[slrn] Marking desired articles, then navigating to marked articles only
Scott Bass
Using slrn under Windows 7, can I first mark headers of interest, then cycle
through the marked headers with the spacebar?
In a previous life, I used nn on Unix to read news. IIRC it had this
functionality. Now, I'm stuck with Windows. Not my choice, but I digress
:)
I just want a no-frills newsreader that allows me to cycle through large
volumes of text only newsgroups as quickly as possible, and am investigating
slrn.
Regards,
Scott
andrew
> Using slrn under Windows 7, can I first mark headers of interest, then cycle
> through the marked headers with the spacebar?
If you are interested in using slrnpull you might be interested to
read the following:
http://slrn.sourceforge.net/docs/slrnpull/README.offline
which works well enough for me under Windows 7, from where I am typing
this message :). Not quite what you are asking for, as it is actually
intended for true 'offline' reading, but perhaps well worth a look.
Incidentally I note that when I have marked a message to be downloaded
with the default m key slrnpull will not download the marked article
unless I run:
slrnull --marked-bodies
when I believe from the docs it should download it anyway without this
option being specified. Can any slrnpull experts comment if this is
the expected bahaviour or a bug?
> In a previous life, I used nn on Unix to read news. IIRC it had this
> functionality. Now, I'm stuck with Windows. Not my choice, but I digress
>:)
There is a macro that ships with slrn called nn.sl that is supposed to
make slrn act a little like the newsreader nn but I will admit that I
have never tried it and thus I will leave others to comment...
> I just want a no-frills newsreader that allows me to cycle through large
> volumes of text only newsgroups as quickly as possible, and am investigating
> slrn.
You may have already found Thomas Wiegner binaries for windows:
http://www.foory.de/thw/slrn/windows/
or even bumped across a slightly crazy page that shows how to compile
your own svn slrn under Windows 7:
http://www.andrews-corner.org/slrn-windows.html
All the best,
Andrew
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andrew
> Incidentally I note that when I have marked a message to be downloaded
> with the default m key slrnpull will not download the marked article
> unless I run:
>
> slrnull --marked-bodies
>
> when I believe from the docs it should download it anyway without this
> option being specified. Can any slrnpull experts comment if this is
> the expected bahaviour or a bug?
As usual I have spoken too quickly, looks like slrnpull _does_ in fact
automagically download the marked bodies without the --marked-bodies
option. Not sure what stupid thing I was doing there :(.
W. Citoan
Yes, you can. Use "*" to mark them, "C" to mark all others as read, "x"
to remove the read articles, and either the spacebar or "n" to then
cycle through the marked articles.
- W. Citoan
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-- Publiluis Syrus
Scott Bass
"W. Citoan" <wci...@NOSPAM-yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:slrnhjhekb....@wcitoan-via.eternal-september.org...
Thanks W, I appreciate the reply. OK, I'll follow these steps if necessary.
However, asking my question another way: is there a "navigate to next
marked message" function in slrn? I didn't see it in the documentation.
Perhaps via some user-macro? If so, I'd actually like to map the spacebar
to this function.
Then, my use of slrn would be:
mark, mark, mark, ... desired articles
space, space, space, <end of group>
catchup group (optional)
next group
Sometimes I'm in a hurry, and would like to mark a few articles, read them,
then quit the group without catching up for further reading later.
Regards,
Scott
andrew
>However, asking my question another way: is there a "navigate to next
>marked message" function in slrn? I didn't see it in the documentation.
>Perhaps via some user-macro? If so, I'd actually like to map the spacebar
>to this function.
Scott it sounds more than a little as if you are really after nn, which
I know you mentioned that you have used previously. Development of nn
has stopped as far as I am aware and the chances of running nn on windows
would be pretty much zero. IMHO the nn and slrn experience is very, very
different and although you can use slrn in the manner you describe you
are really describing and wanting to find the nn approach...
Can I ask if you have installed slrn to test if you are happy with it and
also what other newsreaders you are considering?
W. Citoan
>
> "W. Citoan" <wci...@NOSPAM-yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:slrnhjhekb....@wcitoan-via.eternal-september.org...
> > Scott Bass wrote:
> >>
> >> Using slrn under Windows 7, can I first mark headers of interest,
> >> then cycle through the marked headers with the spacebar?
> > Yes, you can. Use "*" to mark them, "C" to mark all others as read,
> > "x" to remove the read articles, and either the spacebar or "n" to
> > then cycle through the marked articles.
> However, asking my question another way: is there a "navigate to next
> marked message" function in slrn? I didn't see it in the documentation.
> Perhaps via some user-macro? If so, I'd actually like to map the spacebar
> to this function.
>
> Then, my use of slrn would be:
>
> mark, mark, mark, ... desired articles
> space, space, space, <end of group>
> catchup group (optional)
> next group
You could sort of do that using the onekey-score.sl macro (available at
the slrn website). You would use it to define a custom key to add a
score to the desired articles. The "!" key can then be used to navigate
through just the high score articles.
However, if you have other (positive) scoring, it would navigate through
those as well. But if you have scores set-up, those are probably ones
you want to read anyway.
Scott Bass
news:82bo07x...@skamandros.andrews-corner.org...
Hi Andrew,
Activities I've undertaken in this regard:
* skimmed this newsgroup (filtered on "slrn") before posting (thanks for
your article on running slrn under Windows 7)
* massive Googling (one such page:
http://www.newsreaders.com/win/clients.html)
* installed a pre-compiled version of slrn on Windows 7
* skimmed the slrn documentation, and completely read (and slighhtly
modified) the slrn.rc file
* configured slrn and subscribed to and read a couple newsgroups
Other newsreaders I've considered:
* Windows Live Mail
* XPN
* Forte Agent (although popular as a Windows newsreader, I didn't like it so
much)
I've installed all of these above
* MP Gravity (used it ages ago, haven't installed it)
I didn't know that "navigate to next marked message" was such a big deal
with slrn :(
Regards,
Scott
John E. Davis
wrote:
> I didn't know that "navigate to next marked message" was such a big deal
> with slrn :(
Try using nn.sl, which is shipped with slrn. That file contains the
following comments:
%!% Based on that idea, here is how the macros in this file work:
%!%
%!% 1. Tag headers by one of the following methods:
%!%
%!% a. Move to header and press the ' key.
%!% b. Select a header by pressing the header number associated
%!% with it.
%!% c. Select headers via author/subject regular expressions
%!%
%!% 2. After selection, read selected articles via:
%!% [ Previous selected
%!% ] Next Selected
Good luck,
--John
SINNER
To wit there is a set of macros (utils and nn) that will give this exact
functionality in slrn, IIRC,
--
David
Rockinghorse Winner
>> In a previous life, I used nn on Unix to read news. IIRC it had this
>> functionality. Now, I'm stuck with Windows. Not my choice, but I digress
>>:)
>There is a macro that ships with slrn called nn.sl that is supposed to
>make slrn act a little like the newsreader nn but I will admit that I
>have never tried it and thus I will leave others to comment...
It works pretty well, actually, but there's nothing like the real thing! :)
>> I just want a no-frills newsreader that allows me to cycle through large
>> volumes of text only newsgroups as quickly as possible, and am investigating
>> slrn.
>You may have already found Thomas Wiegner binaries for windows:
>http://www.foory.de/thw/slrn/windows/
>or even bumped across a slightly crazy page that shows how to compile
>your own svn slrn under Windows 7:
>http://www.andrews-corner.org/slrn-windows.html
>All the best,
>Andrew
>--
>Do you think that's air you're breathing?
--
Hug your sweetie today.
*R* *H*
andrew
>andrew <and...@skamandros.invalid> writes:
>>There is a macro that ships with slrn called nn.sl that is supposed to
>>make slrn act a little like the newsreader nn but I will admit that I
>>have never tried it and thus I will leave others to comment...
>It works pretty well, actually, but there's nothing like the real thing! :)
I spent some time getting nn set correctly and a fair bit of time using
it on a day to day basis but I will have to admit that it is not
completely my cup of tea :).
Scott Bass
"Rockinghorse Winner" <rwi...@8600.com> wrote in message
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> andrew <and...@skamandros.invalid> writes:
>
>
>>> In a previous life, I used nn on Unix to read news. IIRC it had this
>>> functionality. Now, I'm stuck with Windows. Not my choice, but I
>>> digress
>>>:)
>
>>There is a macro that ships with slrn called nn.sl that is supposed to
>>make slrn act a little like the newsreader nn but I will admit that I
>>have never tried it and thus I will leave others to comment...
>
> It works pretty well, actually, but there's nothing like the real thing!
> :)
Windows == :-( I've got Linux installed as well, but just can't get it to
do all I need it to do, or run all the s/w I need.
If there is a pre-compiled binary for nn under Windows then cool, point me
to it. But I couldn't find it.
andrew
>Windows == :-( I've got Linux installed as well, but just can't get it to
>do all I need it to do, or run all the s/w I need.
Hmmm... I don't suppose you have ever given VirtualBox a run?
>If there is a pre-compiled binary for nn under Windows then cool, point me
>to it. But I couldn't find it.
I have a deep suspicion that there is no such thing. Might be worth posting
in news.software.nn? Not the most lively of groups you might find :).
Scott Bass
"andrew" <and...@skamandros.invalid> wrote in message
news:49p417x...@skamandros.andrews-corner.org...
> "Scott Bass" <sas_...@SPAMMERSAREEVIL.yahoo.com.au.REMOVETHIS> writes:
>
>>Windows == :-( I've got Linux installed as well, but just can't get it to
>>do all I need it to do, or run all the s/w I need.
>
> Hmmm... I don't suppose you have ever given VirtualBox a run?
Actually I'd not heard of it. I tried Wine in Linux but it quickly fell
into the too hard / don't have time to mess with this basket. I'm quite
familiar with and have used VMware, and had heard of Virtual PC. I'll
research Virtual Box under Linux to see if I can use Linux 80-90% of the
time, and Virtual Box / Windows the rest of the time.
>>If there is a pre-compiled binary for nn under Windows then cool, point me
>>to it. But I couldn't find it.
>
> I have a deep suspicion that there is no such thing. Might be worth
> posting
> in news.software.nn? Not the most lively of groups you might find :).
If it were available I'd think Google would have turned it up, and that it
would be on the main nn site. So I assume it's only available for Unix.
I'll investigate nn-mode for slrn (thanks John); I haven't had time to
configure it yet.
(Sorry this thread is so long winded and drifting off topic...)
Frank Slootweg
> Hi Andrew, see below...
>
> "andrew" <and...@skamandros.invalid> wrote in message
> news:49p417x...@skamandros.andrews-corner.org...
> > "Scott Bass" <sas_...@SPAMMERSAREEVIL.yahoo.com.au.REMOVETHIS> writes:
[...]
> >>If there is a pre-compiled binary for nn under Windows then cool,
> >>point me to it. But I couldn't find it.
> >
> > I have a deep suspicion that there is no such thing. Might be worth
> > posting in news.software.nn? Not the most lively of groups you might
> > find :).
>
> If it were available I'd think Google would have turned it up, and
> that it would be on the main nn site. So I assume it's only available
> for Unix. I'll investigate nn-mode for slrn (thanks John); I haven't
> had time to configure it yet.
Do you have (some) experience compiling/linking/building programs, for
example on Linux?
If so, you could install Cygwin [1] and (try to) build nn 'under'
Cygwin.
As you can seen in my "User-Agent:" header, I use tin - another
newsreader of (mainly) UNIX heritage - 'under' Cygwin on (MS-)Windows
(Vista). This particular version was a ready-to-use Cygwin package, but
for earlier versions, I built tin myself under Cygwin. A good starting
point for your build-attempts can be the README.WIN file in the tin
tarball [2]. README.WIN explains how to build tin under Cygwin. Building
nn will be similar.
If you have ever used tin, you might want to try the tin Cygwin
package [3] first, to get a feel of Cygwin. Then you could build tin
yourself and finnaly nn. I.e. take it one step at a time.
I hope this helps.
> (Sorry this thread is so long winded and drifting off topic...)
"long winded"? "drifting"? "off topic"? NO idea what you're talking
about! :-)
P.S. I searched Google for an nn Cygwin package, but Google and I do not
get along very well anymore, if we ever did. But you might have more
luck.
[1] <http://cygwin.com>
[2] <http://www.tin.org>
[3] <http://cygwin.com/cgi-bin2/package-grep.cgi?grep=A+News+Reader>
Indi
> Hi Andrew, see below...
>
> "andrew" <and...@skamandros.invalid> wrote in message
> news:49p417x...@skamandros.andrews-corner.org...
>> "Scott Bass" <sas_...@SPAMMERSAREEVIL.yahoo.com.au.REMOVETHIS> writes:
>>
>>>Windows == :-( I've got Linux installed as well, but just can't get it to
>>>do all I need it to do, or run all the s/w I need.
>>
>> Hmmm... I don't suppose you have ever given VirtualBox a run?
>
> Actually I'd not heard of it. I tried Wine in Linux but it quickly fell
> into the too hard / don't have time to mess with this basket.
>
There's winedoors now, a GUI fontend for wine those that need it.
Even my non-geek housemate can use it, though I had to set it up for her
(but then, she actually needs someone to set up her email client too).
> I'm quite
> familiar with and have used VMware, and had heard of Virtual PC. I'll
> research Virtual Box under Linux to see if I can use Linux 80-90% of the
> time, and Virtual Box / Windows the rest of the time.
>
Vbox works extremely well and is trivial to set up, at least in FreeBSD,
OS X, and Linux.
In fact, you might just want to use windows in vbox on Linux, rather than
having to dual boot. I use it to watch netflix streaming video and play
the occasional game.
--
indi
andrew
> Actually I'd not heard of it. I tried Wine in Linux but it quickly fell
> into the too hard / don't have time to mess with this basket. I'm quite
> familiar with and have used VMware, and had heard of Virtual PC. I'll
> research Virtual Box under Linux to see if I can use Linux 80-90% of the
> time, and Virtual Box / Windows the rest of the time.
Just to whet your appetite here is a shot of VirtualBox:
http://www.andrews-corner.org/samples/photoshop.png
showing my own setup of a Slackware 13.0 host with the Windows 7 guest
running Photoshop...
Rockinghorse Winner
>Hi Andrew, see below...
>"andrew" <and...@skamandros.invalid> wrote in message
>If it were available I'd think Google would have turned it up, and that it
>would be on the main nn site. So I assume it's only available for Unix.
>I'll investigate nn-mode for slrn (thanks John); I haven't had time to
>configure it yet.
IIRC, nothing to configure, drop it in the macro dir, and call it from
.slrnrc.
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>[...]
> I hope this helps.
>[1] <http://cygwin.com>
>[2] <http://www.tin.org>
>[3] <http://cygwin.com/cgi-bin2/package-grep.cgi?grep=A+News+Reader>
I think it should be easy to build from source. I took a binary from a Mint
distro and dropped it into Fedora12, copied over all the config files and I
was in business.
Mebbe, just try to run the binary from within cygwin? It shows as having 2
dependencies: libc6 (>= 2.7-1), libncurses5 (>= 5.6+20071006-3).