I've stumbled across this poster calling himself "Dave Searles" in
the NG: alt.comp.software.newsreaders, who's writing style is *very*
similar to the "Hieronymus S. Freely" posting "style" in this NG.
A little similarity in headers (inconclusive), as both are using
different (free) servers to post:
From: "Hieronymus S. Freely" <hsfr...@xavier.uwsc.edu>
Newsgroups: news.software.readers
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 2009 19:04:46 -0400
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
X-Antivirus-Status: Clean
X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 091012-0, 12/10/2009), Outbound message
User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812)
From: Dave Searles <sea...@hoombah.nurt.bt.uk>
Newsgroups: alt.comp.software.newsreaders
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 2009 19:12:09 -0400
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
X-Antivirus-Status: Clean
X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 091012-0, 12/10/2009), Outbound message
User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812)
Check these posts out in the NG; alt.comp.software.newsreaders if
interested - not in the 'big 8' sadly (GG may be the only option if
your news server doesn't provide this group):
M-ID: <news:hat06e$uem$1...@news.eternal-september.org>
M-ID: <news:hb0cvh$qoo$1...@news.eternal-september.org>
Similar posting styles:
------------------------
"Dave Searles"
> [says I'm a liar]
No, you are.
> [personal attack deleted]
Wrong.
------------------------
"Hieronymus S. Freely"
> [calls me a liar]
Error: wrong target.
> [insult]
(You're a sore loser!)
------------------------
The thread itself began:
From: Dave Searles <sea...@hoombah.nurt.bt.uk>
Newsgroups: alt.comp.software.newsreaders
Subject: Recommend Windows newsreader?
Date: Thu, 03 Sep 2009 18:50:25 -0400
M-ID: <news:h7ph7l$ifn$1...@news.eternal-september.org>
My posts in this thread began:
M-ID: <news:Xns9CA1A4C02...@188.40.43.213>
I've since GG searched on Dave Searles and he has a posting
history/style like HSF. Both personas are so similar that I am
99.9% convinced they are the same persons.
Whatever; they're both <words fail me>...
--
dee
> Mike Dee <mik...@emteedee.invalid> wrote:
>
>> I've since GG searched on Dave Searles and he has a posting
>> history/style like HSF. Both personas are so similar that I am
>> 99.9% convinced they are the same persons.
>
> See also Seamus MacRae (Bobby Larter, Lionel); the Seamus
> persona posts in a very similar maner. I have to say that Feebly
> is a very successful troll though, if judged by the number of
> responses that it elicits.
Hi Snipe.
Thanks for that: I think Seamus, Dave, and HSF are one and the same.
Their headers are all too similar, same clients posting from the
same TZs at least. I tried to GG "Bobby Larter", but couldn't get a
hit.
Another clue was given in "Dave Searles" OP into
alt.comp.software.newsreaders, where he was waxing on about the
features he wanted to see in Thunderbird. This mentioned
multiple personality postings.
<DS>----------------------------------
M-ID: <news:h7ph7l$ifn$1...@news.eternal-september.org>
* Multiple server configurations with the same server hostname can
be made without clobbering each other's settings. (As it stands,
there's a workaround to get a small number: use the IP address
for one, the hostname for the second, and if there are additional
hostnames for the same server, use those; for instance, if
foo.org and nntp.foo.org are aliases for 117.114.3.46 all three
of foo.org, nntp.foo.org, and 117.114.3.46 can be used to set up
three identities using that server. But this is pretty sucky and
complex and limited.)...
[...]
...does anybody know of a Windows newsreader that fully
conforms to Windows UI-behavior expectations and that, at minimum:
[...]
* Multiple identities with separate subscribed groups lists, even
more than one using the same server.
<\DS>----------------------------------
> I think it's a bot with occasional manual intervention.
I'm not convinced. Bot-ish, perhaps a cut & paster or someone
with a macro prog or multi-clipboard to cut & paste with.
--
dee
Error: wrong target.
Error: wrong target.
No.
> [personal attack deleted]
Wrong.
Wrong.
Wrong, wrong, and wrong.
> Their headers are all too similar, same clients posting from the
> same TZs at least.
Have you any idea how many Thunderbird users are out there? It's gotta
be in the millions.
> [rest of paranoia and stupidity deleted unread]
Wrong, wrong, wrong, and wrong.
Error: wrong target.
Since it's the latest version (it periodically checks for updates), it
is the same version as tens of thousands of people use, if not more;
perhaps even millions.
Have you seen a psychiatrist? You're showing signs of paranoid ideation.
> Dave Searles <sea...@hoombah.nurt.bt.uk> wrote:
>> Wrong.
>
> Hi Dave, first time here? Not that I'm pointing any accusing fingers,
> you understand, but I notice that you're using the same version of
> Thunderbird as our new playmate Hieronymus Feeble. Coincidentally, he
> posts from the same time zone as you, fancy that!
What is even more unique is they both use the same:
> X-Antivirus-Status: Clean
> X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 091012-0, 12/10/2009), Outbound message
I think it is funny that people don't trust their own outgoing text
messages...
--
-bts
-Friends don't let friends drive Windows
> Mike Dee wrote:
>> "Hieronymus S. Freely" - AKA - "Dave Searles"?
>
> No.
Yes.
>> [personal attack deleted]
>
> Wrong.
All the proof I needed, Feeble.
--
dee
No.
>>> [personal attack deleted]
>> Wrong.
>
> All the proof I needed, [insult]
Error: wrong target.
No.
>>> [personal attack deleted]
>> Wrong.
>
Thunderbird has millions of users. Avast! has millions of users. This
time zone has millions of inhabitants. And both software products
auto-update.
This is nothing more than coincidence, and if you don't realize that,
you are in need of psychiatric help.
Hieronymus S. Freely <hsfr...@xavier.uwsc.edu>
A.K.A.
Dave Searles <sea...@hoombah.nurt.bt.uk>
A.K.A.
Seamus MacRae <smacr...@live.ca.invalid>
Anyone else you want to share with us, "Dave"?
--
dee
> Dave Searles <sea...@hoombah.nurt.bt.uk> wrote:
>
>> Mike Dee wrote:
>> > "Hieronymus S. Freely" - AKA - "Dave Searles"?
>>
>> No.
>> interestingly you're using the same
>> > [personal attack deleted]
>>
>> Wrong.
>
> Hi Dave, first time here? Not that I'm pointing any accusing
> fingers, you understand, but I notice that you're using the same
> version of Thunderbird as our new playmate Hieronymus Feeble.
> Coincidentally, he posts from the same time zone as you, fancy
> that!
Isn't it an amazing coincidence that "Dave" has suddingly
"discovered" NSR? - Not!
Hieronymus S. Freely <hsfr...@xavier.uwsc.edu>
A.K.A.
Dave Searles <sea...@hoombah.nurt.bt.uk>
A.K.A.
Seamus MacRae <smacr...@live.ca.invalid>
--
dee
Programs! Get yer *programs*!
Ya can't tell the sockpuppets without a program!
Get yer programs heah!
--
John
Of course, in this group, they'd have to be *newsreader* programs.
And be sure to mark -9999 on the enclosed scorecard.
Yeah! Keep 'em coming. My score file is growing steadily.
nb
If it smells like a troll and it stomps around like a troll and
it bellows like a troll, it must be...
Error: wrong target
Mike "just thought I'd save time" Yetto
--
In theory, theory and practice are the same.
In practice they are not.
That's probably default behaviour by avast! -- it inserts itself and
listens into all kinds of ports and intercepts outgoing as well as
incoming *unless you install in expert mode and tell it not to*.
Probably not half bad as a default idea because it's going to
potentially stop some lusers from inadvertantly sending out trojans etc,
be it through dumb actions or be it through their highjacked zombie-
ware.
I wonder if it specifically grabs Thunderbird/Outlook output or if it
would grab other newsreader's text output as well ... I assume not but I
can't be bothered to test this by reconfiguring my install of avast!.
Can't really see why it would watch outgoing on port 119.
-P.
Did you notice that Dave chose to have replies to hgis post redirected?
Even if Dave is not n.s.r.'s Her Erroneous -- he's sure acting like his
copy cat.
--
Email address is a Spam trap.
> If it smells like a troll and it stomps around like a troll and
> it bellows like a troll, it must be...
>
> Error: wrong target
>
> Mike "just thought I'd save time" Yetto
<G> won't be long now, before one of them posting from the same TZ will
be compelled to paraphrase your post, Mike.
--
dee
> I wonder if it specifically grabs Thunderbird/Outlook output or if it
> would grab other newsreader's text output as well ... I assume not but I
> can't be bothered to test this by reconfiguring my install of avast!.
> Can't really see why it would watch outgoing on port 119.
I just saw the following on rec.sport.tennis today:
<snip>
From: Robot Poet <robo...@gmail.invalid>
Newsgroups: rec.sport.tennis
Subject: Re: Henin gets AO wildcard
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 2009 18:41:53 -0400
Message-ID: <MPG.253ecc3f3...@news.eternal-september.org>
X-Antivirus-Status: Clean
X-Newsreader: MicroPlanet Gravity v2.60
X-Auth-Sender: U2FsdGVkX1+g//huhArXvidYBVTfWw0MXPWM6SakBrwp0Jto7Axmvw==
X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 091013-0, 10/13/2009), Outbound message
</snip>
--
Ted S.
fedya at hughes dot net
Now blogging at http://justacineast.blogspot.com
Thats funny. Or I should say: Good spotting! Robot Poet
"robo...@gmail.invalid" has a posting history of less than a week and
is already warming up to be as similar a poster as HSF and Searles who
also post from the same TZ, near to the same time of the day and update
their anti-vir all at the same time.
Needless to say, its IMHO:
Hieronymus S. Freely <hsfr...@xavier.uwsc.edu>
A.K.A.
Dave Searles <sea...@hoombah.nurt.bt.uk>
A.K.A.
Seamus MacRae <smacr...@live.ca.invalid>
A.K.A.
Robot Poet <robo...@gmail.invalid>
--
dee
> Mike Dee wrote:
>> [insults and other off-topic blather]
>
> Error: wrong target.
Wrong, Feeble: Right target.
Say Feeble. Its dangerous to let your socks roam loose in the same
thread/NG don't y'know.
Hieronymus S. Freely <hsfr...@xavier.uwsc.edu>
A.K.A.
Dave Searles <sea...@hoombah.nurt.bt.uk>
A.K.A.
Seamus MacRae <smacr...@live.ca.invalid>
A.K.A.
Robot Poet <robo...@gmail.invalid>
Any more you want to tell us about, Feeble?
--
dee
Thunderbird has millions of users. Avast! has millions of users. This
time zone has millions of inhabitants. And both software products
auto-update.
This is nothing more than coincidence, and if you don't realize that,
you are in need of psychiatric help.
> [someone else cops to using avast]
See?
Thunderbird has millions of users. Avast! has millions of users. This
time zone has millions of inhabitants. And both software products
auto-update.
This is nothing more than coincidence, and if you don't realize that,
you are in need of psychiatric help.
>> I wonder if it specifically grabs Thunderbird/Outlook output or if it
>> would grab other newsreader's text output as well ... I assume not but I
>> can't be bothered to test this by reconfiguring my install of avast!.
>> Can't really see why it would watch outgoing on port 119.
Told you other people use Avast.
> Did you notice that Dave chose to have replies to hgis post redirected?
Yes; I believe that off-topic discussion and, especially, flamage,
should be redirected to a more appropriate newsgroup.
Then you would be wrong.
Someone needs to smack you with yet another reminder that avast
automatically updates itself, so every single user will have it updated
to the same timestamped update version.
Indeed it isn't. I google my name now and again in case some fucker
decides to try badmouthing me behind my back. Well, some fucker did, and
it didn't take me long to discover that fact and start fighting back.
Don't even bother trying such a stupid stunt next time. You like me, you
say so. You don't like me, you keep your trap shut about me. Capisce?
> Hieronymus S. Freely <hsfr...@xavier.uwsc.edu>
> A.K.A.
> Dave Searles <sea...@hoombah.nurt.bt.uk>
> A.K.A.
> Seamus MacRae <smacr...@live.ca.invalid>
Wrong.
Indeed. I Google my name from time to time to see if anyone's trying to
talk about me behind my back.
Trying to do so is therefore futile. Don't bother wasting your time with
another attempt in another newsgroup.
>> Hieronymus S. Freely <hsfr...@xavier.uwsc.edu>
>> A.K.A.
>> Dave Searles <sea...@hoombah.nurt.bt.uk>
>> A.K.A.
>> Seamus MacRae <smacr...@live.ca.invalid>
Wrong.
> [personal attack deleted]
Wrong.
Wrong.
Wrong.
Wrong.
Wrong.
I run avast!, and Dialog, but don't think it leaves anything in my headers.
=)
--
Eggs
-Transported to a surreal landscape, a young girl kills the first woman she
meets and then teams up with three complete strangers to kill again. -
Marin County newspaper's TV listing for The Wizard of Oz
> Mike Dee wrote:
>> Needless to say, its IMHO:
>>
>> Hieronymus S. Freely <hsfr...@xavier.uwsc.edu>
>> A.K.A.
>> Dave Searles <sea...@hoombah.nurt.bt.uk>
>> A.K.A.
>> Seamus MacRae <smacr...@live.ca.invalid>
>> A.K.A.
>> Robot Poet <robo...@gmail.invalid>
>
> Then you would be wrong.
>
> Someone needs to smack you with yet another reminder that avast
> automatically updates itself, so every single user will have it
> updated to the same timestamped update version.
Purr-leaze, Seamus, erm Hiero, erm Robo, erm... "Dave" - Or whoever
it is you are calling yourself this week...
You're making yourself out to be a bigger idiot than anyone can
give you credit for - and that is *not* an insult, that is a FACT.
Anyone with a decent newsclient (I have, its called Xnews) and a
good ISP (one that has good retention AND allows XPAT searches) can
see that in the past several months, there has been only *one*
person posting in here with *your* TZ and *your* Avast auto updates.
That one person is *you* - no matter what handle you give yourself.
It has been you and *only* you, my dear creature of habit.
That wasn't an an insult, either, that was just another FACT. If I
had wanted to insult you, I would've called you a 'tard - but that
would be insulting 'tards.
Now that *was* an insult, "Hieronymus S. Freely"
A.K.A.
Dave Searles <sea...@hoombah.nurt.bt.uk>
A.K.A.
Seamus MacRae <smacr...@live.ca.invalid>
A.K.A.
Robot Poet <robo...@gmail.invalid>
HAND
--
dee
> I run avast!, and Dialog, but don't think it leaves anything in my
> headers. =)
They don't... but then, you're not a dork.
--
dee
> Thunderbird has millions of users. Avast! has millions of users.
> This time zone has millions of inhabitants. And both software
> products auto-update.
>
> This is nothing more than coincidence, and if you don't realize
> that, you are in need of psychiatric help.
>
>> [someone else cops to using avast]
>
> See?
The obvious followup-to you attempted? Yes. However...
Only *one* of them posts in here with those headers. That's you, kid
genius.
Hieronymus S. Freely <hsfr...@xavier.uwsc.edu>
A.K.A.
Dave Searles <sea...@hoombah.nurt.bt.uk>
A.K.A.
Seamus MacRae <smacr...@live.ca.invalid>
A.K.A.
Robot Poet <robo...@gmail.invalid>
--
dee
> Don't even bother trying such a stupid stunt next time. You like me,
> you say so. You don't like me, you keep your trap shut about me.
Ooooh. I love you, Dave Freely.
> Capisce?
No. This is Usenet.
--
-bts
-Friends don't let friends drive Windows
Don't read too much into that. avast! is a very common free anti-virus
program. It updates automatically, so the dates/versions *should* be the
same. Scanning outbound and scanning News postings are defaults, so if
anything, it confirm the cluelessness of its users! :-)
OTOH, I agree that the combination Thunderbird/avast! is somewhat of a
clue.
> Beauregard T. Shagnasty <a.non...@example.invalid> wrote:
[...]
>> What is even more unique is they both use the same:
>>
>> > X-Antivirus-Status: Clean
>> > X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 091012-0, 12/10/2009), Outbound
>> > message
[...]
> Don't read too much into that. avast! is a very common free
> anti-virus
> program. It updates automatically, so the dates/versions *should*
> be the same. Scanning outbound and scanning News postings are
> defaults, so if anything, it confirm the cluelessness of its
> users! :-)
>
> OTOH, I agree that the combination Thunderbird/avast! is
> somewhat of a
> clue.
And the combination of T'bird/Avast AND the TZ is even *more* of a
clue.
--
dee
You pegged it. However, we now have proof it's two posters.
Dave uses [personal attack...] and HSF uses [insult]. Dave uses
"Wrong" and HSF uses [Error: wrong target]. Such gross
differences in style are definitely significant.
Mike "smiley removed for humo(u)r impaired" Yetto
You are not using an e-mail client posing as a newsreader.
Mike "just saying" Yetto
But, you're expressing yourself using a very similar style of obsessive
compulsive defensiveness with chronic reply syndrome. Take a deep
breath and hold it for 15 seconds for each reply you make in a day.
Unlike most people, you'll turn blue and pass out.
Time for "David Searles" to respond with 'Wrong'. <GD&R>
--
XS11E, Killing all posts from Google Groups
The Usenet Improvement Project:
http://twovoyagers.com/improve-usenet.org/
Interesting scientific experiment in progress now, can "David Searles",
"Seamus McRae", "Hieronymus S. Freely", et al. co-exist in the same
bozo bin or will critical mass be reached and my entire computer
explode or will the group merge back into one very sick, twisted in-
duh-vidual?
We shall see.....
> Mike Dee <mik...@emteedee.invalid> wrote:
>
>> Eggs Zachtly <r...@d.thereplyto.header> wrote:
>>
>>> I run avast!, and Dialog, but don't think it leaves anything in my
>>> headers. =)
>>
>> They don't... but then, you're not a dork.
>
> Time for "David Searles" to respond with 'Wrong'. <GD&R>
=P
--
Eggs
Do you need a silencer if you are going to shoot a mime?
Nope. But, the statement I replied to was if it would "grab other
newsreader's text output", and added my $.02 abootit. =)
> Mike "just saying" Yetto
Eggs "just saying two" Zachtly
> Interesting scientific experiment in progress now, can "David Searles",
> "Seamus McRae", "Hieronymus S. Freely", et al. co-exist in the same
> bozo bin or will critical mass be reached and my entire computer
> explode or will the group merge back into one very sick, twisted in-
> duh-vidual?
>
> We shall see.....
I predict your computer will thank you :-)
--
Email address is a Spam trap.
Error: wrong target.
Error: factually incorrect.
Error: check yourself into a psychiatric hospital to continue.
Error: wrong target.
Error: wrong target.
Error: wrong target.
Error: wrong target.
> [common sense and anti-paranoia]
>>> [common sense and anti-paranoia]
> [common sense and anti-paranoia]
>> [paranoia]
> [common sense and anti-paranoia]
Error: paranoia.
Error: paranoid ideation.
Error: wrong target.
Error: wrong target.
Error: wrong target.
Error: wrong target.
Error: wrong target.
Error: paranoia.
Error: wrong target.
Error: wrong target.
Error: wrong target.
Error: wrong target.
Error: wrong newsgroup.
Error: delete your .newsrc to continue.
Error: paranoia.
Error: paranoia.
Error: at least one wrong target.
>> Anyone with a decent newsclient (I have, its called Xnews) and a
>> good ISP (one that has good retention AND allows XPAT searches) can
>> see that in the past several months, there has been only *one*
>> person posting in here with *your* TZ and *your* Avast auto updates.
No, there have been at least two, me and Dave.
Error: wrong target.
Error: wrong target.
Error: wrong target.
Error: wrong target.
> [common sense and anti-paranoia]
Error: wrong target.
>> [common sense and anti-paranoia]
At least someone here besides me is capable of rational thought.
If you're going to switch your response-bot to DanC mode you'll
need to do better than that.
Mike "c'mon, you can do it" Yetto
--
In theory, theory and practice are the same.
In practice they are not.
Wrong.
Thunderbird has millions of users, and so does Avast.
Wrong.
Wrong.
> Time for "David Searles" to respond with 'Wrong'.
Yup.
Wrong.
A clue to what? That both pieces of software are popular? Big deal.
Wrong.
> However, we now have proof it's two posters. [rest deleted]
Now someone's showing some slight glimmerings of intelligence.
By the way, who are you people? I assume you're connected with (or
sockpuppets of) someone I've had a fight with in another newsgroup who
wanted to badmouth me somewhere where he/she/they thought I wouldn't
quickly show up to rebut their nonsense, but where Google would
dutifully archive it.
Maybe Raffael Cavalero the copyright nut? Or the Kent
Willis/womanGoddess/freedom unholy trinity? Or that fuckhead dynamic
duo, Arne Vajhoj and Lars Enderin?
No.
Wrong.
My name is Dave Searles, and I have no interest whatsoever in a
freakazoid like you.
>> Capisce?
>
> No.
You admit that you do not comprehend my message? I guess it's not
surprising though. I didn't use any really big words, but then, your IQ
is really really small, so ...