SLRN -Display Read Messages
Skippyboy
newsreaders I have used were GUI based. (knode, thunderbird, pan)
I have a question about how slrn works. I have a free shell account that I ssh into
and use slrn. I don't have root priveledges, and cannot run/install new apps/scripts.
My question: The GUI based newsreaders always displayed all messages, whether they
were read/unread. How can I get slrn to always display all messages? Right now
it seems to only display new messages, and it is hard to keep up with threads.
Does slrn cache the messages somewhere, or must it download them every time?
(I checked and leafnode is not installed on the shell machine, so I pretty
much can only use slrn.)
Thanks for any help for a newbie..
Skippyboy
Ok - I feel silly answering my own question - but I just RTFM and saw the section on Re-Reading articles.
ESC 1 ENTER
Now I need to fix my line length... I saw that in a previous post.
andrew
Good to see you being your own technical support :-) You will find
that you will become accustomed to reading your news with only unread
messages in front of you and as you have found already there is a way
around this anyway.
You can also use Esc p to select the parent of the article you are
reading or Esc 1 Esc p to reconstruct an entire thread.
In the sample slrn.rc file you should see some suggested syntax for
some editors that should fix the line length, or of course you can
'roll your own'.
All the best,
Andrew
Tom Newton
Skippyboy <Skip...@nospam.com> wrote:
> Hi all - I just started using SLRN and think it is a really
> cool program. The only other newsreaders I have used were GUI
> based. (knode, thunderbird, pan)
>
> I have a question about how slrn works. I have a free shell
> account that I ssh into and use slrn. I don't have root
> priveledges, and cannot run/install new apps/scripts.
You many be able install some apps in your $HOME directory. Check with
the admins there.
>
> My question: The GUI based newsreaders always displayed all
> messages, whether they were read/unread. How can I get slrn to
> always display all messages? Right now it seems to only display
> new messages, and it is hard to keep up with threads.
>
> Does slrn cache the messages somewhere, or must it download
> them every time?
>
> (I checked and leafnode is not installed on the shell machine,
> so I pretty much can only use slrn.)
Did you check if they have slrnpull? That usually comes with
slrn. I'm sure that you wouldn't be able to keep a large
newsspool (the articles would have to be expired after a
relatively short time), but any would be a great help.
> Thanks for any help for a newbie..
I see from the other posts that you are otherwise in good shape
here.
If I were you, I'd run slrn + leafnode at home and
use the shell account for something else....
Watch your step with Motzarella. The guy who runs it is a jerk
and loves to power trip and cut people off.
If anyone complains about you about anything you are probably
history.
Tom
--
The Truth will set you free:
http://www.sethcenter.com
Dan C
> Watch your step with Motzarella. The guy who runs it is a jerk
> and loves to power trip and cut people off.
LOL! Yeah, that's one of the NSP's that shitcanned "Tom Newton" (who is
really "Alan Connor", the biggest asswipe ever seen on Usenet. There have
been plenty of other accounts cancelled on him, as well.
> If anyone complains about you about anything you are probably history.
That's what happened with you, eh?
> Tom
Your "name" is Alan Connor, dumbass.
--
"Tom N" ("Tom Newton") - the latest nymshift of "Alan Connor".
Read more about the netkook Alan Connor here:
http://www.pearlgates.net/nanae/kooks/ac/fga.shtml
Email him: calh...@gmail.com or simple...@gmail.com
Gerry Ford
"Dan C" <youmust...@lan.invalid> wrote in message
news:pan.2008.04.24....@moria.lan...
> --
> "Tom N" ("Tom Newton") - the latest nymshift of "Alan Connor".
> Read more about the netkook Alan Connor here:
> http://www.pearlgates.net/nanae/kooks/ac/fga.shtml
> Email him: calh...@gmail.com or simple...@gmail.com
Dan,
I've never seen anything like this. I usually hang out in technical forums
that are far less net-savvy. What is nanae?
I usually disagree with calling a person a troll, as this denies humanity to
someone you've barely met. There's unbelievable documentation on these
so-called kooks.
What does this statement mean: This yields a Breidbart Index of 34.319.
--
"Life in Lubbock, Texas, taught me two things: One is that God loves you
and you're going to burn in hell. The other is that sex is the most
awful, filthy thing on earth and you should save it for someone you love."
~~ Butch Hancock
Blinky the Shark
>
> "Dan C" <youmust...@lan.invalid> wrote in message
> news:pan.2008.04.24....@moria.lan...
>
>> --
>> "Tom N" ("Tom Newton") - the latest nymshift of "Alan Connor". Read more
>> about the netkook Alan Connor here:
>> http://www.pearlgates.net/nanae/kooks/ac/fga.shtml Email him:
>> calh...@gmail.com or simple...@gmail.com
>
> Dan,
>
> I've never seen anything like this. I usually hang out in technical
> forums that are far less net-savvy. What is nanae?
>
> I usually disagree with calling a person a troll, as this denies humanity
> to someone you've barely met. There's unbelievable documentation on these
> so-called kooks.
>
> What does this statement mean: This yields a Breidbart Index of 34.319.
http://www.pacifier.com/~stopspam/usenet/mmf/breidbart.html
--
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Killing all posts from Google Groups
The Usenet Improvement Project: http://improve-usenet.org
Blinky: http://blinkynet.net
Dan C
>> "Tom N" ("Tom Newton") - the latest nymshift of "Alan Connor".
>> Read more about the netkook Alan Connor here:
>> http://www.pearlgates.net/nanae/kooks/ac/fga.shtml
> I've never seen anything like this. I usually hang out in technical forums
> that are far less net-savvy. What is nanae?
I guess you've never heard of Google? <sigh>
nanae = news.admin.net-abuse.email . It's another Usenet newsgroup.
> I usually disagree with calling a person a troll, as this denies humanity to
> someone you've barely met. There's unbelievable documentation on these
> so-called kooks.
Sometimes it's obvious that someone's a troll. Others are better at
hiding it. I happen to be an expert on spotting them.
> What does this statement mean: This yields a Breidbart Index of 34.319.
See above re: Google.
--
"Ubuntu" -- an African word, meaning "Slackware is too hard for me".
Allodoxaphobia
> Gerry Ford wrote:
>>
>>> "Tom N" ("Tom Newton") - the latest nymshift of "Alan Connor". Read more
>>> about the netkook Alan Connor here:
>>> http://www.pearlgates.net/nanae/kooks/ac/fga.shtml Email him:
>>> calh...@gmail.com or simple...@gmail.com
>>
>> forums that are far less net-savvy. What is nanae?
>>
>> I usually disagree with calling a person a troll, as this denies humanity
>> to someone you've barely met. There's unbelievable documentation on these
>> so-called kooks.
>>
>> What does this statement mean: This yields a Breidbart Index of 34.319.
>
> http://www.pacifier.com/~stopspam/usenet/mmf/breidbart.html
A lot of link rot there, but the content is good.
Jonesy
--
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38.24N 104.55W | @ config.com | Jonesy | OS/2
*** Killfiling google posts: <http://jonz.net/ng.htm>
Frank Slootweg
>
> "Dan C" <youmust...@lan.invalid> wrote in message
> news:pan.2008.04.24....@moria.lan...
>
> > --
> > "Tom N" ("Tom Newton") - the latest nymshift of "Alan Connor".
> > Read more about the netkook Alan Connor here:
> > http://www.pearlgates.net/nanae/kooks/ac/fga.shtml
> > Email him: calh...@gmail.com or simple...@gmail.com
>
> Dan,
>
> I've never seen anything like this. I usually hang out in technical forums
> that are far less net-savvy. What is nanae?
Why not click on "Home" on the above mentioned page? Or do a Google
"I'm Feeling Lucky" search? Works nearly always and also in this case.
[...]
> What does this statement mean: This yields a Breidbart Index of 34.319.
Blinky already answered that, but again an "I'm Feeling Lucky" search
would have given you the answer.
Tip: You can also use "define: <term>" in Google's Search box, i.e.
in this case "define: nanae" and "define: Breidbart Index" (without
quotes).
SINNER
> Dan C wrote:
>> > I usually disagree with calling a person a troll, as this denies
>> > humanity to someone you've barely met. There's unbelievable
>> > documentation on these so-called kooks.
>>
>> Sometimes it's obvious that someone's a troll. Others are better at
>> hiding it. I happen to be an expert on spotting them.
>
> takes one to know one!
>
>
>
>
Not really, just need to be observant ;)
Newsgroups: news.software.readers,**rec.sport.basketball.college**
**X-No-Archive: Yes**
Troll.
--
David
Frank Slootweg
I thought this part was rather appropriate:
> > Path: ...!sewer-output
Tom Newton
Newton <t...@server.invalid> wrote:
For instance, if you have a garbage thread or sub-thread that
you want to remove from your newsspool, like this one:
-> D 23:[Dan C ] `->
7 D 46:[Gerry Ford ] `->
8 D 31:[Blinky the S] +->
9 D 27:[Allodoxaphob] | `->
10 D 28:[Dan C ] +->
11! D 300 12:[Enron Hubbar] | `->
12 D 25:[SINNER ] | `->
13 D 29:[Frank Slootw] `->
It is very easy to do this with slrn+leafnode without reading
any of the posts.
<snip>
SINNER
LOL! Even I wasnt THAT observant.
--
David
Dan C
> For instance, if you have a garbage thread or sub-thread that
> you want to remove from your newsspool, like this one:
<snip>
> It is very easy to do this with slrn+leafnode without reading
> any of the posts.
You read every single post, Alan Connor. I'll bet you read mine twice,
trying to figure out a clever response.
For those who don't already know, "Tom Newton" is really "Alan Connor",
the well-known biggest dipshit ever to post on Usenet. More info on this
netkook below in my signature block.
Gerry Ford
"Blinky the Shark" <no....@box.invalid> wrote in message
news:pan.2008.04.24....@thurston.blinkynet.net...
> Gerry Ford wrote:
>
>>
>> "Dan C" <youmust...@lan.invalid> wrote in message
>> news:pan.2008.04.24....@moria.lan...
>>
>>> --
>>> "Tom N" ("Tom Newton") - the latest nymshift of "Alan Connor". Read more
>>> about the netkook Alan Connor here:
>>> http://www.pearlgates.net/nanae/kooks/ac/fga.shtml Email him:
>>> calh...@gmail.com or simple...@gmail.com
>>
>> Dan,
>>
>> I've never seen anything like this. I usually hang out in technical
>> forums that are far less net-savvy. What is nanae?
>>
>> I usually disagree with calling a person a troll, as this denies humanity
>> to someone you've barely met. There's unbelievable documentation on
>> these
>> so-called kooks.
>>
>> What does this statement mean: This yields a Breidbart Index of 34.319.
>
> http://www.pacifier.com/~stopspam/usenet/mmf/breidbart.html
>
that they are in Minnesota, didn't deserve to be laden with whatever the
spam phenomenon is, and that instead it should be called "american cheese,"
having the form but lacking the substance. They're a step ahead of me with
Velveeta.
Gerry Ford
"Frank Slootweg" <th...@ddress.is.invalid> wrote in message
news:48109ec5$0$70976$dbd4...@news.wanadoo.nl...
I've never had good luck combining google and usenet. Most of what I'm
looking for is limited to a syntax, e.g. Perl, C or Fortran, and these names
pop up in oodles in the search without having restricted the search. leaving
me with 500 results that don't do anything I want. :-(
Blinky the Shark
> On Thu, 24 Apr 2008 13:01:15 -0700, Tom Newton wrote:
>
>> For instance, if you have a garbage thread or sub-thread that you want
>> to remove from your newsspool, like this one:
>
> <snip>
>
>> It is very easy to do this with slrn+leafnode without reading any of the
>> posts.
>
> You read every single post, Alan Connor. I'll bet you read mine twice,
> trying to figure out a clever response.
>
> For those who don't already know, "Tom Newton" is really "Alan Connor",
> the well-known biggest dipshit ever to post on Usenet. More info on this
> netkook below in my signature block.
TONIGHT ON CELEBRITY DEATH MATCH
AC FACES RTS
MATCHUP OF THE CENTURY!
Check your local listings for time and channel.
--
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Killing all posts from Google Groups
The Usenet Improvement Project: http://improve-usenet.org
Blinky: http://blinkynet.net
Ted S.
> For those who don't already know, "Tom Newton" is really "Alan Connor",
> the well-known biggest dipshit ever to post on Usenet.
You don't remember Serdar Argic?
<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Serdar_Argic>
--
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fedya at bestweb dot net
Now blogging at http://justacineast.blogspot.com
Gerry Ford
"Ted S." <fe...@bestweb.spam> wrote in message
news:1jncxmph...@tedstennis.tripod.com...
> On Thu, 24 Apr 2008 15:11:29 -0500, Dan C wrote:
>
>> For those who don't already know, "Tom Newton" is really "Alan Connor",
>> the well-known biggest dipshit ever to post on Usenet.
>
> You don't remember Serdar Argic?
>
> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Serdar_Argic>
>
thing to do. The germans are all ahead of us on this usenet thing. It's
one of my pleasures in life to lurk in de.sci.mathematik .
Dan C
>> For those who don't already know, "Tom Newton" is really "Alan Connor",
>> the well-known biggest dipshit ever to post on Usenet.
> You don't remember Serdar Argic?
> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Serdar_Argic>
Nope, a little before my time on Usenet. Sounds like it was a bot, anyway.
--
"Ubuntu" -- an African word, meaning "Slackware is too hard for me".
Frank Slootweg
[...]
> Interesting. I've always thought that hormel, excellent corporate citizens
> that they are in Minnesota, didn't deserve to be laden with whatever the
> spam phenomenon is, and that instead it should be called "american cheese,"
> having the form but lacking the substance. They're a step ahead of me with
> Velveeta.
That's why the case distinction between *H*ormel's (bad keyboard?)
product "SPAM" and (email/Usenet) "spam" is so important.
Frank Slootweg
>
> "Frank Slootweg" <th...@ddress.is.invalid> wrote in message
> news:48109ec5$0$70976$dbd4...@news.wanadoo.nl...
> > Gerry Ford <ge...@nowhere.ford> wrote:
> >>
> >> "Dan C" <youmust...@lan.invalid> wrote in message
> >> news:pan.2008.04.24....@moria.lan...
> >>
> >> > --
> >> > "Tom N" ("Tom Newton") - the latest nymshift of "Alan Connor".
> >> > Read more about the netkook Alan Connor here:
> >> > http://www.pearlgates.net/nanae/kooks/ac/fga.shtml
> >> > Email him: calh...@gmail.com or simple...@gmail.com
> >>
> >> Dan,
> >>
> >> I've never seen anything like this. I usually hang out in technical
> >> forums that are far less net-savvy. What is nanae?
> >
> > Why not click on "Home" on the above mentioned page? Or do a Google
> > "I'm Feeling Lucky" search? Works nearly always and also in this case.
Non response noted.
> > [...]
> >
> >> What does this statement mean: This yields a Breidbart Index of 34.319.
> >
> > Blinky already answered that, but again an "I'm Feeling Lucky" search
> > would have given you the answer.
> >
> > Tip: You can also use "define: <term>" in Google's Search box, i.e.
> > in this case "define: nanae" and "define: Breidbart Index" (without
> > quotes).
>
> I've never had good luck combining google and usenet. Most of what I'm
> looking for is limited to a syntax, e.g. Perl, C or Fortran, and these names
> pop up in oodles in the search without having restricted the search. leaving
> me with 500 results that don't do anything I want. :-(
Which 'problem' has exactly nothing to do with the rather unique
keywords/search words at *hand*, "nanae" and "Breidbart". So you were
just lazy.
Blinky the Shark
> On Thu, 24 Apr 2008 23:01:11 -0400, Ted S. wrote:
>
>>> For those who don't already know, "Tom Newton" is really "Alan Connor",
>>> the well-known biggest dipshit ever to post on Usenet.
>
>> You don't remember Serdar Argic?
>> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Serdar_Argic>
>
> Nope, a little before my time on Usenet. Sounds like it was a bot,
> anyway.
Coincidentally, yesterday was apparently some kind of Armenian hoe-down
day. I unknowingly drove through the Little Armenia, on the east side of
Hollywood, yesterday, and some of the streets were blocked off for a block
party or parade or something; on a barracaded cross street near my route
on Sunset Boulevard I saw a radio station remove RV set up. Bunches of
Armenians were driving around with big Armenian flags out of their
sunroofs and another hit was some kind of probably-mylar sheet of that
flag that were stretched over car hoods making them look like the flag was
painted on it. Most of the participants seemed to be about 18; perhaps
the local hair schools and taxi companies and such were giving a day off
to participate.
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Blinky: http://blinkynet.net
Ron Ford
"Frank Slootweg" <th...@ddress.is.invalid> wrote in message
I see.
I decided to shift my pseudonym from my mother's maiden name to the name of
the uncle whose house I inherited. Is it against netiquette to do so?
My keyboard is under-utilized. I have cyrillic characters that I would love
to use to communicate in russian, but when they go from the Russian windows
encoding to usenet, I get a bunch of question marks. Anyone else using
strange fonts and getting it to show up on the web?
Ron Ford
"Frank Slootweg" <th...@ddress.is.invalid> wrote in message
> Gerry Ford <ge...@nowhere.ford> wrote:
>>
>> "Frank Slootweg" <th...@ddress.is.invalid> wrote in message
>> news:48109ec5$0$70976$dbd4...@news.wanadoo.nl...
>> > Gerry Ford <ge...@nowhere.ford> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> "Dan C" <youmust...@lan.invalid> wrote in message
>> >> news:pan.2008.04.24....@moria.lan...
>> >>
>> >> > --
>> >> > "Tom N" ("Tom Newton") - the latest nymshift of "Alan Connor".
>> >> > Read more about the netkook Alan Connor here:
>> >> > http://www.pearlgates.net/nanae/kooks/ac/fga.shtml
>> >> > Email him: calh...@gmail.com or simple...@gmail.com
>> >>
>> >> Dan,
>> >>
>> >> I've never seen anything like this. I usually hang out in technical
>> >> forums that are far less net-savvy. What is nanae?
>> >
>> > Why not click on "Home" on the above mentioned page? Or do a Google
>> > "I'm Feeling Lucky" search? Works nearly always and also in this case.
>
> Non response noted.
See below.
>
>> > [...]
>> >
>> >> What does this statement mean: This yields a Breidbart Index of
>> >> 34.319.
>> >
>> > Blinky already answered that, but again an "I'm Feeling Lucky" search
>> > would have given you the answer.
>> >
>> > Tip: You can also use "define: <term>" in Google's Search box, i.e.
>> > in this case "define: nanae" and "define: Breidbart Index" (without
>> > quotes).
>>
>> I've never had good luck combining google and usenet. Most of what I'm
>> looking for is limited to a syntax, e.g. Perl, C or Fortran, and these
>> names
>> pop up in oodles in the search without having restricted the search.
>> leaving
>> me with 500 results that don't do anything I want. :-(
>
> Which 'problem' has exactly nothing to do with the rather unique
> keywords/search words at *hand*, "nanae" and "Breidbart". So you were
> just lazy.
I wouldn't characterize myself as lazy. There's only so much of this stuff
that a person wants to take in at one time. I can write a fortran program
to calculate a Breidbard number for a given scenario.
# excerpt from google search for nanae:
Do not use the word "SPAMTM" (all capitals), although "spam" and "Spam" are
acceptable. "SPAMTM" is a trademark for Hormel processed meat. If you use
"SPAMTM" to refer to unsolicited advertising email, you will be razzed as a
"clueless newbie".
http://www.hormel.com/
I don't like being called a newbie. Furthermore, I don't like people who
use the term for others. Matter of fact, I'm gonna fry up some SPAM and
onions.
Ron Ford
"Blinky the Shark" <no....@box.invalid> wrote in message
> Dan C wrote:
>
>> On Thu, 24 Apr 2008 23:01:11 -0400, Ted S. wrote:
>>
>>>> For those who don't already know, "Tom Newton" is really "Alan Connor",
>>>> the well-known biggest dipshit ever to post on Usenet.
>>
>>> You don't remember Serdar Argic?
>>> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Serdar_Argic>
> the local hair schools and taxi companies and such were giving a day off
> to participate.
That's wicked. What's funny is that I couldn't picture them until you said
this.
Ted S.
> Coincidentally, yesterday was apparently some kind of Armenian
> hoe-down day. I unknowingly drove through the Little Armenia, on the
> east side of Hollywood, yesterday, and some of the streets were
> blocked off for a block party or parade or something;
Commemoration of the Turkish genocide against Armenians (disputed by
things like Argic), begun in 1915.
Back in the day there was also a frequent poster who went nuts at the
idea that Macedonia might be anything other than Greek, but I can't
remember who that was (or if that too was Argic).
Ted S.
> My keyboard is under-utilized. I have cyrillic characters that I
> would love to use to communicate in russian, but when they go from
> the Russian windows encoding to usenet, I get a bunch of question
> marks. Anyone else using strange fonts and getting it to show up on
> the web?
You apparently have the character encoding (charset) set wrong.
There ought to be a header in your posts something like this:
<snip>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
</snip>
That's a charset for Western European, which contains the diacritical
marks for Français, Español, deutsche Wörter, and so on.
This message should be in one of the Unicode charsets because it's got
both русский язык (кириллица) and Český. I'm just putting in the exotic
letters to show off. Want a Hungarian ő? How about a Lithuanian ė?
:-)
Anyhow, the point is that if you're trying to type Russian letters and
getting odd things showing up as a result, your newsreader is declaring
the wrong charset. You'd need a Unicode-compatible newsreader to type
in multiple languages and display the messages best. Dialog and
Xananews both do it amongst the good newsreaders; Xnews doesn't, which
is the one fatal flaw Xnews has.
Note that if you're stuck on Windows 98 Dialog may not work properly for
you.
Frank Slootweg
[...]
> I decided to shift my pseudonym from my mother's maiden name to the name of
> the uncle whose house I inherited. Is it against netiquette to do so?
Huh? AFAICT, you switched from:
> From: "Gerry Ford" <ge...@nowhere.ford>
to:
> From: "Ron Ford" <r...@nowhere.ford>
So you switched the *first* name, not the *last*/maiden name. Or are
you saying your mother is called "Gerry"? :-)
Anyway, while changing pseudonym should be a rare occurence, AFAIC
it's not against netiquette, especially if you 'announce' it like you
did. If you want to be more net-friendly, you could mention the specific
switch in your sig for some time.
BTW, you might want to change the "@nowhere.ford" part to something
with the RFC compliant [1] ".invalid" TLD (Top Level Domain) at the end,
i.e. for example "@ford.invalid". See my From: line for an example.
[1] RFC 2606 "Reserved Top Level DNS Names"
<http://www.ietf.org/rfc/rfc2606.txt?number=2606>
Frank Slootweg
Non sequitur! (You may want to look that up. :-) c.q. :-()
I'm not saying that you have to take everything in, but that you
shouldn't ask for information which you can easily lookup yourself.
[...]
Ron Ford
"Frank Slootweg" <th...@ddress.is.invalid> wrote in message
My latin is as good as anyone's who didn't grow up catholic. I've read more
WFB than I would care to admit. I know enough to know that I have to say my
mea culpas for that one.
> I'm not saying that you have to take everything in, but that you
> shouldn't ask for information which you can easily lookup yourself.
Nanae is unusual in that it presumably exists as an ng like this one but has
a legitimate presence on the web besides. One thing I like is that the ng's
in technical topics have been chewing off a good piece of wiki for
themselves.