RFD: rec.music.artists.blind-guardian
Andreas Kalchschmid
unmoderated group rec.music.artists.blind-guardian
This is a formal Request For Discussion (RFD) for the creation of a
world-wide unmoderated Usenet newsgroup rec.music.artists.blind-guardian.
This is not a Call for Votes (CFV); you cannot vote at this time.
Procedural details are below.
Newsgroup line:
rec.music.artists.blind-guardian The music group Blind Guardian.
RATIONALE: rec.music.artists.blind-guardian
Blind Guardian is a Heavy Metal Band, you even can say an Art Metal Band as
there are many classical and folky elements in there kind of music. The band
exists since 1988 and soon they have been popular all over the world in the
metal scene what you can see in their immense success in Japan. Their songs
are often about books or film of the fantasy and sci-fi genre.
This newsgroup should be created, because many people all over the world
would be interested in it. There exist some hundred private sites in the
internet about Blind Guardian, and nearly all of them are highly visited.
There also exist some html-based discussion pages and they are high
frequented, too. But having a good discussion on this pages isn't very easy
and comfortabe, caused by the long time you have to wait to get or post a
message. And there is also the disadvantage that you cannot sort the
articles by date, name or anything else.
CHARTER: rec.music.artists.blind-guardian
All articles suitable for posting to rec.music.artists.blind-guardian are
those pertaining to any topic related to the music group Blind Guardian
Expected topics of discussion will include:
-meanings of lyrics, covers
-interviews or speeches of the band
-exchange of urls of band related sites
-new tours or CDs of the band
-some fantasy and sci-fi related issues (caused by the discussions of the
meaning of lyrics and covers)
-related bands
-Advertising posts: If there is a new product of Blind Guardian (website,
book...) it is allright to post one message that this new product exists
now, but it is not allowed to post a second time.
Inappropriate posts will include:
- Flaming and inappropriate posts. All users of this group will
maintain a level of respect and common courtesy for other posters
and will refrain from using excessive foul or threatening language
whose purpose is to disrespect another user.
-Binaries like pictures or sounds except those of the PGP type
END CHARTER.
PROCEDURE:
This is a request for discussion, not a call for votes. In this phase of the
process, any potential problems with the proposed newsgroup should be raised
and resolved. The discussion period will continue for a minimum of 21 days
(starting from when the first RFD for this proposal is posted to
news.announce.newgroups), after which a Call For Votes (CFV) may be posted
by a neutral vote taker if the discussion warrants it. Please do not attempt
to vote until this happens.
All discussion of this proposal should be posted to news.groups.
This RFD attempts to comply fully with the Usenet newsgroup creation
guidelines outlined in "How to Create a New Usenet Newsgroup" and "How to
Format and Submit a New Group Proposal". Please refer to these documents
(available in news.announce.newgroups) if you have any questions about the
process.
DISTRIBUTION:
This RFD has been posted to the following newsgroups (via header).
news.announce.newgroups
news.groups
alt.fan.tolkien
rec.music.info
de.alt.music.metal
it.arti.fantasy
rec.music.artists.queensryche
alt.rock-n-roll.metal
Proponent: Andreas Kalchschmid <blackc...@mordor.ch>
Neil Crellin
unmoderated group rec.music.artists.blind-guardian
This CFV is to be distributed only by the votetaker. It is not to be
posted to newsgroups, or mailed to mailing lists or individuals, except by
the votetaker. Ballots or CFVs provided by anyone else will be invalid.
Newsgroups line:
rec.music.artists.blind-guardian The music group Blind Guardian.
Votes must be received by 23:59:59 UTC, 9 Jul 1999.
This vote is being conducted by a neutral third party. Questions
about the proposed group should be directed to the proponent.
Proponent: Andreas Kalchschmid <blackc...@mordor.ch>
Mentor: Jonathan Grobe <gr...@worf.netins.net>
Votetaker: Neil Crellin <ne...@wallaby.cc>
RATIONALE: rec.music.artists.blind-guardian
CHARTER: rec.music.artists.blind-guardian
-Flaming and inappropriate posts. All users of this group will
maintain a level of respect and common courtesy for other posters
and will refrain from using excessive foul or threatening language
whose purpose is to disrespect another user.
-Binaries like pictures or sounds except those of the PGP type
END CHARTER.
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Neil Crellin
unmoderated group rec.music.artists.blind-guardian
RATIONALE: rec.music.artists.blind-guardian
CHARTER: rec.music.artists.blind-guardian
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Your Vote Newsgroup
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rec.music.artists.blind-guardian Bounce List - Please contact me about your vote
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al...@REMOVESPAMGUARDdds.nl Alper Cugun
ph...@panix.com Phil Gustafson
Neil Crellin
unmoderated group rec.music.artists.blind-guardian fails 23:39
There were 23 YES votes and 39 NO votes, for a total of 62 valid
votes. There were 2 abstentions and 2 invalid ballots.
For a group to pass, YES votes must be at least 2/3 of all valid
(YES and NO) votes. There must also be at least 100 more YES votes
than NO votes.
A five day discussion period follows this announcement. Unless
serious allegations of voting irregularities are raised, the group
may not be voted on again for six months.
Newsgroups line:
rec.music.artists.blind-guardian The music group Blind Guardian.
The voting period closed at 23:59:59 UTC, 9 Jul 1999.
This vote was conducted by a neutral third party. Questions
RATIONALE: rec.music.artists.blind-guardian
CHARTER: rec.music.artists.blind-guardian
END CHARTER.
rec.music.artists.blind-guardian Final Voter list
NOTE: This is not [to be used as] a mailing list. The email addresses
are posted only to help verify the interest poll. Thank you.
Voted YES
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mcduke [at] magnet.at Thomas Herzog
s338443 [at] student.uq.edu.au Shaun Nancarrow
dany.steyaert [at] ping.be Dany Steyaert
blackchamber [at] mordor.ch Andreas =
hornist1 [at] aol.com Hornist 1
Jason.Breitweg [at] blind-guardian.com Jason Breitweg
stacia [at] io.com Stacia Kissick
Mordeth [at] nettaxi.com Cillian Critchley=20
fkrebs [at] bndlg.de Florian Krebs<BR> <BR><FONT=20
jdarmochwal [at] gmx.de Jan Darmochwal
tarak.kwien [at] gmx.de Jan Peterding
stratovarius [at] gmx.de Julian Luna
mwirz [at] HTWM.De Michael Wirz
vote-big8 [at] kholdan.snafu.de tobias erle
GTM_Boehm [at] t-online.de Michael Böhm
uli [at] math.auc.dk Ulrich Fehrenberg
rufinus [at] mbe.ece.wisc.edu J Rufinus
runggaldier [at] iol.it Klaus Oskar Runggaldier
DonMetal [at] Gmx.Net Rasmus Althoff
soth [at] gmx.net Jens Fischer
finn0 [at] lineone.net Maurice Finn
nm156 [at] ihug.co.nz Glenn Caulfield
l42809 [at] alfa.ist.utl.pt Pedro Andrade
Voted NO
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crleech [at] freenet.carleton.ca C. Leech
trevort [at] inorth.on.ca Trevor Tymchuk
travis [at] SEDSystems.ca Shane H. W. Travis
ru [at] cls.usask.ca Ru Igarashi
jeremymcm1 [at] aol.com Jeremy McMillan
sforsell [at] aol.com Scott Forsell
valeriepg [at] aol.com Valerie Romano
kimdv [at] best.com Kim DeVaughn
stainles [at] bga.com Dwight Brown
davidbath [at] bigfoot.com David E. Bath
dputzolu [at] BigFoot.com David M. Putzolu
ahk [at] chinet.chinet.com Adam H. Kerman
ferret [at] enteract.com Karl Meyer
julesd [at] erols.com Jules Dubois
celticwiccan [at] hotmail.com Peter Byron
jesp [at] hotmail.com Eugenio Sanchez
kamlet [at] infinet.com Art Kamlet
cipher [at] mindspring.com Cipher
gprrspw [at] mindspring.com G.P. Ryan
olav [at] viking.mv.com Olav Nieuwejaar
phil [at] panix.com Phil Gustafson
bmailman [at] sfo.com Brian Mailman
josephb [at] tezcat.com Joe Bernstein
francis_uy [at] yahoo.com Frank Uy
Ekkehard.Uthke [at] gmx.de Ekkehard Uthke
naddy [at] mips.rhein-neckar.de Christian Weisgerber
c928400 [at] student.dtu.dk Preben Guldberg
jdavis [at] bsod.CS.Arizona.EDU Jim Davis
hfung [at] csupomona.edu Hank Fung
meg [at] Steam.Stanford.EDU meg worley
rick [at] bcm.tmc.edu Richard Miller
graham [at] maxwell.ee.washington.edu Stephen Graham
porter.clark [at] msfc.nasa.gov J. Porter Clark
tov [at] altavista.net Mike Craig
larmondin [at] ica.net Larmondin
a.dawson [at] pmail.net Alex Dawson
kate [at] haven.eyrie.org
joeshaw [at] oh.krunk.org Joe Shaw
merlin [at] A470.demon.co.uk Darren Wyn Rees
Abstained
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mcclenon [at] erols.com Bob McClenon
chris [at] kzim.com Christopher Robin Zimmerman
Invalid votes
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mail [at] frenki.de Frank Barwich
! Ineligible address
alperi [at] REMOVESPAMGUARDdds.nl Alper Cugun
! Undeliverable address: user unknown munged and unmunged
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