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Mark Otway

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Oct 10, 2009, 6:50:51 AM10/10/09
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Coould NR not begin a sync when the phone reboots? When I reboot it's usually to stop the phone running slowly, so starting a sync just kills it unless I remember to start the app and cancel the job.

I know you were thinking of changing it so the timer is reset by a manual or locale sync too, that would really help.

Good post re CM this morning, BTW.

Mariano Kamp

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Oct 10, 2009, 2:59:20 PM10/10/09
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Hey Mark,

  you're still using 1.5? Could you wait and see if the need to reboot your phone is still there in 1.6?

  I use the boot event to establish the sync schedule, because Android doesn't persist "alarms". I currently leave the phone another minute to get up and running, before the first sync kicks in, and there is some room here, but I don't want the first sync to be started just 20 minutes after the boot.
 
  The possible changes to the scheduling that I described in the other mail would also not help as there I wouldn't persist the alarms, which I otherwise would need to implement.

  Let's see what 1.6 brings you? I don't need to reboot anymore.
Btw. did you try to toggle GPS? That worked for me with 1.5.

  Regarding CM, there is a comment from Bungabo, that he will care for those bugs and that there is a bug tracking system (bts) in place. Funny thing is that I read about BTS often. I just didn't know what the acronym stands for and assumed it was a scheduler for Linux ;-)

Mark Otway

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Oct 10, 2009, 3:11:03 PM10/10/09
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If 1.6 stops the phone from ever slowing Dow then that'll be great, but I'll be surprised. I know they've adjusted the background sync priority, but I've not heard of anything that'll significantly reduce performance degradation long-term. I'll be happy to be proven wrong though.

It makes sense to init the sync schedule on reboot, but why not just set the timer rather than actually do a sync? :-)

On Oct 10, 2009 7:59 PM, "Mariano Kamp" <marian...@gmail.com> wrote:

Hey Mark,

  you're still using 1.5? Could you wait and see if the need to reboot your phone is still there in 1.6?

  I use the boot event to establish the sync schedule, because Android doesn't persist "alarms". I currently leave the phone another minute to get up and running, before the first sync kicks in, and there is some room here, but I don't want the first sync to be started just 20 minutes after the boot.
 
  The possible changes to the scheduling that I described in the other mail would also not help as there I wouldn't persist the alarms, which I otherwise would need to implement.

  Let's see what 1.6 brings you? I don't need to reboot anymore.
Btw. did you try to toggle GPS? That worked for me with 1.5.

  Regarding CM, there is a comment from Bungabo, that he will care for those bugs and that there is a bug tracking system (bts) in place. Funny thing is that I read about BTS often. I just didn't know what the acronym stands for and assumed it was a scheduler for Linux ;-)

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Mariano Kamp

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Oct 10, 2009, 4:21:40 PM10/10/09
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If 1.6 stops the phone from ever slowing Dow then that'll be great, but I'll be surprised. I know they've adjusted the background sync priority, but I've not heard of anything that'll significantly reduce performance degradation long-term. I'll be happy to be proven wrong though.

1.5 has a serious performance bug. Anyway, you may wanna use a task killer otherwise.
Well, lets see what happens. 

It makes sense to init the sync schedule on reboot, but why not just set the timer rather than actually do a sync? :-)

That's what I do. To one minute after I receive the boot message.

Mark Otway

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Oct 10, 2009, 4:36:10 PM10/10/09
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I use a task killer, but the browser and other things can't be killed. Like you say, we'll see.

If you only start the timer, how come NR started to sync 2 mins after I rebooted? I have auto-sync set to run every 24 hours... :-)

On Oct 10, 2009 9:21 PM, "Mariano Kamp" <marian...@gmail.com> wrote:

> If 1.6 stops the phone from ever slowing Dow then that'll be great, but I'll be surprised. I know ...

1.5 has a serious performance bug. Anyway, you may wanna use a task killer otherwise.
Well, lets see what happens. 

> > It makes sense to init the sync schedule on reboot, but why not just set the timer rather than ...

That's what I do. To one minute after I receive the boot message.

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Mariano Kamp

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Oct 10, 2009, 4:38:09 PM10/10/09
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Because Android OS does not persist the alarms.

Written on a mobile device

On Oct 10, 2009 9:21 PM, "Mariano Kamp" <marian...@gmail.com> wrote:

> If 1.6 stops the phone from ever slowing Dow then that'll be great, but I'll be surprised. I know ...

> > 1.5 has a serious performance bug. Anyway, you may wanna use a task killer otherwise. > Well, l...

> > It makes sense to init the sync schedule on reboot, but why not just set the timer rather than ...

> > That's what I do. To one minute after I receive the boot message. >

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Mark Otway

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Oct 10, 2009, 4:44:48 PM10/10/09
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Sure, I know that. What I mean is that if i have 30 mins set up as the sync time, surely after a reboot at 5pm, when you initialize you'd set the next sync time for 5:30pm? Likewise, with my 24-hour setting, if I rebooted right now I'd expect your startup routine to schedule the first sync for 21:45 tomorrow night. See what I mean?

On Oct 10, 2009 9:38 PM, "Mariano Kamp" <marian...@gmail.com> wrote:

Because Android OS does not persist the alarms.

Written on a mobile device

> > On Oct 10, 2009 9:21 PM, "Mariano Kamp" <marian...@gmail.com> wrote: >

> > If 1.6 stops the phone from ever slowing Dow then that'll be great, but I'll be surprised. I kno...

> > 1.5 has a serious performance bug. Anyway, you may wanna use a task killer otherwise. > Well, l...

> > > > It makes sense to init the sync schedule on reboot, but why not just set the timer rather t...

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Mariano Kamp

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Oct 11, 2009, 2:45:26 AM10/11/09
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When you turned of your phone it would then take 24 hours until the next sync. I can see why this appeals to you ;-), but the users how want auto-sync surely wouldn't see it that way.

Let's postpone this discussion until 1.6, ok?
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