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Re: [Xnews] newsguy website issues

2013-05-21T13:54:10Z

You must be Swiss if you think the � is antique. It's too bad I can't
post in Fraktur. :-)

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Re: Entourage is a backwater, redneck app, sorry Snit. ï»¿ï»¿

2013-05-21T13:40:34Z

ITYF he's

plank
plank

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Re: Linux newsreader that can search newsserver by Message-ID?

2013-05-21T13:04:48Z

Somewhere I read that doing it, an nntp session, with Python might be
easier.

I installed lynx and I can see where to configure a default news server,
but I can't see how to handle/configure/automate the authentication for
nntp, just something like ftp.

In Win, MS configured a handy little integration between IE and OE. If

Re: Entourage is a backwater, redneck app, sorry Snit. ï»¿ï»¿

2013-05-21T12:28:20Z

chrisv <chr...@nospam.invalid> wrote in

I'm sure you've plonked me before, nitwit.

Re: Entourage is a backwater, redneck app, sorry Snit. ï»¿ï»¿

2013-05-21T12:19:12Z

*plonk*

Re: [Xnews] newsguy website issues

2013-05-21T11:19:06Z

I'm reading/posting from Xnews via "Mime Proxy", I was trying to get
Russian characters, but along the way lost the ability to view/post
the antique German character for "ss"... I'm still working on it :-)

The mproxy settings I was using for character encoding at the time
were

; available charsets for encoding

Re: Linux newsreader that can search newsserver by Message-ID?

2013-05-21T10:51:45Z

Then why did you call 'mechanic' stupid, while he got it (the OP's
question) right and you got it wrong!?

Quite some time before your response, Feranija mentioned Thunderbird
with Mnenhy add-on.

Did you *read* the responses in this thread?

Mentioned were 40tude (Windows) and slrn (all). tin (all) can do it

Re: [Xnews] newsguy website issues

2013-05-21T10:41:42Z

Hi Mike.

Cool, how did you do that? Is "koi8-r" the answer?
(In my version of my first answer the antique German
character "�" was shown.)

Best regards, Thomas
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Re: [Xnews] newsguy website issues

2013-05-21T10:27:25Z

Hi Thomas. Sometimes I don't even like to read words written in my own
mother tongue. ;-)

I'm able to view that 2nd word - its in Russian, so can't decipher it
(but if the 1st word was anything to go by...) but now the German for
sh*t now has a double ss.

Thanks will explore that area now.

Re: [Xnews] newsguy website issues

2013-05-21T09:50:29Z

Mike Dee:

I would agree, except that I can only read characters
found in my mother tongue (which is why I can't read
the second word).

Also I can read articles written in utf-8 and write
answers in the preferred encoding (no problem).

Kind regards, Thomas

PS: As I told Blinky (RIP) seven years ago, I have a

Re: Entourage is a backwater, redneck app, sorry Snit. ï»¿ï»¿

2013-05-21T09:43:46Z

Jeff-Relf.Me <@.> wrote in news:Jeff-Relf.Me@May.18{15.11.Seattle.2013}:

So fucking what.
Get a job, or a hobby, you tedious cunt.

Re: Linux newsreader that can search newsserver by Message-ID?

2013-05-21T08:04:12Z

'Verbatim' marks, pretty much unique to slrn which has a few keys and
colours to manipulate the presentation of the quoted text.

Andrew
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Re: [Xnews] newsguy website issues

2013-05-21T07:13:03Z

Hmmm... das ist nich ser gut.

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Re: Linux newsreader that can search newsserver by Message-ID?

2013-05-21T06:41:05Z

The quotes (") cause a failure if used from within a running Lynx session.
Without the quotes, Lynx works very well, including to unusual ports and with
automatic authinfo prompting.

However, as you show, the quotes are required if Lynx is started from a
terminal with the full URI.

Lynx even follows the References M-IDs (select one and press <Enter>).

Linux newsreader that can search newsserver by Message-ID?

2013-05-21T06:28:57Z

Thunderbird no longer creates a bogus "news" account
when you click on a "news:" link.

Very few people use "news:" links anymore, so it doesn't matter much.
Most, like me, use "http:" ( Google Groups ) links instead.

Re: Linux newsreader that can search newsserver by Message-ID?

2013-05-21T05:28:49Z

Be careful of Thunderbird's display of References links.

If you have more than one news server configured, you may find out that method
gives weird results. Like creating a new news server account called simply
"news" which is not a FQDN, and will get you nowhere.

You also don't need Mnenhy to display these References links.

Re: Linux newsreader that can search newsserver by Message-ID?

2013-05-21T05:23:07Z

He did address that.

Furthermore, the OP specified:

"Recommendations please, for a Linux GUI newsreader client capable of searching the newsserver by Message-ID."

You gave the syntax, which is certainly correct and usable in a telnet
session, but what (Linux GUI) "newsreader" can do that?

Re: [Xnews] newsguy website issues

2013-05-21T03:44:39Z

Bert wrote:

Thanks Bert, however a support person being unsure isn't quite
authoritive enough. Getting a 403 error isn't as polite as one would
like either. A "closed for business" sign or some kind of warning
would've been preferable. I'm hoping that something other than that 403
page surfaces soon.

Re: [Xnews] newsguy website issues

2013-05-21T03:33:54Z

"=?UTF-8?B?wrtRwqs=?="?
I'm sure I'd meant to say �Q�

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Re: [Xnews] newsguy website issues

2013-05-21T03:21:31Z

Any Xnews user can read/post Unicode if they want to. Its not that big
a deal, really.

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Re: [Xnews] newsguy website issues

2013-05-21T01:34:23Z

Scheiße! Пиздеть! :-p

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Re: Linux newsreader that can search newsserver by Message-ID?

2013-05-20T22:51:06Z

Look up the utility called "zenity" if you want a GUI around the user
interaction.

As a general rule, I'd recommend getting all the parameters into your
script before it tries to contact the upstream server (or pass the
parameters to the tool that will actually perform the transaction).

Re: [Xnews] newsguy website issues

2013-05-20T22:38:37Z

I don't want Unicode.

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Re: Linux newsreader that can search newsserver by Message-ID?

2013-05-20T21:22:00Z

While I know that it would be a good experience for me to practice -
learn how to - writing a script...

How would one write a (bash) script that would contain user/pass for
server authentication (for a general/net server, not personal server)
and then pause for pasting in the MID so that the message result would

Re: [Xnews] newsguy website issues

2013-05-20T18:21:04Z

It *does*, as this guy Ted S. pointed out in this very thread! :-)

Re: INN should NOT require an email address.

2013-05-20T18:10:06Z

Nope. This not reading (not comprehending?) and then snipping relevant
material/context is getting really tiresome. But it's not that that bad
habit hasn't been pointed out to you many, many times, is it? Yet you
continue (not) doing it. Your loss.

Re: [Xnews] newsguy website issues

2013-05-20T16:45:22Z

It doesn't do Unicode. :-(

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Re: [Xnews] newsguy website issues

2013-05-20T15:56:36Z

In news:XnsA1C6D883A14A1mikedee@emteedee.invalid Mike Dee

I dropped a note to newsguy support and while the support guy wasn't
sure (?), he thinks that it was removed at the request of the author.

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Re: [Xnews] newsguy website issues

2013-05-20T16:00:20Z

XNews still does what I want it to.

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Re: [Xnews] newsguy website issues

2013-05-20T15:54:48Z

In news:O4KdnXwSw81p2QfMnZ2dnUVZ8nqdnZ2d@giganews.com Pepi

In the period since Xnews was last updated, no one has come forward with
a free Windows news client that attained anything near its acceptance.

And certainly no one has released the source of a news client that even
comes close.

Re: [Xnews] newsguy website issues

2013-05-20T15:44:52Z

And of course no source. Ain't windoze fun? ;)
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Re: Linux newsreader that can search newsserver by Message-ID?

2013-05-20T15:14:31Z

No problem.

Re: [Xnews] newsguy website issues

2013-05-20T11:12:53Z

Thanks Robert, looks like (unless Luu is about to do something
miraculous) Xnews is about to become officially abandonware :-(

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Re: [Xnews] newsguy website issues

2013-05-20T11:09:35Z

And what's the RFC for the trailing smiley? :-)

... one of us "got it".

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Re: Linux newsreader that can search newsserver by Message-ID?

2013-05-20T09:38:23Z

[...]

Indeed. My question was poorly worded.

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Re: Linux newsreader that can search newsserver by Message-ID?

2013-05-20T09:38:23Z

That looks as though it's the answer I was looking for, especially as
T'bird comes with the Linux I've just installed on my MacBook Pro.
Thank you, Feranja.

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Re: Linux newsreader that can search newsserver by Message-ID?

2013-05-20T09:38:23Z

[...]

Yes, I'm familiar with Howard K's very useful look-up page, I'm just
looking for something a bit more convenient to use. It seems that I may
have found it in Thunderbird.

I suspect that it may have something to do with MacSOUP being an offline
'reader, whereas I think T'bird can operate in either on- or off-line

Re: Linux newsreader that can search newsserver by Message-ID?

2013-05-20T08:55:48Z

Thunderbird for Linux with Mnenhy add-on does it. It can search for
news articles by MID locally, remote server, and newsgroups at Google.

Besides that, at the bottom of headers field in opened articles it also
displays clickable references and a message-id (all expandable), just
like in the good old pre-AOL Netscape.

Re: INN should NOT require an email address.

2013-05-20T06:58:58Z

In <aukn3aF1jf...@mid.individual. net>, on 05/04/2013
at 10:16 AM, Steve Bonine <s...@pobox.com> said:

WTF? Who asked for "a standard way of obfuscating the email address"?
There is a standard way to indicate that you don't want your e-mail
address in the From header field, defined in RFC 5537.

Re: INN should NOT require an email address.

2013-05-20T07:02:36Z

In <auoqmcFsnt...@mid.individual. net>, on 05/05/2013
at 09:43 PM, Mike Easter <Mi...@ster.invalid> said:

Why? I know of no historical or operational reason to require a
Reply-To header field/

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Re: INN should NOT require an email address.

2013-05-20T07:10:21Z

In <av4pqbFijr...@mid.individual. net>, on 05/10/2013
at 05:41 PM, Frank Slootweg <t...@ddress.is.invalid> said:

"550 mailbox not found"

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Re: [Xnews] newsguy website issues

2013-05-20T07:27:06Z

In <1lcr2w9izd5w8$....@justacinea st.motzarella.org>, on 05/19/2013
at 02:15 PM, "Ted S." <fe...@hughes.spam> said:

See RFC 2047; the B means BASE64 encoding.

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Re: Linux newsreader that can search newsserver by Message-ID?

2013-05-20T07:41:09Z

In <knb8b6$31...@optima5.xanadu-b bs.net>, on 05/19/2013
at 02:14 PM, "John F. Morse" <j...@example.invalid> said:

Syntax
ARTICLE message-id

Whether searching for a specific message-id is what the OP wants is a
question that only he can address, but it is certainly a search.

Re: Linux newsreader that can search newsserver by Message-ID?

2013-05-20T01:32:31Z

On Sun, 19 May 2013 22:14:15 +0100, Whiskers Inscribed upon the Golden
Tablets of Usenet thusly:

Also try [link]

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2013-05-19T22:26:38Z

To link to a post, I use Google Groups ( HTTP ).

But it's not easy to do.
Usually, I must go to the newsgroup to MANUALLY find the article.

When using my newsreader ( Jeff-Relf.Me/X.HTM ), for myself,
I just select a Message⋅ID, hit a "toolbar button" and I get:

s|b│me@privacy⋅invalid avs29rFmb3...@mid.individual.n et

Re: Linux newsreader that can search newsserver by Message-ID?

2013-05-19T21:29:18Z

OP here. Yes, I am running OSX on my iMac desktop but I've just put a
Linux on my Macbook Pro. Yes, I am looking for a native Linux client,
as requested.

JFTR I don't hold with obfuscating headers, that's trollsign.

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Re: Linux newsreader that can search newsserver by Message-ID?

2013-05-19T21:28:33Z

When you're apparently unable to comprehend a two line post, you would
be well advised to not call someone *else* "stupid".

The OP is somewhat ambiguous, but I'm quite sure that the real
question is not "search[ing]" but "to fetch".

Clue-by-four: article/head/body.

[...]

Re: Linux newsreader that can search newsserver by Message-ID?

2013-05-19T21:14:15Z

If all you're looking for is a GUI way to see an article whose MID you know,
try pointing your web browser at <[link]>. It only
shows one article at a time. Some browsers can be set to use that page as
a 'search engine', to automate lookups a bit.

I'm surprised MacSOUP can't 'find article by MID' or 'download article with

Re: Linux newsreader that can search newsserver by Message-ID?

2013-05-19T20:49:23Z

Pan can't either. Haven't found anything resembling finding articles using
a Message-ID.

Anyone tried Thunderbird? Considering its origin, chances are it might be
able to.

Personally, I hate that bloated piece of junk, but others might like it.
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Re: Linux newsreader that can search newsserver by Message-ID?

2013-05-19T20:13:09Z

Fair enough.

Just for the record, slrn threads beautifully :))

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