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Date: 2 Jan 2010 09:56:30 -0000
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From: "Edmond H. Wollnann" <arcturia...@earthlink.nut>
Subject: To Astrologers and Psychics - Just Say No!
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On Jan 2, 1:56 am, "Edmond H. Wollnann" <arcturia...@earthlink.nut>
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> http://wwwan.org/na/psychicno.htm
>
> By Bob Anderson
>
> Former U.S. president Ronald Reagan and his wife Nancy, who was
> the spokesperson for the much maligned "Just Say No" anti-drug
> program, were often the centers of debate regarding the
> controversial topic Astrology. According to a former White House
> source, the Reagans, said to be very superstitious, consulted
> horoscopes and a particular California astrologer prior to
> making major decisions affecting both their private and
> political lives. The former president maintained that he did not
> make major decisions based on astrology, but Mrs. Reagan
> admitted to dabbling in stargazing ("Just Say No to Astrology,"
> Expression, June 1988).
>
> >A TV network reported that occultism in the White House is
>
> nothing new. Mary Todd Lincoln is said to have held seances in
> one of the upstairs rooms - a practice President Lincoln
> apparently tolerated with amusement.
>
> More recently, first lady Hilary Rodham Clinton used New Age
> psychic Jean Houston, codirector of the Foundation for Mind
> Research, to talk to the spirit of Eleanor Roosevelt. Reports
> say that Mrs. Clinton had talks with Roosevelt and Mohandas
> Gandhi. From the Bible's point of view, of course, if there was
> contact with any spirits, they were not the spirits of the dead,
> but demons.
>
> Mrs. Clinton said, "Now I'm sure that there will be a talk show
> host somewhere who will point out with great glee that I have
> gone over the edge and am talking to myself and to Mrs.
> Roosevelt on a regular basis, but I believe that the world, and
> particularly our country, would be better off if we all spent a
> little time talking with Mrs. Roosevelt . . ." (Hilliary Rodham
> Clinton, "Keynote Address at the Dedication of Eleanor Roosevelt
> College, San Diego," CA, January 26, 1995).
>
> Interestingly, when Houston suggested that Mrs. Clinton have a
> conversation with Jesus Christ, the first lady declined saying
> that it would be "too personal" ("Methodist Bishop defends Mrs.
> Clinton's talks with deceased leaders," Expression, August 1996,
> p. 8). Incredibly, the United Methodist Bishop of Arkansas,
> Richard Wilke, endorsed Mrs. Clinton's involvement with
> necromancy, saying, "I think it's marvelous that she's having
> experiences like this, " adding that Mrs. Clinton is "one of the
> most profound lay theologians in the United Methodist Church"
> (Ibid., p.6). This is simply evidence which shows how deficient
> in biblical discernment and godly wisdom many church leaders are
> today.
>
> Spiritual Frauds
> What position should Christians take when discussions of
> astrology, psychics and other forms of divination arise? Do the
> stars shape human destiny? Are there unseen influences in the
> unconscious mind related to the position of the planets in their
> orbits? Can psychics see the future? Does the Bible say anything
> about these subjects? Yes, of course it does! God branded these
> practices as detestable. Listen to the words of Moses in
> Deuteronomy 18:9-12:
>
> "When thou art come into the land the Lord thy God giveth thee,
> thou shalt not learn to do after the abominations of those
> nations. There shalt not be found among you anyone that maketh
> his son or his daughter to pass through the fire, or that useth
> divination, or an observer of times or an enchanter , or a
> witch, or a necromancer, for all that do these things, are an
> abomination unto the Lord."
>
> God branded the practices of the Canaanites an "abomination." In
> other words, these were things that were particularly offensive
> to Him. When Israel desired to know God's divine will, they were
> commanded to avoid the magic, sorcery and superstitious
> practices of the Canaanites. Instead, they were to wait upon the
> Lord, who would raise up a prophet from among them. God's
> prophets were not primarily to foretell the future, but to
> instruct and reprove the people in God's name. Prophecies and
> miracles were only intended as a sign to establish the prophet's
> credentials. And God's prophets were always accurate 100 per
> cent of the time when they prophesied (Deuteronomy 18:21-22).
> Anything less then 100 percent accuracy resulted in death by
> stoning for the false prophet.
>
> >Checking the records of modern-day astrologers or psychics,
>
> even the late Jeanne Dixon, will demonstrate that unlike God's
> prophets, they are extremely inaccurate. Incidentally, Mrs.
> Dixon failed to prophesy her own death.
>
> One reads further about the enchanters in Daniel 2:1-2. King
> Nebuchandnezzer believed that he had received an important
> Divine communication. He summoned all of his magicians,
> sorcerers and Chaldeans. He admonished them to tell him, both
> his dream and the interpretation, pretending to have forgotten
> the dream so he could test their skills.
>
> The astrologers failed the test and the King ordered them all
> executed. God, however, revealed the dream and its meaning to
> Daniel who after revealing it and the interpretation with
> Nebuchadnezzar was made the ruler over the whole province of
> Babylon. God rewarded obedience but chastised disobedience.
>
> The Scriptures indicate that both Israel and Judah were often
> contaminated with astrology, sorcery or witchcraft. This
> contamination always brought the judgement of God upon them.
>
> Will America be judged by a different standard? Again and again
> the Lord sent prophets to warn Israel and Judah, but the people
> would not heed His warnings. (e.g., 2 Kings 17:15-17; 23:5;
> Isaiah 47:10-15). Much of Israel and Judah's problems can be
> traced to their involvement with occult practices.
>
> Purveyors of Delusion
> Occult techniques are now attracting millions in America through
> the New Age Movement. Psychics have become commonplace.
> Hollywood actors and entertainers star in television programs
> urging people to call their "top professional psychics."
>
> A popular New Age magazine, Body, Mind & Spirit, recently
> proclaimed that "now with a single phone call, you can choose
> for yourself from among the country's leading Master Psychics
> including: ASTROLOGERS.NUMEROLOGISTS.DREAM INTERPRETERS . TAROT
> CARD READERS.CHANNELERS.PAST LIFE THERAPISTS . CLAIRVOYANTS .
> AURA READERS . and HEALERS." All of this for a mere $3.95 per
> minute on a convenient 900 number (Paul Zurmoski, ed., Body,
> Mind & Spirit, 1993 issues coverflap; cited in Ron Rhodes, The
> Culting of America, p. 84).
>
> Psychic Friends Network Declares Bankruptcy
> Interestingly, the most prominent of the psychic "hotlines," The
> Psychic Friends Network hosted by Dionne Warwick, recently filed
> for bankruptcy. The Network had employed approximately 1,500
> psychics who, as in the case of Jeanne Dixon, were not able to
> foresee the coming demise. At its peak, the network had logged
> an estimated three million minutes a month at about $4 per
> minute. That would have amounted to a gross income of $144
> million annually (see "Psychics" Profile, The Watchman
> Expositor, Vol. 14, No. 2, 1997).
>
> The seeming flood of psychic programs, many of them literally
> giving away up to twenty minutes of free time to attract
> callers, may have eventually caused the collapse of The Psychic
> Friends Network. Hopefully, for the good of society, this will
> not be the last of these insolvencies.
>
> Ancient Occult Roots
> Many of today's astrologers frankly admit that ancient
> Babylonians developed their craft, just as they invented just
> about every other type of divination known to man. Just as many
> people once believed that the stars were gods, many today
> believe that the positions of the stars and planets at the time
> of one's birth determine one's character, abilities and destiny.
> More than 80 percent of all newspapers in America now carry
> horoscope columns.
>
> All occult practices are an affront to God. Christians are to
> put faith and trust in Him alone. God wants His people to
> consult Him - not phoney substitutes. Through the Scripture and
> through the Holy Spirit, God reveals what He's doing and what He
> wants people to know. "To the law and to the testimony if they
> speak not according to this word, it is because there is no
> light in them" (Isaiah 8:20). "Howbeit when the Spirit of truth
> is come He will guide you into all truth .and He will show you
> things to come. (John 16:13).
>
> The Lord, through the Word and the Holy Spirit, will guide His
> people into all truth and will show them that His promises are
> true. That's something that the psychics and astrologers can
> never do.
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> Fraud and forger.
Damn, wrong again, Eddieeeeeeee. How does it serve you to be a powerless
failure?
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If nothing else, he's had the longest-running continuous series of kicks to
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I understand Edmond "Moon in Uranus" Wollmann and Rick "Head in Hisanus"
Scoville (FreeSpeechStore) will be joining forces on the Interwebs. Together
they might obtain half a brain, but it'll cost $3.99 to find out.
;)
Says the whiner and plagiarist fortune teller fraud.
> Edmond H. Wollmann P.M.A.F.A.