VOTE RESULTS FOR rec.pyrotechnics.nuclear: GROUP FAILS
John Cowan
were received, of which 101 were in favor and 93 were opposed.
Although this represents a majority vote, the Guidelines require acceptance
by a 2/3 majority such that (yeses - noes) > 100. These conditions were not
met, so the group has FAILED.
Originally, voting was to close on December 7, 21 days after it began.
However, I lost my connection at marob.masa.com before that time, and my
mail was only irregularly forwarded to this new site, magpie.masa.com.
(There is no connection between the managements of marob and magpie,
despite the shared domain.) I believe that no votes were lost.
Since the voting results would not be materially changed thereby, I chose
to count all votes mailed on or before December 7th, whenever received.
Oh well, conversation in sci.physics.edward.teller.boom.boom.boom has
pretty much died off anyway. Saylavee.
Quotable quotes from YES voters:
"Does the Right to Keep and Bear Arms apply to nukes?"
"I'll have to admit that I prefer the original newsgroup title, though ..."
"I don't care if this keeps me from *EVER* getting a security clearance."
"The world needs more newsgroups like this one."
"Any group that began so quixotically deserves to live. Besides, I might learn
something."
"Giggle! Take that, NSA!"
"p.s. another suggestion for a shorter name could be rec.diy.bombh... :-)"
"Roll on the Unclear Wernit!"
"In the unlikely event that this isn't a joke :-), I vote YES for
the creation of rec.pyrotechnic.nuclear."
"The quick brown fox jumps over the lazy dog."
"Ho ve! Alia lojban-ulo! Kia fu<sa<jo!"
"Do It Fast, Don't Be Slow
Nuke the Bastards Till They Glow"
Quotable quotes from NO voters:
"NO! NO! NO! Just say 'no' to silly groups."
"Get real."
"really is a pretty silly group, no?"
"There is such a thing as taking a joke too far, y'know."
"Mu."
"I vote no. "Recreation" and "nuclear" do not go together. Perhaps
sci.physics.nuclear would be more appropriate."
"TSIA!"
"Sorry, but this is too much for me."
"The whole idea is stupid & dangerous."
"Agh... too absurd!!"
"sci.military already covers this topic quite adequately."
"No, do not create rec.pyrotechnics.nuclear. Sounds like it'd be a silly
and stupid group like talk.bizarre ;-)."
"There are, IMO, too many groups on usenet now. We were better off
when the net was smaller, and more narrowly focused towards technical
issues. This seems to me like useless fluff."
"Jeez."
Names of YES voters:
"BASHFL::ASTRO::HERRICKD" <uunet!abvax!iccgcc.decnet.ab.com!herrickd%bashfl.astro.decnet>
"Douglas F. DeJulio" <andrew.cmu.edu!dd26+>
"Lefty" <twg.com!lefty>
"Ofer Inbar" <chaos.cs.brandeis.edu!cos>
"Roger H. Goun 20-Nov-1990 1556" <ddif.enet.dec.com!goun>
"Sylvain Louboutin, University College Dublin" <ccvax.ucd.ie!LOUBOUTN>
"Todd L. Masco" <andrew.cmu.edu!tm2b+>
"compost happens" <alaska.bitnet!FSEJO>
'Hans Huttel' <lfcs.edinburgh.ac.uk!hans>
Andrei Cogan <ocf.berkeley.edu!coganman>
Arthur Bernard Byrne <newton.acc.virginia.edu!abb3w>
Bob Manson <cis.ohio-state.edu!manson>
Charles J. Guest <pioneer.arc.nasa.gov!chguest>
Christopher Bryden <freezer.it.udel.edu!bryden>
Christopher Pettus <apple.com!cep>
Chuck Carroll <uxa.cso.uiuc.edu!cec35848>
Clifford A Adams PHILOSOPHY <triton.unm.edu!caadams>
David Goldfarb <ocf.berkeley.edu!goldfarb>
David Wright <stl.stc.co.uk!D.W.Wright>
George William Herbert <marob!ocf.berkeley.edu!gwh>
Jerry B. Altzman <marob!cunixf.cc.columbia.edu!jbaltz>
Jon Blow <ocf.berkeley.edu!blojo>
Kjetil T. Homme <ifi.uio.no!kjetilho>
Lars H}kedal <ifi.uio.no!larsha>
Laszlo C Balint <kolvi.hut.fi!lba>
Miles Bader <andrew.cmu.edu!bader+>
Nathan James Loofbourrow <andrew.cmu.edu!nl0s+>
Per Andersson <math.chalmers.se!pa>
Per Danielsson <sics.se!pd>
Peter Glen Berger <andrew.cmu.edu!pb1p+>
Peter da Silva <ficc.ferranti.com!peter>
R James Noble <marob!comp.vuw.ac.nz!kjx>
Robert C Thayer <rpi.edu!rcthayer>
Steve Coltrin <uupsi!njin!uokmax.ecn.uoknor.edu!spcoltri>
Tim Chesley <ccu.umanitoba.ca!umchesle>
Tim Day <ps.ucl.ac.uk!tday>
ames!beaver.cs.washington.edu!mcgp1!jgo (John Opalko)
ames!elroy!usc!demott.uucp!kdq (Kevin D. Quitt)
ames!scicom.alphacdc.com!rcw (Robert White)
ames!zorch.SF-Bay.ORG!xanthian (Kent Paul Dolan)
asc.upenn.edu!SJPORTE
aspen.ulowell.edu!bhuttam (The Nukeman)
athena.mit.edu!genoa
athena.mit.edu!rasmith
athena.mit.edu!rlcarr
banyan.banyan.com!gil (Gil Pilz@Eng@Banyan)
boris.mindcraft.com!mindcrf!ronnie (Ronnie Kon)
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ccwf.cc.utexas.edu!jerry (Jerry Porter)
cd.chalmers.se!smidt
cowan (John Cowan)
crdos1.crd.ge.com!davidsen
cs.brown.edu!cgy (Curtis Yarvin)
cs.rochester.edu!yamauchi
cs.uiuc.edu!zweig (Johnny Zweig)
css.itd.umich.edu!nestene
east.sun.com!sgolson (Steve Golson)
emory.mathcs.emory.edu!rsiatl!jgd (John G. DeArmond)
emory.mathcs.emory.edu!rsiatl!pda (Paul D. Anderson)
eng.umd.edu!russotto (Matthew T. Russotto)
goanna.cs.rmit.oz.au!sw (Simon Wail)
hub.ucsb.edu!6600gto%ucsbuxa (Gregory T. Olson)
hubcap.clemson.edu!kfitzpa (Kevin Fitzpatrick)
hudson.cs.columbia.edu!dupuy (Alexander Dupuy)
husc4.harvard.edu!durrell (Cyberpixie)
jpl-devvax.jpl.nasa.gov!lwall (Larry Wall)
jra...@devildog.UUCP (Jon Allen)
marob!autodesk.com!melange!abeals (Plu festu, uloj)
marob!cfsmo.honeywell.com!tima (Timothy D Aanerud)
marob!eldp.epfl.ch!RUFENACHT
marob!uunet!tessi!larry (Larry Gillespie)
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monu6.cc.monash.edu.au!vac159g (Simon Cocking)
monu6.cc.monash.edu.au!vac241j (Anthony Baxter)
mtsg.ubc.ca!Jonathan_Thornburg
nprdc.navy.mil!malloy (Sean Malloy)
phys.unit.no!nareid
prism.gatech.edu!gs26 (Glenn R. Stone)
rhi.hi.is!frisk (Fridrik Skulason)
slate.mines.colorado.edu!jalmergr (ALMERGREN JOACHIM -ND)
sun!apple!well!shibumi (Kenton A. Hoover)
sun!juts.ccc.amdahl.com!ked01 (Kim DeVaughn)
suna.mqcc.mq.oz.au!ifarqhar (Ian Farquhar)
svax.cs.cornell.edu!wayner (Peter Wayner)
taurus.cs.nps.navy.mil!news
thufir.cs.umn.edu!iacovou (Danny Iacovou)
ukfca1.uk.ate.slb.com!ams
ultima.csd.uts.EDU.AU!axolotl (Iain D. Sinclair)
unccvax.uncc.edu!cs64jec (j. church)
uunet!Morgan.COM!sethb (Seth Breidbart)
uunet!auspex.com!bae (Brian Ehrmantraut)
uunet!ddsw1.mcs.com!zane (Sameer Parekh)
uunet!edsr!tantalum!bonzo (Matt L. Armstrong)
uunet!pa.reuter.com!dgil (Dave Gillett)
uunet!proxima!frcs!paul (Paul Nash)
uupsi!njin!rutgers.rutgers.edu!bit!jayl (Jay Lessert)
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vs2.scri.fsu.edu!murray (John Murray)
w...@erebus.att.com (William Clare Stewart)
Names of NO voters:
"Christopher Tate" <psuvm.psu.edu!CXT105>
"Phil Gross" <chaos.cs.brandeis.edu!philbo>
Bill Sommerfeld <athena.mit.edu!wesommer>
Brian Carlton <bdcsys.suvl.ca.us!bdc>
Chris Jones <uunet!ksr.com!clj>
Chris Klausmeier <uunet!mixcom!cyaa01>
Dan Hoey <etl.army.mil!hoey>
David Herron <twg.com!david>
David Sewell <uhura.cc.rochester.edu!dsew>
Ed McGuire <cadfx.ccad.uiowa.edu!emcguire>
Floyd Vest <ducvax.auburn.edu!FVEST>
Gisle Hannemyr <marob!ifi.uio.no!gisle>
Helge Hauglin <ifi.uio.no!helgeh>
Jean-Francois Rit <killdeer.stanford.edu!rit>
Jef Poskanzer <well.sf.ca.us!jef>
Jim Roche <cs.rochester.edu!roche>
Jo Are Rosland <ifi.uio.no!jar>
Joel B Levin <bbn.com!levin>
John Peace <dg-rtp.dg.com!peace>
Nick Sayer <quack.sac.ca.us!mrapple>
Norman Yarvin <cs.yale.edu!yarvin-norman>
Rich Salz <marob!bbn.com!rsalz>
Richard H. Miller <pavlov.ssctr.bcm.tmc.edu!rick>
Rob Guttmann <uunet!gumedlib.georgetown.edu!rob>
Scott Barman <sc...@nbc1.ge.com>
Stan Barber <tmc.edu!sob>
Steffen Reithermann <uklirb.informatik.uni-kl.de!reitherm>
Steve Simmons <iti.org!scs>
The Man Who Invented Himself <uunet!sco.COM!stewarte>
Timothy VanFosson <cadfx.ccad.uiowa.edu!timv>
ads.com!charleen (Charleen Bunjiovianna Stoner)
alf.unomaha.edu!jsaker (Jamie Saker)
ames!beaver.cs.washington.edu!6sceng!blm (Brian Matthews)
apex.yorku.ca!michele
aplcomm.jhuapl.edu!levene (Robert A. Levene)
biostr.biostr.washington.edu!kraig (Kraig Eno)
brahms.amd.com!cdr (Carl Rigney)
broadcast.sony.com!bruce%balilly%blilly (Bruce Lilly)
cbmvax.cbm.commodore.com!bryce (Bryce Nesbitt)
cmcl2.nyu.edu!bond!pawan (Pawan Misra)
computer-science.manchester.ac.uk!chl
computer-science.manchester.ac.uk!chl
cs.cornell.edu!alg (Anne Louise Gockel)
cs.heriot-watt.ac.uk!sfleming
cs.wisc.edu!rang (Anton Rang)
da...@dhw68k.cts.com (David H. Wolfskill)
ecn.purdue.edu!supple (Murray R Supple)
elroy.jpl.nasa.gov!david (David Robinson)
elsie.nci.nih.gov!ado (Arthur David Olson)
emory.mathcs.emory.edu!kong!scott (Scott Coulter)
hardy.u.washington.edu!timrut
hombre!att!cbnews!nrc (Richard Caldwell)
hpsrcje.hp.com!chrise
hsi86.hsi.com!kenney (Brian Kenney)
hsi86.hsi.com!mark (Mark Sicignano)
iris.eecs.ucdavis.edu!zerkle (Dan Zerkle)
jarthur.claremont.edu!jbillone
lanl.gov!mwj%beta (William Johnson)
loria.crin.fr!tombre (Karl Tombre)
marob!kodak.com!ornitz (Barry Ornitz)
marob!sun!apple!omni.com!bob (Bob Weissman)
marob!uunet!tc.fluke.COM!moriarty (Jeff Meyer)
masala.lcs.mit.edu!metcalf (Chris Metcalf)
math.berkeley.edu!raymond (Raymond Chen)
mcnc.mcnc.org!wolves!ggw (Gregory G. Woodbury)
methan.chemie.fu-berlin.de!heiko (Heiko Schlichting)
methan.chemie.fu-berlin.de!heinau (Vera Heinau)
methan.chemie.fu-berlin.de!richter (Thomas Richter)
ncar.ucar.edu!woods (Greg Woods)
ohm.berkeley.edu!jbuck (Joe Buck)
pacbell.pacbell.com!dplace!djl (Dave Lampe)
pony.cis.smu.edu!merlin (David Hayes)
prism.gatech.edu!gt3930b (NICHOLS,STEVEN MALCOLM)
ps...@mtunq.att.com (Paul S R Chisholm)
qucis.queensu.ca!dalamb (David Lamb)
rodan.acs.syr.edu!rsholmes (Rich Holmes)
sq.com!msb (Mark Brader)
sun!apple!netcom!marcos (Marcos H. Woehrmann)
sun!daver!cypress!rbv (Roger Vanderveen)
t...@cbnewsg.att.com
tj%Alliant.COM@linus (Tom Jaskiewicz)
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uunet!anagld.analytics.com!rcsmith (Ray Smith)
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uunet!rpp386.Cactus.ORG!jfh (John F. Haugh II)
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uupsi!njin!chg.mcd.mot.com!heiby (Ron Heiby)
uupsi!sunsrvr2.cci.com!tims (Tim Sullivan)
venera.isi.edu!cew (Craig E. Ward)
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