[slrn] How to kill
notbob
Sender: <f...@foo.com/foo>
I tried just as is, and putting Xref: in front of it.
No worky.
nb
Whiskers
Where are you seeing such a header? The Message-ID of an article showing
it might help someone to work out how to score on it.
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Mike Dee
"Sender:" header? Makes no sensey
More likely would be:
[some hierarchy]
Score: -9999
From: foo@foo\.com
or KF on "Message-ID:" using some constant in a Message-ID of the KF'ee
(using yours as an example):
[some hierarchy]
Score: -9999
Message-ID: notbob@myvai2\.notbob\.com
Scoring on the Xref header would involve using a newsgroup name, as in
"news.software.readers" etc, or on colons ":" alone (for crossposts),
as in:
Score: -9999
Xref: :.*:
Using/new to slrn? and want a primer on scoring?
<http://slrn.sourceforge.net/docs/slrn-FAQ-4.html>
HTH
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notbob
> "Sender:" header? Makes no sensey
No doubt it's a bogus header, but it does appear in the headers of a
notorious troll. Not sure how he does it, but he's accurately
spoofing another person's other headers making it hard to kf him using
"from" and other usual headers.
nb
Adam Funk
> Sender: is a standard header, just like From: or Reply-To: .
It's unusual in "normal" newsgroup messages, isn't it? I get the
impression it only turns up where posts have been forwarded to a
newsgroup from a mailing list.
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notbob
> impression it only turns up where posts have been forwarded to a
> newsgroup from a mailing list.
Whatever, it fails to be a kf'able header. Why?
nb
Robert Grimm
> Whatever, it fails to be a kf'able header. Why?
Probably because you don't use 'full' scoring.
Press 'k' and 'f' in group display and try again.
Rob
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Moe Trin
<fcn0u6x...@news.ducksburg.com>, Adam Funk wrote:
>Sn!pe wrote:
>> notbob <not...@nothome.com> wrote:
>>> No doubt it's a bogus header,
RFC0822 Section 4.4.2
RFC1036 Section 2.2.2
RFC2822 Section 3.6.2
RFC5322 Section 3.6.2
draft-spencer-usefor-son-of-1036-01 Section 6.4
draft-ietf-usefor-usefor-12 Section 3.2
draft-ietf-usefor-usepro-14 Section 3.10.2 pg 29 top
Note: The last three are drafts of proposed RFCs, and thus are not to
be considered authoritative.
>>> but it does appear in the headers of a notorious troll. Not sure
>>> how he does it, but he's accurately spoofing another person's
>>> other headers making it hard to kf him using "from" and other
>>> usual headers.
>> Sender: is a standard header, just like From: or Reply-To: .
Agree
>It's unusual in "normal" newsgroup messages, isn't it?
Of the ~2000 articles on my news spool, there are 28 cases where it's
used by an individual, and 419 where it's used in articles posted to
'moderated' newsgroups (in which case it seems to be the identity of
the moderator).
>I get the impression it only turns up where posts have been
>forwarded to a newsgroup from a mailing list.
That may be a common usage, but it's far from the only usage.
Old guy
Adam Funk
> On Wed, 25 Nov 2009, in the Usenet newsgroup news.software.readers, in article
><fcn0u6x...@news.ducksburg.com>, Adam Funk wrote:
[Sender-header on USENET]
>>It's unusual in "normal" newsgroup messages, isn't it?
>
> Of the ~2000 articles on my news spool, there are 28 cases where it's
> used by an individual, and 419 where it's used in articles posted to
> 'moderated' newsgroups (in which case it seems to be the identity of
> the moderator).
>
>>I get the impression it only turns up where posts have been
>>forwarded to a newsgroup from a mailing list.
>
> That may be a common usage, but it's far from the only usage.
Oops, it does turn up a lot in moderated groups too. Thanks for the
correction.
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Adam Funk
I tested the following rule in ~/.slrn/score and it worked. I don't
think there's a "quick" way to generate it from slrn (i.e., without
editing the score file) but you can use it. Note that this is
expensive scoring.
#v+
[*]
Score: 1
Sender: zen
#v-
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Mike Dee
Possibly your news server does not support scoring on headers outside
of XOVER. Telnet to the server and querie it and/or test your score
using a server that does support scoring on all headers, such as
solani.org, eternal-september, or aioe.org, etc.
If it is your news server not allowing it, then it is not a slrn issue
it is a server issue.
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