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Don Varnau

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May 11, 1999, 3:00:00 AM5/11/99
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REQUEST FOR DISCUSSION (RFD)
unmoderated group rec.boats.paddle.whitewater
unmoderated group rec.boats.paddle.touring

This is a formal Request For Discussion (RFD) for the creation of
world-wide unmoderated Usenet newsgroups rec.boats.paddle.whitewater
and rec.boats.paddle.touring. This is not a Call for Votes (CFV);
you cannot vote at this time. Procedural details are below.

Newsgroup lines:
rec.boats.paddle.touring Flatwater paddling and touring.
rec.boats.paddle.whitewater Whitewater paddling.

RATIONALE: all groups

The newsgroup rec.boats.paddle carried more than 17,500 messages in
the first three months of 1999 for an average of 195 per day. A
newsgroup with almost 200 messages per day can be difficult to read
and is considered by many to be too busy. Additionally, the total
number of posts increased by 40% from 1997 to 1998 (50,285 in
1998 vs 36,008 in 1997.) It is reasonable to expect that this growth
will continue. The creation of two new groups as subgroups to
rec.boats.paddle would redistribute this traffic among three groups
and would allow paddlers to read and post to a more focused group.

Discussion of flatwater paddling constitutes a minority of the traffic
on rbp. A rec.boats.paddle.touring group would provide a forum for
those who are interested primarily in the use of canoes, kayaks,
pulling boats or similar craft on rivers, lakes, oceans or other
essentially flat bodies of water. It is hoped that a lower volume
group, dedicated to touring, will encourage posting by paddlers who
are currently exchanging information through mailing lists, bulletin
boards, or other forums.

Relevant discussion of whitewater paddling on rec.boats.paddle has
been diminished by the large number of posts and the broad scope of
those posts. A rec.boats.paddle.whitewater group would facilitate
focused, quality discussion for those who use kayaks, canoes, rafts,
or similar craft on whitewater.

Rec.boats.paddle would continue to provide a forum for issues of
interest to all paddlers and for those paddling-related topics which
aren't appropriate to either of the more focused subgroups.

CHARTER: rec.boats.paddle.whitewater

Appropriate topics for rec.boats.paddle.whitewater include questions
and comments about the paddling of swiftly moving water primarily in
rivers, but also including ocean water in the surf zone or in tidal
bores. Though not technically whitewater, discussion of the sport of
canoe (kayak) polo is also acceptable. Discussion of paddling
whitewater by any craft is acceptable, including but not limited to
kayaks, canoes, rafts, surf skis, inflatable kayaks and dories.
Additionally, discussion of whitewater travel by riverboard, inner
tube or in the total absence of a craft (swimming) is permitted.
Discussion of equipment, techniques, river conditions, trip reports,
or trips being planned would be appropriate. Discussion of other
paddling-related topics should be taken to either rec.boats.paddle or
rec.boats.paddle.touring, as appropriate.

Crossposting should be kept to a minimum. An article which would be of
interest to the entire paddling community should be posted to
rec.boats.paddle instead of to the subgroups. Readers who are
interested in general paddling traffic should subscribe to
rec.boats.paddle.

In accordance with current Usenet guidelines, spam is prohibited.
Commercial posts should be relevant, short and infrequent. A link to
a website, or an e-mail address should be posted rather than the
promotional material itself.

For Sale and Wanted to Buy posts by individuals should be preceded by
a [FS] or [WTB] flag in the subject header and should be posted no
more than once per week.

Binary files should not be posted to this newsgroup.

END CHARTER.

CHARTER: rec.boats.paddle.touring

Appropriate topics for rec.boats.paddle.touring include questions and
comments about the paddling of canoes, sea, touring or recreational
kayaks and related craft on, rivers, lakes, and oceans for touring,
excursions, and explorations of any length. This may include some
discussion of whitewater if undertaken as part of a longer trip.
Discussion of equipment, techniques, routes, or trip reports would be
appropriate. Discussion of other paddling-related topics should be
taken to either rec.boats.paddle or rec.boats.paddle.whitewater, as
appropriate.

Crossposting should be kept to a minimum. An article which would be of
interest to the entire paddling community should be posted to
rec.boats.paddle instead of to the subgroups. Readers who
are interested in general paddling traffic should subscribe
to rec.boats.paddle.

In accordance with current Usenet guidelines, spam is prohibited.
Commercial posts should be relevant, short and infrequent. A link to
a website, or an e-mail address should be posted rather than the
promotional material itself.

For Sale and Wanted to Buy posts by individuals should be preceded by
a [FS] or [WTB] flag in the subject header and should be posted no
more than once per week.

Binary files should not be posted to this newsgroup.

END CHARTER.

PROCEDURE:

This is a request for discussion, not a call for votes. In this phase
of the process, any potential problems with the proposed newsgroups
should be raised and resolved. The discussion period will continue
for a minimum of 21 days (starting from when the first RFD for this
proposal is posted to news.announce.newgroups), after which a Call For
Votes (CFV) may be posted by a neutral vote taker if the discussion
warrants it. Please do not attempt to vote until this happens.

All discussion of this proposal should be posted to news.groups.

This RFD attempts to comply fully with the Usenet newsgroup creation
guidelines outlined in "How to Create a New Usenet Newsgroup" and "How
to Format and Submit a New Group Proposal". Please refer to these
documents (available in news.announce.newgroups) if you have any
questions about the process.

DISTRIBUTION:

This RFD has been posted to the following newsgroups:

news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,
rec.boats.paddle,rec.backcountry,
rec.boats.building,rec.scouting.misc,
uk.rec.boats.paddle

Proponent: John Lester <jwle...@ucdavis.edu>
Proponent: Bob Solak <sola...@pilot.msu.edu>
Proponent: Bud Chavez <bch...@rippe.com>
Proponent: Lloyd Bowles <lbo...@bmts.com>
Proponent: Don Varnau <dva...@idir.net>
Proponent: Jim Michaels <jmic...@home.com>

Neil Crellin

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Jun 18, 1999, 3:00:00 AM6/18/99
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FIRST CALL FOR VOTES (of 2)
unmoderated group rec.boats.paddle.touring
unmoderated group rec.boats.paddle.whitewater

This CFV is to be distributed only by the votetaker. It is not to be
posted to newsgroups, or mailed to mailing lists or individuals, except by
the votetaker. Ballots or CFVs provided by anyone else will be invalid.

Newsgroups lines:


rec.boats.paddle.touring Flatwater paddling and touring.
rec.boats.paddle.whitewater Whitewater paddling.

Votes must be received by 23:59:59 UTC, 9 Jul 1999.

This vote is being conducted by a neutral third party. Questions
about the proposed group should be directed to the proponent.

Proponent: John Lester <jwle...@ucdavis.edu>
Proponent: Bob Solak <sola...@pilot.msu.edu>
Proponent: Bud Chavez <bch...@rippe.com>
Proponent: Lloyd Bowles <lbo...@bmts.com>
Proponent: Don Varnau <dva...@idir.net>
Proponent: Jim Michaels <jmic...@home.com>

Votetaker: Neil Crellin <ne...@wallaby.cc>

RATIONALE: rec.boats.paddle.touring

The newsgroup rec.boats.paddle carried more than 17,500 messages in
the first three months of 1999 for an average of 195 per day. A
newsgroup with almost 200 messages per day can be difficult to read
and is considered by many to be too busy. Additionally, the total
number of posts increased by 40% from 1997 to 1998 (50,285 in
1998 vs 36,008 in 1997.) It is reasonable to expect that this growth
will continue. The creation of two new groups as subgroups to
rec.boats.paddle would redistribute this traffic among three groups
and would allow paddlers to read and post to a more focused group.

Discussion of flatwater paddling constitutes a minority of the traffic
on rbp. A rec.boats.paddle.touring group would provide a forum for
those who are interested primarily in the use of canoes, kayaks,
pulling boats or similar craft on rivers, lakes, oceans or other
essentially flat bodies of water. It is hoped that a lower volume
group, dedicated to touring, will encourage posting by paddlers who
are currently exchanging information through mailing lists, bulletin
boards, or other forums.

RATIONALE: rec.boats.paddle.whitewater

The newsgroup rec.boats.paddle carried more than 17,500 messages in
the first three months of 1999 for an average of 195 per day. A
newsgroup with almost 200 messages per day can be difficult to read
and is considered by many to be too busy. Additionally, the total
number of posts increased by 40% from 1997 to 1998 (50,285 in
1998 vs 36,008 in 1997.) It is reasonable to expect that this growth
will continue. The creation of two new groups as subgroups to
rec.boats.paddle would redistribute this traffic among three groups
and would allow paddlers to read and post to a more focused group.

Relevant discussion of whitewater paddling on rec.boats.paddle has


been diminished by the large number of posts and the broad scope of
those posts. A rec.boats.paddle.whitewater group would facilitate
focused, quality discussion for those who use kayaks, canoes, rafts,
or similar craft on whitewater.

CHARTER: rec.boats.paddle.touring

END CHARTER.

CHARTER: rec.boats.paddle.whitewater

END CHARTER.

IMPORTANT VOTING PROCEDURE NOTES: READ THIS BEFORE VOTING

The purpose of a Usenet vote is to determine the genuine interest in
reading the proposed newsgroup, and soliciting votes from uninterested
parties defeats this purpose. Do *not* distribute this CFV; instead,
direct people to the official CFV as posted to news.announce.newgroups.
Distributing specific voting instructions or pre-marked copies of
this CFV is considered vote fraud.

This is a public vote: All email addresses, names and votes will be
listed in the final RESULT post. The name used may be either a real
name or an established Usenet handle.

At most one vote is allowed per person or per account. Duplicate
votes will be resolved in favor of the most recent valid vote.

Voters must mail their ballots directly to the votetaker. Anonymous,
forwarded, or proxy votes are not valid, nor are votes mailed from
WWW/HTML/CGI forms (which should not exist). Votes from nonexistent
accounts are also invalid, and the votetaker will reject any "munged"
address he cannot decipher immediately.

Please direct any questions to the votetaker at <ne...@wallaby.cc>

HOW TO VOTE:

Extract the ballot from the CFV by deleting everything before and after
the "BEGINNING OF BALLOT" and "END OF BALLOT" lines. Don't worry about
the spacing of the columns or any quote characters (">") that your
reply inserts. Please, DO NOT send the entire CFV back to me!

Fill in the ballot as shown below. Please provide your REAL NAME and
indicate your desired vote in the appropriate locations inside the ballot.

Examples of how to properly indicate your vote:

[ YES ] example.yes.vote
[ NO ] example.no.vote
[ ABSTAIN ] example.abstention
[ CANCEL ] example.cancellation

DO NOT modify, alter or delete any information in this ballot!
If you do, the voting software will probably reject your ballot.

When finished, MAIL the ballot to: < vot...@uvv.wallaby.cc >
Just "replying" to this message should work, but check the "To:" line.

If you do not receive an acknowledgment of your vote within three
days contact the votetaker about the problem. You are responsible
for reading your ack and making sure your vote is registered correctly.

If these instructions are unclear, please consult the Introduction to
Usenet Voting or the Usenet Voting FAQ at http://www.stanford.edu/~neilc/uvv.

======== BEGINNING OF BALLOT: Delete everything before this line =======
.-----------------------------------------------------------------------
| 1ST CALL FOR VOTES: rec.boats.paddle-reorg
| Official Usenet Voting Ballot <RBPr-0001> (Do not remove this line!)
|-----------------------------------------------------------------------
| Please provide your real name, or your vote may be rejected. Place
| ONLY your name (ie. do NOT include your e-mail address or any other
| information; ONLY your name) after the colon on the following line:

Voter name:

| Insert YES, NO, ABSTAIN, or CANCEL inside the brackets for each
| newsgroup listed below (do not delete the newsgroup name):

Your Vote Newsgroup
--------- -----------------------------------------------------------
[ ] rec.boats.paddle.touring
[ ] rec.boats.paddle.whitewater

======== END OF BALLOT: Delete everything after this line ==============

DISTRIBUTION:

Pointers directing readers to this CFV will be posted in these groups:

git.ce.concrete.canoe

and to these mailing lists:

Whitewater Mailing List <white...@gsp.org>
Paddlewise Mailing List <paddl...@lists.intelenet.net>

This CFV was created with uvpq 1.0 (Feb 6 1999).
PQ datestamp: 980322

--
Voting address: vot...@uvv.wallaby.cc

Neil Crellin

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Jun 30, 1999, 3:00:00 AM6/30/99
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LAST CALL FOR VOTES (of 2)

RATIONALE: rec.boats.paddle.touring

RATIONALE: rec.boats.paddle.whitewater

CHARTER: rec.boats.paddle.touring

END CHARTER.

CHARTER: rec.boats.paddle.whitewater

END CHARTER.

HOW TO VOTE:

| 2ND CALL FOR VOTES: rec.boats.paddle-reorg
| Official Usenet Voting Ballot <RBPr-0002> (Do not remove this line!)


|-----------------------------------------------------------------------
| Please provide your real name, or your vote may be rejected. Place
| ONLY your name (ie. do NOT include your e-mail address or any other
| information; ONLY your name) after the colon on the following line:

Voter name:

| Insert YES, NO, ABSTAIN, or CANCEL inside the brackets for each
| newsgroup listed below (do not delete the newsgroup name):

Your Vote Newsgroup
--------- -----------------------------------------------------------
[ ] rec.boats.paddle.touring
[ ] rec.boats.paddle.whitewater

======== END OF BALLOT: Delete everything after this line ==============

DISTRIBUTION:

Pointers directing readers to this CFV will be posted in these groups:

git.ce.concrete.canoe

and to these mailing lists:

Whitewater Mailing List <white...@gsp.org>
Paddlewise Mailing List <paddl...@lists.intelenet.net>

rec.boats.paddle-reorg Bounce List - Please contact me about your vote
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gward1...@home.com Glenn Ward
NoJunk...@Netscape.net Clarence Bourque
nospa...@mind.net Joel Tobias

Neil Crellin

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Jul 12, 1999, 3:00:00 AM7/12/99
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RESULT
unmoderated group rec.boats.paddle.touring passes 204:52
unmoderated group rec.boats.paddle.whitewater passes 194:57

Yes No | 2/3 >100 | Pass | Group
---- ---- | --- ---- | ---- | -------------------------------------------
204 52 | Yes Yes | Yes | rec.boats.paddle.touring
194 57 | Yes Yes | Yes | rec.boats.paddle.whitewater

There were 261 valid ballots and 8 invalid ballots

A five day discussion period follows this announcement. If no
serious allegations of voting irregularities are raised, the
moderator of news.announce.newgroups will create the groups shortly
thereafter.

Newsgroups lines:
rec.boats.paddle.touring Flatwater paddling and touring.
rec.boats.paddle.whitewater Whitewater paddling.

The voting period closed at 23:59:59 UTC, 9 Jul 1999.

This vote was conducted by a neutral third party. Questions

RATIONALE: rec.boats.paddle.touring

RATIONALE: rec.boats.paddle.whitewater

CHARTER: rec.boats.paddle.touring

END CHARTER.

CHARTER: rec.boats.paddle.whitewater

END CHARTER.

rec.boats.paddle-reorg Final Voter list

NOTE: This is not [to be used as] a mailing list. The email addresses
are posted only to help verify the interest poll. Thank you.

rec.boats.paddle.whitewater ----+
rec.boats.paddle.touring ---+|
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