Re: Google Groups....
Anthony Edwards
> groups...@google.com doesnt accept abuse reports anymore. Just sends a
> auto ack that they no longer care abue usenet abuse.
If you can substantiate this statement with evidence, please post such
(ideally an example full and complete automated acknowledgement that
you have received, together with full and complete SMTP headers)
to news.admin.net-abuse.usenet (not news.admin.net-abuse.email,
since Usenet abuse is off topic here).
> But it does suggest this...
> "If you have a general
> Google Groups question or wish to report a post that you suspect is
> illegal, please write to us at groups-...@google.com"
> Since spam is illegal........
Usenet spam posted via Google Groups (or anywhere else for that
matter) is in relatively few circumstances illegal. If, however,
your assertion is correct that Google Groups will no longer act on
valid complaints concerning Usenet (spam) abuse posted using their
service *unless* such postings are illegal, the Usenet community have
a number of effective ways to bring Google Groups to heel.
[news.admin.net-abuse.usenet added, FU's set]
--
Anthony Edwards
ant...@catfish.nildram.co.uk
McWebber
news:10iveq9...@news.supernews.com...
> If you can substantiate this statement with evidence, please post such
> (ideally an example full and complete automated acknowledgement that
> you have received, together with full and complete SMTP headers)
> to news.admin.net-abuse.usenet (not news.admin.net-abuse.email,
> since Usenet abuse is off topic here).
>
Since the OP "MAKE A FORTUNE FAST AND LEGALLY" that led to my complaint was
in this group I'd say it's on-topic, but I'm setting follow-ups to NANAU.
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Subject: Re: [#13730180] Fw: "MAKE A FORTUNE FAST AND LEGALLY"
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Thank you for your note. Google does not regularly monitor or censor
postings sent to Google Groups, but we do try to prevent wide-scale spam
and other forms of Usenet abuse. While we appreciate how annoying
off-topic posts can be, we aren't able to pursue most complaints we
receive about them. We've found that in most cases, it's much more
effective for group members to express their displeasure directly to the
spammer. You can contact the individual directly through his or her email
address or by replying to the post within the group. For more information,
please see our Terms and Conditions at
http://groups.google.com/googlegroups/posting_terms.html
Replies to this email address will not be received. If you have a general
Google Groups question or wish to report a post that you suspect is
illegal, please write to us at groups-...@google.com
Regards,
The Google Team
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McWebber
"Richter points to the lack of legal action against his company as proof
that he's operating appropriately."
Information Week, November 10, 2003
glgxg
I'll leave the whole bit in for archive...
The IPO must mean that they are too busy out house hunting.
http://groups.google.com/googlegroups/help.html#abuse
It looks like they've snipped the first sentence of #15 in the FAQ in
the autobot reply:
<quote>
15. How can I report cases of Usenet abuse from people posting through
Google Groups?
Send a message to groups...@google.com describing the offense. Please
note, in order to investigate reports of abuse you must include the full
header of the offending post.
Google does not regularly monitor or censor messages posted to Usenet
through Google Groups, but we do attempt to prevent wide-scale spamming
and other forms of Usenet abuse. While we appreciate how annoying
off-topic posts can be, we are not able to pursue most of the complaints
we receive about them. Unless the case involves numerous repeat offenses
or posting of someone's personal information (credit card or social
security numbers), we have found it much more effective for the members
of the group to express their displeasure directly to the spammer. You
can contact the individual directly through his or her email address or
by replying to the post within the group.
For more information, please see our Terms of Service.
16. How can I send you feedback?
We always love to hear from you and we read all the mail we receive.
We've tried to answer as many user questions as possible in this FAQ and
in our FAQ about posting. In the posting FAQ, you'll find our guidelines
for removing posts from the archives as well as help making sure your
posts don't get archived in Google Groups at all. If you don't see the
answer to your question there or if you have specific suggestions for
improving the Google Groups service, feel free to send us mail at
groups-...@google.com.
<end-quote>