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Jeffrey Goldberg  
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 More options Sep 28 2007, 3:59 pm
Newsgroups: news.software.readers, comp.mail.pine
From: Jeffrey Goldberg <nob...@goldmark.org>
Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2007 14:59:32 -0500
Local: Fri, Sep 28 2007 3:59 pm
Subject: Re: [alpine] multipart quoting of big5
In <slrnffqipo.3tf....@pjr.gotdns.org>, Peter J Ross wrote:

> I'm beginning to think that Pine is yet another example of software
> that tries to do both mail and news and does at least one of the two
> imperfectly.

You seem to think that message construction and message RFCs are entirely
different things for mail and news.  They are not.

Almost all newsreaders do mail.  Take slrn for example.  When viewing an
article you can 'r' reply by mail or 'F' forward by mail.  Does slrn use a
separate message construction engine for when a message goes out by mail?

If it is unreasonable to expect that newsreaders should construct messages
in different ways when preparing them for new or mail, then it make sense
to implement things in message construction that solve mail problems if
those solutions are also harmless for news.

Those solutions are harmless for all newsreaders that implement MIME
standards that have been around for a very long time.

So although you are using a newsreader that can't cope with text messages
that are encapsulated using methods that have been published standards for
almost two decades, you are in luck because TW has provided, among his
patches, a patch for your newsreader so that it will start doing the right
thing.

> NNTP is 8-bit clean, and has been for a long time. I don't think such
> contortions are needed for Usenet.

News readers also send mail.  And so this is clearly a case where the
robustness principle applies.

-j

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