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From: ji...@netcom.com (Jim Miller)
Date: 1996/05/22
Subject: Re: CFV: humanities.philosophy.objectivism (disinterested parties)
Betsy Speicher <be...@speicher.com> wrote: ...and vote YES!, whether or not they now use Usenet, or will use Usenet. >> >Neo-Techers are also not pleased. Although nobody is supposed to vote >> >more than once, the Neo-Techers are dishonest to the core, most use a >> >variety of aliases and have several accounts, and we are expecting a >> >lot of vote fraud. >> so you have decided to try and combat it by doing a little >> >We urgently need your YES vote. E-mail this to your friends and get >> i have no interest in your proposed newsgroup. but i think >> *bleagh*. >Ooops! This was a misstatement on my part. >I meant to say (and have since corrected this message) to say that In her unabridged campaign letter to an off-Usenet Objectivism mailing list, Speicher takes great pains to describe exactly what is a Usenet vote, the history of this particular vote, the history of the Usenet Rand newsgroups -- all in a tutorial style, clearly aimed at people unfamiliar with Usenet and with Rand on Usenet, who are exactly the type of people who should NOT be voting on a Usenet group. Speicher's purpose is to use establish Rand mailing lists populated by like-thinking people to recruit bodies in order to push this vote through. A pointer to the CFV is given, with its own pro-newgroup language, which she supplements with her own pro-newgroup propagandizing. She is happy for the "con" side of the argument never to be seen by these bodies; and this would only come to light by having a pre-existing interest in Rand discussion on Usenet, previously being subscribed to the Rand newsgroup which is engendering the newgroup, and having followed the newgroup discussion on that group with interest. Speicher doesn't care whether or not her recruits will be active participants in Usenet, or even whether or not they ever use a newsreader again after going through the mechanics of placing the "yes" vote -- she makes no exhortations to this effect in her campaign letter, which, again, is a streamlined piece of writing whose sole purpose is to extract expected "yes" votes from people with closely matching ideology from the Rand mailing list -- a rich mother lode of votes. Speicher obligingly "oops!"es for us, but the character of her letter I'll be submitting her original letter, along with my comments, to the -Jim Miller -- You must Sign in before you can post messages.
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