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Ivan The Not-So-Bad
Nov 3, 2012, 10:24:22 AM11/3/12
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Does anyone know of anyone know of any linux readers that will run as a daemon
and provide a web based interface to read news? It would be awesome if slrn had
an http wrapper I could access anywhere on my lan or from work. SSHing to my
home box and reconnecting to my screen session isn't too bad but a web
based interface would be nice
Can anyone think of anything like this?
and provide a web based interface to read news? It would be awesome if slrn had
an http wrapper I could access anywhere on my lan or from work. SSHing to my
home box and reconnecting to my screen session isn't too bad but a web
based interface would be nice
Can anyone think of anything like this?
Mike Yetto
Nov 3, 2012, 12:24:22 PM11/3/12
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Ivan The Not-So-Bad <1su...@yahoo.com> writes and having writ moves on.
If I ever did I would make every effort to stop doing so.
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Whiskers
Nov 3, 2012, 12:24:24 PM11/3/12
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interface; you use a browser to access it. I tried it some years ago and
it was OK, but it doesn't seem to be actively developed.
For something bigger, see <http://www.newsreaders.com/web/software.html>.
Some of those tools might need a seperate local news-server; Leafnode is
probably the most widely used, INN is industrial grade, but there are
several others <http://www.newsreaders.com/unix/servers.html>.
If you are meant to have access to usenet for your job, your employer
should provide it - you shouldn't have to resort to tunneling out to your
own network!
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Ivan The Not-So-Bad
Nov 6, 2012, 8:04:42 AM11/6/12
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job. :D
From the link @ http://www.newsreaders.com/web/software.html it looks like the
majority of the links are 404s at this point. Sadly, it looks like that list is
ancient. Check out the awesome Netscape logo in their favico!
http://newega.free.fr/screenshots.html actually looks closer to an answer, but
it definitely is not as featured as I'd like.
I'd say this shows a distinct shortage of useful web-based usenet readers, but
the union of the shortage of the group of people who use usenet and the group
of people who want something like this is small. I'd consider writing a
solution using Ruby on Rails to interface with leafnode, but I feel as though
I'd be the only person using it :(
Whiskers
Nov 6, 2012, 3:54:33 PM11/6/12
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what is really a text-only medium. If a VPN does what you want, and lets
you use a proper usenet client, what's the problem? If you're worried that
anything but HTTP will be blocked, perhaps
<http://www.unixmen.com/ajaxterm-a-web-based-terminal-that-help-you-use-ssh-from-a-web-browser/>
will give you some ideas.
John F. Morse
Nov 6, 2012, 7:48:15 PM11/6/12
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Select different ports if your employer blocks port 22, or for better
security.
Be sure your router opens the new port to the newsreader box.
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Doug Freyburger
Nov 7, 2012, 12:22:11 PM11/7/12
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Ivan The Not-So-Bad wrote:
rule. Such a client could be run per use and so there would be no need
for such a program to run at the NSP. It would make filters private per
user rather than private per NSP and many users will prefer that.
>><http://newega.free.fr/> is a newsreader that has a web server as its user
>> interface; you use a browser to access it. I tried it some years ago and
>> it was OK, but it doesn't seem to be actively developed.
>>
>> For something bigger, see <http://www.newsreaders.com/web/software.html>.
>> Some of those tools might need a seperate local news-server; Leafnode is
>> probably the most widely used, INN is industrial grade, but there are
>> several others <http://www.newsreaders.com/unix/servers.html>.
>>
>> If you are meant to have access to usenet for your job, your employer
>> should provide it - you shouldn't have to resort to tunneling out to your
>> own network!
>
> Thanks for the followup. I absolutely am not meant to have usenet access at my
> job. :D
I do Usenet searches for work. More often I search the Google groups
archives but I do use both on occasion.
My experience is from my days travelling. I never knew what ports were
blocked yet I needed wide access to research solutions. So i used
Google groups as my primary service for a while then eventually stopped
travelling and later switched back to my current primary NSP E-S.
> From the link @ http://www.newsreaders.com/web/software.html it looks like the
> majority of the links are 404s at this point. Sadly, it looks like that list is
> ancient. Check out the awesome Netscape logo in their favico!
>
> http://newega.free.fr/screenshots.html actually looks closer to an answer, but
> it definitely is not as featured as I'd like.
>
> I'd say this shows a distinct shortage of useful web-based usenet readers, but
> the union of the shortage of the group of people who use usenet and the group
> of people who want something like this is small. I'd consider writing a
> solution using Ruby on Rails to interface with leafnode, but I feel as though
> I'd be the only person using it :(
I'd be happy to switch to it unless some NSP offers filtered reading
with well managed text group coverage. Given the possibility of an NSP
mining my filter files I would be happy to offer it to one. That's
likely a minority opinion and I'm okay with that.
>Whiskers <catwh...@operamail.com> wrote:
>> Ivan The Not-So-Bad <1su...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>>> Does anyone know of anyone know of any linux readers that will run as a
>>> daemon and provide a web based interface to read news? It would be
>>> awesome if slrn had an http wrapper I could access anywhere on my lan or
>>> from work. SSHing to my home box and reconnecting to my screen session
>>> isn't too bad but a web based interface would be nice
>
>>> Can anyone think of anything like this?
A news client that uses NNTP to the server and HTTP to the user would
>> Ivan The Not-So-Bad <1su...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>>> Does anyone know of anyone know of any linux readers that will run as a
>>> daemon and provide a web based interface to read news? It would be
>>> awesome if slrn had an http wrapper I could access anywhere on my lan or
>>> from work. SSHing to my home box and reconnecting to my screen session
>>> isn't too bad but a web based interface would be nice
>
>>> Can anyone think of anything like this?
rule. Such a client could be run per use and so there would be no need
for such a program to run at the NSP. It would make filters private per
user rather than private per NSP and many users will prefer that.
>><http://newega.free.fr/> is a newsreader that has a web server as its user
>> interface; you use a browser to access it. I tried it some years ago and
>> it was OK, but it doesn't seem to be actively developed.
>>
>> For something bigger, see <http://www.newsreaders.com/web/software.html>.
>> Some of those tools might need a seperate local news-server; Leafnode is
>> probably the most widely used, INN is industrial grade, but there are
>> several others <http://www.newsreaders.com/unix/servers.html>.
>>
>> If you are meant to have access to usenet for your job, your employer
>> should provide it - you shouldn't have to resort to tunneling out to your
>> own network!
>
> Thanks for the followup. I absolutely am not meant to have usenet access at my
> job. :D
archives but I do use both on occasion.
My experience is from my days travelling. I never knew what ports were
blocked yet I needed wide access to research solutions. So i used
Google groups as my primary service for a while then eventually stopped
travelling and later switched back to my current primary NSP E-S.
> From the link @ http://www.newsreaders.com/web/software.html it looks like the
> majority of the links are 404s at this point. Sadly, it looks like that list is
> ancient. Check out the awesome Netscape logo in their favico!
>
> http://newega.free.fr/screenshots.html actually looks closer to an answer, but
> it definitely is not as featured as I'd like.
>
> I'd say this shows a distinct shortage of useful web-based usenet readers, but
> the union of the shortage of the group of people who use usenet and the group
> of people who want something like this is small. I'd consider writing a
> solution using Ruby on Rails to interface with leafnode, but I feel as though
> I'd be the only person using it :(
with well managed text group coverage. Given the possibility of an NSP
mining my filter files I would be happy to offer it to one. That's
likely a minority opinion and I'm okay with that.
Whiskers
Nov 7, 2012, 4:20:33 PM11/7/12
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<http://www.dmoz.org/Computers/Usenet/Feed_Services/>. I've never used any
for real, but I doubt if any provide personalised filtering or scoring
comparable with a real news-reader. The demonstration at Newsreaders.com
does work for reading, and the interface is clean and uncluttered.
Doug Freyburger
Nov 8, 2012, 6:35:31 PM11/8/12
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Whiskers wrote:
kill files. To the extent their NSP features better spam filtering than
Google none of them match Google's retention and search capabilities.
not that any of us know how long Google's archive will be available or
if it's on-line at any one time ...
> Doug Freyburger <dfre...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>> I'd be happy to switch to it unless some NSP offers filtered reading
>> with well managed text group coverage ...
>
>> I'd be happy to switch to it unless some NSP offers filtered reading
>
> A few NSPs do offer a web 'gateway'
> <http://www.dmoz.org/Computers/Usenet/Feed_Services/>. I've never used any
> for real, but I doubt if any provide personalised filtering or scoring
> comparable with a real news-reader. The demonstration at Newsreaders.com
> does work for reading, and the interface is clean and uncluttered.
I have tried several NSPs that offer web reading. None of them support
> A few NSPs do offer a web 'gateway'
> <http://www.dmoz.org/Computers/Usenet/Feed_Services/>. I've never used any
> for real, but I doubt if any provide personalised filtering or scoring
> comparable with a real news-reader. The demonstration at Newsreaders.com
> does work for reading, and the interface is clean and uncluttered.
kill files. To the extent their NSP features better spam filtering than
Google none of them match Google's retention and search capabilities.
not that any of us know how long Google's archive will be available or
if it's on-line at any one time ...
Shmuel Metz
Nov 9, 2012, 8:20:44 AM11/9/12
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In <k7e5c2$jfm$1...@dont-email.me>, on 11/07/2012
>It would make filters private per user rather than private per NSP
What news clients don't already support filters?
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at 05:22 PM, Doug Freyburger <dfre...@yahoo.com> said:
>A news client that uses NNTP to the server and HTTP to the user
>would rule. Such a client could be run per use and so there would
>be no need for such a program to run at the NSP.
What advantage would it have over a news client that didn't use HTTP?
>A news client that uses NNTP to the server and HTTP to the user
>would rule. Such a client could be run per use and so there would
>be no need for such a program to run at the NSP.
>It would make filters private per user rather than private per NSP
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Doug Freyburger
Nov 9, 2012, 10:14:36 AM11/9/12
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Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) wrote:
> Doug Freyburger <dfre...@yahoo.com> said:
>
>>A news client that uses NNTP to the server and HTTP to the user
>>would rule. Such a client could be run per use and so there would
>>be no need for such a program to run at the NSP.
>
> What advantage would it have over a news client that didn't use HTTP?
The market says browsers beat other interfaces. Whether you agree with
> Doug Freyburger <dfre...@yahoo.com> said:
>
>>A news client that uses NNTP to the server and HTTP to the user
>>would rule. Such a client could be run per use and so there would
>>be no need for such a program to run at the NSP.
>
> What advantage would it have over a news client that didn't use HTTP?
that observation works the same as declaring McDonalds food bad in spite
of it being the most popular.
>>It would make filters private per user rather than private per NSP
>
> What news clients don't already support filters?
Shmuel Metz
Nov 9, 2012, 5:51:13 PM11/9/12
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In <k7j6ks$nv$1...@dont-email.me>, on 11/09/2012
citing their sales figures. The fact that web browsers are popular is
not a consumer advantage, although it may be an advantage to those
considering whether to write one.
>> What news clients don't already support filters?
>Nearly every current web one.
That sounds like another argument against using web-based browsers.
at 03:14 PM, Doug Freyburger <dfre...@yahoo.com> said:
>The market says browsers beat other interfaces. Whether you agree
>with that observation works the same as declaring McDonalds food bad
>in spite of it being the most popular.
If you want me to shop at mcdonalds you'll need to do better than
>The market says browsers beat other interfaces. Whether you agree
>with that observation works the same as declaring McDonalds food bad
>in spite of it being the most popular.
citing their sales figures. The fact that web browsers are popular is
not a consumer advantage, although it may be an advantage to those
considering whether to write one.
>> What news clients don't already support filters?
>Nearly every current web one.
Me
Nov 10, 2012, 10:26:14 AM11/10/12
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Maybe URD is what you are looking for?
http://urdland.com/cms/component/option,com_frontpage/Itemid,1/
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Ivan The Not-So-Bad
Nov 11, 2012, 12:20:31 AM11/11/12
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session from various places. But I would still love to have the basic slrn
interface via the web served from my home box without having to SSH
Ivan The Not-So-Bad
Nov 11, 2012, 12:25:25 AM11/11/12
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On 2012-11-10, Me <use...@plaguesplace.dyndns.org> wrote:
> Maybe URD is what you are looking for?
>
> http://urdland.com/cms/component/option,com_frontpage/Itemid,1/
My purposes are for reading. For grabbing binaries I have sabnzbd set up :)
> Maybe URD is what you are looking for?
>
> http://urdland.com/cms/component/option,com_frontpage/Itemid,1/
Doug Freyburger
Nov 12, 2012, 11:25:03 AM11/12/12
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>>> What news clients don't already support filters?
>
>>Nearly every current web one.
>
> That sounds like another argument against using web-based browsers.
More sounds like lack of HTTP development means Usenet is obsolete.
>
>>Nearly every current web one.
>
> That sounds like another argument against using web-based browsers.
"Usenet dead, film at 11". The British Empire is still active so past
peak and obsolete does not mean dead. And yet we're still here posting.
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