. Arson attack on offlicence; scorch
damage.
15 July 96 Charlemont Street, Moy. Arson attack on shop; scorch damage.
15 July 96 Ballygawley Road. Arson attack on petrol station; scorch damage.

15 July 96 Mission Hall, Killeen, Coalisland. Attacked; sustained scorch
damage.
15 July 96 Sixmilecross Orange Hall. Arson attack; hall almost totally
destroyed.
15 July 96 Gospel Hall, Drumanes', B'hinch. Gutted in an arson attack.
15 July 96 Rush, Co. Dublin. Protestant Church suffered arson attack; porch
and a number of ceiling beams damaged.
15 July 96 Cloughfin Orange Hall. Arson attack; attempt made to burn the
hall by setting an Ulsterbus parked outside it on fire.
16 July 96 1st Presbterian Church, Monaghan. A Presbyterian Church due to
celebrate its 300th anniversary was vandalised after a Sinn Fein rally.
Sectarian slogans such as "Prods time to go", "Orange bastards leave now",
"All Protestants RIP" and "IRA" were daubed over the stained glass windows,
250-year gravestones and the walls of the church.
16 July 96 Oldpark Presbyterian Church, Belfast. Church hall attacked;
smoke damage to hall and furniture.
18 July 96 Philip Armstrong, Dungannon. As Mr Armstrong was on his way home
from Moy Park, Dungannon, a brick was thrown through the windscreen of his
car.
19 July 96 Kingsmills Gospel Hall. Hall attacked; nine stained glass
windows broken and front doors prised open. Items of value stolen; paint
daubed on walls
21 July 96 Crossgar. Unionist owned business attacked by Republicans;
windows broken.
20/25 July 96 Brownlow House, Lurgan Petrol bomb thrown through window;
another landed outside. Extensive damage to listed building.
25 July 96 Kingsmills Gospel Hall. Hall attacked and four windows broken.
Second recent attack.
25 July 96 Albany Church Hall. Hall attacked by Republicans and a number
of windows broken.
31 July 96 Ardboe House, of a Mrs Ferguson, a widow living with her only
son (19 years of age), attacked, and outhuildings and the road in front of
the house painted with IRA slogans.
31 July 96 Drumenny Road, Ardboe. Attack on Unonist family; hall window
smashed. late July 96 Lenaderg Post Office and Minion Hall. Destroyed in
arson attack.
late July 96 Crieve Orange Hall, Newry Dist. Destroyed by arson attack.
13 Aug 96 Castlecaulfield RBP Hall. Arson attack. 24 Aug 96 Park Road /
Water Street. Republican youths in the public park broke into the
pavillion. The police were called but refused to respond. The same youths
then went up Park Road causing more trouble, shouting slogans and
destroying several gardens.
24 Aug 96 Woodside. Elderly Protestant resident being tormented by
republican youths. Friends and relatives visiting her are intimidated by
youths who threaten to wreck their cars while parked outside her house. She
is the only Protestant resident on the estate.
31 Aug 96 Bellaghy. Three Unionists attacked by Republicans; one was
hospitalised. Sept 96 Robert Overend Jnr, Bellaghy. Home attacked by RCs
Sept 96 Robert Overend Snr, Bellaghy. Office building destroyed in arson
attack.
6 Sept 96 Steeple Flute Band, Antrim. Band members' bus attacked by
Republicans while bringing them home from a parade.
17 Sept 96 Glenarm village Monkstown man, Ken Auld, holidaying in the
village. stabbed in the head with a screwdriver when he went to remonstrate
with three republican men who were in the process of removing and burning
loyalist flags from posts in Toberwine Street He sustained serious injuries
and police are investigating.
Sept 96 Christ Church, Londonderry. Church of Ireland church gutted in an
arson attack. Pro-IRA slogans daubed on outside walls.

--
"The dream of the child....
.........becomes the hope of the man"

[Paul Beattie]

[Paul Beattie]

"with you it is a million Catholics or nothing"

[snat...@ulster.nildram.co.uk]

Paul Beattie <minih...@hotmail.com> wrote:

>
> April 1995
> Portstewart Lighthouse LOL 579. Hall broken into and vandalised; banner
> stolen; attempted arson.

*you* are blaming this on catholics? What do the police say? How would
you compare this with say murdering catholic taxi drivers? Are you
saying catholics are not bothered by similar trifles? How about a police
report into this?

Greig

[snat...@ulster.nildram.co.uk]

Paul Beattie <minih...@hotmail.com> wrote:

> June 1995
> Portstewart Lighthouse LOL 579. Hall door and door-frame destroyed as
> result of ramming with a telegraph pole.

Did *you* see catholics do this? What did the police say? Is all
vandalism caused by catholics in your opinion? Given that catholics are
the only people who have been murdered for their faith in years are you
sure this strictly qualifies as ethnic cleansing?

I mean compared to burning streets and large scale anti-catholic killing
and the sado-recreational killing that confronted catholics don't you
think you are gilding the lily a bit here?

Greig

--

[mlin...@bigfoot.com]

In article <01bd8377$437db2a0$372b63c3@bill>,

"Paul Beattie" <minih...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> Border victims and incidents of intimidation in that area to be posted to
> the board next week.
>
> April 1995
> Portstewart Lighthouse LOL 579. Hall broken into and vandalised; banner
> stolen; attempted arson.
> June 1995
> Portstewart Lighthouse LOL 579. Hall door and door-frame destroyed as
> result of ramming with a telegraph pole.
> 1991 - 1996
> Portstewart Lighthouse LOL 579. Numerous incidents: flags stolen and
> windows broken; outer walls marked with graffiti and results of paint
> bombs. Attacks so severe that the windows have had to be hoarded up, and
> the hall has the appearance of a derelict building.
> May 1996

LINFIELD 2 GLENTORAN 3
WOLVES 5 ARSENAL 2
PRODS -100 TAIGS -100
RICH 99 POOR 0

HEY BUDDY! HELLO!
IT'S OVER. THEY ALL WENT HOME
PARTY'S OVER.
TIME TO GET A LIFE AND CHECK OUT YOUR NEW COUNTRY.
SEE IF YOU CAN BE PART OF IT. OTHERWISE IT'S GONNA BE LONELY SHOUTING IN THE
DARK
HAVE A NICE DAY

Jeez, he's still raving on.
Hey buddy, it's 1998!
Get a life.

> Sept 96 Christ Church, Londonderry. Church of Ireland church gutted in an
> arson attack. Pro-IRA slogans daubed on outside walls.
>
> --
> "The dream of the child....
> .........becomes the hope of the man"
>

What the fuck does that mean?
Reading too many Hallmark Cards. Get a job or something.
CONTRIBUTE!

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[Paul Beattie]

I apologise for having got dragged into a figure swapping thing with A.N.
Other.

I assure you on the basis of A.N.Other's last post to me, it will not
happen again. Unfortunately, on this occasion, I feel into the trap of
writing a post that was spurred by the quality of those around it.

BTW I already have a job.

[Paul Beattie]

mlin...@my-dejanews.com wrote in article
<6k06sj$j37$1...@nnrp1.dejanews.com>...
> In article <01bd8404$526aaba0$a53563c3@bill>,

> "Paul Beattie" <minih...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > I apologise for having got dragged into a figure swapping thing with
A.N.
> > Other.

I can't be any more repentant than that.

PS Make sure you say one to Saint Jude - Patron Saint of Lost Souls and
Causes!

[Paul Beattie]

> You are seriously and without any sense of shame whatsoever posting in
> respect to the Drumcree debacle leaving out the majority of *real*
> Drumcree victims who didn't merely have flags pinched but who were burnt
> out of their houses in droves and even had their refugee hostels
> attacked by protestant supremacists not to mention those who died or
> were injured in sectarian attacks and you wonder why I think you are
> showing signs of being bigot?

Yes.

> What the hell has this to do with ethnic cleansing?

Nothing. But how quickly would you be on this board tomorrow morning if a
Catholic flag was taken down? Answer truthfully.

Is it your position
> that catholics are responsible for Drumcree?

No.

No wonder the North is a sectarian blister on the top of this Island with
people with disturbed
> value systems like yourself. It is a fine kettle of fish that people can
> post in largely unsubstantiated orange propaganda and expect the real
> world to take it as anything other than anti-catholic drivel.

In your esteemed opinion.

>
> Answer me this what does stealing a flag have to do with ethnic
> cleansing?

Nothing.

Why didn't you also post the majority of the *other* victims
> in the ones who were being shot at and beaten and burnt out of their
> houses in much larger numbers than anything protestants would like to
> see done to them.

Because that's what you're here for. Like I said MANY times before.
Today, as opposed to the past, is not a time for denials. And I never
have. But neither is it a time for apologies. Because if you think you'll
get one, think again. And I've said that before too.

Now. I'll say it again.

I'm asking you to refrain from calling me a bigot and implying through the
sentence "Orange Propaganda Merchant", that I am in some way either
*connected to*, or a *member of* the Orange Order.

I have no problem with the mud-slinging levels you have stooped to in
recent posts. Nor do I have a problem with the petulant name-calling that
you have resorted to, either.

If *you* have some *proof*, either socially or through my work, with Ards
District Partnership for Peace and Reconciliation, Craigavon District
Partnership for Peace and Reconciliation, Co-operation North, Craigavon
Economic Development Unit, Agivey Rural Network, or any of the community
consultation or voluntary work that's been completed, that I have been a
member of or connected to, the Orange Order, then I suggest that *you post
it.*

If *you* have any evidence that I have directly referred to *you* in a
sectarian manner, or inferred that you are a member of a sectarian
organisation, then I also suggest that you post it. I don't care whether
you are or you aren't, but I wasn't willing to publically make that
assumption.

If you have any evidence that *I* have directly called for any sectarian
action to be carried out on Catholics or Nationalists, or that I am an
advocate of *retaining the RUC*, or that I wish to see the Agreement fail
for
*religion-based reasons*, then I suggest *you post it*.

If you have any evidence that I have posted reasons other than economic and
social ones that I wish for partition to remain, i.e. where I have directly
made *statements of an nature that is anti-Republic-of -Ireland*, then I
suggest *you post them*.

Like I said, people have asked that others refrain from calling you a
terrorist. I suggest you extend me the same courtesy.

Its quite simple Greig. If anyone else made an historicism, you would ask
for proof. So now I'm asking you. Only fair, Greig, only fair.