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Re: Is anyone up to adding a new kill-by category in nn?
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Alan J Rosenthal
Feb 22, 2012, 8:12:18 PM2/22/12
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"Bill Simpson" <bsimpson...@gmail.com> writes:
[hypothetically]
>If you do a kill-by troll then the name goes into the
>kill file as a new variety of kill and any thread started by
>that name would have that subject dropped into the kill file.
I've had this idea for a while now of thread-based enhancements to
nn whereby for some groups (this would be a per-group configuration
option), it encourages me to rate each new thread and each new poster.
Some people's ratings would be sufficiently low that I never see postings
by them; others would only be shown if they were down-thread from someone
more interesting; other people would be shown unless the thread they're
in was marked as completely uninteresting; and some people are so great
that I'd see their articles even if the thread is marked as killed.
Similarly a rating of threads.
To do this I think nn would have to track the base message-ID for the thread.
This is supposed to be the first item in the References: list of all
subsequent messages in that thread.
While looking at an article, you could see and easily change the rating
of either the thread or the current poster. I worked out an initial set
of levels for both of these things, somewhere.
It's similar to "scoring" but it feels a bit cleaner, somehow; the
interactions between good posters and bad threads, or bad posters and
good threads, are made explicit.
Your "kill by troll" is my "mark current poster as idiot".
Also, it should track your own postings and apply some sort of variant rules
-- maybe I want to see followups to my own postings even if they are posted
by someone marked as "idiot", and maybe I want to see postings downthread
from my postings even if they are posted by someone marked as "boring".
("Boring" people's articles normally only are shown when in threads marked
as "fascinating".)
Oh, you asked for someone with time to help with the implementation?
(embarrassed throat-clearing) Sorry, this has been on my "maybe someday"
list for a very, very long time and I don't think it's likely I'll ever
actually get to it. I just enjoyed thinking about it.
[hypothetically]
>If you do a kill-by troll then the name goes into the
>kill file as a new variety of kill and any thread started by
>that name would have that subject dropped into the kill file.
I've had this idea for a while now of thread-based enhancements to
nn whereby for some groups (this would be a per-group configuration
option), it encourages me to rate each new thread and each new poster.
Some people's ratings would be sufficiently low that I never see postings
by them; others would only be shown if they were down-thread from someone
more interesting; other people would be shown unless the thread they're
in was marked as completely uninteresting; and some people are so great
that I'd see their articles even if the thread is marked as killed.
Similarly a rating of threads.
To do this I think nn would have to track the base message-ID for the thread.
This is supposed to be the first item in the References: list of all
subsequent messages in that thread.
While looking at an article, you could see and easily change the rating
of either the thread or the current poster. I worked out an initial set
of levels for both of these things, somewhere.
It's similar to "scoring" but it feels a bit cleaner, somehow; the
interactions between good posters and bad threads, or bad posters and
good threads, are made explicit.
Your "kill by troll" is my "mark current poster as idiot".
Also, it should track your own postings and apply some sort of variant rules
-- maybe I want to see followups to my own postings even if they are posted
by someone marked as "idiot", and maybe I want to see postings downthread
from my postings even if they are posted by someone marked as "boring".
("Boring" people's articles normally only are shown when in threads marked
as "fascinating".)
Oh, you asked for someone with time to help with the implementation?
(embarrassed throat-clearing) Sorry, this has been on my "maybe someday"
list for a very, very long time and I don't think it's likely I'll ever
actually get to it. I just enjoyed thinking about it.
Aaron W. Hsu
Aug 4, 2012, 3:50:20 PM8/4/12
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"Bill Simpson" <bsimpson...@gmail.com> writes:
>Nn has kill by subject and kill by name. I'm wondering whether
>anyone has the experience to add a new kill-by category or give
>me enough tips that I might have a good chance of getting this
>right if I tried it.
I do not have the time right now, but I am collecting up what I can
for future work at my GitHub copy of NN:
https://github.com/arcfide/Unicode-NN/issues
I have added your feature request to the issues list.
--
Aaron W. Hsu | arc...@sacrideo.us | http://www.sacrideo.us
Programming is just another word for the lost art of thinking.
>Nn has kill by subject and kill by name. I'm wondering whether
>anyone has the experience to add a new kill-by category or give
>me enough tips that I might have a good chance of getting this
>right if I tried it.
I do not have the time right now, but I am collecting up what I can
for future work at my GitHub copy of NN:
https://github.com/arcfide/Unicode-NN/issues
I have added your feature request to the issues list.
--
Aaron W. Hsu | arc...@sacrideo.us | http://www.sacrideo.us
Programming is just another word for the lost art of thinking.
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