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Archimedes Plutonium
Oct 26, 2012, 3:09:00 PM10/26/12
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Looking through the newsgroups of sci.physics, sci.math,
sci.physics.electromag, sci.chem and not a single post of mine shows
up.
All of my posts are hidden under the banner:
"This topic has been hidden because it was flagged for abuse."
Either someone in Google is doing this, or Google as a whole is
encouraging others to censor and turns a blind eye.
Amazing how Google, in one stroke can eliminate my 30,000 to 50,000
posts that I had posted between 1993 to present day 26 October, 2012,
all under a "new Google format".
The people at Google were chased out of China due to censorship. But
in their retreat, the executives of Google seemed to have learned how
to subject that censorship on the rest of the "free world" with their
new Google News Groups.
If I use the Old New Groups of Google, things are normal, but the new
newsgroups of Google are meant to censor.
Thank goodness this censorship fad has not stricken Drexel and for
anyone wanting to read my recent posts, looks like Drexel's Math Forum
is the best bet:
http://mathforum.org/kb/profile.jspa?userID=499986
Recently I called out the illegality of Google calling the website
sci.physics or sci.math when it no longer is those newsgroups when
they changed the format. Drexel has the decency to call theirs as
"sci.math.independent" recognizing that theirs is no really sci.math.
So Google should follow the same legal issues and no longer call it
sci.math but something more relevant since they actively censor posts
with "flagged for abuse". They should call theirs sci.math.Google in
recognition that they no longer are sci.math.
For more posts by AP, look at http://mathforum.org/kb/profile.jspa?userID=499986
since Google New Groups is actively censoring posts
Archimedes Plutonium http://www.iw.net/~a_plutonium whole entire
Universe is just one big atom where dots of the electron-dot-cloud
are galaxies
sci.physics.electromag, sci.chem and not a single post of mine shows
up.
All of my posts are hidden under the banner:
"This topic has been hidden because it was flagged for abuse."
Either someone in Google is doing this, or Google as a whole is
encouraging others to censor and turns a blind eye.
Amazing how Google, in one stroke can eliminate my 30,000 to 50,000
posts that I had posted between 1993 to present day 26 October, 2012,
all under a "new Google format".
The people at Google were chased out of China due to censorship. But
in their retreat, the executives of Google seemed to have learned how
to subject that censorship on the rest of the "free world" with their
new Google News Groups.
If I use the Old New Groups of Google, things are normal, but the new
newsgroups of Google are meant to censor.
Thank goodness this censorship fad has not stricken Drexel and for
anyone wanting to read my recent posts, looks like Drexel's Math Forum
is the best bet:
http://mathforum.org/kb/profile.jspa?userID=499986
Recently I called out the illegality of Google calling the website
sci.physics or sci.math when it no longer is those newsgroups when
they changed the format. Drexel has the decency to call theirs as
"sci.math.independent" recognizing that theirs is no really sci.math.
So Google should follow the same legal issues and no longer call it
sci.math but something more relevant since they actively censor posts
with "flagged for abuse". They should call theirs sci.math.Google in
recognition that they no longer are sci.math.
For more posts by AP, look at http://mathforum.org/kb/profile.jspa?userID=499986
since Google New Groups is actively censoring posts
Archimedes Plutonium http://www.iw.net/~a_plutonium whole entire
Universe is just one big atom where dots of the electron-dot-cloud
are galaxies
George Cornelius
Oct 26, 2012, 4:05:56 PM10/26/12
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Archimedes Plutonium wrote:
> Looking through the newsgroups of sci.physics, sci.math,
> sci.physics.electromag, sci.chem and not a single post of mine shows
> up.
>
> All of my posts are hidden under the banner:
>
> "This topic has been hidden because it was flagged for abuse."
>
> Either someone in Google is doing this, or Google as a whole is
> encouraging others to censor and turns a blind eye.
Yeah, typically it is done via some mechanism that involves votes
> Looking through the newsgroups of sci.physics, sci.math,
> sci.physics.electromag, sci.chem and not a single post of mine shows
> up.
>
> All of my posts are hidden under the banner:
>
> "This topic has been hidden because it was flagged for abuse."
>
> Either someone in Google is doing this, or Google as a whole is
> encouraging others to censor and turns a blind eye.
or complaints, and perhaps a weighting algorithm, so that they can
claim that they aren't doing censorship but just processing user
input according to some rule.
Considering the complete trash that winds up in these groups I'm
not sure why they would single you out. Your posts are certainly
unconventional but generally don't stray a long way from the group's
charter and we can choose to ignore them if we like. There seem
to be some seriously disruptive posters these days, on sci.math
at least, and I don't think you fit that category at the moment.
'Course you've mellowed over the years, Archie!
> Amazing how Google, in one stroke can eliminate my 30,000 to 50,000
> posts that I had posted between 1993 to present day 26 October, 2012,
> all under a "new Google format".
>
> The people at Google were chased out of China due to censorship. But
> in their retreat, the executives of Google seemed to have learned how
> to subject that censorship on the rest of the "free world" with their
> new Google News Groups.
>
> If I use the Old New Groups of Google, things are normal, but the new
> newsgroups of Google are meant to censor.
>
> Thank goodness this censorship fad has not stricken Drexel and for
> anyone wanting to read my recent posts, looks like Drexel's Math Forum
> is the best bet:
>
> http://mathforum.org/kb/profile.jspa?userID=499986
>
> Recently I called out the illegality of Google calling the website
> sci.physics or sci.math when it no longer is those newsgroups when
> they changed the format. Drexel has the decency to call theirs as
> "sci.math.independent" recognizing that theirs is no really sci.math.
>
> So Google should follow the same legal issues and no longer call it
> sci.math but something more relevant since they actively censor posts
> with "flagged for abuse". They should call theirs sci.math.Google in
> recognition that they no longer are sci.math.
by slime. Since there's a lot of pruning involved in doing that,
they may not be taking care to treat everyone fairly. They do have
to listen to their lawyers, but maybe not their user community.
And they have a great archive. Since it's free, it's hard for someone
like me to complain even if they go overboard in trying to tidy things
up.
George Cornelius
David Ritz
Oct 26, 2012, 5:39:52 PM10/26/12
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On Friday, 26 October 2012 12:09 -0700, in article
<4cea8ba0-d4fa-4eb6...@b15g2000yqk.googlegroups.com>,
It ain't censorship. Were you too learn the meaning of the word,
you'll go far in improving your credibility.
It's your choice to use Googlegroups, along with all that your choice
implies. Please stop whining about your poor choices.
Some unknown individual appears to reporting your posts as abusive,
for whatever reason. You've managed to pick up plenty of fanbois,
while k00king out over the years.
> Amazing how Google, in one stroke can eliminate my 30,000 to 50,000
> posts that I had posted between 1993 to present day 26 October,
> 2012, all under a "new Google format".
You might try reverting to the old Google interface. You'd be amazed
at how much functionality has been removed in the 'new' interface.
<http://groups.google.com/groups/search?as_q=&as_epq=&as_oq=&as_eq=&num=100&scoring=d&lr=&as_sitesearch=&as_qdr=&as_mind=1&as_minm=1&as_miny=2012&as_maxd=1&as_maxm=1&as_maxy=2012&as_ugroup=&as_usubject=&as_uauthors=plutonium.archimedes%40gmail.com&safe=off>
(<http://tinyurl.com/9smbf3t>)
> The people at Google were chased out of China due to censorship. But
> in their retreat, the executives of Google seemed to have learned
> how to subject that censorship on the rest of the "free world" with
> their new Google News Groups.
It ain't censorship. Were you too learn the meaning of the word,
you'll go far in improving your credibility.
> If I use the Old New Groups of Google, things are normal, but the
> new newsgroups of Google are meant to censor.
It ain't censorship. Were you too learn the meaning of the word,
you'll go far in improving your credibility.
> Thank goodness this censorship fad has not stricken Drexel and for
> anyone wanting to read my recent posts, looks like Drexel's Math
> Forum is the best bet:
> http://mathforum.org/kb/profile.jspa?userID=499986
> Recently I called out the illegality of Google calling the website
> sci.physics or sci.math when it no longer is those newsgroups when
> they changed the format. Drexel has the decency to call theirs as
> "sci.math.independent" recognizing that theirs is no really
> sci.math.
sci.physics and sci.math are not websites. They are Usenet
newsgroups. You've been posting to Usenet for nearly twenty years,
yet you still haven't learned its basics.
Googlegroups is not Usenet, although it does provide an entirely lame,
point and drool, web2news interface.
> So Google should follow the same legal issues and no longer call it
> sci.math but something more relevant since they actively censor
> posts with "flagged for abuse". They should call theirs
> sci.math.Google in recognition that they no longer are sci.math.
Googlegroups is not Usenet. Lather, rinse, repeat.
- --
David Ritz <dr...@mindspring.com>
Be kind to animals; kiss a shark.
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On Friday, 26 October 2012 12:09 -0700, in article
<4cea8ba0-d4fa-4eb6...@b15g2000yqk.googlegroups.com>,
Archimedes Plutonium <plutonium....@gmail.com> wrote:
> Looking through the newsgroups of sci.physics, sci.math,
> sci.physics.electromag, sci.chem and not a single post of mine shows
> up.
> All of my posts are hidden under the banner:
> "This topic has been hidden because it was flagged for abuse."
> Either someone in Google is doing this, or Google as a whole is
> encouraging others to censor and turns a blind eye.
Archie Pu,
> Looking through the newsgroups of sci.physics, sci.math,
> sci.physics.electromag, sci.chem and not a single post of mine shows
> up.
> All of my posts are hidden under the banner:
> "This topic has been hidden because it was flagged for abuse."
> Either someone in Google is doing this, or Google as a whole is
> encouraging others to censor and turns a blind eye.
It ain't censorship. Were you too learn the meaning of the word,
you'll go far in improving your credibility.
It's your choice to use Googlegroups, along with all that your choice
implies. Please stop whining about your poor choices.
Some unknown individual appears to reporting your posts as abusive,
for whatever reason. You've managed to pick up plenty of fanbois,
while k00king out over the years.
> Amazing how Google, in one stroke can eliminate my 30,000 to 50,000
> posts that I had posted between 1993 to present day 26 October,
> 2012, all under a "new Google format".
at how much functionality has been removed in the 'new' interface.
<http://groups.google.com/groups/search?as_q=&as_epq=&as_oq=&as_eq=&num=100&scoring=d&lr=&as_sitesearch=&as_qdr=&as_mind=1&as_minm=1&as_miny=2012&as_maxd=1&as_maxm=1&as_maxy=2012&as_ugroup=&as_usubject=&as_uauthors=plutonium.archimedes%40gmail.com&safe=off>
(<http://tinyurl.com/9smbf3t>)
> The people at Google were chased out of China due to censorship. But
> in their retreat, the executives of Google seemed to have learned
> how to subject that censorship on the rest of the "free world" with
> their new Google News Groups.
you'll go far in improving your credibility.
> If I use the Old New Groups of Google, things are normal, but the
> new newsgroups of Google are meant to censor.
you'll go far in improving your credibility.
> Thank goodness this censorship fad has not stricken Drexel and for
> anyone wanting to read my recent posts, looks like Drexel's Math
> Forum is the best bet:
> http://mathforum.org/kb/profile.jspa?userID=499986
> Recently I called out the illegality of Google calling the website
> sci.physics or sci.math when it no longer is those newsgroups when
> they changed the format. Drexel has the decency to call theirs as
> "sci.math.independent" recognizing that theirs is no really
> sci.math.
newsgroups. You've been posting to Usenet for nearly twenty years,
yet you still haven't learned its basics.
Googlegroups is not Usenet, although it does provide an entirely lame,
point and drool, web2news interface.
> So Google should follow the same legal issues and no longer call it
> sci.math but something more relevant since they actively censor
> posts with "flagged for abuse". They should call theirs
> sci.math.Google in recognition that they no longer are sci.math.
- --
David Ritz <dr...@mindspring.com>
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Lord Androcles, Zeroth Earl of Medway
Oct 26, 2012, 5:49:01 PM10/26/12
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"David Ritz" wrote in message
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Archie Pu,
It ain't censorship.
=====================================================
Now he'll never go away. I suppose it was inevitable that someone
would try to show how smart they were instead of leaving him with
his frustrations.
-- This message is brought to you from the keyboard of
Lord Androcles, Zeroth Earl of Medway
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Archie Pu,
It ain't censorship.
Now he'll never go away. I suppose it was inevitable that someone
would try to show how smart they were instead of leaving him with
his frustrations.
-- This message is brought to you from the keyboard of
Lord Androcles, Zeroth Earl of Medway
Salmon Egg
Oct 26, 2012, 11:57:12 PM10/26/12
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Appreciate your blessings and do not tempt the gods.
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Sam
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Liberals are for Darwinism but totally against any selection.
--
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Conservatives are against Darwinism but for natural selection.
Liberals are for Darwinism but totally against any selection.
Archimedes Plutonium
Oct 27, 2012, 4:39:35 AM10/27/12
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From: Archimedes Plutonium <plutonium.archime...@gmail.com>
Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2012 21:48:05 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Fri, Oct 26 2012 11:48 pm
Subject: Re: not a single post of Archimedes Plutonium shows up in New
Google Newsgroups
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Hi George, its more of having found my pace, track and course in the
past few years. When you find your track and know what has to be
accomplished, you tend to put all other things off to the side as
distraction and interruption.
The changes at Google though, have to be addressed because they offer
the ultimate in censorship. They they offer the means of destroying
about 30,000 of my posts
covering years 1993 to present under a censorship monocle of "This
topic has been
hidden because it was flagged for abuse." This morning I posted two
posts and in sci.physics.electromag only this one thread now exists.
The other post was removed by Google censors an hour or so after it
was posted. This post was removed:
Newsgroups: sci.physics, sci.physics.electromag, sci.math, sci.chem
From: Archimedes Plutonium <plutonium.archime...@gmail.com>
Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2012 12:45:03 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Fri, Oct 26 2012 2:45 pm
Subject: three numbers for Charge, ditto for spin Chapt13.4.03 Charge,
Rest-mass, Spin, Speed, Geometrical-Size of particles from DTW #1011
New Physics #1131 ATOM TOTALITY 5th ed
The problem is that the sci newsgroups under Google's new format are
now run by gangs of voting hatemongers and no matter what the content
of your post to sci.physics.electromag, you have a situation of
censors judging whether your post will stay or disappear an hour after
you post it.
The reason I suspect an employee of Google is the main hatemonger
removing my posts, is because on the two computers I use most often, I
view the Old Google Newsgroups and everything is fine and dandy, a
second computer views the New Google Newsgroups and the posts are
still listed and not removed, however the author of my posts is shown
as "me" rather than shown as "Archimedes Plutonium". Which tells me
that the censor who judges to remove my posts since the end of August
is a Google employee, who monitors the computer which I view the
Google newsgroups and has rigged that computer to show the post, not
removed and with author "me".
Now I pick up a new computer that never looked at the Google
newsgroups and tune into the New Google Newsgroups and the only post
in sci.physics.electromag is this post thread authored by "Archimedes
Plutonium" and all my other posts are hidden and tagged as abuse. So
that suggests to me that only a Google employee could monitor the
computers that I view sci.physics.electromag and to lull me into
thinking that all my posts are in view to the worldwide public when in
fact all my posts since August of 2012 have been removed, and removed
about hours after posting them during those months.
Now I would not complain about that, provided that Google would always
keep Old Google Newsgroups, so that anyone wanting to see a flagged
for abuse post can access them.
However, if you read the header of Google Groups, they keep saying the
Old Newsgroup will soon go away.
If the Old Newsgroups soon go away, that means for me, that no-one can
access the 30,000 posts I made from 1993 to present.
I cannot access from Google archives any of those posts removed from
August 2012 to present, even from the Old Google Newsgroups advanced
search.
So my complaint is that Google is committing a crime of censorship by
calling the Newsgroups sci.math, or sci.physics, or
sci.physics.electromag when they are no longer those Usenet
newsgroups.
I cannot say to a friend or colleague to look up my post in
sci.physics or sci.math because they would turn to Google and find no
posts of Archimedes Plutonium at all.
Now Drexel University solved this problem for they named their website
as Sci.Math.Independent, meaning that they were using Sci.math but it
was not the real true Sci.Math itself.
However, Google seems not to have gotten the message yet, that their
new format, is no longer Sci.Math but a Censored.Sci.Math and they
should call their sci hierarchy of groups the
Google.Censored.Sci.Math.
So that when I tell a friend or colleague, look at my post of
September 2012 in sci.math, they will not be confused since Google is
called Google.Censored.Sci.Math and my friend or colleague can not
find it in Google.
- Show quoted text -
I do not blame Google for wanting to clean up sci newsgroups, but they
can easily go far too far where hatemongers do more censorship than
cleaning up.
If Google drops access to Old Google Newsgroups, though, then I feel
they have committed an illegality, because then, they have erased not
only the months of September, October 2012 of my posts which the
general public can never access from Google, but will have eliminated
all the posts of Archimedes Plutonium from access.
When Google eliminates Old Google Newsgroups, then they will have
violated my rights of having blocked the view of 30,000 of my posts
from 1993 to present. If they close that window, I believe they
committed a crime.
are fair, but
ever since the end of August, I can no longer tell friends and
colleagues of my posts of science in sci.physics.electromag, because
those friends and colleagues will likely look and search for them from
Google and never able to find them.
So if Google changes the name to something like
Google,moderated,sci.math or Google.censored.sci.math, then my friends
and colleagues would know that to skip over Google to look for my
posts, since some redneck hatemonger had tossed my posts.
of my posts from August onward have survived. And if Google drops the
Old Newsgroups, it is likely that all 30,000 posts of Archimedes
Plutonium are unavailable and hidden.
http://mathforum.org/kb/profile.jspa?userID=499986
since Google New NewsGroups censored and removed my posts since August
2012
From: Archimedes Plutonium <plutonium.archime...@gmail.com>
Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2012 21:48:05 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Fri, Oct 26 2012 11:48 pm
Subject: Re: not a single post of Archimedes Plutonium shows up in New
Google Newsgroups
Reply | Reply to author | Forward | Print | Individual message | Show
original | Remove | Report this message | Find messages by this author
- Show quoted text -
Hi George, its more of having found my pace, track and course in the
past few years. When you find your track and know what has to be
accomplished, you tend to put all other things off to the side as
distraction and interruption.
The changes at Google though, have to be addressed because they offer
the ultimate in censorship. They they offer the means of destroying
about 30,000 of my posts
covering years 1993 to present under a censorship monocle of "This
topic has been
hidden because it was flagged for abuse." This morning I posted two
posts and in sci.physics.electromag only this one thread now exists.
The other post was removed by Google censors an hour or so after it
was posted. This post was removed:
Newsgroups: sci.physics, sci.physics.electromag, sci.math, sci.chem
From: Archimedes Plutonium <plutonium.archime...@gmail.com>
Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2012 12:45:03 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Fri, Oct 26 2012 2:45 pm
Subject: three numbers for Charge, ditto for spin Chapt13.4.03 Charge,
Rest-mass, Spin, Speed, Geometrical-Size of particles from DTW #1011
New Physics #1131 ATOM TOTALITY 5th ed
The problem is that the sci newsgroups under Google's new format are
now run by gangs of voting hatemongers and no matter what the content
of your post to sci.physics.electromag, you have a situation of
censors judging whether your post will stay or disappear an hour after
you post it.
The reason I suspect an employee of Google is the main hatemonger
removing my posts, is because on the two computers I use most often, I
view the Old Google Newsgroups and everything is fine and dandy, a
second computer views the New Google Newsgroups and the posts are
still listed and not removed, however the author of my posts is shown
as "me" rather than shown as "Archimedes Plutonium". Which tells me
that the censor who judges to remove my posts since the end of August
is a Google employee, who monitors the computer which I view the
Google newsgroups and has rigged that computer to show the post, not
removed and with author "me".
Now I pick up a new computer that never looked at the Google
newsgroups and tune into the New Google Newsgroups and the only post
in sci.physics.electromag is this post thread authored by "Archimedes
Plutonium" and all my other posts are hidden and tagged as abuse. So
that suggests to me that only a Google employee could monitor the
computers that I view sci.physics.electromag and to lull me into
thinking that all my posts are in view to the worldwide public when in
fact all my posts since August of 2012 have been removed, and removed
about hours after posting them during those months.
Now I would not complain about that, provided that Google would always
keep Old Google Newsgroups, so that anyone wanting to see a flagged
for abuse post can access them.
However, if you read the header of Google Groups, they keep saying the
Old Newsgroup will soon go away.
If the Old Newsgroups soon go away, that means for me, that no-one can
access the 30,000 posts I made from 1993 to present.
I cannot access from Google archives any of those posts removed from
August 2012 to present, even from the Old Google Newsgroups advanced
search.
So my complaint is that Google is committing a crime of censorship by
calling the Newsgroups sci.math, or sci.physics, or
sci.physics.electromag when they are no longer those Usenet
newsgroups.
I cannot say to a friend or colleague to look up my post in
sci.physics or sci.math because they would turn to Google and find no
posts of Archimedes Plutonium at all.
Now Drexel University solved this problem for they named their website
as Sci.Math.Independent, meaning that they were using Sci.math but it
was not the real true Sci.Math itself.
However, Google seems not to have gotten the message yet, that their
new format, is no longer Sci.Math but a Censored.Sci.Math and they
should call their sci hierarchy of groups the
Google.Censored.Sci.Math.
So that when I tell a friend or colleague, look at my post of
September 2012 in sci.math, they will not be confused since Google is
called Google.Censored.Sci.Math and my friend or colleague can not
find it in Google.
- Show quoted text -
I do not blame Google for wanting to clean up sci newsgroups, but they
can easily go far too far where hatemongers do more censorship than
cleaning up.
If Google drops access to Old Google Newsgroups, though, then I feel
they have committed an illegality, because then, they have erased not
only the months of September, October 2012 of my posts which the
general public can never access from Google, but will have eliminated
all the posts of Archimedes Plutonium from access.
When Google eliminates Old Google Newsgroups, then they will have
violated my rights of having blocked the view of 30,000 of my posts
from 1993 to present. If they close that window, I believe they
committed a crime.
> they may not be taking care to treat everyone fairly. They do have
> to listen to their lawyers, but maybe not their user community.
If they allow access to what I posted to Usenet sci.math, then they
> to listen to their lawyers, but maybe not their user community.
are fair, but
ever since the end of August, I can no longer tell friends and
colleagues of my posts of science in sci.physics.electromag, because
those friends and colleagues will likely look and search for them from
Google and never able to find them.
So if Google changes the name to something like
Google,moderated,sci.math or Google.censored.sci.math, then my friends
and colleagues would know that to skip over Google to look for my
posts, since some redneck hatemonger had tossed my posts.
> And they have a great archive. Since it's free, it's hard for someone
> like me to complain even if they go overboard in trying to tidy things
> up.
> George Cornelius
Their archive used to be great, but now in Google New Newsgroups, none
> like me to complain even if they go overboard in trying to tidy things
> up.
> George Cornelius
of my posts from August onward have survived. And if Google drops the
Old Newsgroups, it is likely that all 30,000 posts of Archimedes
Plutonium are unavailable and hidden.
> > For more posts by AP, look at http://mathforum.org/kb/profile.jspa?userID=499986
> > since Google New Groups is actively censoring posts
> > Archimedes Plutonium http://www.iw.net/~a_plutonium whole entire
> > Universe is just one big atom where dots of the electron-dot-cloud
> > are galaxies
For a sequential list of my more recent posts, please look at
> > since Google New Groups is actively censoring posts
> > Archimedes Plutonium http://www.iw.net/~a_plutonium whole entire
> > Universe is just one big atom where dots of the electron-dot-cloud
> > are galaxies
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