dumb question...
Brian
What is a score file in a newsreader and why would someone use it?
Jayne Kulikauskas
> and I'm embarrassed asking it.
> What is a score file in a newsreader and why would someone use it?
This is so exciting. Somebody asked a question I knew the answer to. I
think that I'm supposed to say STFW but I'm too excited for that so here is
a link:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scorefile
Or am I supposed to accuse him of being a troll?
Jayne(so much to learn)
Donna
news:19sp9w4psnjys.1kuode6jxms2q$.d...@40tude.net:
> Or am I supposed to accuse him of being a troll?
She (me) is not a troll. I had to reinstall all this faldera to get XNews
to work prooperly. Scorefile, eh?
Thanks!
Donna
::::slips silently back under the bridge to await the trip trap sound
above::::
Donna
news:19sp9w4psnjys.1kuode6jxms2q$.d...@40tude.net:
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scorefile
Bummer, didn't find what I was looking for there.
Thanks anyway.
Donna
Frank Slootweg
Nah, you leave the troll qualification for later. First you complain
about the non-subject, him not mentioning his newsreader, OS, date of
birth and other vital information. Also posting without a lastname is a
no-no. (Using a nym OTOH is way kewl.) Then their [1] is the domain
abuse, and I'm sure we can think of something bad about Supernews. I
think that's it for now.
Yours truly,
B'Stard
[1] It should be obvious what this is for.
Donna
$dbd4...@news.wanadoo.nl:
> him not mentioning his newsreader,
I'm a she, daggumit.
Sheesh.
Donna
:::noting she forgot to mention XNews, or did she::::
Donna
@authen.yellow.readfreenews.net:
> Have you read the HELP in XNEWS? If you go to HELP > MANUAL and click
> on #16 Score file, it has quite a bit of info.
Of course not, I never read help files :)
Donna
Marcel Beaudoin
news:12em6re...@corp.supernews.com:
> and I'm embarrassed asking it.
> What is a score file in a newsreader and why would someone use it?
A score file is, in essence, a file that assist syour newsreader in
defining how inportant you rate certain posts/posters/crosspossts, etc.
What it allows you to do is to score a post based on a set of criteria that
the user defines.
For example, youmay score posts from a certain poster at +2000, because he
is sometimes useful. Crossposts to another group may interest you as well,
so you can score those at +50.
Then, if the poster mentioned above made a post and crossposted it to the
above group, that post would get scored +2050, and it would be noted in
your newsreader.
XNews allows you to set scores between -9999 and +9999, and you can set
your filter to display a set range.
--
Marcel
http://mudbunny.blogspot.com/
Ben Shimmin
> Frank Slootweg <th...@ddress.is.invalid> wrote in news:44eb23a0$0$46154
> $dbd4...@news.wanadoo.nl:
>> him not mentioning his newsreader,
>
> I'm a she, daggumit.
>
> Sheesh.
Um. The original post in this thread came from `Brian'. This is usually
considered to be a man's name, I would have thought.
b.
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`A man with priorities so far out of whack doesn't deserve such
a fine automobile.' -- Ferris Bueller, on his day off
Brian
I'm not sure why knowing the newsreader or os would help anything,
wouldn't the meaning of scorefile be the same?
Also, what do you mean by domain abuse? I really didn't think I had to
use my REAL address.
Brian
So, I have to "train" a score file, kinda' like a junk mail filter?
Brian
> Brian wrote:
>
>> So, I have to "train" a score file, kinda' like a junk mail filter?
>
>
> Intro to Xnews' score file.
>
> Xnews happily steals the scoring system concept from slrn. Basically, each
> article is assigned a score from -9999 to 9999. By default, an article has
> score 0 (no score, or neutral). Articles with score of -9999 or less are
> killed (you'll never see them, unless you turn off hard kill, in which case
> they show up with a red X icon). Articles with score of 9999 or more are
> considered "important" and flagged with a yellow ! icon.
>
> Xnews scores articles using rules you specify in the score file score.ini.
> This file is a plain text file which you can edit with any text editor
> (Notepad will do). Spaces, tabs, and blank lines are ignored except in
> keywords and regular expressions. The score file consists of sections (like
> ini files). Each section begins with a section header
>
> [group-regular-expression]
>
> that is, a regular expression surrounded by [ ] The header indicates which
> groups this section applies to. For example,
>
> [.]
>
> indicates this section applies to all groups.
>
> [^alt\.binaries]
>
> indicates this section applies to all groups starting with 'alt.binaries'
>
> [babylon|trek]
>
> indicates this section applies to all groups containing the word 'babylon' or
> 'trek'.
>
> If group-regular-expression is preceded with a tilde (~), then the meaning is
> inverted. For example, [~babylon|trek] applies to all groups that do NOT
> contain either 'babylon' or 'trek'
>
> Within each group, you have one or more scoring rules. Each rule begins like
> so:
>
> Score: number
>
> that is, the keyword 'Score', followed by ':', followed by one or more
> spaces, then an integer from -9999 to 9999.
>
> You define each rule by specifying one or more of these headers.and the
> expression to match, like so
>
> keyword: expression-to-match
>
> where keyword is one of:
>
> Message-ID, Subject, From, Xref, Lines, References
>
> Here's an example:
>
>
> [.]
> Score: -9999
> Subject: \$\$\$+
>
> Score: 9999
> From: luu.*tran
>
> The two rules above apply to all groups. The first assigns a score of -9999
> (i.e., kills) any article which has three or more consecutive $ in the
> subject. The second marks as important any article whose author is yours
> truly (ah, ego runs amok!).
>
> If you precede keyword with a ~, then the meaning is inverted. so
>
> Score: -1000
> ~Subject: mulder|sculley
>
> subtract 1000 from the score any article that does NOT mention mulder or
> sculley in the subject.
>
> When the keyword is Lines, then the expression-to-match is an integer
> specifying the minimum number of lines. For example,
>
> [~binaries]
> Score: -9999
> Lines: 1000
> ~Subject: faq|rfd|rfc
>
> kills any article appearing outside a binaries group with more than 1000
> lines AND is not a FAQ, RFC, or RFD.
>
> On the other hand
>
> [binaries]
> Score: -9999
> ~Lines: 50
>
> kills any article in a binaries group with 50 or fewer lines.
>
> By the way, I'm only indenting these lines to make it more readable; it makes
> no difference otherwise. The only important thing is each of the lines above
> must appear on a single line by itself. Also, you can add comments by
> putting a percent sign (%) at the beginning of the line.
>
> By default, each individual test must pass in order for the scoring rule to
> apply, i.e., boolean AND is the default. If you want to use boolean OR
> instead, add an extra : after the Score keyword. For example,
>
> [^comp\.]
> Score:: -9999
> Lines: 1000
> Xref: advocacy
> From: beavis
> From: butthead
>
>
> kills any article posted in a comp group which has more than 1000 lines, or
> is crospposted to advocacy, or is from beavis or butthead.
>
> Note that all keywords are case insensitive. So too are all regular
> expressions, so you don't need to write [Ff][Oo][Oo], just foo will do. If
> you want the expression-to-match to be case sensitive, then put an equal
> sign instead of of a : after the keyword, e.g.
>
>
> [.]
> Score: -9999
> ~Subject= .*[a-z]
>
> kills anything that does not contain at least one lower case letter in the
> subject.
>
> Sections and rules within each session are applied in the order that they
> aappear in the score file. Each article starts out with a score of zero,
> then for each rule that it passes, its score is incremented or decremented by
> the rule's score value except when the rule's score value is -9999 or 9999,
> in which case the program assigns that score and stops any further testing.
> If you want to assign a single score other than 9999 or -9999, then put an
> equal sign in front of the score value. For example
>
> Score: =500
> From: joey
>
> means "if an article was posted by joey, then assign it a score of 500 and
> don't bother looking at any other rule."
>
> You can add an expiration date to each rule, after which time the rule will
> no longer fires. The format is
>
> Expires: date
>
> The line, if present, must appear immediately after a Score: line. For
> example
>
> % this rule expires at the end of the millenium
> % (okay, the year 1999 anyway :)
>
> Score: 2000
> Expires: 12/31/1999
> ....
>
> The date format is locale-dependent. It's mm/dd/yyyy for those in the US and
> dd/mm/yyyy for those in the UK and elsewhere.
>
> If you have an empty section, then scoring for groups matching that section
> will halt at that point. For example, if you want to apply some scores to
> binaries group, but not discussion binaries group, you can do this
>
> [binaries.*\.d$]
> % this section is left intentionally empty. It prevents the scores below
> from
> % being applied to binaries groups ending in .d
>
> [binaries]
> Score: 2000
> ......
>
> Xnews' score file format is very similar to slrn's, with (at least) these
> differences: 1) regular expressions are case insensitive in Xnews; 2) slrn
> treats section headers as wildcard expressions while xnews treats them as
> full regular expressions; 3) Xnews does NOT allow scoring on any header other
> than those mentioned, namely, Message-ID, From, Subject, XRef, Lines, and
> References; and 4) as far as I know, slrn doesn't use the empty section as a
> mean to stop evaluation.
>
> You can read an intro to slrn score file at
>
> http://kwaziwai.cc.columbia.edu/acis/tutor/slrnscore-txt.html
>
> There's also a slrn score file FAQ at
>
> http://kwaziwai.cc.columbia.edu/acis/tutor/slrnscorefile-faq.html
>
> You can incorporate ideas in the FAQ to make your own score file, taking into
> account the differences stated above.
>
>
> Luu Tran
> Feb 23, 1999
>
>
>
> % sample score file
> % rename it as score.ini to use it
> % modify to suit your needs
> % read scoring.txt for instructions
>
> % in all groups
> [.]
> % kill money spam and sex spam
> Score:: -9999
> Subject: \$\$\$+
> Subject: [fs]uck|sex|xxx+|naked|nude
>
>
> % kill if subject doesn't contain at least 1 lower case letter
> % i.e., kill all caps subject
> Score:: -9999
> ~Subject= [a-z]
>
> % kill followup to all caps subject while we're at it.
> Score: -9999
> Subject= ^[Rr][Ee]: [^a-z]*$
> Subject= ^[Rr][Ee]: .*[A-Z]
>
> % unless in alt or binaries group
> [~alt|binaries]
> % kill stuff crossposted to binaries
> Score:: -9999
> XRef: binaries
>
> % in midi groups
> [midi]
> % kill anything with less than 80 lines
> Score: -9999
> ~Lines: 80
>
> % investment tracking
> [invest]
> Score: 9999
> Subject: dell|compaq|cpq|intel|intc
Wow, my head is spinning. Thanks for all the info!
Frank Slootweg
> Frank Slootweg <th...@ddress.is.invalid> wrote in news:44eb23a0$0$46154
> $dbd4...@news.wanadoo.nl:
>
> > him not mentioning his newsreader,
>
> I'm a she, daggumit.
You're not the OP (Original Poster) (of *this* thread). You are using
a different newsreader and NSP (News SP) (and have a different name and
gender).
> Sheesh.
Indeed! :-)
Jayne Kulikauskas
Don't worry. We were engaging in humourous banter. It is an allusion to
another thread(s) about how people here treat questions. Frank was just
coaching me on how to fit in by giving me obnoxious lessons.
Jayne
Frank Slootweg
> Frank Slootweg wrote:
> > Jayne Kulikauskas <jayne.ku...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> On Tue, 22 Aug 2006 10:57:50 -0400, Brian wrote:
> >>
> >>> and I'm embarrassed asking it.
> >>> What is a score file in a newsreader and why would someone use it?
> >> This is so exciting. Somebody asked a question I knew the answer to. I
> >> think that I'm supposed to say STFW but I'm too excited for that so here is
> >> a link:
> >> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scorefile
> >>
> >> Or am I supposed to accuse him of being a troll?
> >
> > Nah, you leave the troll qualification for later. First you complain
> > about the non-subject, him not mentioning his newsreader, OS, date of
> > birth and other vital information. Also posting without a lastname is a
> > no-no. (Using a nym OTOH is way kewl.) Then their [1] is the domain
> > abuse, and I'm sure we can think of something bad about Supernews. I
> > think that's it for now.
> >
> > Yours truly,
> >
> > B'Stard
> >
> > [1] It should be obvious what this is for.
>
> I'm not sure why knowing the newsreader or os would help anything,
> wouldn't the meaning of scorefile be the same?
First of all: Of course my response was mainly in jest.
Indeed the general meaning of scorefile is not newsreader dependent,
but, as has been noted in other responses, the capabilities, features,
syntax, etc. largely differ between newsreaders, so (also) giving
newsreader specific answers is normally best.
> Also, what do you mean by domain abuse? I really didn't think I had to
> use my REAL address.
No, you don't have to use your real address, but you should not use
(read: abuse) a domain for which you do not have *specific* permission
to use it.
I have not checked, but I assume that you have no permission to use
the nawbabynaw.com domain. It is not relevant whether the domain
actually exists or not. If you have no permission, you should not use
it. Analogy: Just compare it to a street address. You are not supposed
to use a street address for which you have no specific permission to use
it, and it's irrelevant if the address exists or not.
What you can do is use a fake address and add ".invalid" at the end.
See for example my (non) address. ".invalid" is a (RFC) *standard* [1]
TLD (Top Level Domain) which is guaranteed to never exist, so basically
you can use <anything>@<anything>.invalid and you'll be OK. The added
advantage of using ".invalid" is that ".invalid"-aware mailers (MUAs)
will not even *try* to send mail to such (non) addresses.
BTW, do *not* use a real address with ".invalid" at the end, because
also spammers are aware of the ".invalid" convention and will just
remove that part.
I hope this helps and welcome to the group.
[1] ".invalid" TLD: RFC 2606 "Reserved Top Level DNS Names":
<http://www.ietf.org/rfc/rfc2606.txt?number=2606>
Brian
Sweet, I didn't know about the domain stuff. Hope you don't mind, I am
now using your "invalid address". Is that okay?
Brian
Troy Piggins
> Donna <do...@spaminatorcroakerwoods.com>:
> > Frank Slootweg <th...@ddress.is.invalid> wrote in news:44eb23a0$0$46154
> > $dbd4...@news.wanadoo.nl:
> >> him not mentioning his newsreader,
> >
> > I'm a she, daggumit.
> >
> > Sheesh.
>
> Um. The original post in this thread came from `Brian'. This is usually
> considered to be a man's name, I would have thought.
Me thinks Donna got her thread mixed up with Brian's.
Cheers
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Alan Co297jsfd
he/she/it I don't care
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Troy Piggins
* Brian <nos...@nawbabynaw.com> :
It appears you are using and talking about Thunderbird? T'bird
calls them message filters. You can't automatically train them
like the junk mail filter, you have to manually create them.
Look at tools->message filters.
Sadly T'bird's scoring has a long way to go, in fact I wouldn't
even call it scoring, it is only a simple filter. Mind you I
haven't used it extensively for usenet, I use slrn and more
recently mutt-ng on linux.
For more info/help, try the alt.fan.mozilla group also.
Cheers
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Mike Yetto
Jayne Kulikauskas wrote...
>> I'm not sure why knowing the newsreader or os would help
>> anything, wouldn't the meaning of scorefile be the same?
>> Also, what do you mean by domain abuse? I really didn't think I
>> had to use my REAL address.
>
> Don't worry. We were engaging in humourous banter. It is an
> allusion to another thread(s) about how people here treat
> questions. Frank was just coaching me on how to fit in by
> giving me obnoxious lessons.
>
If you aspire to obtain a basic obnoxious rating (BOR) you should
have mentioned the Whoosh Bird.
Mike "increase your BORing quotient overnight" Yetto
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government ought to be to trust no man living with power to
endanger the public liberty."
- John Adams
Donna
@usenet.piggo.com:
> Me thinks Donna got her thread mixed up with Brian's.
>
> Cheers
Youthinks correctly. Sorry guys and gals. I must be sorta sleeping today.
At least Xnews is working correctly for me now.
Donna
The embarassed one
Frank Slootweg
> Frank Slootweg wrote:
> > Brian <nos...@nawbabynaw.com> wrote:
[deleted]
> >> Also, what do you mean by domain abuse? I really didn't think I had to
> >> use my REAL address.
[deleted]
> > What you can do is use a fake address and add ".invalid" at the end.
> > See for example my (non) address. ".invalid" is a (RFC) *standard* [1]
> > TLD (Top Level Domain) which is guaranteed to never exist, so basically
> > you can use <anything>@<anything>.invalid and you'll be OK. The added
> > advantage of using ".invalid" is that ".invalid"-aware mailers (MUAs)
> > will not even *try* to send mail to such (non) addresses.
[deleted]
> Sweet, I didn't know about the domain stuff. Hope you don't mind, I am
> now using your "invalid address". Is that okay?
Well, yes and 'no'. Yes, because if I remember correctly, I also
'borrowed' it from someone else. 'No', because for some searches in (for
example) Google Groups, it will look if everybody with the same
'address' is the same poster. I.e. I would *prefer* it if you could use
something which is (ever so slightly) different. But ... it's a free
world, so ...
Frank Slootweg
> * Ben Shimmin <b...@llamaselector.com> :
> > Donna <do...@spaminatorcroakerwoods.com>:
> > > Frank Slootweg <th...@ddress.is.invalid> wrote in news:44eb23a0$0$46154
> > > $dbd4...@news.wanadoo.nl:
> > >> him not mentioning his newsreader,
> > >
> > > I'm a she, daggumit.
> > >
> > > Sheesh.
> >
> > Um. The original post in this thread came from `Brian'. This is usually
> > considered to be a man's name, I would have thought.
>
> Me thinks Donna got her thread mixed up with Brian's.
Your response (and Donna's response to it) were incorrectly threaded
in my newsreader.
While displaying Donna's response, I got "Parent article is
unavailable" when trying to look at the parent (i.e. your response). So
I checked and my newsreader could not *find* your article, but it could
*display* it.
Upon investigation, I found this in it:
> Message-ID: <2006082...@usenet.piggo.com>
^^
I.e. it has *two* spaces after "Message-ID:". I haven't checked the
RFCs et al, but AFAIK, that's incorrect.
I hope this helps.
Troy Piggins
Thanks Frank! I'm trying this new newsreader mutt-ng, and
although the macro for custom message-ids only has one space in
there, it appears to add another space by itself. Must be a bug.
I'll pass it on.
I think I fixed it now, we'll see with this post.
Cheers
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Frank Slootweg
[deleted]
> Thanks Frank! I'm trying this new newsreader mutt-ng, and
> although the macro for custom message-ids only has one space in
> there, it appears to add another space by itself. Must be a bug.
> I'll pass it on.
>
> I think I fixed it now, we'll see with this post.
Worked OK, but it already was OK in another response [1], so ...
Anyway, you next task is to get it to strip the "(was: ...)" bit when
responding. :-)
Brian
> <article not downloaded>
>
> he/she/it I don't care
>
What's this mean?
Brian
how's this?
Troy Piggins
> Troy Piggins <usene...@piggo.com> wrote:
> [deleted]
>
> > Thanks Frank! I'm trying this new newsreader mutt-ng, and
> > although the macro for custom message-ids only has one space in
> > there, it appears to add another space by itself. Must be a bug.
> > I'll pass it on.
> >
> > I think I fixed it now, we'll see with this post.
>
> Worked OK, but it already was OK in another response [1], so ...
Yeah, I just noticed that. I'm on it.
> Anyway, you next task is to get it to strip the "(was: ...)" bit when
> responding. :-)
Gimme a break, it's 6.30am and I've been up since 2.30am not able
to sleep stressing about work :-(
Thanks.
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Brian
found anything but tbird for mac
Frank Slootweg
Well MP/CAD [1], *there* is an opportunity for you! :-)
In the meantime: Brian, don't worry about it. It was mainly a
reference to Donna saying she's a she (while I was talking to you, i.e.
a he). And "<article not downloaded>" is an in-joke referring to the
resident kook ('village idiot').
[1] These are other posters, i.e. *not* you (Brian).
Frank Slootweg
> Frank Slootweg wrote:
[deleted]
> >> Sweet, I didn't know about the domain stuff. Hope you don't mind, I am
> >> now using your "invalid address". Is that okay?
> >
> > Well, yes and 'no'. Yes, because if I remember correctly, I also
> > 'borrowed' it from someone else. 'No', because for some searches in (for
> > example) Google Groups, it will look if everybody with the same
> > 'address' is the same poster. I.e. I would *prefer* it if you could use
> > something which is (ever so slightly) different. But ... it's a free
> > world, so ...
>
> how's this?
That's fine!
I tried to think of some example for you, but nothing useful and clear
came to mind. Never thought of a simple "this" -> "my". Silly me! :-)
[Note to self: Check in a day or so if the Google Groups problem is
indeed solved.]
»Q«
> * Frank Slootweg <th...@ddress.is.invalid> :
>
>> Anyway, you next task is to get it to strip the "(was: ...)"
>> bit when responding. :-)
>
> Gimme a break, it's 6.30am and I've been up since 2.30am not able
> to sleep stressing about work :-(
That's four hours you could have spent RingTFM! Sheesh!
;)
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»Q«
links to Xnews resources:
<http://xnews.remarqs.net>
Alan Conanspalt
> think that I'm supposed to say STFW but I'm too excited for that so here is
> a link:
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scorefile
>
> Or am I supposed to accuse him of being a troll?
Only after you check his google posting profile!
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Troy Piggins
> Troy Piggins wrote:
> >[crossposted to alt.fan.mozilla]
> >* Brian <nos...@nawbabynaw.com> :
> >>Marcel Beaudoin wrote:
> >>>Brian <nos...@nawbabynaw.com> wrote in
> >>>news:12em6re...@corp.supernews.com:
> >>>>and I'm embarrassed asking it. What is a score file in a
> >>>>newsreader and why would someone use it?
> >>So, I have to "train" a score file, kinda' like a junk mail filter?
> >
> >It appears you are using and talking about Thunderbird? T'bird
> >calls them message filters. You can't automatically train them
> >like the junk mail filter, you have to manually create them.
> >Look at tools->message filters.
> >Sadly T'bird's scoring has a long way to go, in fact I wouldn't
> >even call it scoring, it is only a simple filter. Mind you I
> >haven't used it extensively for usenet, I use slrn and more
> >recently mutt-ng on linux.
> >For more info/help, try the alt.fan.mozilla group also.
> >Cheers
>
> cool, thanks. I actually was thinking more for xnews on my pc haven't found
> anything but tbird for mac
Ok, I didn't note that in your original post. Xnews has much
better scoring. Sorry to steer you down the wrong path - Xnews
is a much better newsreader for Windows.
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Troy Piggins
> Troy Piggins <usene...@piggo.com> wrote in
> <news:2006082...@usenet.piggo.com>:
>
> > * Frank Slootweg <th...@ddress.is.invalid> :
> >
> >> Anyway, you next task is to get it to strip the "(was: ...)"
> >> bit when responding. :-)
> >
> > Gimme a break, it's 6.30am and I've been up since 2.30am not able
> > to sleep stressing about work :-(
>
> That's four hours you could have spent RingTFM! Sheesh!
>
> ;)
Now I'm gonna cry :'(
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Brian
LOL! Who's on second? ;)
Brian
> Ok, I didn't note that in your original post. Xnews has much
> better scoring. Sorry to steer you down the wrong path - Xnews
> is a much better newsreader for Windows.
>
My bad, it wasn't in my original post, or was it, I lost track now. ;)
Robert Singers
> So, I have to "train" a score file, kinda' like a junk mail filter?
It's a little bit more manual than that.
Here's parts of mine as an example (in our new spirit of peace and love)
[.]
% Complete Nonsense
Score:: =-9999
Subject: bible|christ|jehov|jesus
Subject: cash|\bcum\b|dollar|\belotto|get rich|inves|low(.*)pri|
Subject: milli(.*)re|money|\bpussi|\$(.*)\$
Subject: ^\[?f\.?a\.?\]?\b
Subject: (\$(.*)|\bipods?\b)(.*)(free|deal)|
Subject: (\bfree\b(.*)\bipods?\b|\bmini\b|\bmusic\b)
From: cash|inter(.*)tool|million(.*)re|money|(.*)\.ru$|Koi\-Lo
From: postmaster, \<anon, remailer, \<alias,
%Alan Connor
From: s...@email-scan.com|Alan Connor
Message-ID: \.i3x9mdw@b29x3m\.invalid
References: \.i3x9mdw@b29x3m\.invalid
Xref: wicca|it\.test
NNTP-Posting-Host: host110.201-253-16.telecom.net.ar
% From: jabriol1?@|(rbwaters|staplehead)
%Trolling... "Jabroil (63.154.80.*, 151.204.42.*, & 65.54.*, 65.229.*)"
Score:: =-7000
Message-ID: @news\.sisna\.com>
% Complete Retard
Score:: -666
From: thanatoid|r...@TheWorld.com|j...@info2.uah.edu
% Nonsense
Score:: -222
Message-ID: @anonymous|@dizum|@firenze|@gilgamesh|@paranoici|@remailer
Message-ID: tatoo|@liberty|@cypher|@mixmaster|@mail.cypher|
Message-ID: netvigator.com|@x-privat.org|@pita.alt.net|Jeff_Relf
Message-ID: @mixmaster|@punisher|google|earthlink\.net
From: @tv.net, remailer
Subject: Carol|Jabriol|McKoi
Xref: (.*:){3}|atheism|culture|newsserver|religion
% Moderate Retard or Dumb Newsgroups
Score:: -111
From: <put person here>
Xref: soc\.men
% Using XNews
Score:: 111
Message-ID=^\<Xns
% OK Dudes
Score:: 444
From: <put person here>
% Replies
Score:: 4444
References: <put your ID token here>
[^alt\.free\.newsservers$]
Score:: =-9999
Xref: :.*:
~Xref: alt\.(usen(.*)comparison|(.*)wservers)|news\.s(.*)readers
Score:: =-9999
Newsgroups: ,
~Newsgroups: alt\.(usen(.*)comparison|(.*)wservers)|news\.s(.*)readers
Score:: =-9999
Message-ID:
435b66ce|@(ann?on|diz|mail\.cyp|mixm|paran|pun|(.*)cw.?\.g) Path:
nym\.a|fe0|\-rhei Subject:
carr?ol|connor|god|hall\b|jabb?|rec\.|religio Subject:
Carol|Cracklin|Emp[eo]r[eo]r|Jabriol|Horwathie|ponds References:
975834@ Message-ID: 975834@
NNTP-Posting-Host: 81\.236\.171\.146|64\.121\.22\.24
Xref: ponds|religion|origins
[^news\.software\.readers$]
Score:: -111
~Subject: xnews|scoring
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Troy Piggins
>>> Your response (and Donna's response to it) were incorrectly
>>> threaded
>>> in my newsreader.
>>>
>>> While displaying Donna's response, I got "Parent article is
>>> unavailable" when trying to look at the parent (i.e. your
>>> response). So
>>> I checked and my newsreader could not *find* your article, but it
>>> could
>>> *display* it.
>>>
>>> Upon investigation, I found this in it:
>>>
>>> > Message-ID: <2006082...@usenet.piggo.com>
>>> ^^
>>>
>>> I.e. it has *two* spaces after "Message-ID:". I haven't checked
>>> the
>>> RFCs et al, but AFAIK, that's incorrect.
>>>
>>> I hope this helps.
>
You know I went back and had a look at all the posts I've made
with mutt-ng and found some OK and some not. Then I thought how
mutt-ng is based on mutt, so I went back and looked at all the
mails I've sent with mutt.
You know the bug is in mutt! I've been mailing with that
Message-ID macro for years with most emails having 2 spaces
betweeen header name and content! Eep.
Never noticed it before. Fixed now, of course. I hope...
send-hook . 'my_hdr Message-ID:<`date +"%Y%m%d%H%M%S"`@troy.piggo.com>'
send-hook [exceptions] 'my_hdr [other message-ids]'
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