xnews - hold my hand
Holly
Lets say I am trying to find a movie, lets say its final destination, or Saw
V.
Lets say its in a newsgroup that has like 5,000,000 headers going back to
last janurary.
I know its name, I even know the date it was posted and who it was posted by.
So what is the best way to get that 1 movie without having to go through
1,000,000's of headers ?
Jon Solberg
Search for it in your news reader of choice?
Most decent readers should have support for nzb files which makes it
easy to download part of files (generally yenc encoded) in separate
USENET articles and compile them to the original binary.
Refer to your news reader's documentation on how to do that. If it
doesn't have support for yenc and nzb, I suggest you switch to a
better reader (Pan, for example, but there's many others).
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JimH
news:Xns9CC1521AAC4...@74.209.136.94:
Even though XNews is my newsreader of choice, when I'm looking to do what
you're describing, here's what I do:
1) I visit www.binsearch.info
2) I use "Advanced search"
3) I type the name in the "Query" line
4) Set the Results per page to 250
5) I type in the name of the newsgroup, if I know it
6) Set "Maximum age of post" to 365 days
7) I put a checkmark next to "only show collections (hide individual files)"
8) I often fill in the section "Size must be between"
I then click "Search"
If anything is returned from this search that I want, I put a checkmark next
to it.
Then click "Create NZB"
I then let Grabit use the NZB to do the actual downloading. :)
MartinS
One way to do it in Xnews if you know the posting date is Open Special
(Ctrl+Enter). Download one header at a time from here and there and narrow
down the date range by trial and error. Once you find the right date, it
shouldn't be hard to find the posts you want.
You can Set Filters by Subject, From, and Days since posted, but Xnews
still has to scan all the headers, and that takes time.
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SINNER
CTL + F2 = XPAT search. Server must supprot it I believe.
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Mike Dee
> Ok I need some1 to hold my hand here.
Why not work it out for yourself?
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JimH
> Ok I need some1 to hold my hand here.
If you DO have Newsguy, use their search engine. It can be found at:
http://dsn.newsguy.com/news-bin/articlesrch
When you mouse over the files in the search result (with Firefox anyway),
the status line of the browser will show a URL. The very last part of that
URL is its message number. Just edit XNews' "read" column and put "1-"
before that number. To be safe, lower the reported number. Example:
I'm going to search for Final Destination.(I found quite a few in
alt.binaries.boneless, but you need the 64 bit version of Xnews to even
access that newsgroup. The message numbers are too high for the 32 bit
version - that's the main reason I started using Grabit and NZB's).
When I locate the one I want, I look for the earliest of them and hover the
mouse over it. In the browser status line it gives the following URL:
http://drn.newsguy.com/news-bin/wwwnews?alt.binaries.misc/373415201
The "alt.binaries.misc" is the newsgroup, and "373415201" is the message
number.
Go to XNews' list of newsgroups, find the row for "alt.binaries.misc" and
right click in the "read" column.
Type in:
1-373415200
That will mark all messages earlier than the one you're interested in as
read.
Then, just enter the newsgroup as normal. The very first post it pulls up
will be the one you want.
I always give a little "wiggle room" when doing this though. So what I
would enter in the "read" column would probably be:
1-373410000
Five thousands headers don't take much time, and it makes sure that you get
all parts of the file.
JimH
87.106.137.111:
Newsguy just did an upgrade that might not be reflected anywhere yet (it's
been less than 2 weeks). They now have a 300 day retention.
I have seen occasion where there's a significant difference between the
number of available messages when doing it with XNews and when using an
NZB. NZB's >will< allow you to go back 300 days, Xnews sometimes won't.
frank
Hold your hand? I'm gonna need you to put out a little more than that.
I think somewhere between second and third base would be about right.
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Holly
@news.eternal-september.org:
Well, my newsreader of choice is xnews, thats why I put "xnews" as the 1st
word of the subject.
Holly
news:Xns9CC1814F368...@74.209.136.88:
So you can't do that with xnews ?
Holly
darn
Holly
news:Xns9CC29A859FD...@74.209.136.93:
That sounds compliacted but maybe I shall give it a try, thanks
JimH
While XNews can create an NZB, it's incapable of using them.
JimH
> JimH <n...@nunya.biz> wrote in
>>
>> I'm going to search for Final Destination.(I found quite a few in
>> alt.binaries.boneless, but you need the 64 bit version of Xnews to even
>> access that newsgroup. The message numbers are too high for the 32 bit
>> version - that's the main reason I started using Grabit and NZB's).
>>
>> When I locate the one I want, I look for the earliest of them and hover
>> the mouse over it. In the browser status line it gives the following
>> URL:
>>
>> http://drn.newsguy.com/news-bin/wwwnews?alt.binaries.misc/373415201
>>
>> The "alt.binaries.misc" is the newsgroup, and "373415201" is the message
>> number.
>>
>> Go to XNews' list of newsgroups, find the row for "alt.binaries.misc"
>> and right click in the "read" column.
>>
>> Type in:
>>
>> 1-373415200
>>
>> That will mark all messages earlier than the one you're interested in as
>> read.
>>
>> Then, just enter the newsgroup as normal. The very first post it pulls
>> up will be the one you want.
>>
>> I always give a little "wiggle room" when doing this though. So what I
>> would enter in the "read" column would probably be:
>>
>> 1-373410000
>>
>> Five thousands headers don't take much time, and it makes sure that you
>> get all parts of the file.
>
> That sounds compliacted but maybe I shall give it a try, thanks
>
>
It is complicated... which is why I rarely do it.
XS11E
> It is complicated... which is why I rarely do it.
It doesn't seem complicated to me? I frequently do it. I've never felt
the need of using NZB files with Xnews.
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Holly
127.0.0.1:
> JimH <n...@nunya.biz> wrote:
>
>> It is complicated... which is why I rarely do it.
>
> It doesn't seem complicated to me? I frequently do it. I've never felt
> the need of using NZB files with Xnews.
what is a nzb file ?
Jon Solberg
Something you'll easily get the answer to if you do a Google search.
JimH
127.0.0.1:
> JimH <n...@nunya.biz> wrote:
>
>> It is complicated... which is why I rarely do it.
>
> It doesn't seem complicated to me? I frequently do it. I've never felt
> the need of using NZB files with Xnews.
>
>
>
>
>
Me neither - I use NZB files with Grabit. :)
XS11E
XS11E
> XS11E wrote:
>
>> Funny! OK, reworded: I've never felt the need of using NZB files.
>
> Then you don't use binaries very well.
I use binaries very well indeed.
Holly
> On 2009-11-15, Holly <c...@t69.net> wrote:
>> XS11E <xs1...@SPAMyahoo.com> wrote in news:Xns9CC35A7F05301xs11eyahoocom@
>> 127.0.0.1:
>>
>>> JimH <n...@nunya.biz> wrote:
>>>
>>>> It is complicated... which is why I rarely do it.
>>>
>>> It doesn't seem complicated to me? I frequently do it. I've never felt
>>> the need of using NZB files with Xnews.
>>
>> what is a nzb file ?
>
> Something you'll easily get the answer to if you do a Google search.
>
What is a google search ?
Jon Solberg
Something you're apparently to ignorant to know anything about. Sorry,
I expected you were a, at least, partially educated being. My wrong.
I do apologise.
Holly
Lighten up Jon, are you always so happy go lucky like this sheesh
Jon Solberg
Who says I'm not happy?
Harold Stevens
[Snip...]
> Who says I'm not happy?
Apparently someone bright enough to get to a cyber backwater like Usenet
yet avoid a ubiquitous worldwide phenom like Google. Go figure...
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Jon Solberg
> In <slrnhg2gv...@jonsolberg.se> Jon Solberg:
>
> [Snip...]
>
>> Who says I'm not happy?
>
> Apparently someone bright enough to get to a cyber backwater like
> Usenet yet avoid a ubiquitous worldwide phenom like Google. Go
> figure...
Apparently so. For some reason, that still makes me surprised. Go
figure, indeed.
MartinS
>>>> JimH <n...@nunya.biz> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> It is complicated... which is why I rarely do it.
>>>>
>>>> It doesn't seem complicated to me? I frequently do it. I've never
>>>> felt the need of using NZB files with Xnews.
>>>
>>> what is a nzb file ?
>>
>> Something you'll easily get the answer to if you do a Google search.
>
> What is a google search ?
Troll-o-meter
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Holly
You seem like an old grouch getting worked up to play the lead roll in a
Grinch play like oh, your so ignorant and uneducated when it should have
been obvious to anyone with a sense of humor that I was messing around when
I asked "what is a google search" but you didn't find it funny, you took it
serious and got all offended, so that is it, I say you are not happy and
you are going to have a stroke if you keep up that bad attitude.
You could have easily avoided all of that by simply answering the first
question but nooooo, thats too much for Jon the Grinch, who has a great
answer for everything "use google!" ,, Wel lguess what, if no one answered
anyones questions then google wouldn't be any good either, unless you find
pages & pages of "use google!" useful.
mechanic
>
> Well, my newsreader of choice is xnews, thats why I put "xnews" as the 1st
> word of the subject.
LOL! Good to see the newsgroup is still packed with Usenet's brightest!
Jon Solberg
>>> this sheesh
>>
>> Who says I'm not happy?
>
> You seem like an old grouch getting worked up to play the lead roll
> in a Grinch play like oh, your so ignorant and uneducated when it
*Yawn*
You don't come out much do you?
*Plonk*
Gene E. Bloch
s/troll/joke/
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Holly
news:4b01bc59$1...@news.x-privat.org:
Include yourself, as you should have addressed that comment to whoever it was
dumb enough to ask.
Holly
> On 2009-11-16, Holly <c...@t69.net> wrote:
>>>> [...] >>> Lighten up Jon, are you always so happy go lucky like
>>>> this sheesh
>>>
>>> Who says I'm not happy?
>>
>> You seem like an old grouch getting worked up to play the lead roll
>> in a Grinch play like oh, your so ignorant and uneducated when it
>> should have been obvious to anyone with a sense of humor [...]
>
> *Yawn*
>
> You don't come out much do you?
>
> *Plonk*
Oh dear, mean old Scrooge is ignoring me now, whatever shall I do ?