xnews proxy config??
Your name
Windows vista 64 latest version of xnews.
How do I use tor/ vidalia or any proxy with xnews.
We all should be concerned with our usenet / internet anoymity and privacy.
There's bad guys out there that want to do us some type of harm.
unfortunately.
So, If some kind person could assist.
a short step by step howto.
proxy where to get
install proxy string into xnews, so any up loads or downloads would look to
be originating and ending at the proxy.
If I enable tor (the automatic install via firefox), firefox generates an
error, not configured right. but that is separate issue.
Right now just concerned with setting up Xnews to use a proxy.
Thanks!
Mike Easter
> We all should be concerned with our usenet / internet anoymity and
> privacy. There's bad guys out there that want to do us some type of
> harm. unfortunately.
What kind of privacy do you want? You want privacy from people being
able to see your connectivity IP which is posted with the NPH by some
newsservers? The newsserver you have chosen does not stamp an NPH.
Do you want some other kind of privacy so that the account that you use
to sign up with your pay newsserver at newscene will not be traceable?
Why do you want that kind of privacy? Are you planning on doing
something illegal? Do you suspect that your newsprovider is somehow
interested in tracking you down? What kind of privacy are we talking
about here?
Do you need privacy that puts a barrier between your meatspace persona
and what LE lawenforcement can subpoena?
> I need instruction and example to assist me.
> Windows vista 64 latest version of xnews.
> How do I use tor/ vidalia or any proxy with xnews.
So, you want to obscure your connectivity IP from the logs of your news
server? Or do you think that you connectivity provider is going to be
watching/monitoring your transmissions between you and your
connectivity?
> So, If some kind person could assist.
> a short step by step howto.
> proxy where to get
> install proxy string into xnews, so any up loads or downloads would
> look to be originating and ending at the proxy.
Sometimes I think that the people who are trying to achieve some kind of
privacy or another aren't really understanding what they are trying to
do or why they are trying to do it.
> If I enable tor (the automatic install via firefox), firefox generates
> an error, not configured right. but that is separate issue.
> Right now just concerned with setting up Xnews to use a proxy.
The business about what kind of trail the browser creates while visiting
websites is another different subject from the connectivity provider to
the news server business.
--
Mike Easter
Whiskers
What benefit do you think a 'proxy' could give you on usenet?
Configure your newsreader to use an FQDN in the Message-ID that doesn't
reveal an IP number or URL of your own internet connection, and use a
news-server that doesn't reveal your IP number in the headers, and who but
the news-server admin will have any idea where you are posting from? You
may as well trust a news-server admin as a proxy server admin.
If you're worried about anyone intercepting the traffic between your
computer and news-server, look for a news-server that supports SSL.
--
-- ^^^^^^^^^^
-- Whiskers
-- ~~~~~~~~~~
XS11E
> I need instruction and example to assist me.
> Windows vista 64 latest version of xnews.
Well, not really. You're using an old version of Xnews, the current
version is 2009305.01
http://twovoyagers.com/blinkynet.net/comp/xnewsrels.html
--
XS11E, Killing all posts from Google Groups
The Usenet Improvement Project:
http://twovoyagers.com/improve-usenet.org/
My name
acroynyms.
I did some reading.
I use firefox, I found how to set a proxy in it I used the numeric
address of a proxy to try. The port setting is 3128.
I found the port setting in xnews.
Mine had a default setting of 0, I changed it to 3128, and it will not
connect to my uncensored news server. So I changed it to 119
now it connects.
I would like to upload, download and read usenet anonymously.
Now that firefox is proxied, does that mean xnews will connect via that
proxy, even though the port numbers are different.
Or am I missing something in xnews.
I'm leaarning here!
thanks!
"Mike Easter" <Mi...@ster.invalid> wrote in news:7mm67fF3iqvrdU1
@mid.individual.net:
My name
I forgot somethings.
No I do not want to upload or download anything illegal.
I know my server supposedly does not monitor, but there are cases
where unknown monitoring happened and people had a bad situation
Identity theft, lea, harrassment etc.
I like to know how things work, information is powerful, i hate being
ignorant of many things. So I try to learn . Then if I can later on pass
on what I have learned, I have repaid my debt to whomever instructed me.
Like I went to college for Diesels, but my boss hired a mechanic with
years experience to teach me hands on. I later have been able to help
people in person and via the 'net diagnose a problem they were having.
old adage, what goes around comes around!
"Mike Easter" <Mi...@ster.invalid> wrote in news:7mm67fF3iqvrdU1
@mid.individual.net:
> Your name wrote:
My name
news:slrnhgbop8.g...@ID-107770.user.individual.net:
> On 2009-11-19, Your name <Your...@email.com> wrote:
>> I need instruction and example to assist me.
>> Windows vista 64 latest version of xnews.
>> How do I use tor/ vidalia or any proxy with xnews.
>> We all should be concerned with our usenet / internet anoymity and
>> privacy. There's bad guys out there that want to do us some type of
>> harm. unfortunately.
>>
>> So, If some kind person could assist.
>> a short step by step howto.
>> proxy where to get
>> install proxy string into xnews, so any up loads or downloads would
>> look to be originating and ending at the proxy.
>>
>> If I enable tor (the automatic install via firefox), firefox
>> generates an error, not configured right. but that is separate issue.
>> Right now just concerned with setting up Xnews to use a proxy.
>>
>> Thanks!
What is FQDN? Basically how would I do this in xnews?
Mike replied with name of my news server, How would I check
if they are posting my ip address or not.
I really would like to learn the basics and understand
better
I know how to check my ip at checking sites from a browser
I.E, or firefox. How do you do the same in a news reader?
Again people thankyou for your guidance!
My name
127.0.0.1:
> Your name <Your...@email.com> wrote:
>
>> I need instruction and example to assist me.
>> Windows vista 64 latest version of xnews.
>
> Well, not really. You're using an old version of Xnews, the current
> version is 2009305.01
>
> http://twovoyagers.com/blinkynet.net/comp/xnewsrels.html
>
>
I downloaded the newest version and extracted it a month ago. I might have
to first delete the old files and then run new version, even though the
directions indicated I did not have to. Will recheck it.
Thankyou for letting me know old version was still running.
My name
127.0.0.1:
> Your name <Your...@email.com> wrote:
>
>> I need instruction and example to assist me.
>> Windows vista 64 latest version of xnews.
>
> Well, not really. You're using an old version of Xnews, the current
> version is 2009305.01
>
> http://twovoyagers.com/blinkynet.net/comp/xnewsrels.html
>
>
I was right, I did download it. I just forgot to delete the old application
executable. so when I was clicking my shortcut I was using the old version
»Q«
My name <whos...@email.com> wrote:
> I forgot somethings.
> No I do not want to upload or download anything illegal.
> I know my server supposedly does not monitor, but there are cases
> where unknown monitoring happened and people had a bad situation
> Identity theft,
Guarding against identity theft doesn't require using a anonymous proxy
to connect to Usenet. Just don't post things like your banking numbers
on Usenet.
> lea,
You don't want to upload or download anything illegal, so LEA won't
find your activities interesting at all. Unless, perhaps, trying to
use an anonymous proxy draws their attention; then if they have enough
cause, they'll find out what you're up to whether you use a proxy or
not.
> harrassment etc.
Harrassment, as in people wanting to track you down in the real world
and bother you? You must be planning on pissing some people off pretty
badly once you think you've got anonymity.
It's silly, unless you really are doing something illegal, but if you
truly want to do things anonymously on Usenet, stop posting to Usenet
and start learning about how TCP/IP works in general. There are
plenty of better resources (web sites, books, college courses) than
asking one question at a time on Usenet.
As it is now, if somebody gave you perfect, step-by-step instructions
about how to be completely anonymous, you would have no idea whether
they were right or not. Until you really understand networking, you
won't be able to assess how good or bad any advice is. Remember, the
CIA may be trying to give you bad advice right now, and they're
probably good at it. ;)
My name
news:20091122214...@bellgrove.remarqs.net:
> Path:
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ind
> ividual.net!not-for-mail From: =?UTF-8?B?wrtRwqs=?= <box...@gmx.net>
> Newsgroups: news.software.readers
> Subject: Re: xnews proxy config??
> Date: Sun, 22 Nov 2009 21:40:27 -0600
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> References: <Xns9CC89F32136...@216.40.28.76>
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> <Xns9CCBC35DAF...@216.40.28.70>
> Mime-Version: 1.0
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
> X-Trace: individual.net
> sHg9ZQvgOkPt3d1CpNnnqQdK6XFHJkGHCjiACn4ailgc1E0bKR X-Orig-Path:
> bellgrove.remarqs.net!not-for-mail Cancel-Lock:
> sha1:gepW5qdeoy4pQbWKoM7FmkwQf1E= X-Newsreader: Claws Mail 3.7.2 (GTK+
> 2.16.6; i686-pc-linux-gnu) Xref: newscene.com
> news.software.readers:277058
> Thanks for your input.
No I don't plan on pissing anybody off.
As I said I'm learning as I hear(read) other posts about it. And yes I
have been scanning websites and diffeent software. But those authors
usually write in a way to "sell" their product over another, even if it
is free. And they don't fill in the blanks many times.
Information and knowing how to do something is always a good thing.
Dad always said, don't ask someone or pay someone to do something, you
can learn to do yourself.
I have not had to pay for a plumber in 20 years, I learned how
I learned how to assemble a computer from parts, install the operating
system etc. But still a lot to learn.
I learned automotive and diesel repairs, Not only do I fix my own, I
help neighbors and friends. Many times we barter back and forth.
Learned how to do electrical repairs. Now I can do my own sockets,
switches, circuit breakers.
More I know how to do myself, the more independent I become.
Spent a whole winter reading on solar heat collectors to help heat
house.
Because I learned basic carpentry, I was able to build a add-on to side
of house, install the glass for the collector assembly, and built the
collector.
Only cost was for some wood, screws and nails, caulking. Got the glass
free, by asking the right people.
The solar assembly would of been $5000 or so contracted. MY cost about
$300 in material.
So maybe that helps you see my point in learning about proxies,
anonymity and how things work in general.
again thanks everybody for your input.
Whiskers
> Whiskers <catwh...@operamail.com> wrote in
> news:slrnhgbop8.g...@ID-107770.user.individual.net:
>> On 2009-11-19, Your name <Your...@email.com> wrote:
[...]
>> What benefit do you think a 'proxy' could give you on usenet?
>>
>> Configure your newsreader to use an FQDN in the Message-ID that
>> doesn't reveal an IP number or URL of your own internet connection,
>> and use a news-server that doesn't reveal your IP number in the
>> headers, and who but the news-server admin will have any idea where
>> you are posting from? You may as well trust a news-server admin as a
>> proxy server admin.
>>
>> If you're worried about anyone intercepting the traffic between your
>> computer and news-server, look for a news-server that supports SSL.
>
> What is FQDN?
"Fully Qualified Domain Name". To the right of the @ in Message-IDs. At
present, your Message-IDs have an IP number in that position. I think
that number is the news-server you are posting to, in which case it
doesn't reveal anything about you personally - but you should check
that for yourself.
> Basically how would I do this in xnews?
I'm pretty sure it's explained in the manual.
> Mike replied with name of my news server, How would I check
> if they are posting my ip address or not.
Look at the headers of your own articles. XNews can display all the
headers easily; I haven't used it for years but I seem to remember that
hitting the h key does it, and there's probably a way to find it using a
mouse and the menu-bar at the top of the XNews window.
> I really would like to learn the basics and understand
> better
Newcomers to newsgroups should start here
<http://computer.howstuffworks.com/newsgroup.htm>
and here
<http://www.anta.net/misc/nnq/>, the Official Home Page of the
newsgroup called news.newusers.questions.
> I know how to check my ip at checking sites from a browser
> I.E, or firefox. How do you do the same in a news reader?
Look at the headers. When a news-server inserts the IP number from which
an article was posted, it appears in a header called 'NNTP-Posting-Host';
it used to be normal to include that header, but at present many
news-servers don't, and some 'encrypt' the information to hide it from
other users.
If you use a web page to discover your IP number, that is the same as the
IP number that would appear in the NNTP-Posting-Host header of any
articles you post to newsgroups using that internet session (if the
news-server inserts such a header).
> Again people thankyou for your guidance!
Do you see how people are arranging their replies to you by 'interleaving'
their comments into your questions so that they read like a conversation?
That's usually the best way to do it, as it makes it clear who is saying
what in response to what. XNews can do that easily.
»Q«
My name <whos...@email.com> wrote:
> > It's silly, unless you really are doing something illegal, but if
> > you truly want to do things anonymously on Usenet, stop posting to
> > Usenet and start learning about how TCP/IP works in general. There
> > are plenty of better resources (web sites, books, college courses)
> > than asking one question at a time on Usenet.
> And yes I have been scanning websites and diffeent software. But
> those authors usually write in a way to "sell" their product over
> another, even if it is free. And they don't fill in the blanks many
> times.
It's extremely easy to avoid ad stuff when reading about networking,
and most sources don't leave blanks unfilled.
I expect you're talking about scanning "websites and software" having
to do with anonymity, whereas my advice was to learn about networking.
[snip stuff about carpentry and plumbing]
> So maybe that helps you see my point in learning about proxies,
> anonymity and how things work in general.
Not even a little bit. And I think you've missed my point entirely.
Oh, well. Good luck with whatever secret but not illegal activities
you're interested in.
XS11E
Hmmm, you shouldn't have to delete the old version, you should be able
to drop the new xnews.exe file right into your Xnews directory and it
should overwrite the old version? Maybe you kept the old version
rather than overwrite it? Anyway, glad it's all OK now.
NOTE: You don't need to keep the old version(s), they're available
here:
http://twovoyagers.com/blinkynet.net/comp/xnewsarch/index.html
My name
news:slrnhgl3tv.8...@ID-107770.user.individual.net:
Yes I see how they are interleaving.
Thanks for the web sites to go read at and learn more
I did notice the ip address listed in one of my posts.
It is no where near the same as mine when I check mine on the web.
so it must be the one of the server these text posts of mine are
traveling to and from as someone suggested earlier.
Thanks I will continue to read what I can.
>
My name
news:Xns9CCC6EA09FA...@127.0.0.1:
> My name <whos...@email.com> wrote:
>
>> XS11E <xs1...@SPAMyahoo.com> wrote in
>> news:Xns9CC8CF35FCE53xs11eyahoocom@ 127.0.0.1:
>>
>>> Your name <Your...@email.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I need instruction and example to assist me.
>>>> Windows vista 64 latest version of xnews.
>>>
>>> Well, not really. You're using an old version of Xnews, the
>>> current version is 2009305.01
>>>
>>> http://twovoyagers.com/blinkynet.net/comp/xnewsrels.html
>>>
>>>
>> I was right, I did download it. I just forgot to delete the old
>> application executable. so when I was clicking my shortcut I was
>> using the old version
>
> Hmmm, you shouldn't have to delete the old version, you should be able
> to drop the new xnews.exe file right into your Xnews directory and it
> should overwrite the old version? Maybe you kept the old version
> rather than overwrite it? Anyway, glad it's all OK now.
>
> NOTE: You don't need to keep the old version(s), they're available
> here:
>
> http://twovoyagers.com/blinkynet.net/comp/xnewsarch/index.html
well during the download and extraction a month or so ago, something did
not go as planned.
I ended up with two different xnews application. executables in same
directory. windows automatically renamed the seconfd (2).
I did not notice it until you all mentioned I was still using the old
version.
I went back and checked and found the dupe.
So I killed my shortcut and the original (deleted) renamed the number 2
and made a new shortcut for the newest version.
All works fine.
But thanks for the info!
Eggs Zachtly
> Whiskers <catwh...@operamail.com> wrote in
> news:slrnhgl3tv.8...@ID-107770.user.individual.net:
>
[...]
>>
>> Do you see how people are arranging their replies to you by
>> 'interleaving' their comments into your questions so that they read
>> like a conversation? That's usually the best way to do it, as it
>> makes it clear who is saying what in response to what. XNews can do
>> that easily.
> Yes I see how they are interleaving.
Yet, you don't feel the need?
[rest snipped]
--
Eggs
One nice thing about egotists... they don't talk about other people.
My name
news:rdox8x60...@sneupie.eingang.org:
> My name said:
>
>> Whiskers <catwh...@operamail.com> wrote in
>> news:slrnhgl3tv.8...@ID-107770.user.individual.net:
>>
> [...]
>>>
>>> Do you see how people are arranging their replies to you by
>>> 'interleaving' their comments into your questions so that they read
>>> like a conversation? That's usually the best way to do it, as it
>>> makes it clear who is saying what in response to what. XNews can do
>>> that easily.
>> Yes I see how they are interleaving.
>
> Yet, you don't feel the need?
Confused need for what?
I was only responding to what whiskers said.
and there are times it is more clear to put your entire response at the
end.
But thanks for responding
>
> [rest snipped]
>
Mike Yetto
> Confused need for what?
Clues.
This should start you off.
http://twovoyagers.com/blinkynet.net/comp/toppost.html
http://computer.howstuffworks.com/newsgroup.htm
http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm
http://infohost.nmt.edu/tcc/help/news/idiot.html
http://members.aol.com/emailfaq/mungfaq.html
http://members.fortunecity.com/nnqweb/
http://www.caliburn.nl/topposting.html
http://www.cs.tut.fi/~jkorpela/usenet/brox.html
http://www.dickalba.demon.co.uk/usenet/guide/faq_topp.html
http://www.greenend.org.uk/rjk/2000/06/14/quoting.html#1.2
http://www.html-faq.com/etiquette/?toppost
http://www.i-hate-computers.demon.co.uk/
http://www.mailmsg.com/SPAM_munging.htm
http://www.plig.net/nnq/nnqlinks.html
http://www.star-one.org.uk/computer/format.htm
http://www.tgos.org/newbie/
http://www.usenet.org.uk/ukpost.html#s3
http://www3.telus.net/dandemar/munad.htm
Is your name really 'My name'?
Mike "or did it come with the wallet?" Yetto
--
In theory, theory and practice are the same.
In practice they are not.
Mike Yetto
> news:slrn200911231903...@may.eternal-september.org:>> My point was what he said about interleaving, That I understood what
> he meant. Then the next response was "You don't feel the need?"
> That was what I was confused about. Feel the need for what.
> Since I 've been posting here the last couple days, and more reading
> on the net, I have gained valuable info I didn't have before.
>> Clues.
>>
Two more things for you to learn are trimming excess text to
which you are not responding, and not starting your response on a
quoted blank line.
You first line in your response to me was started after the line
quote character ('>') your newsreader added to a blank line in my
post. This disturbs the proper quoting levels of the thread.
You should get more familiar with computers and the internet in
general before you try more advanced topics such as anonymized
browsing, proxys, onion routing, etc.
Mike "you won't learn it by asking multiple questions at once" Yetto
»Q«
My name <whos...@email.com> wrote:
> Mike Yetto <mye...@nycap.invalid> wrote in
> news:slrn200911231903...@may.eternal-september.org:
>
> > Bada bing My name <whos...@email.com> bada bang:
> >> Confused need for what?
> > My point was what he said about interleaving, That I understood
> > what
> he meant. Then the next response was "You don't feel the need?"
> That was what I was confused about.
Yetto didn't write any of that. You've got one of your own sentences
spread across two different quote levels. It's difficult to do that by
mistake with Xnews. To help avoid it, please get in the habit of
leaving a blank line between the text you're quoting and your new text.
»Q«
My name <whos...@email.com> wrote:
> =?UTF-8?B?wrtRwqs=?= <box...@gmx.net> wrote in
> news:20091123211...@bellgrove.remarqs.net:
> > You've got one of your own sentences spread across two different
> > quote levels. It's difficult to do that by mistake with Xnews. To
> > help avoid it, please get in the habit of leaving a blank line
> > between the text you're quoting and your new text.
>
> I was not pointing fingers at who siad what. I was just pointing out
> I understood what they said about interleaving.
> Then someone said "you don't feel the need?"
> I was unsure of what they meant by the statement.
> I entered my previous response at the end as to me it appeared that
> was the most appropriate place.
This time you did leave a blank line between the text you quoted and
your new text, so good.
Unfortunately, your text has nothing whatsoever to do with the text you
quoted. The more you give the impression that you can't understand
English, the less people will bother explaining things to you in
English.
Mike Yetto
>>
>> Yetto didn't write any of that. You've got one of your own sentences
>> spread across two different quote levels. It's difficult to do that by
>> mistake with Xnews. To help avoid it, please get in the habit of
>> leaving a blank line between the text you're quoting and your new text.
>>
>>
> I understood what they said about interleaving.
> Then someone said "you don't feel the need?"
> I was unsure of what they meant by the statement.
> I entered my previous response at the end as to me it appeared that was the
> most appropriate place.
>
You entered your text prior to the end of mine. That turned into
an indication that I wrote your first line.
You need to take more care when you post, because you are always
pointing out who said what on Usenet.
Mike "unless you don't quote at all" Yetto