For more information see our website http://donorhunt.blogspot.com/
I just read your posting and the story of your search thus far...I'd
be interested in a candid discussion on the matter if you're
interested? ~T
In my opinion, that's just wrong. I don't think people think about the
effect that will have on the child. I think that should be illegal.
I think there are a lot of varying opinions on the matter. I also
think that there isn't any evidence that this type of environment is
better or worse for raising a child. Seriously a lot of messed up
children are in the world and I doubt a high percentage of them come
from the type of environment these women are talking about.
Until you have hard facts and evidence stating the child will be worse
off for having two mommies or two daddies or whatever the case may be
keep your close minded opinion to your self or remain neutral like me.
I'm on the fence on this one until I see something to make be jump to
one side or the other.
All I can say is these women know what they want and they appear to be
going about it in a responsible way, right or wrong I wish them the
best of luck.
danj
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I still stick to my opinion on this one, I have a child myself, in my
opinion I don't think it's normal, all these new-age people who
disagree with me. I feel if you want to be homosexual, that's part of
the deal, you don't get to make kids. I don't care what anyone else
thinks, what you want to do behind closed doors is fine, but I don't
think a child with two parents of the same sex is right, God made
rules and that's one of them
I think narrow minded people are what makes this world so hard to live
in . I say live and let live. Judge not or let you be judged. Isn't
that in the bible somewhere? My mom always said if you have nothing
nice to say then say nothing at all.
To the two ladies looking, keep looking, only you know what is right
for you and as long as the child has two parents that love and respect
them that is all that really matters. I would be more concerned about
the child that has two parents that could care less about them, abuse
them or neglect them. Those are the things that are not right.
There you go again, the existence of God is also a debatable subject.
Where exactly is this rule that your God made? I'd like to see
reference to a rule that says a homosexual couple isn't allowed to
raise a child. If there actually is a God I'd doubt it would be
concerned with such trivial things. In fact I doubt you should be
either, the world is messed up and this should be much closer to the
bottom of the list of world concerns then to the top. If this is a top
concern of yours you should get your priorities checked, I'd like war
and famine would far outweigh this, hell most would consider the price
of fuel a more relevant concern I would think.
anyway this will be my last post about this, I said "IN MY OPINION"
I'm allowed to have my own opinion I don't care what anyone else
thinks (and I'm sure the lesbian couple doesn't care what I think).
This is a public news group, and if you post something that
controversial here, you can certainly expect some difference of
opinions. But this subject, I couldn't help but post my opinion. It is
in the bible about this, check it yourself if you want,and I don't
really care if you believe in God, Mr. Science
Wouldn't you think that a gay female couple would perhaps encourage
lesbianism? As you know, the father plays an important role in the raising
of kids, so what role would Dad play if a kid has two mom's? We all know the
stats on kids raise with single parents (that is without a father figure).
I'm not sure of that with two moms.
Oh BTW, I'll go on record of saying, I am against gay couple having or
raising kids. I'll also go on record of saying communicate with people who
are gay, and they know exactly my feelings like it or not.
> danj
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In my opinion far too many religious people do this, they seem to only
apply things from their faith that suite their current situation. I
have no problem with people of faith, I do have issues when the
completely ignore sections of their faith to better suite their lives.
Good look in your search, I hope every thing works out the way you
want it to!!
As for you other retards, believers of god or evolution, those who
look negatively upon this, are just that, retarded, or, held back.
Open mindedness is key to the survival of society. Gone are the days
of this close minded bullshit. And as stated earlier, if you have
nothing nice to say, get the fuck off the internet!!!
Now that is particularly unchristian, is it not? Evangelism is part of the
club rules if you want to be a real Christian.
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I will respond to you comment on your blog.
You said,
Besides of which, I don't think it's possible to nurture sexuality - if that
was the case then how do you explain the many parents who aimed to bring up
straight children and found that their offspring preferred same sex
partners?
My response is this,
I believe that heterosexual couples aim to raise heterosexual kids (just
like you has a lesbian couple would perhaps aim to raise homosexual kids),
but that sometimes changes not because they are born to be gay, but rather
due to social behavior and other social issues. The gay people that I know
are men who dress like freakin women, and the women who who are gay, date
women who dress like freakin men? I believe that these people growing up had
difficulty mingling with the so called "normal" people, and perhaps may have
been rejected by the many of their classmates, hence leading them to mingle
with the huge minority, that be the gay population where they would most
like receive some friendship and perhaps love. I truly believe that, if many
of those women were fortunate enough to get in a relationship with a man,
the possibility of becoming gay would be remote.
Why is it that in a lesbian relationship there is oftentime one who hides
their gender behind bagy clothes, very short hair, combined with a rough and
tough character?
The same goes for a gay male couple. I don't think any man would prefer to
cuddle into a hairy ape over a soft attractive breasted hairless woman. What
I think is as I stated above, and that is the consequence of rejection and
not fitting in resulting on a him trying a gay relationship to attain love
and affection, not because he prefer the dangling wiener.
One other thing I don't condone, and that is when a I'm having a sensible
conversation with a gay man, then out of nowhere, he responds as he spots a
man walking past, " what a ass on him."
If you want to be gay, that is fine, but I don't think you should be given
the privilege of having children. This has nothing to do with the gay
community whatsoever, because many of them are intelligent and very sensible
people just like the heterosexual community. Again, my one and only point is
simply to explain why I believe men/women choose that type of sexuality, and
that I they should not be given the privilege of raising kids.
"God made rules and that's one of them"
Please give me a quote where god says children can't be raised by same sex
couples! The thing i remember most from my catholic school upbringing is
that God loves all of his children equally.
"I have a child myself."
With your solid opinion on this, if your child were gay, would you dis-own
them? I teach my children that whatever decisions they make, I will love
them, infinitely & unconditionally... Not if you're straight you can be my
son.
I think Alicia and Sarah would be the kind of paretns every family needs,
it's not the sex of a parent that matters, it's the love and support they
can provide... Good luck to you both
<brunsw...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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That is a crock of shit........everyone chooses if they want to be
homosexual.
For chris sake, you don't think people are born to be gay do ya?
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"Clint & Tammy" <clin...@nf.sympatico.ca> wrote in message news:46a37229$0$8872$9a56...@news.aliant.net...
your sexuality isn't chosen, if it were there would be no homosexuality to debate about, if it's a social thing, there never would have been a first gay or lesbian couple to ( i say this very lightly) "spark the trend"
Oh I get it now. If a man or woman is gay, they have the gay gene, if they are heterosexual they have the straight gene, if they like both man and woman they have the bisexual gene, if they like animals they have the beasiality gene, if they like everything that has a heartbeat then I guess they have the trisexual gene. Now that makes sense.
and people dress as they like to dress, gay or straight, as a woman am i suppose to not wear comfortable, baggy clothing because it may make me look like a man...
Dress as you wish my dear. Personally I find it a little wierd to see a woman dress with baggy jeans down across her arse, with big baggy shirt, old mans wallet hanging from her ass pocket with chains dangling, and topped off with a designer brush cut hair do with baseball cap. Cool lady I must say so!
Homosexuality is not social or chosen it is whom you are, as much as some behaviours are gained as social skills, your sexuality is not. it is part of who you are, and believe it or not,
Pack of nonsense and I'm beating a dead horse.Last post for me.
"Devils Advocate" <devilsad...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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So very ignorant. Won't bother copy-pasting my response here, you can
read it on my blog:
http://donorhunt.blogspot.com/2007/07/homosexuals-want-to-raise-homosexual.html
Sorry but I voice my opinion on belief, not on popular opinion.
Nothing in my post was selfish.
--
Your ability to stereotype is amazing. I also doubt if you were
talking to a straigh male who said "what an ass on HER" you'd be upset
at all. Personal preference is just that, if you don't like it don't
associate yourself with it, that is your choice. I have been in
situations where a gay male was talking about a sexual relationship
very graphically and I was put off by that and didn't like it, but I
would have been equally put off by a straight male talking about a
sexual relationship very graphically too, so there you have it.
Your full of shit. Nothing in my post was stereotypical.
I also doubt if you were
> talking to a straigh male who said "what an ass on HER" you'd be upset
> at all.
I'll be honest, I find it more inappropriate for a man to say what a ass on
another man, then a man saying what a set of can's on that woman.
Personal preference is just that, if you don't like it don't
> associate yourself with it, that is your choice.
Well I won't associate myself with gay activities that's for sure, but I
will NOT hold that against anyone if they choose to be gay. That is their
choice, and I think no less of them.
I have been in
> situations where a gay male was talking about a sexual relationship
> very graphically and I was put off by that and didn't like it,
Well, that is what I don't like. Like come on, if your not gay, do you
really want to hear about what happen with those two men in bed last night.
Yuck!
but I
> would have been equally put off by a straight male talking about a
> sexual relationship very graphically too, so there you have it.
Well I too don't find it appropriate to discuss a graphic sexual
relationship no matter what the sex.........mind you I did it when I was
young and wild. But eh, nothing wrong with commenting on the sexy lady
crossing your path while chatting a storm with your friend.
Want? You don't get up one morning and say...hmmmm...I think I rather
like to lick canoe from now on. :-?
--
Cheers
Todd
www.flickr.com/photos/todd_baker
msas1...@inbox.com wrote:
> We, Sarah and I, are a young lesbian couple who've been together for
> seven years and we're hoping to start a family soon. We feel that
> sperm banks are too impersonal for us and would rather find a donor
> that we can get to know and vet for ourselves.
>
> For more information see our website http://donorhunt.blogspot.com/
<croc...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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just an example
As you stated when you were five you thought girls were gross, and now you
don't feel the same. Something inside you more powerful then choice and
logical thought instilled in you felt drawn toward the opposite sex.
Knowing this you still think homosexuals/bisexual wake up one day and say
hell I know all the suffering it may cause me but sure I think I want be
gay/bi. They feel the same as you do but toward the same sex. Same feeling
different sex, nothing more!
"Too many people are stuck on this " I have a right..." bullshit" So
because they want to raise a child in a different upbringing then you, they
should not have the right? If this was the case then it is just as well we
all have to sign up for licenses to breed and so forth.... but the way you
write this may be right up your alley, all blonde haired and blued eyed, fit
right in with your idealistic fantasy world. "People letting others run
away with these crazy ideas about "human rights" are just making this world
worse." Maybe you're right maybe we should have someone as wise and all
knowing as you to spank our asses when we mention things you don't agree
with. Or maybe it's your crazy idea about spanking asses of the same sex
that has you screaming so scared I don't know.
Last time I checked there are a lot of people that make up this little place
the rest of us live on call planet earth and not all of us think the same.
That being said not one part of me thinks you're actually going to read this
and gain one ounce of wisdom but at least give the rest of us a little the
time and space to live without the likes of you trying to change things so
you can find it a little easier to sleep at night putting your insecurities
at ease.
Your ignorance disgusts me
Clint
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"Why don't you all think about the kid who has to go to grade 7 and tell all
his friends that he has 2 moms instead of a mom and dad."
-not everyone has a mom and dad, every family is different, some have only
one mom, or only one dad, or are raised by grandparents. My first son's life
started while i lived with my mother, is this unacceptable since he was
being raised by 2 women? How about considering the kid in grade seven who
has to tell their best friend of 10+ years he can't be his friend anymore
because their gay
"Leviticus 20:13"
- if you obey leviticus so closely i guess you also:
Don't eat fat of ox, sheep or goats (Lev. 7.23)
Don't eat blood of fish, fowl or beast (Lev. 7:26)
Don't eat rabbit (Lev. 11:6)
Don't eat ham, bacon, pork chops or ribs (Lev. 11:7)
Don't eat lobster, crab, scallops or shrimp (Lev. 11:10)
Don't have contact with a woman while she is in her period of menstrual
uncleanliness (Lev.15: 19-24)
Don't wear clothing of two kinds of material (Lev. 19:19)
Don't shave the hair from your temples or beard(lev. 19:28)
"Too many people are stuck on this " I have a right..." bullshit"
- i was raised believing people have rights, was i give the wrong
impression?
"People letting others run away with these crazy ideas about "human rights"
are just making this world worse."
-people spouting nothing more pure ingnorance against others is what makes
this world worse...and these ingnorant imbeciles are permitted to reproduce
another generation of morons.
You Disgust Me
Tammy
<croc...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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no I think youre wrong, too bad, you'll never change my opinion
http://donorhunt.blogspot.com/2007/07/can-you-choose-your-sexuality.html
Alicia
I've seen and heard of a lot of terrible parents who do terrible
things to their kids, at least in this situation the child will be
loved and cared for and taught that there are lots of different
families and people and they all do things uniquely.
KR
What I'd like to know is why Carter, Davehx, or CD have no jumped over you
for posting this in the wrong newsgroup?????
"Devils Advocate" <devilsad...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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Being gay is ok - but don't shove it down anyone's throat and don't expect
privileges which come from natural selection. Learn to deal with your
condition like many people learn to deal with other types of conditions (
including medical conditions - which being gay probably is - one day they'll
find the marker for it ). We will all respect you for that. You don't see
me in this newsgroup looking for female genetic material for my own use.
Good luck with it.
<msas...@inbox.com> wrote in message
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I'm sure you get your female genetic material straight from the source...by
paying for it.
If you were my son, I'd be sooo proud of you for your hatred (or your
intolerance, at least)
"nil" <n...@nil.com> wrote in message
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-Kids can be cruel, thats the way it is, if it's not for the family the grow
up in it will be for the clothes they wear, or the way they speak, or the
way the look....The best thing a child can have is a family that will help
them through these tough times. These are the things that help us grow into
wonderful adults. In this world, right now, a child is LESS likey to be
teased for having same sex parents than many other things. It seems now that
the children are trying to teach us a lesson about accepting others for whom
they are. With the exception of a few, likely the few whom have been
conceived by "privileges which come from natural selection" and have had a
life of the opinions of their "normal families" "shoved down their throats..
I think with this generation, a generation of children who have decided to
live for themselves, not what the world expects of them, the concerns any
child of a same sex parents would have are those of any other child growing
up,a nd the best thing for them is a caring family, not one that will make
them feel what they do is wrong
And with all due respect, with that attitude,good luck finding any female
genetic material for your own use, might as well get to work on that asexual
thing you are so for
Tammy
"nil" <n...@nil.com> wrote in message
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You know what ? Maybe adoption would be better ? It helps a child already
in need and it does alleviate part of the emotional stigma the child will
face.
Anyways, this thread doesn't belong here. I would guess the general idea of
this forum is for buying and selling stuff, not stirring up controversial
topics or selling human material ( illegal ). If it's a donation they are
looking for, there is always free.nf.wanted. And there is a much more
tactful way of doing it. Maybe this whole thread was a prank anyways and we
all took the bait. Keep your mind open.
"Jim" <oobaka***NOSPAM@NOSPAM***nf.sympatico.ca> wrote in message
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"Clint & Tammy" <clin...@nf.sympatico.ca> wrote in message
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Let's say they do discover a "marker" for homosexuality and learn how to
"fix" it
Now let's say they find markers for every other "condition"
What a perfect world it will be when everyone is the same.
"nil" <n...@nil.com> wrote in message
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KR
http://donorhunt.blogspot.com/
It's the very people who criticise us for wanting children who could
potentially make their lives a misery, not us, the open-minded,
thoughtful and loving parents.
And Nil, we are not trying to buy human material. I assumed from the
group title that this was a forum for things wanted, not necessarily
things you were willing to pay for.
Alicia
"Jim" <oobaka***NOSPAM@NOSPAM***nf.sympatico.ca> wrote in message
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I took note that you didn't disagree that there wouldn't be a stigma
attached.
"davehx" <pleasedonots...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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As for whether or not we're ready to have children - you should not
making damning remarks like that about people without backing them up.
And why is it that you're alone in trying to remove this thread when
others appear to be enjoying the debate?
You strike me as a bully who's using his/her racial ties to claim a
general tolerance that you no not possess.
Alicia
I will admit I have used racial slurs in the distant past until I was mature
enough to realize the hurt they can cause.
Being gay is as much of a condition as being West Indian, Caucasian or
Chinese.
These two women want to bring life into the world and all you can do is tell
them it's a bad idea because the child will be teased.
I'm a "normal" white male and I was teased because I was a fat kid with
glasses.
Should my parents not have had me because of that?
Many children get teased because they have mixed race parents.
Should you and your spouse not have children?
Hell...any child can get teased...whether it be they like the "wrong" type
of music,
wear the "wrong" brand of clothing or are just considered poor.
Should only racially pure, wealthy, physically perfect heterosexual people
have children?
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"Jim" <oobaka***NOSPAM@NOSPAM***nf.sympatico.ca> wrote in message
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Fricking fundamentalist moron! (That's not a judgement by the way -
just an observation.)
brunsw...@hotmail.com wrote:
> On Jul 21, 10:50 pm, "Dan" <toodlie_...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>> I have to agree davehx ... although it may not be for the same reason! And I
>> realize this is not the place/medium to discuss this to much further I will
>> venture to state my long time belief. I've always said that this world would
>> be a better place if all or at least the majority of our leaders were women.
>> And as far as two women raising a child, be it male or female, they would be
>> quite capable of giving them all the positive life lessons. And because I'm
>> so supportive of this position and plan, I would be more than willing to
>> suffer the consequences of being either the sperm donor or a practise dummy.
>> I await your earliest response ;o))
>>
>> danj
>>
>> "davehx" <pleasedonotspamsplooc...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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>> news:46a2a029$0$8867$9a56...@news.aliant.net...
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>> i think you're wrong
>>>
>>> brunswick...@hotmail.com wrote:
>>>
>>>> In my opinion, that's just wrong. I don't think people think about the
>>>> effect that will have on the child. I think that should be illegal.- Hide quoted text -
>>>>
>> - Show quoted text -
>>
>
Swimming upstream is difficult huh ?
Good luck.
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"nil" <n...@nil.com> wrote in message
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Well, I have no children of my own owing to ill fate in my
relationships. I am 51 now and my oppertunities for impregnating are
somewhat limited. Certainly not with my wife who is well past that
time in her life.
I would like to have passed my attributes on into the future and seems
your request may be one way to do that.
I teach a technological program in a technological college, am in good
health and fit, I have good features and my family (siblings) are also
all successfull. Guess I'm saying my gene pool is good.
I could deliver in a vial or some other method.
It's perhaps to late in this offer but such is life I guess. email me
if you wish more <astro at nl dot rogers dot com>.
Robert, thanks for your message. We'll try and get back to you soon.
Sincerely
Helen Hillier
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