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Nov 28, 1997, 3:00:00 AM11/28/97
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David C Lawrence wrote:
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> Archive-name: usenet/creating-newsgroups/part1
> Original-author: wo...@ncar.ucar.edu (Greg Woods)
> Comment: enhanced & edited until 5/93 by sp...@cs.purdue.edu (Gene Spafford)
> Last-change: 31 Jan 1997 by newgroup...@isc.org (David C Lawrence)
>
> GUIDELINES FOR USENET GROUP CREATION
>
> REQUIREMENTS FOR GROUP CREATION:
>
> These are guidelines that have been generally agreed upon across
> Usenet as appropriate for following in the creating of new newsgroups
> in the "standard" Usenet newsgroup hierarchy. They are NOT intended as
> guidelines for setting Usenet policy other than group creations, and
> they are not intended to apply to "alternate" or local news
> hierarchies. The part of the namespace affected is comp, humanities,
> misc, news, rec, sci, soc, talk, which are the most widely-distributed
> areas of the Usenet hierarchy.
>
> Any group creation request which follows these guidelines to a
> successful result should be honored, and any request which fails to
> follow these procedures or to obtain a successful result from doing so
> should be dropped, except under extraordinary circumstances. The
> reason these are called guidelines and not absolute rules is that it
> is not possible to predict in advance what "extraordinary
> circumstances" are or how they might arise.
>
> It should be pointed out here that, as always, the decision whether or
> not to create a newsgroup on a given machine rests with the
> administrator of that machine. These guidelines are intended merely as
> an aid in making those decisions.
>
> The Discussion
>
> group-...@acpub.duke.edu is a body of volunteers experienced with
> the newsgroup creation process. They assist people who want to
> propose new groups with the formation and submission of a good
> proposal. It is strongly encouraged, though not required, that they
> be contacted with an outline of the basic idea for a proposal, and a
> mentor will work with the proponents to submit a formal proposal.
> People who have experience with the process and wish to help others
> should contact group-ment...@acpub.duke.edu to join.
>
> 1) A request for discussion on creation of a new newsgroup should be
> posted to news.announce.newgroups, news.groups, and any other
> groups or mailing lists at all related to the proposed topic if
> desired. news.announce.newgroups is moderated, and the
> Followup-to: header will be set so that the actual discussion takes
> place only in news.groups. Users on sites which have difficulty
> posting to moderated groups may mail submissions intended for
> news.announce.newgroups to newg...@isc.org. The proposal
> must be in the format defined in "How to Format and Submit a
> New Group Proposal", a pointer to which is at the end of this message.
>
> The article should be cross-posted among the newsgroups, including
> news.announce.newgroups, rather than posted as separate articles.
> Note that standard behaviour for posting software is to not present
> the articles in any groups when cross-posted to a moderated group;
> the moderator will handle that for you.
>
> 2) The name and charter of the proposed group and whether it will be
> moderated or unmoderated (and if the former, who the moderator(s)
> will be) should be determined during the discussion period. If
> there is no general agreement on these points among the proponents
> of a new group at the end of 30 days of discussion, the discussion
> should be taken offline (into mail instead of news.groups) and the
> proponents should iron out the details among themselves. Once that
> is done, a new, more specific proposal may be made, going back to
> step 1) above.
>
> 3) Group advocates seeking help in choosing a name to suit the
> proposed charter, or looking for any other guidance in the creation
> procedure, can send a message to group-...@isc.org; a few
> seasoned news administrators are available through this address.
>
> The Vote
>
> The Usenet Volunteer Votetakers (UVV) are a group of neutral
> third-party vote-takers who currently handle vote gathering and
> counting for all newsgroup proposals. The coordinators of the group
> can be reached at uvv-c...@uvv.org; contact them to arrange the
> handling of the vote. The mechanics of vote will be handled in accord
> with the paragraphs below.
>
> 1) AFTER the discussion period, if it has been determined that a new
> group is really desired, a name and charter are agreed upon, and it
> has been determined whether the group will be moderated and if so
> who will moderate it, a call for votes may be posted to
> news.announce.newgroups and any other groups or mailing lists that
> the original request for discussion might have been posted
> to. There should be minimal delay between the end of the discussion
> period and the issuing of a call for votes. The call for votes
> should include clear instructions for how to cast a vote. It must
> be as clearly explained and as easy to do to cast a vote for
> creation as against it, and vice versa. It is explicitly permitted
> to set up two separate addresses to mail yes and no votes to
> provided that they are on the same machine, to set up an address
> different than that the article was posted from to mail votes to,
> or to just accept replies to the call for votes article, as long as
> it is clearly and explicitly stated in the call for votes article
> how to cast a vote. If two addresses are used for a vote, the
> reply address must process and accept both yes and no votes OR
> reject them both.
>
> 2) The voting period should last for at least 21 days and no more than
> 31 days, no matter what the preliminary results of the vote
> are. The exact date that the voting period will end should be
> stated in the call for votes. Only votes that arrive on the
> vote-taker's machine prior to this date will be counted.
>
> 3) A couple of repeats of the call for votes may be posted during the
> vote, provided that they contain similar clear, unbiased
> instructions for casting a vote as the original, and provided that
> it is really a repeat of the call for votes on the SAME proposal
> (see #5 below). Partial vote results should NOT be included; only a
> statement of the specific new group proposal, that a vote is in
> progress on it, and how to cast a vote. It is permitted to post a
> "mass acknowledgement" in which all the names of those from whom
> votes have been received are posted, as long as no indication is
> made of which way anybody voted until the voting period is
> officially over.
>
> 4) ONLY votes MAILED to the vote-taker will count. Votes posted to the
> net for any reason (including inability to get mail to the
> vote-taker) and proxy votes (such as having a mailing list
> maintainer claim a vote for each member of the list) will not be
> counted.
>
> 5) Votes may not be transferred to other, similar proposals. A vote
> shall count only for the EXACT proposal that it is a response
> to. In particular, a vote for or against a newsgroup under one name
> shall NOT be counted as a vote for or against a newsgroup with a
> different name or charter, a different moderated/unmoderated status
> or (if moderated) a different moderator or set of moderators.
>
> 6) Votes MUST be explicit; they should be of the form "I vote for the
> group foo.bar as proposed" or "I vote against the group foo.bar as
> proposed". The wording doesn't have to be exact, it just needs to
> be unambiguous. In particular, statements of the form "I would vote
> for this group if..." should be considered comments only and not
> counted as votes.
>
> 7) A vote should be run only for a single group proposal. Attempts to
> create multiple groups should be handled by running multiple
> parallel votes rather than one vote to create all of the groups.
>
> The Result
>
> 1) At the completion of the voting period, the vote taker must post
> the vote tally and the E-mail addresses and (if available) names of
> the voters received to news.announce.newgroups and any other groups
> or mailing lists to which the original call for votes was
> posted. The tally should include a statement of which way each
> voter voted so that the results can be verified.
>
> 2) AFTER the vote result is posted, there will be a 5 day waiting
> period, beginning when the voting results actually appear in
> news.announce.newgroups, during which the net will have a chance to
> correct any errors in the voter list or the voting procedure.
>
> 3) AFTER the waiting period, and if there were no serious objections
> that might invalidate the vote, and if 100 more valid YES/create
> votes are received than NO/don't create AND at least 2/3 of the
> total number of valid votes received are in favor of creation, a
> newgroup control message may be sent out. If the 100 vote margin
> or 2/3 percentage is not met, the group should not be created.
>
> 4) The newgroup message will be sent by the news.announce.newgroups
> moderator at the end of the waiting period of a successful vote.
>
> 5) A proposal which has failed under point (3) above should not again
> be brought up for discussion until at least six months have passed
> from the close of the vote. This limitation does not apply to
> proposals which never went to vote or polls that were cancelled or
> invalidated.
>
> ADDITIONAL REFERENCES:
>
> If you want to create a new group, the following additional documents
> should be read before you begin the process.
>
> Subject: How to Format and Submit a New Group Proposal
> Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups
>
> Subject: How to Write a Good Newsgroup Proposal
> Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups
>
> Subject: Usenet Newsgroup Creation Companion
> Newsgroups: news.groups,news.announce.newusers,news.answers
>
> Subject: What is Usenet?
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